Stupid Christian - A School Article

Dessidious_ConfuzorDessidious_Confuzor Join Date: 2004-11-05 Member: 32637Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Evaluate?</div> Because it's such a popular past time, I've been seeing some "DURR... CHRISTIANITY... HURR" articles in my school paper, I thought that in my state of unbridled irrationality, I'd waste time with a petulant opinion piece of my own.

Yes, I suppose this belongs in the Discussion forums, but I'm a stubborn bastard (A suggestion to moderators - For cruel and unusual punishment, how about restricting me from all forums <i>except</i> the Discussion forums? That would be a kicker).

One of the things I've been largely wondering about is just what exactly the term "Christian" conjures to the average person. I am increasingly under the impression that Christianity's been monopolized under the banner of the Conservative White Man's Religion - Affirm/Deny?

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I would have hoped that by now, people had matured enough to look past the generalization of Xians as backwater freaks who’ve traded their brains for bliss, ambling around daily and slurring in Philistine fashion, "DURRR, Christian good! Science bad! Other religions also bad! Belief Jesus or go Hell you!" all the while swinging lead cover Bibles at pagans who stand in their way. Sadly, my hopes don't appear warranted with present times.

I am curious to understand what is still keeping this mental portrait of Xians alive. I can only speculate to the impression that the US news media is constantly showcasing the more belligerent breed of my supposed brethren. They're protesting *** again? News at eleven!

As the US generally monopolizes a large portion of our media, it stands that what they have to say sways our perspectives immensely. And just what does their fourth estate have in store for us? Why, important things of course! More details on Michael Jackson's paedophilic escapades, the leaked results of Paris Hilton's IQ, and just what are those crazy zombie Xians up to now? Banning the teaching of evolution in school? Oh forget the fact a large portion of Xians aren't the type to swing their Bibles in politics like maces; normal Xians just aren't newsworthy you see? The spotlight goes to the ape-**** ones, because they generate ratings!

Even if we can somehow disregard the Xian depiction as presented by the US news media, there sill appears this lingering binary to construct religion against science/intellectualism, thus designating the former as the inferior. As far as I can tell, this construction came about from an unofficial matrimony mishap back with Galileo and the Roman Catholic Church… four hundred years ago. Hey, while we’re at pointing out every single flaw of Xianity’s history, lets remember all the crimes of slaughter and torture during the Crusades and the Inquisition, etc. Since then, science has clearly triumphed as the superior force in human progress… just ignore that whole stint with the eugenics movement thing.

Oh, but how dare I to link that abomination of pseudo-Darwinian cesspool as science! Though I am out of my element in making that pitiful connection, how much does this differ in the ignorant attacks on Xianity as anti-intellectual and responsible for numerous crimes and atrocities? Those aspects don’t represent Xianity and they never did, if you have the attention span and ability to read the Bible in context. Unfortunately, people in general have a knack of subverting any positive movement or idea to their own corrupted liking, be it a religion, an economic system, a political ideology, a scientific movement, a new method to wearing hats, etc.

Just as stupidity and corruption can infect any idea or ideology it damn well pleases, critical thinking can be found in any of these facets as well (though seemingly less so). This may come to a shock to some, but Xians can and are encouraged to raise questions concerning our theological dogma! Pretty damn amazing, isn’t it?

But who I am to speak out? I’m just a stupid Xian with a divinely approved mind control unit embedded in my prefrontal cortex (BEWARE OF BAPTISM), directing my every movement to the preparation of the Second Coming. Make way heathens, and bow to your celestial overlords!
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  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    Affirm, that is the stereotype...

    I assume you don't want a discussion so I cant say more than that.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Yeah, you've become more like the 'stupid christians' by posting this.
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
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  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Members
    You know, not all Christians are stupid. And not all Atheists think that Christians are stupid. And not all Atheists are stupid. Stereotypes = BAD HURRRRRR.
    And jeez, <b>I'M</b> the one banned from the discussion forum.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    anyone that are devoted to a religion is blind, they can not see the reality and hides behind their stupidty, they draw forth a old stupid books as evidence of their auguments and they dont believe in darwin.

    Therefor we must conclude: religion is stupid
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Since you can not type very well and have poor grammar, I conclude that Denmark is stupid as well.

    <i> (The above statement is not true, but is the same gross over generalization that is show in metalcats statement.) </i>

    Do not make such assumptions.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 2 2005, 08:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 2 2005, 08:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Since you can not type very well and have poor grammar, I conclude that Denmark is  stupid as well.

