First, the topic description needs updating again (Day Three). Second, the best means of communication might be through private IRC conversations (responding to Mantrid's question). Assuming our seer isn't dead, someone should have information to work with.
If the wolves are going after experienced players, I know who their next target should be. However, if we go with MuffinMan's information, they probably aren't simply going after experienced players.
lost, you have a point. Guess I'm just getting restless. I voted for BadKarma, STG, and now I'll likely vote for BadKarma again - just doesn't feel as though I'm making progress here.
<!--QuoteBegin-Snidely+Apr 9 2005, 04:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Snidely @ Apr 9 2005, 04:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But if the experienced players are being targetted, why is Saltz dead, but Swift still alive? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Lost and karma have the same ammount of games under thier belt as I do as well... Although that may not be common knowledge. However, I really don't feel that the wolfs are specifically targeting experianced players. I may be a target for other reasons, but I really doubt it, because so far I have just been really out of the loop in this game. I don't have anywhere near as many contacts as I did in TWG2.
Really this is all kind of irrellevent anyways, because if the wolfs choose to kill me tonight I don't really have anything I could release in a will that would do much harm to them anyways. The only person this discussion might be helping is either the wolfs or the gaurdian, who we aren't even positive is still alive at this point. I think we should keep our anylasis of game mechanics between PMs and small group conversations, the last thing I want is for one of our human players to throw down thier hand in public. The wolfs hold all the aces in this game.
That being said, I agree with snidely, and am voting for <b>Bad Karma</b>. You seem really unactive, and alot less abrasive then you were in past TWG. I can't help but feel like you are avoiding the lime light for some reason. Your game is NOT AT ALL remenicent of TWG1, but VERY remenicent of TWG2, and IIRC you were a wolf in TWG2. I don't know much about this game right now, but I can't shake the feeling you are playing more of a role this game then I am.
Well, seeing the track record of my connection, I'll better play safe and add to <b>BadKarma</b>'s plight, hoping that something different comes up till then.
(Last post before I go to bed: BK is now two votes from the instalynch. Unless you <i>really</i> want to get rid of him, it might be a good idea to vote for someone else.)
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
That hurts. Im gonna vote for <b>Nemisis</b> out of sheer spite and a sneaking suspicion. The "Unless you really want to get rid of him, it might be a good idea to vote for someone else" while still voting for me, is a nice touch.
Ive been about, when I get into IRC no ones about except Renegade and lost sometimes.
My suspicion seems to reside on the idea that the wolves are going after Experienced players. Saltz seems like a decoy if you ask me. If the wolves are going after experienced players though, does that mean the wolves are also experienced players? Or are they really cunning newbies? I really can't tell at this point but I have this feeling that they have some sort of a plan that has some basis resulting from previous TWG games.
I am going to reserve my vote for now, but I stand by the fact that vote killing Some Tall Guy just because he was an inactive was not a smart move.
I agree with the reasoning for BadKarma being a wolf. However, since he is so close to instalynch, I am not going to vote for him. That will at least help give him a chance to explain anything, if he has something to say, and there are still a lot of people that need to place a vote. As things are right now, if it comes close between BadKarma and someone else, I will probably place my vote for BadKarma.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Apr 10 2005, 01:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Apr 10 2005, 01:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b>BadKarma</b> looks like a good bet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really, what is this? I do not like this. Jumping on a bandwagon like this is not going to help the humans, and makes you look like a wolf (more so than Talesin and Nem0 as they actually said that it was subject to change but as they suspected they might be away from their computer/whatever they'd vote for someone (though I don't know why they decided to hop on a bandwagon and add more votes to someone who already has most of the votes)). However, I don't see why BadKarma isn't defending himself. All he did was vote against Nem0. Anyway, I'm voting for <b>Mantrid</b> for being a bandwagoner and being wolf-like.
