well, like I said I have nothing substantial and I know that pretty much all first day votes are going to be random. I'm just stating my opinion, not that it actually has any value on the first day.
Also, in true TWG tradition, I'll counter vote the guy voting against me.
All those "random" votes at the beginning of the day make it easy for the wolves to hide, though. If you don't know who to vote for, why not wait for a while and see what develops? It's not as if the days are so short that you might easily miss the deadline.
One thing that i would love to avoid, if at all possible, is the same voting pattern as TWG V. As sky said, putting pressure on one single person gives the wolves a nice shield to hide behind, but at least we can see that shield and analyse it. 'Random' votes do as much good to the humans as they do damage, but spreading our votes out too thin would be a mistake. Having votes spread out that thin would just cause confusion (One or two votes could swing the day around completely, loads of different people and votes to analyse, etc), and we will need to avoid that if we are to win the game.
<!--QuoteBegin-lolfighter+Jul 5 2005, 06:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 5 2005, 06:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All those "random" votes at the beginning of the day make it easy for the wolves to hide, though. If you don't know who to vote for, why not wait for a while and see what develops? It's not as if the days are so short that you might easily miss the deadline. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And when nothing develops, everyone throws on a vote during the last hour of the day, chaos ensues, and there is no chance to discuss any of the votes.
ByekaName changed from Freak83TorontoJoin Date: 2003-03-13Member: 14484Members, Constellation
Things sure are quiet from those days of 12 pages of day 1 posts. Lack of communication only helps the wolves people.
I'm not convinced CMEast is a wolf, although his sudden outburst of defense does make him look suspicious after his quiet game last time. im lost, he just doesn't strike me as being wolfish yet.
Right now I'm just going to place a vote for someone already with a vote to add to the competition and help give the other two a fighting chance. As I don't have any real suspicions it will be random between everyone with 1 vote. <b>Hellfire3k</b>
Heh, well I'm not sure you could call me quiet, if you look back I was always a pretty active poster even with all the constraints on my time.
Also, I may seem defensive but it's how I always sound when I'm being attacked, I don't mind accusations but I do dislike being falsely accused and Fatal Error has painted the picture far worse than it really was (or so it seems to me anyway).
Hmm, so in other words I have a mini bandwagon against me for defending myself and yet the actual... 'crime' I've been charged with (that of trying to get some malicious 'early' vote in) doesn't even make sense? Of course the more I mention that the more defensive I seem and the more people jump on me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I guess I deserve one or two for stupidly posting without realising the game hadn't begun though because if I felt the need to apply pressure to someone thats the stupid kind of excuse I'd use <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Still if you look back I wasn't quiet last game, it's just that somehow most of the drama passed me by. Check how often I posted, see how my suspicions of Comprox got him voted off (with some help from wolves, doh! Sorry comp <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->).
<!--QuoteBegin-im lost+Jul 5 2005, 06:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (im lost @ Jul 5 2005, 06:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And when nothing develops, everyone throws on a vote during the last hour of the day, chaos ensues, and there is no chance to discuss any of the votes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Also true, but what is there to discuss when all the votes are "random?"
I'll place a vote for <b>Stukov</b> now. I don't really suspect him more than anyone else, but I don't want to risk a phantom if I get caught up in work tomorrow.
If the guardian did save someone, then chances are he covered two people who have the most experience, so I picked someone who hasn't, and doesn't have any votes. I'm voting in the hopes of avoiding lynching the guy who was saved, rather than deciding that someone's a wolf so early on.
EMP_DemonNothing to see here.Join Date: 2005-01-28Member: 38754Members, Constellation
Ugh, I'm having a hard time choosing a vote target...
I think I'll go with <b>Nil IQ</b>, because, as far as I can tell (and as Freak83 pointed out), im lost has a record of random voting...
And your point that "there is no such thing as a random vote", im lost was not the only person to random vote, Planetkiller also did, and I recall im lost saying something about being able to post quickly before work(?). I'm not on my main computer right now, so I can't access my IRC logs, but I'm fairly sure that something like that was said.
Also, you have no votes, so you're a pretty safe for now. I'll move my vote off if that changes, though.
ByekaName changed from Freak83TorontoJoin Date: 2003-03-13Member: 14484Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jul 4 2005, 05:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jul 4 2005, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's too much actually. <b>CMEast</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually I'm going to change my vote to <b>BadKarma</b>. He voted for CMEast like this after his long defense post <s>and hasn't said a word since.</s> Too quiet IMO.
(was going to say that but then checked to see if anyone posted and noticed he said "Decision time folks, sombodies gotta die.")
When quoting people making a vote, you should edit out the bold tags, like so:<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jul 4 2005, 05:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jul 4 2005, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's too much actually. CMEast.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Just to avoid any possible confusion over your vote.
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Ask Sky said, it doesn't hurt anything. At this stage, almost no one actually has any good reason to vote for someone...
roger that thanks for letting me know <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And could someone please tell me the irc channel + password for the current game`?
Also, in true TWG tradition, I'll counter vote the guy voting against me.
<b>stukov</b>
And when nothing develops, everyone throws on a vote during the last hour of the day, chaos ensues, and there is no chance to discuss any of the votes.
I'm not convinced CMEast is a wolf, although his sudden outburst of defense does make him look suspicious after his quiet game last time. im lost, he just doesn't strike me as being wolfish yet.
