Explicit Instructions On How To Play Ns In Steam

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  • evilgreenieevilgreenie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13732Members
    Baad Laaag

    Ok installed steam & ns. Finally get a list of servers & the pings are appalling! With WON & ASE I get best-pings of 130-140 (56k dial-up). With Steam server browser, best pings are 1400 or worse! Completely unplayable!

    In the monitor window, options to stop downloading & limit Steam connection speeds are greyed out & the connection type keeps resetting itself to DSL rather than 56k dial up.

    Has anyone got Steam working with 56k? Any help greatly appreciated!


    Thanks..
  • DemoboyDemoboy Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16970Members
    Allright Ive read all the posts, and tried everything suggested. I can boot up and run steam just fine, I can get into and play every mod, including TFC, besides NS. I can even boot up NS and get to the splash screen. Whenever I try to connect I get one of two Errors, either my Map differs from the servers, or my client.dll dosnt match the servers. Ive installed both Beta3 and Beta3.03 and been screwing with it for nearly 2 hours now, if anyone has any suggestions that dont require deleating Steam and re-installing it Im all ears. I cant give out specs because these machines are in a Cyber Cafe, suffice to say theyre Pentium 4 and can run HL and all its mods just peachy. (Btw, 2.0/2.01 still works and runs just fine)
  • Deathscythe1Deathscythe1 Join Date: 2004-03-06 Member: 27177Members
    edited March 2004
    As advised, I installed the Steam + CSv1.6 package of Steam. All went well, I currently have NS and fmod.dll in the correct directories.

    Steam doesn't recognize it. At all.

    The program goes about as though nothing happened - not an attempt to find a new mod, nothing to suggest that I made any difference at all. I closed Steam, checked the processes menu. Nothing.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    F U STEAM <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    EDIT - Yes, I believe I have updated HL.
  • MakaveliMakaveli Join Date: 2004-03-03 Member: 27099Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Deathscythe-+Mar 6 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deathscythe- @ Mar 6 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As advised, I installed the Steam + CSv1.6 package of Steam. All went well, I currently have NS and fmod.dll in the correct directories.

    Steam doesn't recognize it. At all.

    The program goes about as though nothing happened - not an attempt to find a new mod, nothing to suggest that I made any difference at all. I closed Steam, checked the processes menu. Nothing.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    F U STEAM <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Did you update HL before you installed?
  • Village_IdiotVillage_Idiot Join Date: 2003-10-11 Member: 21603Members
    edited March 2004
    Bah I've finally figured out why NS refuses to show up in Steam.

    When you try installing the older version of Steam, it will automatically ask if you would like to install it into the C:\Program Files\Steam directory.

    The newer, more rescent versions asks if you would like to install it into the C:\Valve\Steam directory.

    NS would automatically try to install itself into C:\Program Files\Steam (or the equivilent on your pc), with no option to change the install folder.

    So basically, NS is installing itself into the wrong folder.

    To get NS to show up in Steam, move your NSP folder (the folder that has all the NS stuff in it) to your actual Steam folder.

    Hope this helps people.
  • GhandiGhandi Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12653Members
    edited March 2004
    I got some major problems with steam!

    At first i was sceptical to even install steam, form what i heard of steam-cs-users.
    But after a while my addiction to ns took over <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Quite often when i start NS in steam i get the "this game is not available, please try again later". I figured that one out, just 'Exit and logout', connect again and voil?, now it works.

    The most irritating thing is the random-freeze bug.
    Whenever im playing ns steam can freeze. In the readyroom, while playing, after 1 min, after 1h, on any map on any server, anytime anywhere!

    Mostly i don't even get to finish 1 game without 1 or 2 'freezings'. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Steam made me leave NS for several monts (when not wanting to install it),
    and now im there again.
    If this don't stop soon, i won't be able to continue play ns, which i love.


    Someone please help me!

    *PS. WON COME BACK, STEAM CAN'T COMPARE WITH U! DS.*
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Have you checked your drivers? I recently installed the latest NVIDIA drivers and they were making HL crash like crazy. I've rolled them back to previous ones since.
  • GhandiGhandi Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12653Members
    edited March 2004
    I was just about to dl the latest nvida drivers, thx for the warning.

    well, one problem seldome comes alone..
    Now I got even bigger problems.

