<!--QuoteBegin-Hi!+Apr 11 2004, 05:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hi! @ Apr 11 2004, 05:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here is a Basic RMF of all the entities that are needed. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Will you have my children?
Edit: Whats the hive in the aaa room for? I'd expect it would be to kill that hive, but the box doesn't touch the hive, and it isn't an entity. Also, do I just change "Team One" to "Team Two" and "3" to "4" if I want to make it Alien vs Alien?
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Apr 11 2004, 11:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Apr 11 2004, 11:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Hi!+Apr 11 2004, 05:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hi! @ Apr 11 2004, 05:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here is a Basic RMF of all the entities that are needed. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Will you have my children?
Edit: Whats the hive in the aaa room for? I'd expect it would be to kill that hive, but the box doesn't touch the hive, and it isn't an entity. Also, do I just change "Team One" to "Team Two" and "3" to "4" if I want to make it Alien vs Alien? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The hive is there to make it an ns map, it requires one.
The whole MvM is done with an entity, i forgot the name, but its near the light_environment, theres only team one and two, just change them to alien's to make it AvA.
i think that answers the questions
(ps, i compiled and tested the map, and for some reason i cant spawn.. umm i'm not sure whats up with this.)
just tried these maps and while theys eem good they r poor because u cant tell who is who.
Really need an auto glow plugin for amx <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Bry+Apr 11 2004, 02:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ Apr 11 2004, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Really need an auto glow plugin for amx <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Did you read <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67663&view=findpost&p=1016003' target='_blank'>this</a> post, right up the page?
<!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+Apr 11 2004, 08:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ Apr 11 2004, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bry+Apr 11 2004, 02:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ Apr 11 2004, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Really need an auto glow plugin for amx <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Did you read <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67663&view=findpost&p=1016003' target='_blank'>this</a> post, right up the page? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yes but amxx is not amx <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
amxx s still mroe or less beta and a large number of existing plugins do not exist for amxx hence why a lot of servers including mine cant switch to amxx for the time being.
Which is why ive asked for a amx one <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I have a sgugestion for the MvM why not make team 1 auto assigned to a server side .mdl for the map included in the d/l that makes marine1 Red and marine2 Blue, or w/e color? Becuz in game there is already 2 marines 1 white 1 black.Will this work? because i know there is a command to change your skin color but can you automatically assign this?
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edited April 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-devicenull+Apr 9 2004, 05:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (devicenull @ Apr 9 2004, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Marine vs Marine & Alien vs Alien Auto-Glow for <b>AMXX</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's not assuming.
edit: Oh, and i was in a listen server of "wascally wabbit"'s, and he was working on a metamod plugin that does it, and it seemed to work real well. Didn't inflate your gun with the glow either... (if you know what i mean)
This is awesome, can't wait until cc glitch for team 3 is fixed and for the working AvA maps. I've been waiting for this my whole life, <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> or since I've started playing NS.
Another upside to MvM mapping is that we will be able to have more outside areas, since there are no skulks to sit on the sky - only jetpackers (and they can't really sit on the sky <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ).
Great Work! But if u need to glow in an AvA map,what about Lurking in dark corners? What about Cloaking ? Then it will make no sens at all to choose that,also i get the image in an AvA map all they do is running straight to the Enemy Hive,and biteing it quickly to death,will all the games end up like one team is all over its hive,trying to kill all the other skulks on it? /me imagines a plant with vermin all over it <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The only suggestion that seams logical in the Marine vs Marine dilemma is to make one team blue, one green, etc (by this i means armour skins, etc.).
Also other differences should be included such as the addition of a flamethrower for one team or just a distinctive weapon or set of abilities. Maybe a heavy turret for one team, and the other gets the ability to use the scope on their lmg's.
i dont know the exact details, but modifications could also be made to the aliens by having the Kharaa and another alien team. Again with slight difference (another alien class instead of the lerk or fade perhaps). But if there were to another class, maybe a projectile shooter would be adequate.
i am interested to know what the rest of the NS community think of the Same vs Same dilemma...
<!--QuoteBegin-BigBull+Apr 11 2004, 10:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Apr 11 2004, 10:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Umm why do you assume its amxx.
i never said it was, dont put words into my mouth.
I have the amx custom version.
ITS AMX <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> im sorry but the post does clearly state its for amxx if you have a custom version that is working on amx would you mind posting it here please?
