Crikey, reading all this stuff depresses me to tears. Someone caress me and whisper sweet reassurance in my ear. I did love this on the oil site, though:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Q: What's going to happen when recently industrialized China decides it needs what little cheap oil is left as bad as the United States does?
A: World War III<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Obv!
X_StickmanNot good enough for a custom title.Join Date: 2003-04-15Member: 15533Members, Constellation
I'm either:
A) Build me a really big boat and get a load of animals on there or
B) Get a leather jacket, get some metal spikes on it, get me a KICKASS metal buggy thing with a machine gun on, a helmet and some petrol. MAD MAX! WOOOOOO!
Just to go off topic for a bit. Mayans, Aztecs, Egyptians, Celtic, and a few other older religions predicted something was going to happen in 2012. Although, none of the above religions/cultures could say exactly what, they all agreed it was <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> bad <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->. [/off topic]
<!--QuoteBegin-Rotten Flesh+Feb 25 2004, 02:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rotten Flesh @ Feb 25 2004, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh... damn you Netherlands, I'll be 17 by then, hmm, I think I can move out by then, I'll just move to Africa or something.
Do you actually believe all of this? I mean how many times have you heard of "SUPER SUNSPOTS WILL SWALLOW EARTH IN 2002" and stuff like that before? Its all just some load of BS for publicity.
Noeeess!! Does that mean the world won't end? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-DaMu+Feb 25 2004, 10:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaMu @ Feb 25 2004, 10:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Do you actually believe all of this? I mean how many times have you heard of "SUPER SUNSPOTS WILL SWALLOW EARTH IN 2002" and stuff like that before? Its all just some load of BS for publicity. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was talking about Peak Oil. I could care less about 10-20 degree temperature swings.
fact is, there's too much in the world to worry about, so you gotta just not worry and leave that up to the experts <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> if there's something to worry about, hopefully they'll make sure we worry... that is, if this report is like a top headline for the next few MONTHS, then we'll know it's serious hehe
Its like that one asteroid that is supposed to hit us in 2007 or something I remember seeing msn.com go fanatic about it. Oddly they seem to say nothing about it anymore.
[WHO]ThemYou can call me DaveJoin Date: 2002-12-11Member: 10593Members, Constellation
You have to remember that we have the power to adapt our environment as well as adapt to it.
Just friggin look at Las Vegas. It's a city in the friggin dry-**** desert. We really weren't designed to live there. There's not much water. How much of a problem is that ? It's definetly not on the scale of catastrophic, it's merely a big pain in the ****.
You have to accept the idea that anything that doesn't screw up the entire planet from pole to pole will mostly just create a major inconvenience to your average 1st-world citizen at most.
And also remember, my weatherman predicted that it was going to be cloudy today when he made his report 5 days ago. And he was right, how come he hasn't told us about the end of the world in 2012 ?
So put away your tin-foil hats and either get a degree that helps investigate and/or solve any possible problem, or just ignore it and go about your business instead of running around like a chicken with your head cut off.
<!--QuoteBegin-Ryo-Ohki+Feb 25 2004, 12:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Feb 25 2004, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...and Ice ages are more of a newer thing. When dinosaurs were around the average temperature is suspected to be around 95 degrees fahrenheit.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, and large areas of the globe that are currently land were covered by water, especially during the late Jurassic and early Cretaceous. A global rise in water levels would be absolutly disasterous; most of mankind's major cities are based in coastal regions.
When climatic changes occur, they bring with them massive changes and extinctions everywhere. Look at the end of the Permian; 90% of life on Earth wiped out as a result of climate changes. Alter the temperature of the world's oceans by just a few degrees and you have widespread death of algae, which produce 70% of the world's oxygen supply.
Saying "Oh, it's just a natural occurance" completely ignores the fact that when these changes occur naturally, they bring with them mass extinctions. As much as we try to kid ourselves otherwise, mankind remains dependant upon the ecosystem of the planet he lives on: Earth. Actively contributing to something as potentially diasterous as climate change is incredibly short sighted and unbelieveably risky. But that's mankind for you. If it happens in 20 years, it's not our problem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, maybe we should just shift us some tectonic plates, and blow up the sun to prevent those climate changes? What do you expect the human race to do about a natural occurance? Even if it is sped up by pollution, if it's going to happen naturally, all we should really care about doing is preventing the cities from being drowned, like sandbag them or something (of course, I think it'd be fun to go to New York if it were all flooded and hang out in the skyscrapers...but that's just me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ).
Being as we're one of the most adaptable species on the planet, next to some bacteria and crap, I'd say, short of blasting eachother apart with global nuclear war - or equally worse, human-killing human events, we're going to be here until the sun explodes (or turns into a red giant, thus setting the Earth on the Sun's corona...equally as bad - you know, whichever one you want to go with, spectacular super novas or realistic astrophysics).