    Just got hold of hl2 beta and I've been quite curious bout it.
    Downloaded it (1gb zip on a 0,5bit connection, took almost a day)
    Installed it. Hardly managed to create a map, even less play it.. that beta is way from beeing a Beta. It wasn't worth the time, so i removed hl2beta...

    javascript:emoticon('::asrifle::')
    javascript:emoticon('::asrifle::')*Don't repeat my mistake, don't dl hl2beta.*

    ...or, almost did.
    1 file couldn't be deleted.
    so I looked it up

    "pole_448Connection001a.phy"

    k.. a .phy file, havn't seen one before... let's check itt
    *Properties*
    wow - Now i know why I couldn't remove it!! WOW!
    "Filesize: 11,5 PB (12 948 265 543 733 248 byte)"
    Well done valve, I think u just solved some storage-problems.
    1gb.zip --> something 13 000 000 as big!

    I got a 60gb hd so I really can't figure that out <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    nm, with this ?ber-file I might as well format my comp.javascript:emoticon('???')
    javascript:emoticon('???')

    I added a screen on the file, just for fun <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    (I'm using a swedish version of Windows)
  • SpongeTheDestoryerSpongeTheDestoryer Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28199Members
    Hey guys! um ok i have steam dl'ed and i got the NS 3.0 v1 beta or something and i dowloaded that, and then i downloaded the beta 4 patch but NS dose not work! when ever i click on it in third party games it just comes up with Newgame load game etc like HL and when i click find sever no severs come up, so i tryed to run the training but when i do it gives me a error abotu missing comander modle or something! i had steam and stuff before when the beta 4 came out i dl'ed it and when i tryed to paly on a sever my client.dll was diffrent from all the severs i went to! need some help!

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo--> = x.x <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EcthelionEcthelion Join Date: 2004-04-21 Member: 28068Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Toxic Avenger {FU}+Oct 1 2003, 06:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Toxic Avenger {FU} @ Oct 1 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, I've seen all the bugs and fixes I can absorb, but I have one that seems to be unusual. I have Steam working pretty well now. I can play cs and ns and whatever. The biggest problem I have is in connecting to a specific server. I have worked with the server admin for weeks now with no successs.
    Here is the problem: I add the server ip to my favorites, Steam finds it, I can see server info, the people playing on the server, server ping, etc., but when I try to join, the connectioin just times out without ever making the connection. All my other friends in other areas of the country can join, but not me. I am on dialup 56k, and never had any problem connecting to this server before Steam. I also installed another Half-Life on a different place on my hard drive so I can play on the server with normal won id without steam. I can connect without steam just fine. This problem only happens through Steam. I have even had an admin for the server at the console when I tried to join, and the server is never even quieried. Yet, I can find any server from the list and join right away.

    I have looked through countless forums (including Steam forums which are a joke because no one ever admins and answers posts) and theres no one else I've found with the same problem. I have uninstalled Steam and Sierra hl several times, tried all the fixes I could find, and yet I cannot find any help. Could the all wise and wonderful admins of NS please post any help they may be able to offer so that I might be able to play with my clan again!!!
    <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have the exact same problem, and I still havent found a solution to this. I uninstalled steam about 10 times, trying whatever possible to make NS work. But as you said, the servers only respond when I search for them in the steam-server-browser, and not the ingame-server browser.

    I wanna play!!!! Same thing happens to TS and all other 3rd party games.
  • DJ_NiemsDJ_Niems Join Date: 2004-04-29 Member: 28312Members
    Hi all. As you can see, I am a new member, but one that has been reading all whats been going on lately.

    Nuf bout that. Ecthelion, read ur post today, and i can say i have had this problem too. but everything seems to be sorted out (and Win XP is a big help). I had the exact same problem when trying to connect to a server, using my mum's work computer she brought home that runs Win 98. I quickly took advantage of the situation and installed my ISDN 64kb modem thats does not work with win xp into it. Now thinking i can connect and play with a lower ping, i descovered the computer could not run NS very well. Whip out my laptop and cross-over it to the computer.

    In win 98 u need ICS (internet connection sharing). I enable it, and i can view web pages and everything from my laptop. Ping the servers fine, but as soon as I try connect, timeout error. Tried every trick in the book. My final conclusion was that my win xp laptop and the win 98 computer do not like each other, and their relationship violently ended with the pull on the plug on the cross-over.

    Do u run win 98 on a ICS? connecting trough a LAN with an xp computer? Or do u have a firewall program (nortan or zone alarm etc.)

    I solved my probs by connecting my laptop to my proper home computer which runs xp the same way i did the other computer. Connects fine (even with my firewall).