This is a very experimental version of MvM for adminmod. It doesn't do per team/hive/object glowing thanks to AM's fairly dumb api. It just assigns glow colors based on team. Well, here you go... make sure to follow instructions on that page in order for me to be able to fix it up appropriately.
Mandasp: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The plugins would be more flexible if they could read a map list from a .txt or .ini or whatever that the admin edits to list the MvM maps installed on the server... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aye, I've thought of that... and until more than a few maps are produced I'm keeping the old constant array parsing majig.
but seriously, i think most of the potential lies in classic <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> only most ^^?
But, on topic, marine vs marine would be interesting. if not.. tfc-ish.
The plugins would be more flexible if they could read a map list from a .txt or .ini or whatever that the admin edits to list the MvM maps installed on the server...
Just an idea <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-nickus+Apr 12 2004, 05:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nickus @ Apr 12 2004, 05:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only suggestion that seams logical in the Marine vs Marine dilemma is to make one team blue, one green, etc (by this i means armour skins, etc.).
Also other differences should be included such as the addition of a flamethrower for one team or just a distinctive weapon or set of abilities. Maybe a heavy turret for one team, and the other gets the ability to use the scope on their lmg's.
i dont know the exact details, but modifications could also be made to the aliens by having the Kharaa and another alien team. Again with slight difference (another alien class instead of the lerk or fade perhaps). But if there were to another class, maybe a projectile shooter would be adequate.
i am interested to know what the rest of the NS community think of the Same vs Same dilemma... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Did you not read other posts? This isn't an official thing, there is no way a dev (Flayra) will make a flamethrower or heavy turret for it, not to mention the fact that, well, there is no way you can have a heavy turret in combat since you can't build. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe a heavy turret for one team<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the other gets the ability to use the scope on their lmg's.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, "Hi!" uh... i checked your .rmf (as i had a feeling I should since I found out the system) and I noticed a few odd things, first off...
You don't need a hive, AT all! I don't know how you got to that cunclution, I thought I had explained teh way to do it fairly clearly a while ago, but none the less, it's not needed, it'll work all the same without a hive second, team 2's armories, STAY team 2, if not, the team can destroy them and not weld them the only thing NEEDED to be team 3 is the CC.
I'd post a .rmf myself, but i'd need to redo my map as ive done a lot of testing to fix that damn CC bug...
So "hi!" if you could, good job but get ride of the hive and set the armories to team 2, to save from confusion. thanks. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Mr.Bill+Apr 12 2004, 10:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr.Bill @ Apr 12 2004, 10:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, "Hi!" uh... i checked your .rmf (as i had a feeling I should since I found out the system) and I noticed a few odd things, first off...
You don't need a hive, AT all! I don't know how you got to that cunclution, I thought I had explained teh way to do it fairly clearly a while ago, but none the less, it's not needed, it'll work all the same without a hive second, team 2's armories, STAY team 2, if not, the team can destroy them and not weld them the only thing NEEDED to be team 3 is the CC.
I'd post a .rmf myself, but i'd need to redo my map as ive done a lot of testing to fix that damn CC bug...
So "hi!" if you could, good job but get ride of the hive and set the armories to team 2, to save from confusion. thanks. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Alright, ill fix it in a few hours.
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Will you have my children?
Edit: Whats the hive in the aaa room for? I'd expect it would be to kill that hive, but the box doesn't touch the hive, and it isn't an entity. Also, do I just change "Team One" to "Team Two" and "3" to "4" if I want to make it Alien vs Alien?
He said he will be testing soon.
Also here some screnies from t3h glowing.
Will you have my children?
Edit: Whats the hive in the aaa room for? I'd expect it would be to kill that hive, but the box doesn't touch the hive, and it isn't an entity. Also, do I just change "Team One" to "Team Two" and "3" to "4" if I want to make it Alien vs Alien? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The hive is there to make it an ns map, it requires one.
The whole MvM is done with an entity, i forgot the name, but its near the light_environment, theres only team one and two, just change them to alien's to make it AvA.
i think that answers the questions
(ps, i compiled and tested the map, and for some reason i cant spawn.. umm i'm not sure whats up with this.)
Really need an auto glow plugin for amx <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Really need an auto glow plugin for amx <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did you read <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67663&view=findpost&p=1016003' target='_blank'>this</a> post, right up the page?
