At this point, I'm going to go with Theslan's case against <b>im lost</b>. Why? I already had a few suspicious of him, and at this point, he is also the one with the strongest case against him. Subject to change as all votes.
Well, it seems my internet = really crappy now, and I keep getting disconnected on IRC from time to time. So if you have any questions about anything, it'd be best to PM me, also PM me any strats. I won't really reply to PMs about strats unless it has a question about something.
This reminds me, we need somebody to change the subtitle from day 1 to day 2 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Okay, I think most of you were on mIRC when I announced this, but just to be sure:
My family have prepared a surprise, week-long holiday to the Highlands starting tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't have internet access. Fortunately, Condizzle should be filling in for me. So from now on, Condizzle is Snidely, and Snidely is Condizzle. We are one being. I've let him know pretty much everything I know (which took about ten words).
Only got to play a little of this game, but it's been uncharacteristically fast from the get-go, and fun at that. Good luck, guys.
(I may still post until Condizzle fully assimilates me. I leave at ~10am my time tomorrow.)
Aw shame Snidely, I quite enjoyed reading your posts <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Still, holidays are better than ns-twg I guess...
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Voting for <b>BadKarma</b>, because he isn't acting like a wolf. Which is what a good wolf would be doing. That and I'm at my parents' place this weekend, don't have much time to read the thread.
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Does that mean everyone else is acting like a wolf?
I vote for BadKarma. His vote was obviously a vote against me but his plan didn't work. I know that he really wanted everyone to not vote for me so they would vote for me and I'd die and he'd win!
(This post isn't a real vote, and I'd just like to say that I'm here)
At the moment, i don't think that we have much choice but to go with Theslan.
He makes sense, but there is one major problem in his logic: The wolves could have tried to kill someone else, and ignore a guaranteed kill, because they thought that they were on to something. The entire thing is not as clear cut as Theslan says, and there is quite a real chance that im lost is not the wizard.
Of course, there is quite a real chance that im lost <i>is</i> the wizard, and we have nothing better to go on at this moment in time. I'm going to vote for <b>TheMuffinMan</b> so i don't get a phantom vote. I don't see a point in adding another vote to im lost, just incase someone comes up with some stella evidence for someone else, and that one vote could make the difference.
I agree with you, however currently it's one of the few 'leads' we have. The way I see it is the very worst that can happen is that i'm lost is human (which we all agree is a possibility even if the evidence doesn't point that way) in which case, well second human has gone by the second night and we slightly let our guards down to the wizard. We're still ahead of the game. Meanwhile it would also mean our guardian is safe still as i'm lost obviously knows who that is and if he was human then the wolves wouldn't know.
On the other hand if i'm lost <u>is</u> the wizard then the wolves are seriously weakened and, unless we are extremely unlucky or they are extremely clever, we should wrap this up pretty quickly.
Obviously, I'm going to die today. The problem is, if I'm not the wizard, who does that leave you to vote for? If we assume the wolves chose someone besides me, then we still don't know who the wolves are, and any attempt to vote for them is just a shot in the dark. There's the possibility that this guardian is lying about protecting me during Night One, but neither I nor Theslan have enough reason to believe that to reveal their identity, so no one else can vote for them, even if they suspect this guardian.
So, about the only thing I'm left with is Freak83's log with <b>BadKarma</b>.
I'm pretty sure the lesson has been smashed into your head, eh BadKarma? I still don't think you're 100% clean, but I never intended to get your lynched, so I'm switching my vote to <b>Snidely/Condizzle</b> as a welcome present.
<!--QuoteBegin-Fatal Error+Jul 9 2005, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fatal Error @ Jul 9 2005, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Even after all the damning evidence, I still keep my vote on Planetkiller for past supiscions. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This serious or sarcasm? It's hard to tell on a forum <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
On a side note, everything I would have said on the subject of Theslan's logic has really been said. It's not watertight, but it's the best cost/benifit decision.
Well, good luck humans, especially Theslan. I hope that it is the real guardian and seer that you are working with.
My main reason for this post is to point out that the day ends in 15 minutes, and there are currently four people that will get a phantom vote if they don't come along quickly:
“Im lost, we know you are one of them!” shouted <b>CMEast</b>. “So you’re going to kill me…” said <b>Im lost</b>, “What if the <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> were planning this all along, making us go against each other, I’m saying you shouldn’t think I’m a <i><b>Gorge Eater</b></i>.” “Or what if you are a <i><b>Gorge Eater</b></i>, trying to get out of it, we don’t know for sure, but you seem to be one.” Said <b>Nil IQ</b>.