Right now I'm just going to place a vote for someone already with a vote to add to the competition and help give the other two a fighting chance. As I don't have any real suspicions it will be random between everyone with 1 vote. <b>Hellfire3k</b>
CMEast - 3 (Fatal Error, lolfighter, BadKarma)
Theslan - 1 (im lost)
im lost - 2 (Theslan, Nil IQ)
Fatal Error - 1 (CMEast)
Sky - 1 (Planetkiller)
Hellfire3k - 1 (Sky)
Nurot - 1 (Nurot)
Gwahir - 1 (Stukov)
Mouse - 1 (Pithlit)
Theslan - 1 (im lost)
im lost - 2 (Theslan, Nil IQ)
Fatal Error - 1 (CMEast)
Sky - 1 (Planetkiller)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky, Freak83)
Nurot - 1 (Nurot)
Gwahir - 1 (Stukov)
Mouse - 1 (Pithlit)
Forgot to update.
Also, I may seem defensive but it's how I always sound when I'm being attacked, I don't mind accusations but I do dislike being falsely accused and Fatal Error has painted the picture far worse than it really was (or so it seems to me anyway).
Hmm, so in other words I have a mini bandwagon against me for defending myself and yet the actual... 'crime' I've been charged with (that of trying to get some malicious 'early' vote in) doesn't even make sense? Of course the more I mention that the more defensive I seem and the more people jump on me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I guess I deserve one or two for stupidly posting without realising the game hadn't begun though because if I felt the need to apply pressure to someone thats the stupid kind of excuse I'd use <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Still if you look back I wasn't quiet last game, it's just that somehow most of the drama passed me by. Check how often I posted, see how my suspicions of Comprox got him voted off (with some help from wolves, doh! Sorry comp <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->).
Also true, but what is there to discuss when all the votes are "random?"
If the guardian did save someone, then chances are he covered two people who have the most experience, so I picked someone who hasn't, and doesn't have any votes. I'm voting in the hopes of avoiding lynching the guy who was saved, rather than deciding that someone's a wolf so early on.
I think I'll go with <b>Nil IQ</b>, because, as far as I can tell (and as Freak83 pointed out), im lost has a record of random voting...
And your point that "there is no such thing as a random vote", im lost was not the only person to random vote, Planetkiller also did, and I recall im lost saying something about being able to post quickly before work(?). I'm not on my main computer right now, so I can't access my IRC logs, but I'm fairly sure that something like that was said.
Also, you have no votes, so you're a pretty safe for now. I'll move my vote off if that changes, though.
Theslan - 1 (im lost)
im lost - 2 (Theslan, Nil IQ)
Fatal Error - 1 (CMEast)
Sky - 1 (Planetkiller)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky, Freak83)
Nurot - 1 (Nurot)
Gwahir - 1 (Stukov)
Mouse - 1 (Pithlit)
Pithlit - 1 (Mouse)
Stukov - 1 (Snidely)
Nil IQ - 1 (EMP Demon)
That is quite simply the most wide spread voting pattern I have ever seen.
Players left to vote:
- Renegade
- Gwahir
- Hellfire3k
- TheMuffinMan
- Renegade
- Gwahir
- Hellfire3k
- TheMuffinMan <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually Gwahir voted for Stukov I believe.
Edit: Also remember to PM me what your plans and strats are, it'll be nice for postgame.
Theslan - 1 (im lost)
im lost - 2 (Theslan, Nil IQ)
Fatal Error - 1 (CMEast)
Sky - 1 (Planetkiller)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky, Freak83)
Nurot - 1 (Nurot)
Gwahir - 1 (Stukov)
Mouse - 1 (Pithlit)
Pithlit - 1 (Mouse)
Stukov - 2 (Snidely, Gwahir)
Nil IQ - 1 (EMP Demon)
Players left to vote:
- Renegade
- Hellfire3k
- TheMuffinMan
Actually I'm going to change my vote to <b>BadKarma</b>. He voted for CMEast like this after his long defense post <s>and hasn't said a word since.</s> Too quiet IMO.
(was going to say that but then checked to see if anyone posted and noticed he said "Decision time folks, sombodies gotta die.")
CMEast - 3 (Fatal Error, lolfighter, BadKarma)
Theslan - 1 (im lost)
im lost - 2 (Theslan, Nil IQ)
Fatal Error - 1 (CMEast)
Sky - 1 (Planetkiller)
Hellfire3k - 2 (Sky)
Nurot - 1 (Nurot)
Gwahir - 1 (Stukov)
Mouse - 1 (Pithlit)
Pithlit - 1 (Mouse)
Stukov - 1 (Snidely)
Nil IQ - 1 (EMP Demon)
BadKarma - 1 (Freak83
CMEast - 3 (Fatal Error, lolfighter, BadKarma)
Theslan - 1 (im lost)
im lost - 2 (Theslan, Nil IQ)
Fatal Error - 1 (CMEast)
Sky - 1 (Planetkiller)
Hellfire3k - 1 (Sky)
Nurot - 1 (Nurot)
Gwahir - 1 (Stukov)
Mouse - 1 (Pithlit)
Pithlit - 1 (Mouse)
Stukov - 2 (Snidely, Gwahir)
Nil IQ - 1 (EMP Demon)
BadKarma - 1 (Freak83)
Just to avoid any possible confusion over your vote.