<!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Oct 9 2003, 05:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 9 2003, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Only person I can see is Boggle <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I am currently being pounded by 2 french guys who decided to gang up on me, but fortunatly I managed to get a very nice Sweedish person, Diskmedel, to help me (i think I mentioned him already).
He just sent the following message to the frenchies:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->now, i will give you two options.. either you pay me $500, or i will destroy you!
i noticed that you are messing with my friend roadkill, so actions need to be taken
so ask yourself kid... "do i feel lucky?"
oh i just love this game?
by the way, no hard feelings or anything... i didnt mean to be rude, but i *will* send my big fleet your way if you refuse to co-operate hand over the money, and i will let you be... you have one day from now to come up with a reply <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He has said if he DOES send him the money he will just use it to buy more stuff and kill him anyway <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
*edit* Oh and gem, eediot is right, you start off with +1 research, it comes from your population level. For every level of population a planet has you get a free +1 research and +1 production. *edit* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ahahahahah I love it - do I feel lucky? What a champ.
I have no idea Gemin - I guess ur just special <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
And yeah, thanks for the referal bonus culture lads - with my 80 culture + 10% from my basalt monolith + you guys culture its really helpin me along
Have a look at <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/rankings/referer.php' target='_blank'>number 12</a>.
Yeah I am too Gemin - just wait a while, it should be back online in about an hour.
Yay, I'm currently fending off an invasion from a guy from a neighboring system. He pretty much owns the whole system, save for 3 empty planets. I'm also at war with my nieghbor in the system, Leonx. I plan to amass 3 battleships and 5 cruisers and send it to his home planet and block it off.
Do you need transports to really take over the planet rather than just blockading it?
Denebola (-37/40) cronodragon has initiated hostile actions against NS_Mavric Mavric and I have informed him that hostile actions against the NS group will not be tolerated and will be met by swift retribution, please take the time to PM him with your threats
our unofficial battle flag is :
<woops wrong format ill ask mavric to post it>
Mavric has sent him the following:
<Battleflag>
A direct assault assures direct destruction. You are now the enemy of the NS group.
All NS members will destroy you and your planets should you continue this aggressive behavior.
Furthermore, attacking a newer member (myself) requires swift retaliatory action as dictated by our rules. Your only warning is now void.
For a direct assault on myself, you are hereby placed a bounty on your head. All NS members are now aware of your existence and actions. Though a assault may not be immediate, it will be a deadly blow.
<Battleflag>
I sent him the following:
<battleflag>
A bounty has been placed on your head, cease all hostile action against the NS group (NS_Maveric in particular) or you shall be eradicated. Attacks on weaker classes will not be tolerated.
Your only warning is now void. All NS members have been notified of your actions.
<Battleflag>
Any help would be appriciated <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I love it - alliances and deaththreats, and an offical tone. He's going to get some nasty mail from me likewise - and if my little ol fleet of 2 battlecruisers, 3 cruisers and 30 destroyers doesnt scare him, then maybe my player level might. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Any money that can be sent would be greatky aooriciated and eventually payed back. Mavric is in serrious trouble and I dont have the PPs to help him much
so if anyone in our NS alliance can spare the cash send away NS_GreyPaws
Wow, Ive gone an entirely different direction than most of you and formed an alliance with my neighbors.
Weve vowed not to attack each other, and to respond to threats and actions made against each other. Were even splitting the planets in our system evenly.
Hopefully, we have time to grow strong before were discovered <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Parasite+Oct 9 2003, 06:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Parasite @ Oct 9 2003, 06:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, Ive gone an entirely different direction than most of you and formed an alliance with my neighbors.
Weve vowed not to attack each other, and to respond to threats and actions made against each other. Were even splitting the planets in our system evenly.
Hopefully, we have time to grow strong before were discovered <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You have got the right idea, Parasite, however I would only ally with 1 player in the solar system, splitting it evenly would only mean 3 planets. This is barely enough to support a war into a neighbouring solar system. However an advantage you might have is being able to launch 20 fleets which could mean better more calculated attacks. (providing you have the communication.
It is just harder to grow strong with only 3 planets. I am interested in seeing how your situation fares. I, having restarted, am going for complete domination. Hopefully the whole system will be mine I grow less and less unchallenged by the day.