Okay, I've got nothing to go on here. The bandwagon was looking pretty good. As soon as I see some evidence pointing at someone, anyone, I'll change my vote.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
The only reason I'd jumped on the bandwagon was due to having about two minutes to get in, grab my stuff, and run out to the car. Just to spread stuff out a bit more, I'll switch my vote to <b>im_lost</b> as the placeholder. I'd rather my laziness not cause someone to drop from the game. :b
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Apr 10 2005, 01:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Apr 10 2005, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That hurts. Im gonna vote for <b>Nemisis</b> out of sheer spite and a sneaking suspicion. The "Unless you really want to get rid of him, it might be a good idea to vote for someone else" while still voting for me, is a nice touch.
Ive been about, when I get into IRC no ones about except Renegade and lost sometimes.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Karma, you know I respect you, but if being voted for hurts you, I can not really see why you signed up. Realistically, it's either being wolfed, or being voted off for most of us.
Following the school of thought that wolves will tend to play silent games (and the parts of the previous gamethreads I read indicate that this is not completely wrong), and seeing that you are certainly the most experienced relatively silent player (which is a very subjective thing to say seeing that I have been involuntarily offline for some longer stretches of time, I'd appreciate if I was proven wrong there), you simply constitute the biggest potential risk to my mind. Let me be clear, I'm quite aware of the substantional chance of you being <i>no</i> wolf, but at the end of the day, <i>someone</i> has to die, so I'm forced to do cost-benefit calculations. Again, I'm <i>not</i> fixed with that vote, which is why I advised people against instalynching you. If some more compelling prove than my current train of thought is produced, and I mentioned two times already how easy that is, my vote will quickly spring to someone else. Until then, I'll however stick to my previous post.
BadKarmaThe Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7Join Date: 2002-11-12Member: 8260Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 10 2005, 09:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 10 2005, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Karma, you know I respect you, but if being voted for hurts you, I can not really see why you signed up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That was a joke man, comon. Were playin poker here, not making friends.
I can't defend against what seems to be a mindless attack. Other than Swift, no one has said "I think your a wolf becaus *blank*". And to Swift, im not being abrasive because I figured it was a good way to get killed. That said, I don't really give a **** if I do get lynched, as long as I can incriminate a couple of wolves. If I do die, which seems fairly likely, everyone keep an eye on the bandwagoners. Personally, im suspicious of Nem and Talesin, which is slightly terrifying on account of them being pretty goddamned sharp.
<!--QuoteBegin-Talesin+Apr 10 2005, 04:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Apr 10 2005, 04:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The only reason I'd jumped on the bandwagon was due to having about two minutes to get in, grab my stuff, and run out to the car. Just to spread stuff out a bit more, I'll switch my vote to <b>im_lost</b> as the placeholder. I'd rather my laziness not cause someone to drop from the game. :b <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's really lame reasoning. If I was running in really quickly to place a vote to get things going, or just to avoid a phantom vote, I would make sure to vote for someone with no votes. Jumping onto a bandwagon without even taking the time to think about it is probably the absolute worst thing that can happen in the game (assuming you're human).
I read back through the thread, and you have jumped on a bandwagon everyday, without a whole lot of explanation. If you aren't a wolf, then you are a bad human to have around, so my vote goes to <b>Talesin</b>.
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If the wolves are going after experienced players, I know who their next target should be. However, if we go with MuffinMan's information, they probably aren't simply going after experienced players.
lost, you have a point. Guess I'm just getting restless. I voted for BadKarma, STG, and now I'll likely vote for BadKarma again - just doesn't feel as though I'm making progress here.
Lost and karma have the same ammount of games under thier belt as I do as well... Although that may not be common knowledge. However, I really don't feel that the wolfs are specifically targeting experianced players. I may be a target for other reasons, but I really doubt it, because so far I have just been really out of the loop in this game. I don't have anywhere near as many contacts as I did in TWG2.
Really this is all kind of irrellevent anyways, because if the wolfs choose to kill me tonight I don't really have anything I could release in a will that would do much harm to them anyways. The only person this discussion might be helping is either the wolfs or the gaurdian, who we aren't even positive is still alive at this point. I think we should keep our anylasis of game mechanics between PMs and small group conversations, the last thing I want is for one of our human players to throw down thier hand in public. The wolfs hold all the aces in this game.