    Hope i can be some help.
    cheers
  • CrimzonDeathCrimzonDeath Join Date: 2004-04-30 Member: 28328Members
    Im lost beyond no mother friggin end. I swear, im on the end of sticking magnets to my tower. I cant figure this out. I just want to play the darn NS mod. I have NEVER been able to. I used to have an exe install, a while back, spent 10 hours downloading it, and everytime i went to install it it said not enough room, but i had like 3 gigs left. Now i have steam. Theres new ns install files. I dont care if i play ns through steam, won, or the gates of hell. I want this to stary working, and i need some help. How in gods name do i play it, i dont care which way, but whatever way works. PLEASE someone HELP ME and my poor lost soul.
  • ViroxideViroxide Join Date: 2004-06-02 Member: 29064Members
    When i finally finished downloading everything there was to do, then i double cliked on steam NS and it said something like " wrong video mode, running game on software mode " something along those lines, then when i went to play i joined a game downloaded the map then the screen is black with this in the middle in green text " Natural selection does not support software mode"
    HOW THE HELL DO I FIX THIS SO I CAN FINALLY PLAY NS

    Oh and when i go into CS then in custom game selection NS doesnt show up at all, y is this.
  • JUDGE_DeagleJUDGE_Deagle Join Date: 2004-05-28 Member: 28966Members
    @VIROXIDE
    I think you already asked this in the new player forum 17 minutes before you did here dont you?
    Did you really expect to get an answer in less then 20 minutes a 5o clock in the night?
    well anyway i aint answerin twice, check your first post.
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72307&st=0&#entry1093505' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...0&#entry1093505</a>

    Regards
    Deagle
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    Why won't someone just tell us poor pathetic NS addicts how to play NS with WON!?!?!?!?!?!? did WON stop supporting or something!? I AM VERY CONFUSED please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    sincerely,
    An EXTREMELY frustrated NS addict
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    I'm THINIKING of trying steam, but your instuctions on how to install and run it are just TOO D*** CONFUSING!! im not really a tech wiz, but im better at this than the average bear and I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WTH YOU ARE SAYING!!! if anyone can, please PUT IT IN ENGLISH!!!

    sincerly,
    A Desperate Noob

    (P.S.: <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> STEAM)
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> I don't know if this is what you guys are talking about but, steam keeps crashing on me. I don't know if it's the fact that i have to keep Alt+Tabing to change the brightness settings or what but every 1 or 2 games it gives me a Rundll.32 error making me quit out and when i try to start it up again it says hl has performed an illegal operation. I have to completely reboot the system to get it running. <b><i>Will somone just please tell me how to run NS through WON. Half-life never did this before steam! I know its possible. The guys at the shop do it all the time, WITHOUT A SINGLE PROBLEM! someone, anyone..... please..... help me......

    </i></b>sincerely,
    a p***ed off Steam hater

    (P.S. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> STEAM!!!)
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    Viper,
    Ahh man, I feel so sorry for you, wait, you are a freaking genius, ho can you know so much? Are you on the Ns or Steam team or something? Anyway, if you get this, I wanted to know if you knew how to fix the Rundll.32 error. I don't know if anyone else gets it but im trying to get quick resulsts (I WANNA PLAY!). If you can help or if you need more info post it.
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    umm guys, what is the fmod.dll, are we supposed to have it cause if we are it may just fix my Rundll.32 crash. Please tell me if its important! or is it just for linux or something? I have a:
    Gateway
    Pentuim ll(dont know the Hurtz)
    383 mb. ram
    29.3 gig hd(left)
    Steam
    Half-Life(1.1.1.0)
    NS

    If anyone can shed some light into this concept please do, I have been cruising these fourms for hours and it getting late(I've got work in the morning).
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    Cranium,
    you have to initialize half-life before you install ns(I.e. click on it from th MY Games list, it will initilize, then quit out, log back in and click half-life{should be highlighted}then run through the first part of the game{the tram ride} to make sure you have the proper files)
    Then you install ns and THen you log onto steam and initilize it! that simple buddy(lol not simple at all is it?)
  • uberdudeuberdude Join Date: 2004-06-03 Member: 29093Members
    I have come to the conclusion that NOBODY reads these fourms, I am obviously not going to get help and i downt know why i keep trying. Steam is just way too ahead of it's time to be of any use, WON should have stuck with us a little longer and Valve should just hurry the heck up with HL2! Once Steam becomes the next WON NS mya get enough running power to go retail! Valve your losing Big Bucks on this! If anyone can, tell me where i can contact Valve and write some sugestions for them.

    umm.. Cheers! i guess.. um.. yeah
    <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> Valve <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> Steam <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='turret.gif' /><!--endemo--> NS for not sticking with WON!
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    you just made 7 posts in a row in a thread that no one reads.

    you also have an open thread that I have given you directions on how to do sometihng stupid (run NS via WON, as there are 4 servers).