@Marine01 Whoa!!! A whole 17 points of culture a DAY. How have you not colonised the whole system already? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
For those who are able to spend all points i have created a txt file which will show you exactly how many points to spend to get to a certain level of infrastructure. It only goes up to 10 because if any higher and you don't really need to be worry about wasting a few points.
I am thinking about opening a loan shark thing, but I doubt the costing will be worth it, beacuse the repayment rate will be almost 50% of the money borrowed, say someone wants $750 dollars (which would cost me $1250 to send) To just get that $1250 back to in my coffers (with no profit to myself) it will cost that someone $1920 to send it back to me. Over 100% of the original amount borrowed. only really big amounts does it start going down. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
The only real gain I can see is giving it to people with player level 1 and only have 2 - 3 planets, and when they crush their enemy and get big, they can repay it in a couple of days.
Whee I'm about to get crushed by the other guy in my solar system, he just sent a fleet of 8 battlecruisers and 50 odd destroyers to myweakest planet and crushed my level 7 starbase -_- I've sent my ships over to my now sieged planet but I have this horrid feeling theyre goign to get crushed as well
Le sigh <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'll keep ppl updated in this thread es_quatro. So far only 3 of us have responded. if the 4th man continues going afk, we may end up taking over and splitting his share. We'll give him ample warning of course. Also, we are surrounded by uninhabited planets, so I'm not terribly worried about expanding.
I'm suprized how fun this little game has actually turned out to be. Thanks Marine_01!!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Whoever was getting pwned, you need any money? Keep us updated, tell me if you need money and if it will be worth sending. I don't have much, but tell me if any donations will be worth it, and within what time period. Thanks.
I got hit a few days ago and had to restart. I'm now at Alpha Kaffaljidhma (43/-48).
The two guys that posed a threat to me resigned. Now I'm all alone in my system. I've already dispatched destroyers to the two planets with populations. I figure I'll take the two planets with some infrastructure first before killing the afk.
hehe just kidding, i dont need em. i just want to upgrade my robo factory to lvl 12 hehe
its so hard <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
in fact, i dont think i want to lol
im just gonna upgrade all my other planets to get +21 pp per hour, then leave em cranking it out. then just have that planet to be my fleet massing planet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> [spend all points > trade to PP > buy massive fleets]
imagine 6 planets, +21 PP per hour each, left for 3 days
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 9 2003, 08:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2003, 08:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> quatro, im confused... can you explain the chart to us?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sorry, I will post a more update version and try and explain it a bit better
Okay it pretty much just says everything.
Just find the column what level you are at and go down to find out how many pps you need to spend to get to the desired level.
So to go from level 2 - level 6 in one spending look at the 11 column and go down to the row before level 6 so it will cost a total of 91 points.
I make no guarantees about the accuracy of this info, I am pretty sure my calculations are correct. Please post any errors and I will change them.
<!--QuoteBegin--Paranoia-2MB+Oct 9 2003, 08:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Paranoia-2MB @ Oct 9 2003, 08:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What are the benefits of refferring ppl again? I have already refered two of my friends. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The benefits are not taht great unless you have a lot of people who are really high level - skilled players. It also encourages multi's I believe. I would like to think that is has an advantage over people who don't refer, but it is negligible. A basalt monolith 1 is better than referring.
If you aren't referring you really aren't behind. The highest referrer is only getting 46 culture points a day. I only have 5 planets and am getting that an hour. So I wouldn't go all out.
Regards Es Quatro.
FYI, I have no referrals. I have a lot of friends sign up, but none referred, and this includes you Marine01. Why didn't I refer you
Thanks for the list mate. Was going to make one myself, but you saved me the time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.
I am off to another galaxy now with my 3 (only <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->) battle ships to try and get a few planets into the centre. I have 1 problem, my biology needs to get up about 6 levels so that i can get into the centre with 1 planet at each system. I will charge for the centre with my 110pp/h, not bad for 6 planets, with 2 only 1/2 developed.
You said you were pumping out 46 culture an hour, your beating me on that level <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->, whats your player level es_quatro. Also whats your name and location, you could be near me (but proberly not).
Would you mind posting your stats so we have something to compare ourselves with, for most its our first game.
To help Mavric out by showing that guy that we are not a joke I sent this.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Your actions verus the NS group will result in Direct actions being taken against you and any allies you may have.
Attacking NS_mavric was a mistake you will now be punished for.
A direct assault assures direct destruction. You are now the enemy of the NS group.
All NS members will destroy you and your planets should you continue this aggressive behavior.