That being said, I agree with snidely, and am voting for <b>Bad Karma</b>. You seem really unactive, and alot less abrasive then you were in past TWG. I can't help but feel like you are avoiding the lime light for some reason. Your game is NOT AT ALL remenicent of TWG1, but VERY remenicent of TWG2, and IIRC you were a wolf in TWG2. I don't know much about this game right now, but I can't shake the feeling you are playing more of a role this game then I am.
BadKarma - 2 (Snidely, Swiftspear)
BadKarma - 5 (Snidely, Swiftspear, Talesin, Nemesis Zero, Mantrid)
Ive been about, when I get into IRC no ones about except Renegade and lost sometimes.
I am going to reserve my vote for now, but I stand by the fact that vote killing Some Tall Guy just because he was an inactive was not a smart move.
BadKarma - 5 (Snidely, Swiftspear, Talesin, Nemesis Zero, Mantrid)
Nemesis Zero - 1 (BadKarma)
Cold NiTe - 1 (im lost)
Really, what is this? I do not like this. Jumping on a bandwagon like this is not going to help the humans, and makes you look like a wolf (more so than Talesin and Nem0 as they actually said that it was subject to change but as they suspected they might be away from their computer/whatever they'd vote for someone (though I don't know why they decided to hop on a bandwagon and add more votes to someone who already has most of the votes)). However, I don't see why BadKarma isn't defending himself. All he did was vote against Nem0. Anyway, I'm voting for <b>Mantrid</b> for being a bandwagoner and being wolf-like.
BadKarma - 4 (Swiftspear, Talesin, Nemesis Zero, Mantrid)
Nemesis Zero - 1 (BadKarma)
Cold NiTe - 1 (im lost)
Mantrid - 2 (Snidely, brute force)
BadKarma - 3 (Swiftspear, Nemesis Zero, Mantrid)
Nemesis Zero - 1 (BadKarma)
Cold NiTe - 1 (im lost)
Mantrid - 2 (Snidely, brute force)
im lost - 1 (Talesin)
Ive been about, when I get into IRC no ones about except Renegade and lost sometimes.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Karma, you know I respect you, but if being voted for hurts you, I can not really see why you signed up. Realistically, it's either being wolfed, or being voted off for most of us.
Following the school of thought that wolves will tend to play silent games (and the parts of the previous gamethreads I read indicate that this is not completely wrong), and seeing that you are certainly the most experienced relatively silent player (which is a very subjective thing to say seeing that I have been involuntarily offline for some longer stretches of time, I'd appreciate if I was proven wrong there), you simply constitute the biggest potential risk to my mind. Let me be clear, I'm quite aware of the substantional chance of you being <i>no</i> wolf, but at the end of the day, <i>someone</i> has to die, so I'm forced to do cost-benefit calculations.
Again, I'm <i>not</i> fixed with that vote, which is why I advised people against instalynching you. If some more compelling prove than my current train of thought is produced, and I mentioned two times already how easy that is, my vote will quickly spring to someone else. Until then, I'll however stick to my previous post.
Karma, you know I respect you, but if being voted for hurts you, I can not really see why you signed up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That was a joke man, comon. Were playin poker here, not making friends.
I can't defend against what seems to be a mindless attack. Other than Swift, no one has said "I think your a wolf becaus *blank*". And to Swift, im not being abrasive because I figured it was a good way to get killed. That said, I don't really give a **** if I do get lynched, as long as I can incriminate a couple of wolves. If I do die, which seems fairly likely, everyone keep an eye on the bandwagoners. Personally, im suspicious of Nem and Talesin, which is slightly terrifying on account of them being pretty goddamned sharp.
That's really lame reasoning. If I was running in really quickly to place a vote to get things going, or just to avoid a phantom vote, I would make sure to vote for someone with no votes. Jumping onto a bandwagon without even taking the time to think about it is probably the absolute worst thing that can happen in the game (assuming you're human).
I read back through the thread, and you have jumped on a bandwagon everyday, without a whole lot of explanation. If you aren't a wolf, then you are a bad human to have around, so my vote goes to <b>Talesin</b>.