    <i> (The above statement is not true, but is the same gross over generalization that is show in metalcats statement.) </i>

    Do not make such assumptions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i hate you, if you say that poor grammar and not typing very well makes denmark stupid, maybe you should try learning danish (yes i know it was not for real)

    and yes i can make such assumptions when its my opion and i was not raised in a religiously stupid family, the whole country dont care about religion execpt the muslims, which is a strong minority
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    Hate me as much as you wish, but I wouldn't reccommend making such blanket statements when they are not true.

    You won't last long in the forums if you keep doing that.

    Question though since you asked me to learn Danish, as if I only know one language to start with...

    How closely is it related to the Latin it is based off of?

    I would assume it is has changed a bit, but how different are the alaphbets, since I haven't studied Danish.
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    i vote for this post to be moved to discussion and leave these posts out of offtopic. If i wanted to argue with ignorant people i would go to the discussion forum.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Moderators, please move this thread to the Discussion Forums where it belongs.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 2 2005, 08:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 2 2005, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hate me as much as you wish, but I wouldn't reccommend making such blanket statements when they are not true.

    You won't last long in the forums if you keep doing that.

    Question though since you asked me to learn Danish, as if I only know one language to start with...

    How closely is it related to the Latin it is based off of? 

    I would assume it is has changed a bit, but how different are the alaphbets, since I haven't studied Danish. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the alphabet are the same, expect we got æ ø å, and also i dont want to discuss religion with you anymore, as its simply stupid, as you wont see the religions from the side where it gets manipulating and makes people kill.

    Also religion is very close to raising kids, and i believe that if you raise a kid with the bible as the major teacher, your kid will become blind or just stupid, thinking that its not ok to be **** and wil lbe against abort, again that is a opinoion qustion

    also when i say i hate you its because i hate discussing this again
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dessidious Confuzor+Jun 2 2005, 05:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dessidious Confuzor @ Jun 2 2005, 05:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would have hoped that by now, people had matured enough to look past the generalization of Xians as backwater freaks who’ve traded their brains for bliss, ambling around daily and slurring in Philistine fashion, "DURRR, Christian good! Science bad! Other religions also bad! Belief Jesus or go Hell you!" all the while swinging lead cover Bibles at pagans who stand in their way. Sadly, my hopes don't appear warranted with present times. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ive met a good many people in my life, including Christians that do, and do not fall into this stereotype. The reason this stereotype persists, is because the stereotypical examples are far more likely to throw their religion in your face. Its true that these "Xians" as you label them are the vast minority in the Christian population, but when they are the ones barking the loudest, its easy to lose sight of the greater picture.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 08:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the alphabet are the same, expect we got æ ø å, and also <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well they aren't the same if you have different letters. I'll do a bit more research and see how difficult it would be for me to pick up yet another language.

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    i dont want to discuss religion with you anymore, as its simply stupid, as you wont see the religions from the side where it gets manipulating and makes people kill.
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    Actually I have seen it kill people and I was one of the ones that murder was attempted upon. Luckily it failed, for them.

    <!--QuoteBegin-metalcat+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (metalcat)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Also religion is very close to raising kids, and i believe that if you raise a kid with the bible as the major teacher, your kid will become blind or just stupid, thinking that its not ok to be **** and wil lbe against abort, again that is a opinoion qustion
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    Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.

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    also when i say i hate you its because i hate discussing this again
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    I have been hated for so many years, you get used to it after a while. I do not like when people can not make their thoughts clear, and use a cushion statement such as you did to state their feelings when it is not what they meant to convey.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 2 2005, 10:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 2 2005, 10:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 08:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the alphabet are the same, expect we got æ ø å, and also <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well they aren't the same if you have different letters. I'll do a bit more research and see how difficult it would be for me to pick up yet another language.

    <!--QuoteBegin-metalcat+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (metalcat)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    i dont want to discuss religion with you anymore, as its simply stupid, as you wont see the religions from the side where it gets manipulating and makes people kill.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually I have seen it kill people and I was one of the ones that murder was attempted upon. Luckily it failed, for them.

    <!--QuoteBegin-metalcat+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (metalcat)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Also religion is very close to raising kids, and i believe that if you raise a kid with the bible as the major teacher, your kid will become blind or just stupid, thinking that its not ok to be **** and wil lbe against abort, again that is a opinoion qustion
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.

    <!--QuoteBegin-metalcat+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (metalcat)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    also when i say i hate you its because i hate discussing this again
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    I have been hated for so many years, you get used to it after a while. I do not like when people can not make their thoughts clear, and use a cushion statement such as you did to state their feelings when it is not what they meant to convey. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you dont even try to counter augument ;O you just say that i suck at discussing? WTH? and no i have no personal hate against you, i feel sorry if people have hated you in a long time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    and no its not a statement that i wanted to use in the discussion, its something we say to be kinda friendly in Denmark, think i should have thought about you arent from denmark, well not actually friendly but its when you get annoyed ;P
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    Look, Metalcat, you have made it clear that you loathe religion. We know, and I doubt we will convince you otherwise in the confines of this thread. So, that stated, can we actually discuss the topic at hand?
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited June 2005
    Ok.. let me make a simpler post for you metalcat...