Of course, eventually the universe is going to end, you know, in a couple billion years, so we might as well kill ourselves now...right?
<!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Feb 25 2004, 02:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Feb 25 2004, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (of course, I think it'd be fun to go to New York if it were all flooded and hang out in the skyscrapers...but that's just me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> didja see AI? good movie, that... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
2007 eh? So I'm going to die during my high school graduation! Awesome! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Oh great, another anouncement from the ubersupreme US government.. (you know, the guys who don't twist scientific data?) idiots. both parties.
"by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California"
Yeah, right! I don't think so.. LOL I couldn't believe my ears when I heared this nonsense on the news.. (the newscaster also seemed very amused .. <3 sarcasm <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) I give that scenario a 0.001% chance of happening.
*edit*
I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Bo Selecta+Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bo Selecta @ Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> "Ahe vill smash dee vater to ti-nee beets and peecus weeth mah baeah hans! Den, I vill hold deh aq-wa-dacht to-geethah vith my mahssive mahn boobs."
[WHO]ThemYou can call me DaveJoin Date: 2002-12-11Member: 10593Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Feb 25 2004, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Feb 25 2004, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Bo Selecta+Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bo Selecta @ Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> "Ahe vill smash dee vater to ti-nee beets and peecus weeth mah baeah hans! Den, I vill hold deh aq-wa-dacht to-geethah vith my mahssive mahn boobs." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> /me slaps you.
Look at this flash for end of the world: <a href='http://www.squizzle.com/flash/endofworld.swf' target='_blank'>http://www.squizzle.com/flash/endofworld.swf</a>
The report was issued for the pentagon outlining a 'Worst Case Scenario' from a group of futurists, NOT scientists. They company specializes in 'what if...' predictions, without scientific background.
Essentially, the Pentagon was given science fiction to make a 'worst case scenario' plan for.
<!--QuoteBegin-Bo Selecta+Feb 26 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bo Selecta @ Feb 26 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh great, another anouncement from the ubersupreme US government.. (you know, the guys who don't twist scientific data?) idiots. both parties.
"by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California"
Yeah, right! I don't think so.. LOL I couldn't believe my ears when I heared this nonsense on the news.. (the newscaster also seemed very amused .. <3 sarcasm <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) I give that scenario a 0.001% chance of happening.
*edit*
I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Since I LIVE in the Netherlands, let me tell you there is a risk for us, our land level is indeed lower than the sea level, we managed to hold it, but who knows.. when the sea rises. Good thing I'm in an area that won't be washed away <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Muahaha.
<!--QuoteBegin-Bo Selecta+Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bo Selecta @ Feb 25 2004, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh great, another anouncement from the ubersupreme US government.. (you know, the guys who don't twist scientific data?) idiots. both parties.
"by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California"
Yeah, right! I don't think so.. LOL I couldn't believe my ears when I heared this nonsense on the news.. (the newscaster also seemed very amused .. <3 sarcasm <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) I give that scenario a 0.001% chance of happening.
*edit*
I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> and i bet youve got better evidence than our govt does. wow, you must be amazing.
peak oil scares me because people think that the only change will be gas prices, but what will we do if we dont have plastic or rubber? we definitely wont be making any vehicles or running any hospitals and we really wont be making any solar panels or wint turbines without rubber gasketry.
be as skeptical as you like, youre the one who will be unprepared.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Q: What's going to happen when recently industrialized China decides it needs what little cheap oil is left as bad as the United States does?
A: World War III<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Obv!
A: WWIII
Silly humans <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
A) Build me a really big boat and get a load of animals on there or
B) Get a leather jacket, get some metal spikes on it, get me a KICKASS metal buggy thing with a machine gun on, a helmet and some petrol. MAD MAX! WOOOOOO!
Just my two cents. hehe
Oh... damn you Netherlands, I'll be 17 by then, hmm, I think I can move out by then, I'll just move to Africa or something.
I'm not really upset because there's nothing you can do about it now, its too late; but you can decide what to do with the time given to each of us.
I mean how many times have you heard of "SUPER SUNSPOTS WILL SWALLOW EARTH IN 2002" and stuff like that before?
Its all just some load of BS for publicity.
I mean how many times have you heard of "SUPER SUNSPOTS WILL SWALLOW EARTH IN 2002" and stuff like that before?
Its all just some load of BS for publicity. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was talking about Peak Oil. I could care less about 10-20 degree temperature swings.
*starts hoarding bottle caps*
Just friggin look at Las Vegas. It's a city in the friggin dry-**** desert. We really weren't designed to live there. There's not much water. How much of a problem is that ? It's definetly not on the scale of catastrophic, it's merely a big pain in the ****.