While <b>Im lost</b> tries to defend himself, and the gorges preparing to kill him, <b>Freak83</b>, <b>BadKarma</b>, and <b>Snidely(from now on, known as “Condizzle”)</b> explore a forest, and found a temple in it. “What’s a temple doing here, in the middle of a forest, and the forest being in Gorge Paradise?” wondered <b>BadKarma</b>. “Lets see” said <b>Freak83</b>. The gorges then enter the temple to see what’s in the temple. They find some sort of computer in it, as well as some sort of statue of a Gorge.
While the gorges figure out what is in the temple, we go back to the rest of the gorges. “I hope you guys know what are you doing, you’ll need as much help as possible against the <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> and you’re going to end up killing your fellow gorges.” Said <b>Im lost</b> with a tear. “We must kill the one, who we most suspect is a <i><b>Gorge Eater</b></i>, they are going to devour us one by one, and we suspect you are one of them!” yelled <b>Pithlit</b>. The gorges then surround <b>Im lost</b>, while <b>Sky</b> and <b>TheMuffinMan</b>, both wait for the rest of the gorges to attack before doing anything. The gorges then suddenly spit, all directed at <b>Im lost</b>. Then suddenly <b>Gwahir</b> from on top of a rock, or piles of dead/ruined chambers, jump down and squish <span style='color:red'><b>Im lost</b></span>.
“Well, another one goes down, lets hope he is one of them and not actually our fellow gorge” said <b>Planetkiller</b> a little worried. “I hope you’re right Planetkiller, I kind of feel a little sad after I jumped on Im lost” said <b>Gwahir</b>. “Well lets clean up, and get ready to go to sleep, I want TheMuffinMan, and Fatal Error, to stay guard for about 4 hours, then you can wake up me, and EMP Demon, and we’ll stay on guard for another 4 hours” said <b>Sky</b>. “Now lets go to sleep…”
Players still in the game: 1. Sky 2. Theslan 3. EMP Demon 4. Fatal Error 5. Renegade 6. BadKarma 7. Freak83 8. Snidely(Now as Condizzle) 9. Gwahir 10. lolfighter 11. Nurot 12. Mouse 13. Stukov 14. TheMuffinMan 15. Planetkiller 16. Nil IQ 17. Pithlit 18. CMEast
Night 3 will end in an hour and a half, or Sunday 5 pm (PST) GMT - 8. I need PMs from roles that haven't PM me and need to. The Psychic will be receiving his/her pm.
Also Renegade, BadKarma, Nil IQ, Pithlit now have phantom votes (0.1 vote) on them. Vote for yourselves if you don't know who to vote for.
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<span style='font-size:29pt;line-height:100%'><b> Day 3</b></span>
<b>Freak83</b>, <b>BadKarma</b>, and <b>Condizzle</b> found a computer in the temple. “Hmm, I wonder what is this computer doing here, maybe it has some sort of information.” Said <b>Condizzle</b>. “Well turn it on” said <b>BadKarma</b>. “How?” asked <b>Condizzle</b>. The gorges wonder, how to turn on the computer, they tried finding the buttons, but the gorges never seen such a computer before. <b>Condizzle</b> then looks at the statue. “Who is that gorge?” wondered <b>Condizzle</b>. “It looks like he is a old gorge, but strong as well” said <b>Freak83</b>.
“Wow what’s this?” said <b>Badkarma</b> “It looks like a switch, and some words.” <b>BadKarma</b> reads the words aloud “<i>Pull the switch down, then chuckle and pull it up</i>.” <b>Badkarma</b> then pulls the switch, does a gorge chuckle and pulls the switch back up. The computer suddenly turns on, then they see a image of a gorge, looks like the statue in the temple. “What’s going on?” wondered <b>Freak83</b>. “It looks like a gorge, and the gorge is saying something!” said <b>BadKarma</b>.
As the three gorges listen, <b>Sky</b> and <b>EMP Demon</b> stand guarding the gorges till everyone wakes up. “So how many <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> do you think are left? I mean how many alive?” asked <b>EMP Demon</b>. “Well I just hope the two gorges we killed were <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i>.” Said <b>Sky</b>. As both of them guard the gorges sleeping, they suddenly saw a image, many flashes of Gorges and <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> fighting. Then suddenly they heard something moving extremely fast, then <span style='color:red'><b>Theslan</b></span> screamed! After the scream, the gorges wake up, and <b>Sky</b> and <b>EMP Demon</b> no longer saw the images and flashes.
“Oh no, he’s dead…” said <b>Fatal Error</b>. The gorges surround <b>Theslan</b> or what remains of him, which seems to be only bones. “We saw visions and images of something, then suddenly heard a scream before we knew what happened, unfortunately…” said <b>Sky</b> sadly. “That means <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> are still out there, lets vote for who we suspect, and trust who we trust.” Said <b>lolfighter</b>.