Your only warning is now void.
There is hereby a bounty placed on your head. All NS members are now aware of your existence and actions. Though a assault may not be immediate, it will be a deadly blow.
If you discontinue your actions, You will only suffer a loss of most planets and systems you now own, at the hands of the NS group and its associated members. If you continue your punishment will be elimination. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can in no way really help. I don't have enough advancement yet, but just sending him more PMs might make him think twice about starting a war with 20 different systems.
I just did a major overkill to the Kingcold guy in my system. Orsos and I have taken over the system and Kingcold is the only guy left. I sent 10 Destroyers and 6 transports to his planet. It has a pop of 5 and a starbase of 2. Me thinks I will win. Not to mention I have Math and Physics at lvl 10 each.
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 9 2003, 09:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 9 2003, 09:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> will 6 D + 1 BS be enough for lvl 5 starbase? =/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No, You are not going to be able to destroy it...
YOU ARE GOING TO VAPORIZE IT! Thats more than enough!
Make sure your ships attack is greater than your enemies defense...so
6Ds + 1BS = 12+36 = 48 attack with a 5 starbase (26 defense), which you should expect them to get up a level - so 42 48 beats the 42.
To guarantee pretty much total victory your A+D > Enemy D... so 6D +1BS = 6 + 24 = 30 defense
30(defense) + 48(attack) = 78.
48 is better than the 42 (...and the 26), so you have a high chance of winning. 78 is nearly double 42 (more than double of 26) so...you should be good....unless the starbase gets to level 7. I can't guarantee that the A+D has any effect on the battle, but your attack is more than his defense, so it should be okay, unless he has some cruisers or something.
<!--QuoteBegin--dkure+Oct 9 2003, 09:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dkure @ Oct 9 2003, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks for the list mate. Was going to make one myself, but you saved me the time <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.
I am off to another galaxy now with my 3 (only <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->) battle ships to try and get a few planets into the centre. I have 1 problem, my biology needs to get up about 6 levels so that i can get into the centre with 1 planet at each system. I will charge for the centre with my 110pp/h, not bad for 6 planets, with 2 only 1/2 developed.
You said you were pumping out 46 culture an hour, your beating me on that level <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->, whats your player level es_quatro. Also whats your name and location, you could be near me (but proberly not).
Would you mind posting your stats so we have something to compare ourselves with, for most its our first game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I just colonised my 6th planet, was waiting up so I could spend all points to it. I know the list is pretty sad, but I can't be bothered doing assignments and I was waiting for the colony ship to arrive.
I don't know whether to just post in stats or do screen shots as files. I need a url for posting an image. SOD!
Anyway here it is. Remember that I have had to restart, There is no shame in starting again. I was right near the Rana (0,0) and the competition mixed with a few silly mistakes cost me that account. I learnt alot, and seem to observe that the best players concentrate on culture more than anything else. or at least they have a high culture level.
My username is Offensive, Im at Alpha Mira (-31, -44) (I think Cronos is the nearest one to me, should be able to see him at biology 10.
Alright, I've made a JPG with a comprehensieve coverage of my empire. Including planets, research, fleet and system information, and I've even added the nitty gritty of each planets infrastructure. Hopefully it is small enough.
I may have to chop some out. or do two posts with the stuff in them. Anyway, if other people want to post there information. I am going to bed shortly, so if anyone attacks me in the next 6 horus, they will invoke the wrath of Quatro and his allies, including Marine01.
You may notice I am going to concentrate more on the culture aspect rather than robos and farms after about level 9 or 10. Different approach this time. Mass expansion.
Regards Quatro, Es
Sod was too big will do second post with infratstructure in it.
Make sure your ships attack is greater than your enemies defense...so
6Ds + 1BS = 12+36 = 48 attack with a 5 starbase (26 defense), which you should expect them to get up a level - so 42 48 beats the 42.
To guarantee pretty much total victory your A+D > Enemy D... so 6D +1BS = 6 + 24 = 30 defense
30(defense) + 48(attack) = 78.
48 is better than the 42 (...and the 26), so you have a high chance of winning. 78 is nearly double 42 (more than double of 26) so...you should be good....unless the starbase gets to level 7. I can't guarantee that the A+D has any effect on the battle, but your attack is more than his defense, so it should be okay, unless he has some cruisers or something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You were on the right track here Gecko,
I am pretty much 95% sure that in battles you go by CV which is AV + DV.