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    i dont want to discuss religion with you anymore, as its simply stupid, as you wont see the religions from the side where it gets manipulating and makes people kill.
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    <b>Actually I have seen it kill people and I was one of the ones that murder was attempted upon. Luckily it failed, for them.</b>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--QuoteBegin-cyndane+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cyndane)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
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    Also religion is very close to raising kids, and i believe that if you raise a kid with the bible as the major teacher, your kid will become blind or just stupid, thinking that its not ok to be **** and wil lbe against abort, again that is a opinoion qustion
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    <b>Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.</b>
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    Is that clearer for you?
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    but cyndane, all you do is defend religion, why wont you see that religion is bad, and you say you are a prime example that religion can be a good part of a kids uprising. I cant believe this, generaly i think that you just defend it, no real points execpt that you say that there gotta be something up there and that its all about personal faith.

    Yes you did make it clear that you have seen it murder, but you didnt take that point anywhere, i dont know if you think thats good or bad, as you say luckily for them it failed, why luckily for them?

    and good luck on your danish learning project you will have a real hard time pronuncing the words.

    and yes we can discuss the topic at hand but aint that weather or not americans are insane/stupid/weird?

    And it would be a very biased discussion
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but cyndane, all you do is defend religion, why wont you see that religion is bad, and you say you are a prime example that religion can be a good part of a kids uprising. I cant believe this, generaly i think that you just defend it, no real points execpt that you say that there gotta be something up there and that its all about personal faith.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And at the same time, All I see you do is attack it, with an array of opinions, rather than facts. Im fine with you arguing against religion, as long as you present your arguments in a logical, fact-based manner, rather than simply slinging your opinions at the matter.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but cyndane, all you do is defend religion, why wont you see that religion is bad, and you say you are a prime example that religion can be a good part of a kids uprising. I cant believe this, generaly i think that you just defend it, no real points execpt that you say that there gotta be something up there and that its all about personal faith.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And at the same time, All I see you do is attack it, with an array of opinions, rather than facts. Im fine with you arguing against religion, as long as you present your arguments in a logical, fact-based manner, rather than simply slinging your opinions at the matter. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well, you want me to say something good about religion? Ok i can do that, it gives you something to do on the sundays, no wait, hmmmm ok it gives us some traditions and a culture.

    Happy now?

    also i did post facts, i posted historical points where religion turns into mass slauthering peoples recruting center
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 12:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 12:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but cyndane, all you do is defend religion, why wont you see that religion is bad, and you say you are a prime example that religion can be a good part of a kids uprising. I cant believe this, generaly i think that you just defend it, no real points execpt that you say that there gotta be something up there and that its all about personal faith.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And at the same time, All I see you do is attack it, with an array of opinions, rather than facts. Im fine with you arguing against religion, as long as you present your arguments in a logical, fact-based manner, rather than simply slinging your opinions at the matter. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well, you want me to say something good about religion? Ok i can do that, it gives you something to do on the sundays, no wait, hmmmm ok it gives us some traditions and a culture.

    Happy now?

    also i did post facts, i posted historical points where religion turns into mass slauthering peoples recruting center <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I never said I wanted to hear you say something good about religion. So far, your arguments have consisted solely of "Religion is bad," "people do bad things because of religion," With no supporting evidence whatsoever. In any case, you repeatedly draw some of the weakest arguments this forum has seen.

    Also, you pointed out factual, historic points, you say? Not in this topic, thats for sure.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jun 2 2005, 11:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jun 2 2005, 11:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok.. let me make a simpler post for you metalcat...

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    i dont want to discuss religion with you anymore, as its simply stupid, as you wont see the religions from the side where it gets manipulating and makes people kill.
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    <b>Actually I have seen it kill people and I was one of the ones that murder was attempted upon. Luckily it failed, for them.</b>
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    Also religion is very close to raising kids, and i believe that if you raise a kid with the bible as the major teacher, your kid will become blind or just stupid, thinking that its not ok to be **** and wil lbe against abort, again that is a opinoion qustion
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b>Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.</b>
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    Is that clearer for you? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b>Religion makes a difference when raising a child, in addition to instilling good values upon said child. I am a prime example for that.</b>

    Neither Affirm nor Deny at this time.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 12:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 12:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Metalcat+Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Metalcat @ Jun 2 2005, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->but cyndane, all you do is defend religion, why wont you see that religion is bad, and you say you are a prime example that religion can be a good part of a kids uprising. I cant believe this, generaly i think that you just defend it, no real points execpt that you say that there gotta be something up there and that its all about personal faith.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And at the same time, All I see you do is attack it, with an array of opinions, rather than facts. Im fine with you arguing against religion, as long as you present your arguments in a logical, fact-based manner, rather than simply slinging your opinions at the matter. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well, you want me to say something good about religion? Ok i can do that, it gives you something to do on the sundays, no wait, hmmmm ok it gives us some traditions and a culture.