Players still in the game: 1. Sky 2. EMP Demon 3. Fatal Error 4. Renegade 5. BadKarma 6. Freak83 7. Snidely(Now as Condizzle) 8. Gwahir 9. lolfighter 10. Nurot 11. Mouse 12. Stukov 13. TheMuffinMan 14. Planetkiller 15. Nil IQ 16. Pithlit 17. CMEast
Day 3 will end Tuesday 5 PM (PST) GMT - 8. Players with phantom votes are Renegade, BadKarma, Nil IQ, and Pithlit. Remember to vote before the night ends, or you'll get a phantom vote, starting at 0.1, then the next time counts as an whole vote . PMing me your strats are ok, since I'll post them for postgame.
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This reminds me, we need somebody to change the subtitle from day 1 to day 2 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
My family have prepared a surprise, week-long holiday to the Highlands starting tomorrow. Unfortunately, I won't have internet access. Fortunately, Condizzle should be filling in for me. So from now on, Condizzle is Snidely, and Snidely is Condizzle. We are one being. I've let him know pretty much everything I know (which took about ten words).
Only got to play a little of this game, but it's been uncharacteristically fast from the get-go, and fun at that. Good luck, guys.
(I may still post until Condizzle fully assimilates me. I leave at ~10am my time tomorrow.)
Still, holidays are better than ns-twg I guess...
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Does that mean everyone else is acting like a wolf?
(This post isn't a real vote, and I'd just like to say that I'm here)
He makes sense, but there is one major problem in his logic:
The wolves could have tried to kill someone else, and ignore a guaranteed kill, because they thought that they were on to something. The entire thing is not as clear cut as Theslan says, and there is quite a real chance that im lost is not the wizard.
Of course, there is quite a real chance that im lost <i>is</i> the wizard, and we have nothing better to go on at this moment in time. I'm going to vote for <b>TheMuffinMan</b> so i don't get a phantom vote. I don't see a point in adding another vote to im lost, just incase someone comes up with some stella evidence for someone else, and that one vote could make the difference.
On the other hand if i'm lost <u>is</u> the wizard then the wolves are seriously weakened and, unless we are extremely unlucky or they are extremely clever, we should wrap this up pretty quickly.
So, about the only thing I'm left with is Freak83's log with <b>BadKarma</b>.
Current votes
im lost - 6 (Theslan, Snidely, Planetkiller, CMEast, Stukov, Nurot)
Planetkiller - 1 (Fatal Error)
Fatal Error - 1 (Gwahir)
BadKarma - 4 (Freak83, Sky, Mouse, im lost)
Stukov - 1 (lolfighter)
TheMuffinMan - 1 (TheMuffinMan)
This is based on Sky's count, then updated with future votes. There's 19 people alive, and 14 votes, that's a lot of phantom votes to give out.
You strike me as wolfish. That and muffin man has a valid point.
So, I'm going to take a page from MuffinMan's book. <b>EMP Demon</b>
Planetkiller - 1 (Fatal Error)
Fatal Error - 1 (Gwahir)
BadKarma - 4 (Freak83, Gwahir, Mouse, im lost)
Stukov - 1 (lolfighter)
TheMuffinMan - 1 (TheMuffinMan)
EMP Demon - 1 (EMP Demon)
Condizzle - 1 (Sky)
This serious or sarcasm? It's hard to tell on a forum <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
On a side note, everything I would have said on the subject of Theslan's logic has really been said. It's not watertight, but it's the best cost/benifit decision.
My main reason for this post is to point out that the day ends in 15 minutes, and there are currently four people that will get a phantom vote if they don't come along quickly:
Renegade
BadKarma
Nil IQ
Pithlit
“Im lost, we know you are one of them!” shouted <b>CMEast</b>. “So you’re going to kill me…” said <b>Im lost</b>, “What if the <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> were planning this all along, making us go against each other, I’m saying you shouldn’t think I’m a <i><b>Gorge Eater</b></i>.” “Or what if you are a <i><b>Gorge Eater</b></i>, trying to get out of it, we don’t know for sure, but you seem to be one.” Said <b>Nil IQ</b>.
While <b>Im lost</b> tries to defend himself, and the gorges preparing to kill him, <b>Freak83</b>, <b>BadKarma</b>, and <b>Snidely(from now on, known as “Condizzle”)</b> explore a forest, and found a temple in it. “What’s a temple doing here, in the middle of a forest, and the forest being in Gorge Paradise?” wondered <b>BadKarma</b>. “Lets see” said <b>Freak83</b>. The gorges then enter the temple to see what’s in the temple. They find some sort of computer in it, as well as some sort of statue of a Gorge.