    You also realize that WON will be shut down. developing for a platform that will literaly be destroyed is NOT smart. Developing for a platform that around 500 people use, is also not smart.

    do not **** and scream at us tech support people, we do this b/c we like to.

    Also, try and make your posts a tad bit more understandable.
  • figifigi Join Date: 2003-06-14 Member: 17376Members
    edited June 2004
    this is too complicated for me
    i have installed counter strike w/steam that doesnt need halflife
    when i try to install ns
    it says "steam and third party mod required"
    what does that mean???
    please help

    p.s is there a ns version (like the newest) does not require steam?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    Follow step 2
    and no, NS is officaly unsported on WON as it would require major tweaking to make a version that works on WON as there were segnificant changes between won and steam. With the amount of hacks that Flayra did to make NS work it only realy works on Steam or Won, no both.

    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->1) Install Steam.

    2) Play HL atleast Once via Steam (just booting up the training mission will do).

    3) Download these 3 files:
    ns_install_v3_b1.exe
    ns_v30_b4_patch.exe
    ns_v30_b4a_patch.exe

    4) Install NS V3.0 Beta 1 (ns_install_v3_b1.exe) (This should auto install to steam\steamApps\your@email\half-life\nsp, if it does not, move the NSP folder there).

    5) Install NS V3.0 Beta 4 (ns_v30_b4_patch.exe) (point this at steam\steamApps\your@email\Half-Life\ do NOT include the NSP).

    6) Install NS V3.0 Beta 4a (ns_v30_b4a_patch.exe) (See * at bottom).

    7) Search your Hard drive(s) for folders named nsp.

    8) If you have more than one you messed up.  Goto Step 3.


    If you folow these steps properly you will not get client.dll or map.bsp errors.

    If you are positive you have folowed them corectly then redownload the installer form a different location.

    *There aslo seems to be a bug with, atleast some of, the 4a installers.  Try pointing it at steamApps\your@email\ instead of steamApps\your@email\half-life

    Note: This is a file stored on my desktop because I have to use it so many times.<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  • AsmodiesAsmodies Join Date: 2004-06-17 Member: 29353Members
    edited June 2004
    I'm really sorry if this has already been answered somewhere but i've gotten steam installed on winxp, gotten NS V3 installed, updated it to bV4, and now i'm trying to get it to 4a, I downloaded the ns_v30_b4a_patch, tried to run it from desktop, and got this error: C:\DOCUME~1\bob\Desktop\NS_V30~2.EXE The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction. CS:0531 IP:0141 OP:63 72 69 70 74 Choose 'Close' to terminate the application. Word for word. So I decided to move it to my steamapps natural selection folder and run it there. This time I got this: ns_v30_b4a_patch.exe The NTVDM CPU has encountered yadda yadda and so on like the first time. The icon for the patch isn't a setup icon it's just a blank application window like most messed up or invalid programs are, don't know if that helps but since thats different from the other installs I figure I would say it anyway. Once again i'm sorry if this is a waste of time because it's been answered somewhere but I looked around for about an hour and a half here on the forums and on steam and didn't find anything so if you can, please help. I love natural selection and played it back on WON servers and all this steam stuff has confuzzled me so the answer may be obvious but will anyone just point it out to me? Thanks

    EDIT: I think I figured it out, I re-dowloaded the b4a patch after I got steam working and ran HL through it once, and installed all previous versions of NS. This time the installer worked, it might have to do with me having steam working when I downloaded it or something messed up like that. i'm going to go try and play now, i'll be back to tell what happens, hope this helped someone
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    actualy, it was probably just a corups file, redoaloading it probably fixed it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • wishmeluckwishmeluck Join Date: 2004-06-16 Member: 29347Members
    Ok, I made the nsp folder ns, cuz wen i install it, its called nsp, then i moved the fmod, but it wont find n e servers.............
  • Fade_ManFade_Man Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29396Members
    I bought Condition Zero which only comes with CS, CZ, CS deleted scenes. I don't have HL...


    Anybody have any info on how I can play NS please! I must play NS... <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Fade_ManFade_Man Join Date: 2004-06-19 Member: 29396Members
    Please help me I would love to play NS again. Do I have to buy HL or somethin or just move the NSP folder somewhere else...

    Need assistance I am so freakin desperate! <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    install HL

    it comes with Steam, it is one of the offical game thingys, just double click it and it will download.
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