Map so polished now that it should go official! i will continue to find continuity errors and overlooked details (in such large project its maby hard to pinpoint them all by yourself) This is custom mapping at its finest and visually and geometricly my favorite custom map. So remember if i spot anything out of the ordinary is only to make map more perfect!
For continuity maby both sides could have this texture, i aligned original one from ns2 texture folder as mockup for result :P
i know you are currently working on this room, but maby you have not noticed this part on the side so i add it anyway
Did a quick texture to fit the sceene, not an actual glitch but proposition of more immersion in the map and relevantcy or how u say?
very ruff and basic texture i did not know if you liked the idea so did not spend any time on it, just to add it in mockup so u understand what i meaned by it.
if you like this idea i can redo it better as custom screens ns2 quality that fit in there and add warning texts and collision data etc etc. i have some ideas to look more professional.
Oh and also minor annoyance over this lol saw it was centrated on other locations, but just put model inside the blue zone, stuff like this really gets to me haha
A flickering texture and trim that is simple to drag and cover up
main area left side angles should match the inner blue angles in my opinion, the tilt of the top panel atleast
if using nightvision u can spot the skybox on some places, here is one
here is another, corners of door have gaps but can quicly be blocked off
this one is in my favorite room, above the entrance
hehe yeah but with one man army and 3935919591399195193591395 details covered by loads of foliage some stuff get overlooked, like docking, mineshaft and other uwe maps have multitude of errors in them even after countless patches. Thats why its great to chip in with visual close ups in my opinion, it takes u straight to the place and can instantly be dealt with!
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edited March 2014
Played a great game on it last night, and ran around it a bit this morning. There are two things that I thought were interesting that I really love about this map.
Kodiak feels like a real place first. Rather than being a gameplay arena with a setting built around it, Kodiak is a real place with an arena carved out of it. It feels really epic as a result.
The map is extremely focused. On many maps one team will win by catching the other out of position at one of their remote bases and taking it down. I've never seen that happen in Kodiak. The 4 tech points in an opposed formation mean that you don't win by surprising the enemy, you win by beating them in combat. There just aren't unoccupied bases, there's always someone there. This means that games on Kodiak are often really long, and somewhat static in terms of territory. You don't really see base trades. Some of these things might change as people get more experience with the map.
I think a lot of people are going to enjoy this map for those reasons, even though it plays very different from a lot of maps.
Some specific feedback.
Some of the glass windows internal to the map that are very important for gameplay are somewhat invisible. I'm sure I'll learn over time, but at the moment I keep expecting to be able to run through them. Hydroponics is the worst culprit for this. Are there crack decals or something similar you could apply
That vertical plating texture that Radimax keeps pointing out next to the stairs has got to go.
What Radimax said. Trim!
Love the moss on the rocks! (mostly, some of it is looking a little weird at the moment, but I think with a few more iterations on lighting you'll be there.)
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edited March 2014
Updated to 2.4
Fixed the chair just for you samusdroid !
that is all
no srsly that is all
Ok here is the actual change log
Fixed the chair
Fixed multiple exploits
Fixed the low lights in surface access
Fixed a few holes
Increased reflection effect in hydroponics windows
Started on improving the minimap in order to define the routes more
Fixed various issues posted here by @RadimaX
Tweaked lighting a bit in the biodomes
Reduced the light count (in low lights) in Falls / Pass area shout net some more FPS
Improved look of water production (mini updated earlier this week)
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edited March 2014
v2.5
ive added some crates to allow marines to shoot inside the SF vent exit (but not get inside)
I have done this to the WP rt area
S biodome new rock outcropping to nerf the OP PG tactic a bit / provides more cover for the S biodome RT
command changes
hangar changes
for the troll doors for now ive made them all red / red consoles so should be less troll now but let me know (for those people who keep running in to them due to minimal hud etc)
RT has moved in falls
Thanks. I just checked it out ingame and the changes you've made looks really good. Especially Hangar Bay. Haven't played it yet but I think the changes will improve gameplay too.
Wow biodome looks incredible! and the falls extractor, really glad you put it closer it felt like a chore running AWAY from the center of the map, or i mean u had to anyway but this was the place i felt should have rt in the first place very good change Loki!