While the gorges figure out what is in the temple, we go back to the rest of the gorges. “I hope you guys know what are you doing, you’ll need as much help as possible against the <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> and you’re going to end up killing your fellow gorges.” Said <b>Im lost</b> with a tear. “We must kill the one, who we most suspect is a <i><b>Gorge Eater</b></i>, they are going to devour us one by one, and we suspect you are one of them!” yelled <b>Pithlit</b>. The gorges then surround <b>Im lost</b>, while <b>Sky</b> and <b>TheMuffinMan</b>, both wait for the rest of the gorges to attack before doing anything. The gorges then suddenly spit, all directed at <b>Im lost</b>. Then suddenly <b>Gwahir</b> from on top of a rock, or piles of dead/ruined chambers, jump down and squish <span style='color:red'><b>Im lost</b></span>.
“Well, another one goes down, lets hope he is one of them and not actually our fellow gorge” said <b>Planetkiller</b> a little worried. “I hope you’re right Planetkiller, I kind of feel a little sad after I jumped on Im lost” said <b>Gwahir</b>. “Well lets clean up, and get ready to go to sleep, I want TheMuffinMan, and Fatal Error, to stay guard for about 4 hours, then you can wake up me, and EMP Demon, and we’ll stay on guard for another 4 hours” said <b>Sky</b>. “Now lets go to sleep…”
Players still in the game:
1. Sky
2. Theslan
3. EMP Demon
4. Fatal Error
5. Renegade
6. BadKarma
7. Freak83
8. Snidely(Now as Condizzle)
9. Gwahir
10. lolfighter
11. Nurot
12. Mouse
13. Stukov
14. TheMuffinMan
15. Planetkiller
16. Nil IQ
17. Pithlit
18. CMEast
Night 3 will end in an hour and a half, or Sunday 5 pm (PST) GMT - 8. I need PMs from roles that haven't PM me and need to. The Psychic will be receiving his/her pm.
Also Renegade, BadKarma, Nil IQ, Pithlit now have phantom votes (0.1 vote) on them. Vote for yourselves if you don't know who to vote for.
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<b>Freak83</b>, <b>BadKarma</b>, and <b>Condizzle</b> found a computer in the temple. “Hmm, I wonder what is this computer doing here, maybe it has some sort of information.” Said <b>Condizzle</b>. “Well turn it on” said <b>BadKarma</b>. “How?” asked <b>Condizzle</b>. The gorges wonder, how to turn on the computer, they tried finding the buttons, but the gorges never seen such a computer before. <b>Condizzle</b> then looks at the statue. “Who is that gorge?” wondered <b>Condizzle</b>. “It looks like he is a old gorge, but strong as well” said <b>Freak83</b>.
“Wow what’s this?” said <b>Badkarma</b> “It looks like a switch, and some words.” <b>BadKarma</b> reads the words aloud “<i>Pull the switch down, then chuckle and pull it up</i>.” <b>Badkarma</b> then pulls the switch, does a gorge chuckle and pulls the switch back up. The computer suddenly turns on, then they see a image of a gorge, looks like the statue in the temple. “What’s going on?” wondered <b>Freak83</b>. “It looks like a gorge, and the gorge is saying something!” said <b>BadKarma</b>.
As the three gorges listen, <b>Sky</b> and <b>EMP Demon</b> stand guarding the gorges till everyone wakes up. “So how many <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> do you think are left? I mean how many alive?” asked <b>EMP Demon</b>. “Well I just hope the two gorges we killed were <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i>.” Said <b>Sky</b>. As both of them guard the gorges sleeping, they suddenly saw a image, many flashes of Gorges and <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> fighting. Then suddenly they heard something moving extremely fast, then <span style='color:red'><b>Theslan</b></span> screamed! After the scream, the gorges wake up, and <b>Sky</b> and <b>EMP Demon</b> no longer saw the images and flashes.
“Oh no, he’s dead…” said <b>Fatal Error</b>. The gorges surround <b>Theslan</b> or what remains of him, which seems to be only bones. “We saw visions and images of something, then suddenly heard a scream before we knew what happened, unfortunately…” said <b>Sky</b> sadly. “That means <i><b>Gorge Eaters</b></i> are still out there, lets vote for who we suspect, and trust who we trust.” Said <b>lolfighter</b>.
Players still in the game:
1. Sky
2. EMP Demon
3. Fatal Error
4. Renegade
5. BadKarma
6. Freak83
7. Snidely(Now as Condizzle)
8. Gwahir
9. lolfighter
10. Nurot
11. Mouse
12. Stukov
13. TheMuffinMan
14. Planetkiller
15. Nil IQ
16. Pithlit
17. CMEast
Day 3 will end Tuesday 5 PM (PST) GMT - 8. Players with phantom votes are Renegade, BadKarma, Nil IQ, and Pithlit. Remember to vote before the night ends, or you'll get a phantom vote, starting at 0.1, then the next time counts as an whole vote . PMing me your strats are ok, since I'll post them for postgame.
Instalynch is at 9.
We should probably post it for all those not on the channel.
But post what you will other than that.