In this case the CV of the attacking fleet is as you stated 78 CV and the defending fleet as far as you can see is starbase 5 which only has a DV of 26 so that is basically a 25CV. I have heard from someone high on the AW forums taht to pretty much guarantee a victory your CV should be twice as high as the persons fleet you are attacking.
This is because of the how the combat works. Apparently the defender gets first strike with their defense value, and the attackers defends and attacks with his AV, and then.... well nobody is sure, cept for AR who is coincidently coming in the top 5 atm. To find out more theories head over to the AW forums and do a search.
But eediot, I will be surprised if you don't win against a level 5 or 6 starbase. However I have seen weirder things happen. What you may not have accounted for is that he may have a heap of cruisers sitting at that starbase. It's a tactic I generally try and follow so they underestimate the strength of the fleet they should send.
I have 4 planets left in my starting system (down from 6, one got taken by the enemy, one was "commendeered" by the person who is helping me), but 2 in another system.
A single destroyer has just been sent to each of my planets in the other system, but by the time they arrive I should have a lvl 3 starbase on each. I've also sent a message to the attacker saying I don't want to fight.
As for re-taking my system, my fleet is beginning to look quite nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I'll be attacking as soon as I get another 2 battleships. And of course, my ally is beginning his attacks as soon as he goes up a culture level.
*edit* Oh yeah, and any spare astro dollars to fund the Anglo-Sweedish butt kicking of the French who attacked me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> would be appreciated *edit*
ive been lurking here for a while and i saw this and i signed up under OmgHax at alpha ceginus x:6 y:44 <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
That guy who attacked NS_Mavric sent me a message telling me how SUPER strong he is and that if I or any of the NS group tryed to stop him, he would send ships across the galaxy and punish who ever send astros. LOL I said, it would take you a month to send a ship to me, so that really doesn't scare me at all.
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I am currently being pounded by 2 french guys who decided to gang up on me, but fortunatly I managed to get a very nice Sweedish person, Diskmedel, to help me (i think I mentioned him already).
He just sent the following message to the frenchies:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->now, i will give you two options.. either you pay me $500, or i will destroy you!
i noticed that you are messing with my friend roadkill, so actions need to be taken
so ask yourself kid... "do i feel lucky?"
oh i just love this game?
by the way, no hard feelings or anything... i didnt mean to be rude, but i *will* send my big fleet your way if you refuse to co-operate
hand over the money, and i will let you be...
you have one day from now to come up with a reply <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He has said if he DOES send him the money he will just use it to buy more stuff and kill him anyway <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
*edit* Oh and gem, eediot is right, you start off with +1 research, it comes from your population level. For every level of population a planet has you get a free +1 research and +1 production. *edit* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ahahahahah I love it - do I feel lucky? What a champ.
I have no idea Gemin - I guess ur just special <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
And yeah, thanks for the referal bonus culture lads - with my 80 culture + 10% from my basalt monolith + you guys culture its really helpin me along
Have a look at <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/rankings/referer.php' target='_blank'>number 12</a>.
Yeah I am too Gemin - just wait a while, it should be back online in about an hour.
um... anyone else getting web-troubles off the astrowars site right now?
<b>quick edit:</b> Nevermind, it's working again =D
I'm Hyami_Masaki in Alpha Zozca (43/-5).
Do you need transports to really take over the planet rather than just blockading it?
Denebola (-37/40) cronodragon has initiated hostile actions against NS_Mavric Mavric and I have informed him that hostile actions against the NS group will not be tolerated and will be met by swift retribution, please take the time to PM him with your threats
our unofficial battle flag is :
<woops wrong format ill ask mavric to post it>
Mavric has sent him the following:
<Battleflag>
A direct assault assures direct destruction.
You are now the enemy of the NS group.
All NS members will destroy you and your planets should you continue this aggressive behavior.
Furthermore, attacking a newer member (myself) requires swift retaliatory action as dictated by our rules.
Your only warning is now void.
For a direct assault on myself, you are hereby placed a bounty on your head. All NS members are now aware of your existence and actions. Though a assault may not be immediate, it will be a deadly blow.
<Battleflag>
I sent him the following:
<battleflag>
A bounty has been placed on your head, cease all hostile action against the NS group (NS_Maveric in particular) or you shall be eradicated. Attacks on weaker classes will not be tolerated.
Your only warning is now void. All NS members have been notified of your actions.