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The biggest complaint I hear on this map now is the fps drop in falls (or "upper/lower rapids" as I just noticed it was changed to )
Not sure what the issue could be... maybe occlusion geo is too loose? Too many particles? Too many lights? Idk... but are there any plans to tighten this up a bit? It's frustrating to have to fight the wave of cynicism every time I want to suggest switching to this map.
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edited April 2014
@BeigeAlert it has been boosted a lot over the course of the last few weeks.
with everything on low the min FPS i get in there is 70 max is 85 to 90 bottle neck is CPU
if I max everthing out (apart from ambient occlusion / shadows) - min 45 max - 60
with shadows - 36 to 45
with ambient - 20 to 30
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These complaints were from last night
Though for all I know they could just be one of those many pc "gamers" with a 5-year old "pc" who love to complain about how a small indie title doesn't run as well as the games put out by AAA developers for billion dollar franchises.
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edited April 2014
aye but honestly unless they QQ here I cant fix the specific area! i need a screen shot of the worseoffending FPS spots inorder to work out via wireframe what is being rendered etc
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In the game we just played, we were able to arc the armory and other items from there, which did 'splash' damage to the CC. The CC is not arc'able from there. We had to move the arcs closer to get to the CC. In the end we ran in and destroyed it with our guns instead
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For continuity maby both sides could have this texture, i aligned original one from ns2 texture folder as mockup for result :P
i know you are currently working on this room, but maby you have not noticed this part on the side so i add it anyway
Did a quick texture to fit the sceene, not an actual glitch but proposition of more immersion in the map and relevantcy or how u say?
very ruff and basic texture i did not know if you liked the idea so did not spend any time on it, just to add it in mockup so u understand what i meaned by it.
if you like this idea i can redo it better as custom screens ns2 quality that fit in there and add warning texts and collision data etc etc. i have some ideas to look more professional.
Oh and also minor annoyance over this lol saw it was centrated on other locations, but just put model inside the blue zone, stuff like this really gets to me haha
A flickering texture and trim that is simple to drag and cover up
main area left side angles should match the inner blue angles in my opinion, the tilt of the top panel atleast
if using nightvision u can spot the skybox on some places, here is one
here is another, corners of door have gaps but can quicly be blocked off
this one is in my favorite room, above the entrance
- Kodiak feels like a real place first. Rather than being a gameplay arena with a setting built around it, Kodiak is a real place with an arena carved out of it. It feels really epic as a result.
- The map is extremely focused. On many maps one team will win by catching the other out of position at one of their remote bases and taking it down. I've never seen that happen in Kodiak. The 4 tech points in an opposed formation mean that you don't win by surprising the enemy, you win by beating them in combat. There just aren't unoccupied bases, there's always someone there. This means that games on Kodiak are often really long, and somewhat static in terms of territory. You don't really see base trades. Some of these things might change as people get more experience with the map.
I think a lot of people are going to enjoy this map for those reasons, even though it plays very different from a lot of maps.Some specific feedback.
I think YOclan removed an earlier version from mapcycle before i got a chance....
Fixed the chair just for you samusdroid !
that is all
no srsly that is all
Fixed the chair
Fixed multiple exploits
Fixed the low lights in surface access
Fixed a few holes
Increased reflection effect in hydroponics windows
Started on improving the minimap in order to define the routes more
Fixed various issues posted here by @RadimaX
Tweaked lighting a bit in the biodomes
Reduced the light count (in low lights) in Falls / Pass area shout net some more FPS
Improved look of water production (mini updated earlier this week)
ive added some crates to allow marines to shoot inside the SF vent exit (but not get inside)
I have done this to the WP rt area
command changes
RT has moved in falls
It is. The tech point is behind the crate/crashed dropship.
Not sure what the issue could be... maybe occlusion geo is too loose? Too many particles? Too many lights? Idk... but are there any plans to tighten this up a bit? It's frustrating to have to fight the wave of cynicism every time I want to suggest switching to this map.
with everything on low the min FPS i get in there is 70 max is 85 to 90 bottle neck is CPU
if I max everthing out (apart from ambient occlusion / shadows) - min 45 max - 60
with shadows - 36 to 45
with ambient - 20 to 30
which on a 4yr old pc aint that bad.
Though for all I know they could just be one of those many pc "gamers" with a 5-year old "pc" who love to complain about how a small indie title doesn't run as well as the games put out by AAA developers for billion dollar franchises.
Not sure what you mean. I just tried it out in regular ns2. You definitely can't arc Command from there, or near there.