    Happy now?

    also i did post facts, i posted historical points where religion turns into mass slauthering peoples recruting center <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I never said I wanted to hear you say something good about religion. So far, your arguments have consisted solely of "Religion is bad," "people do bad things because of religion," With no supporting evidence whatsoever. In any case, you repeatedly draw some of the weakest arguments this forum has seen.

    Also, you pointed out factual, historic points, you say? Not in this topic, thats for sure. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    read scientical evindence for god or whatever its called
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93607' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....showtopic=93607</a>
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <b>Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.</b>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Is that clearer for you?
    <b>Religion makes a difference when raising a child, in addition to instilling good values upon said child. I am a prime example for that.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought we covered this already, guys. Religion can be a factor, and whether it is positive or negative is determined by how it is handled. It doesnt have to be a factor, for good, morally upstanding individuals to be produced. Can we move on now, or at least correlate our tangents to Christian Stereotyping?
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 12:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <b>Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.</b>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Is that clearer for you?
    <b>Religion makes a difference when raising a child, in addition to instilling good values upon said child. I am a prime example for that.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought we covered this already, guys. Religion can be a factor, and whether it is positive or negative is determined by how it is handled. It doesnt have to be a factor, for good, morally upstanding individuals to be produced. Can we move on now? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    was a stupid thing i wrote
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 01:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 01:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jun 2 2005, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    <b>Religion makes no difference when raising a child, as long as the parents can instill good values upon said child, and enforce them they will turn out more then likely ok. I am a prime example for that.</b>
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Is that clearer for you?
    <b>Religion makes a difference when raising a child, in addition to instilling good values upon said child. I am a prime example for that.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I thought we covered this already, guys. Religion can be a factor, and whether it is positive or negative is determined by how it is handled. It doesnt have to be a factor, for good, morally upstanding individuals to be produced. Can we move on now? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes Soap it was, that's why I was surprised to see it resurrected. My apologies for responding to it.
  • Blammo8Blammo8 Join Date: 2005-02-06 Member: 40141Members
    edited June 2005
    Lol we need a Cyndane vs Metalcat rant topic so topics won't get hijacked anymore.. Maybe Pieceofsoap want's to play the umpire? Oh and maybe Depot can do some guest appearances because Cyndane isn't exactly pro religion.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Blammo8+Jun 2 2005, 01:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Blammo8 @ Jun 2 2005, 01:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lol we need a Cyndane vs Metalcat rant topic so topics won't get hijacked anymore.. Maybe Pieceofsoap want's to play the umpire? Oh and maybe Depot can do some guest appearances because Cyndane isn't exactly pro religion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    FTW! It's a shame a locked thread was resurrected here though.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-Blammo8+Jun 2 2005, 12:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Blammo8 @ Jun 2 2005, 12:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lol we need a Cyndane vs Metalcat rant topic so topics won't get hijacked anymore.. Maybe Pieceofsoap want's to play the umpire? Oh and maybe Depot can do some guest appearances because Cyndane isn't exactly pro religion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    hehe <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    yeah but im pretty tired of that discussion, lets discuss something new?

    religion is pretty much opinions
  • pieceofsoappieceofsoap Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9535Members, Constellation
    <3 to all of you, lol.

    In anycase, this is a topic about a paper on Christian Stereotyping.

    As I was saying earlier, I believe that the "Ignorant Bible Blaster" view of Christians isnt entirely unwarranted, but the problem is that due to the vocality of this miniscule minority of Christians, this view is widely propogated among the external audience.

    to use Lolfighters terminology, "Xians," loud, fundamentalist, beligerent Christians DO exist. I have met them.
    And at the same time, contrary to what Metalcat has been arguing for quite a while, intelligent, rational, tolerant Christians do, at the same time, exist. Ive met them too.
  • Blammo8Blammo8 Join Date: 2005-02-06 Member: 40141Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-pieceofsoap+Jun 2 2005, 01:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (pieceofsoap @ Jun 2 2005, 01:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And at the same time, contrary to what Metalcat has been arguing for quite a while, intelligent, rational, tolerant Christians do, at the same time, exist.  Ive met them too. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    One of the most friendly and wisest person I've ever met is religious. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> He is also very intelligent, but not one of the most <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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