<Battleflag>
Any help would be appriciated <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I love it - alliances and deaththreats, and an offical tone. He's going to get some nasty mail from me likewise - and if my little ol fleet of 2 battlecruisers, 3 cruisers and 30 destroyers doesnt scare him, then maybe my player level might. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Any money that can be sent would be greatky aooriciated and eventually payed back. Mavric is in serrious trouble and I dont have the PPs to help him much
so if anyone in our NS alliance can spare the cash send away NS_GreyPaws
Weve vowed not to attack each other, and to respond to threats and actions made against each other.
Were even splitting the planets in our system evenly.
Hopefully, we have time to grow strong before were discovered <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Weve vowed not to attack each other, and to respond to threats and actions made against each other.
Were even splitting the planets in our system evenly.
Hopefully, we have time to grow strong before were discovered <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You have got the right idea, Parasite, however I would only ally with 1 player in the solar system, splitting it evenly would only mean 3 planets. This is barely enough to support a war into a neighbouring solar system. However an advantage you might have is being able to launch 20 fleets which could mean better more calculated attacks. (providing you have the communication.
It is just harder to grow strong with only 3 planets. I am interested in seeing how your situation fares. I, having restarted, am going for complete domination. Hopefully the whole system will be mine I grow less and less unchallenged by the day.
@Marine01 Whoa!!! A whole 17 points of culture a DAY. How have you not colonised the whole system already? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
For those who are able to spend all points i have created a txt file which will show you exactly how many points to spend to get to a certain level of infrastructure. It only goes up to 10 because if any higher and you don't really need to be worry about wasting a few points.
I am thinking about opening a loan shark thing, but I doubt the costing will be worth it, beacuse the repayment rate will be almost 50% of the money borrowed, say someone wants $750 dollars (which would cost me $1250 to send) To just get that $1250 back to in my coffers (with no profit to myself) it will cost that someone $1920 to send it back to me. Over 100% of the original amount borrowed. only really big amounts does it start going down. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
The only real gain I can see is giving it to people with player level 1 and only have 2 - 3 planets, and when they crush their enemy and get big, they can repay it in a couple of days.
How many people would have used this bank?
Regards
Quatro
Le sigh <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I'm suprized how fun this little game has actually turned out to be. Thanks Marine_01!!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
The two guys that posed a threat to me resigned. Now I'm all alone in my system. I've already dispatched destroyers to the two planets with populations. I figure I'll take the two planets with some infrastructure first before killing the afk.
So if one of them gets to player lvl 2, then you get 2 culture points a day.
NS_GrewPaws, I sent you a fair few astrodollars there, should be enough for at least a battlecruiser, enjoy.
Remember, you can always restart if ur pwned. Its heaps good restarting because you get to avoid all the mistakes you made the first time around.
hehe just kidding, i dont need em. i just want to upgrade my robo factory to lvl 12 hehe
its so hard <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
in fact, i dont think i want to lol
im just gonna upgrade all my other planets to get +21 pp per hour, then leave em cranking it out. then just have that planet to be my fleet massing planet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> [spend all points > trade to PP > buy massive fleets]
imagine 6 planets, +21 PP per hour each, left for 3 days
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4500 PP
huge fleet for someone my size <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Sorry, I will post a more update version and try and explain it a bit better
Okay it pretty much just says everything.
Just find the column what level you are at and go down to find out how many pps you need to spend to get to the desired level.
So to go from level 2 - level 6 in one spending look at the 11 column and go down to the row before level 6 so it will cost a total of 91 points.
I make no guarantees about the accuracy of this info, I am pretty sure my calculations are correct. Please post any errors and I will change them.
Thanks
Es Quatro.
nobody says my name right
IT'S PARANOIA
>=|
lol
The benefits are not taht great unless you have a lot of people who are really high level - skilled players. It also encourages multi's I believe. I would like to think that is has an advantage over people who don't refer, but it is negligible. A basalt monolith 1 is better than referring.
If you aren't referring you really aren't behind. The highest referrer is only getting 46 culture points a day. I only have 5 planets and am getting that an hour. So I wouldn't go all out.
Regards
Es Quatro.
FYI, I have no referrals. I have a lot of friends sign up, but none referred, and this includes you Marine01. Why didn't I refer you
Referring should be recursive too
I am off to another galaxy now with my 3 (only <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->) battle ships to try and get a few planets into the centre. I have 1 problem, my biology needs to get up about 6 levels so that i can get into the centre with 1 planet at each system. I will charge for the centre with my 110pp/h, not bad for 6 planets, with 2 only 1/2 developed.