Really need an auto glow plugin for amx <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did you read <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67663&view=findpost&p=1016003' target='_blank'>this</a> post, right up the page? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yes but amxx is not amx <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
amxx s still mroe or less beta and a large number of existing plugins do not exist for amxx hence why a lot of servers including mine cant switch to amxx for the time being.
Which is why ive asked for a amx one <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i never said it was, dont put words into my mouth.
I have the amx custom version.
ITS AMX
just input keep up the work gj.
-[2iD]Bill D. Hives[SGT]
He's not assuming.
edit: Oh, and i was in a listen server of "wascally wabbit"'s, and he was working on a metamod plugin that does it, and it seemed to work real well. Didn't inflate your gun with the glow either... (if you know what i mean)
Maybe someone could convert as_oilrig...
But if u need to glow in an AvA map,what about Lurking in dark corners?
What about Cloaking ?
Then it will make no sens at all to choose that,also i get the image in an AvA map all they do is running straight to the Enemy Hive,and biteing it quickly to death,will all the games end up like one team is all over its hive,trying to kill all the other skulks on it?
/me imagines a plant with vermin all over it <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also other differences should be included such as the addition of a flamethrower for one team or just a distinctive weapon or set of abilities. Maybe a heavy turret for one team, and the other gets the ability to use the scope on their lmg's.
i dont know the exact details, but modifications could also be made to the aliens by having the Kharaa and another alien team. Again with slight difference (another alien class instead of the lerk or fade perhaps).
But if there were to another class, maybe a projectile shooter would be adequate.
i am interested to know what the rest of the NS community think of the Same vs Same dilemma...
i never said it was, dont put words into my mouth.
I have the amx custom version.
ITS AMX <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
im sorry but the post does clearly state its for amxx
if you have a custom version that is working on amx would you mind posting it here please?
<a href='http://www.modns.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=410' target='_blank'>http://www.modns.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=410</a>
Mandasp:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
The plugins would be more flexible if they could read a map list from a .txt or .ini or whatever that the admin edits to list the MvM maps installed on the server...
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aye, I've thought of that... and until more than a few maps are produced I'm keeping the old constant array parsing majig.
but seriously, i think most of the potential lies in classic <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
only most ^^?
But, on topic, marine vs marine would be interesting. if not.. tfc-ish.
(howdy bel ^^)
Just an idea <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Also other differences should be included such as the addition of a flamethrower for one team or just a distinctive weapon or set of abilities. Maybe a heavy turret for one team, and the other gets the ability to use the scope on their lmg's.
i dont know the exact details, but modifications could also be made to the aliens by having the Kharaa and another alien team. Again with slight difference (another alien class instead of the lerk or fade perhaps).
But if there were to another class, maybe a projectile shooter would be adequate.
i am interested to know what the rest of the NS community think of the Same vs Same dilemma... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did you not read other posts? This isn't an official thing, there is no way a dev (Flayra) will make a flamethrower or heavy turret for it, not to mention the fact that, well, there is no way you can have a heavy turret in combat since you can't build. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the other gets the ability to use the scope on their lmg's.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
dont confuse MvM with TFC/CS
You don't need a hive, AT all! I don't know how you got to that cunclution, I thought I had explained teh way to do it fairly clearly a while ago, but none the less, it's not needed, it'll work all the same without a hive
second, team 2's armories, STAY team 2, if not, the team can destroy them and not weld them the only thing NEEDED to be team 3 is the CC.
I'd post a .rmf myself, but i'd need to redo my map as ive done a lot of testing to fix that damn CC bug...
So "hi!" if you could, good job but get ride of the hive and set the armories to team 2, to save from confusion. thanks. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You don't need a hive, AT all! I don't know how you got to that cunclution, I thought I had explained teh way to do it fairly clearly a while ago, but none the less, it's not needed, it'll work all the same without a hive
second, team 2's armories, STAY team 2, if not, the team can destroy them and not weld them the only thing NEEDED to be team 3 is the CC.
I'd post a .rmf myself, but i'd need to redo my map as ive done a lot of testing to fix that damn CC bug...
So "hi!" if you could, good job but get ride of the hive and set the armories to team 2, to save from confusion. thanks. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright, ill fix it in a few hours.
How's AvA coming?
I tried to get it to work but.. ugh.. it didn't