You have to accept the idea that anything that doesn't screw up the entire planet from pole to pole will mostly just create a major inconvenience to your average 1st-world citizen at most.
And also remember, my weatherman predicted that it was going to be cloudy today when he made his report 5 days ago. And he was right, how come he hasn't told us about the end of the world in 2012 ?
So put away your tin-foil hats and either get a degree that helps investigate and/or solve any possible problem, or just ignore it and go about your business instead of running around like a chicken with your head cut off.
Yes, and large areas of the globe that are currently land were covered by water, especially during the late Jurassic and early Cretaceous. A global rise in water levels would be absolutly disasterous; most of mankind's major cities are based in coastal regions.
When climatic changes occur, they bring with them massive changes and extinctions everywhere. Look at the end of the Permian; 90% of life on Earth wiped out as a result of climate changes. Alter the temperature of the world's oceans by just a few degrees and you have widespread death of algae, which produce 70% of the world's oxygen supply.
Saying "Oh, it's just a natural occurance" completely ignores the fact that when these changes occur naturally, they bring with them mass extinctions. As much as we try to kid ourselves otherwise, mankind remains dependant upon the ecosystem of the planet he lives on: Earth. Actively contributing to something as potentially diasterous as climate change is incredibly short sighted and unbelieveably risky. But that's mankind for you. If it happens in 20 years, it's not our problem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, maybe we should just shift us some tectonic plates, and blow up the sun to prevent those climate changes? What do you expect the human race to do about a natural occurance? Even if it is sped up by pollution, if it's going to happen naturally, all we should really care about doing is preventing the cities from being drowned, like sandbag them or something (of course, I think it'd be fun to go to New York if it were all flooded and hang out in the skyscrapers...but that's just me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ).
Being as we're one of the most adaptable species on the planet, next to some bacteria and crap, I'd say, short of blasting eachother apart with global nuclear war - or equally worse, human-killing human events, we're going to be here until the sun explodes (or turns into a red giant, thus setting the Earth on the Sun's corona...equally as bad - you know, whichever one you want to go with, spectacular super novas or realistic astrophysics).
Of course, eventually the universe is going to end, you know, in a couple billion years, so we might as well kill ourselves now...right?
didja see AI? good movie, that... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The Antediluvians are going to rise from the earth and eat me.
Err, don't mind me, I've been reading the V:tM Clan Novel series... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(you know, the guys who don't twist scientific data?)
idiots. both parties.
"by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California"
Yeah, right! I don't think so.. LOL
I couldn't believe my ears when I heared this nonsense on the news.. (the newscaster also seemed very amused .. <3 sarcasm <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
I give that scenario a 0.001% chance of happening.
*edit*
I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian
breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Ahe vill smash dee vater to ti-nee beets and peecus weeth mah baeah hans! Den, I vill hold deh aq-wa-dacht to-geethah vith my mahssive mahn boobs."
breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Ahe vill smash dee vater to ti-nee beets and peecus weeth mah baeah hans! Den, I vill hold deh aq-wa-dacht to-geethah vith my mahssive mahn boobs." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
/me slaps you.
rofl wake me when reality calls.
Essentially, the Pentagon was given science fiction to make a 'worst case scenario' plan for.
(you know, the guys who don't twist scientific data?)
idiots. both parties.
"by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California"
Yeah, right! I don't think so.. LOL
I couldn't believe my ears when I heared this nonsense on the news.. (the newscaster also seemed very amused .. <3 sarcasm <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
I give that scenario a 0.001% chance of happening.
*edit*
I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian
breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since I LIVE in the Netherlands, let me tell you there is a risk for us, our land level is indeed lower than the sea level, we managed to hold it, but who knows.. when the sea rises. Good thing I'm in an area that won't be washed away <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> Muahaha.
(you know, the guys who don't twist scientific data?)
idiots. both parties.
"by 2007 violent storms will make large parts of the Netherlands uninhabitable and lead to a breach in the acqueduct system in California that supplies all water to densely populated southern California"
Yeah, right! I don't think so.. LOL
I couldn't believe my ears when I heared this nonsense on the news.. (the newscaster also seemed very amused .. <3 sarcasm <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
I give that scenario a 0.001% chance of happening.
*edit*
I'm just talking about the Netherlands here, I don't know about any Californian
breaches, but the governator will probably save them. somehow. he always does. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
and i bet youve got better evidence than our govt does. wow, you must be amazing.
peak oil scares me because people think that the only change will be gas prices, but what will we do if we dont have plastic or rubber? we definitely wont be making any vehicles or running any hospitals and we really wont be making any solar panels or wint turbines without rubber gasketry.
be as skeptical as you like, youre the one who will be unprepared.