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That's it, if anyone else posts in the thread and they are not providing an update, or commenting on a new update of the map, I am going to cry. I don't want to be reminded this isn't being worked on please !!!
Sorry for the silence guys, I've had quite a few hectic months as of recently and had to put Hera on hold for a good while, but as a few know I am working on Hera and have been for the past few weeks so I haven't given up on it.
I'll try and put out a greybox for everyone to play around with on workshop as soon as possible, in the mean time I hope everyone has a great Christmas and a fantastic New Year.
Alibi and I are actively working on Hera, it hasn't been forgotten or anything, we are just attempting to put it into a more playable state before releasing it to the public.
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We're gonna need to see some pics before we can officially move on from the disbelief phase on to the anticipation phase. I'd change that if I could, but... I can't!
I talked to Janos a few times, even tho' you both give off a sense of confidence in Hera, I have to be honest and say that mine is diminishing. We have all waited for a LONG LONG time to visit you guys take on Hera, but you have kept the creative process so close to the body, it's insane for a non official map actually.
We really need to get to play Hera soon, to see if the map is even fun to play or there is some issues that you guys haven't thought of that could ruin the map for us all. There is a reason we have all gathered for a year in SCC and tested / provided feedback on each others map, I fear Hera will be a pile of beautiful shit, sorry the harsh retoric, if you don't engage players in balancing the actual map soon..
You two are insanely talented, and I really hope you don't take my post in any wrong way I just really want Hera to be worth the wait and get it tested properly. Mapping is a chore and we are doing it for free, I'm not trying to diminish you guys or Hera, I just know that prison, even with 1 year feedback, is still a long way off being on caliber with caged, fracture and kodiak. I just hope to add Hera to those three, that's all.
I think Vert makes a fair point. I don't think anyone doubts your ability to pull off the art, you both are exceptionally talented. What worries me is the lack of testing. In all the time I've been involved with the NS2 mapping community I've never seen anyone come even remotely close to pulling off a map that's even close to perfect on the first build. Look at the history of Successful community maps like Kodiak or Jambi, they've changed massively throughout development. Evenly heavily tested, remake maps like caged are still evolving and refining.
my suggestion would be to roll back the art to a separate build and release a traditional grey box version. That way the fancy stuff is not revealed in any rough state and you can ensure the gameplay is solid for a map you'll have to sink thousands of hours into making pretty. At least someone should do a direct port of the original so you have a reference point for what needs changing for the remake.
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I'll try and put out a greybox for everyone to play around with on workshop as soon as possible, in the mean time I hope everyone has a great Christmas and a fantastic New Year.
IT STILL LIVES!!!!!
And I know for a fact that I THINK you're full of crap!
this map is definatly ns2 quality...actually i will go as far as saying ns3 quality
dont think about the visually noisy becouse its = more detail = more epic looking eyegasm
Trust me
hehe waiting patiently
Who is your mapper and what does he do?
I'd say that's the case. :P
Trust us, we are working on it.
:-w
We really need to get to play Hera soon, to see if the map is even fun to play or there is some issues that you guys haven't thought of that could ruin the map for us all. There is a reason we have all gathered for a year in SCC and tested / provided feedback on each others map, I fear Hera will be a pile of beautiful shit, sorry the harsh retoric, if you don't engage players in balancing the actual map soon..
You two are insanely talented, and I really hope you don't take my post in any wrong way
my suggestion would be to roll back the art to a separate build and release a traditional grey box version. That way the fancy stuff is not revealed in any rough state and you can ensure the gameplay is solid for a map you'll have to sink thousands of hours into making pretty. At least someone should do a direct port of the original so you have a reference point for what needs changing for the remake.