You said you were pumping out 46 culture an hour, your beating me on that level <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->, whats your player level es_quatro. Also whats your name and location, you could be near me (but proberly not).
Would you mind posting your stats so we have something to compare ourselves with, for most its our first game.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Your actions verus the NS group will result in Direct actions being taken against you and any allies you may have.
Attacking NS_mavric was a mistake you will now be punished for.
A direct assault assures direct destruction.
You are now the enemy of the NS group.
All NS members will destroy you and your planets should you continue this aggressive behavior.
Your only warning is now void.
There is hereby a bounty placed on your head. All NS members are now aware of your existence and actions. Though a assault may not be immediate, it will be a deadly blow.
If you discontinue your actions, You will only suffer a loss of most planets and systems you now own, at the hands of the NS group and its associated members.
If you continue your punishment will be elimination.
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I can in no way really help. I don't have enough advancement yet, but just sending him more PMs might make him think twice about starting a war with 20 different systems.
I just did a major overkill to the Kingcold guy in my system.
Orsos and I have taken over the system and Kingcold is the only guy left.
I sent 10 Destroyers and 6 transports to his planet.
It has a pop of 5 and a starbase of 2.
Me thinks I will win.
Not to mention I have Math and Physics at lvl 10 each.
No,
You are not going to be able to destroy it...
YOU ARE GOING TO VAPORIZE IT!
Thats more than enough!
Make sure your ships attack is greater than your enemies defense...so
6Ds + 1BS = 12+36 = 48 attack
with a 5 starbase (26 defense), which you should expect them to get up a level - so 42
48 beats the 42.
To guarantee pretty much total victory your A+D > Enemy D...
so 6D +1BS = 6 + 24 = 30 defense
30(defense) + 48(attack) = 78.
48 is better than the 42 (...and the 26), so you have a high chance of winning.
78 is nearly double 42 (more than double of 26) so...you should be good....unless the starbase gets to level 7. I can't guarantee that the A+D has any effect on the battle, but your attack is more than his defense, so it should be okay, unless he has some cruisers or something.
I am off to another galaxy now with my 3 (only <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->) battle ships to try and get a few planets into the centre. I have 1 problem, my biology needs to get up about 6 levels so that i can get into the centre with 1 planet at each system. I will charge for the centre with my 110pp/h, not bad for 6 planets, with 2 only 1/2 developed.
You said you were pumping out 46 culture an hour, your beating me on that level <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->, whats your player level es_quatro. Also whats your name and location, you could be near me (but proberly not).
Would you mind posting your stats so we have something to compare ourselves with, for most its our first game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I just colonised my 6th planet, was waiting up so I could spend all points to it. I know the list is pretty sad, but I can't be bothered doing assignments and I was waiting for the colony ship to arrive.
I don't know whether to just post in stats or do screen shots as files. I need a url for posting an image.
SOD!
Anyway here it is. Remember that I have had to restart, There is no shame in starting again. I was right near the Rana (0,0) and the competition mixed with a few silly mistakes cost me that account. I learnt alot, and seem to observe that the best players concentrate on culture more than anything else. or at least they have a high culture level.
My username is Offensive, Im at Alpha Mira (-31, -44) (I think Cronos is the nearest one to me, should be able to see him at biology 10.
Alright, I've made a JPG with a comprehensieve coverage of my empire. Including planets, research, fleet and system information, and I've even added the nitty gritty of each planets infrastructure. Hopefully it is small enough.
I may have to chop some out. or do two posts with the stuff in them. Anyway, if other people want to post there information. I am going to bed shortly, so if anyone attacks me in the next 6 horus, they will invoke the wrath of Quatro and his allies, including Marine01.
You may notice I am going to concentrate more on the culture aspect rather than robos and farms after about level 9 or 10. Different approach this time. Mass expansion.
Regards
Quatro, Es
Sod was too big will do second post with infratstructure in it.
**edit** I'm player level 3
Make sure your ships attack is greater than your enemies defense...so
6Ds + 1BS = 12+36 = 48 attack
with a 5 starbase (26 defense), which you should expect them to get up a level - so 42
48 beats the 42.
To guarantee pretty much total victory your A+D > Enemy D...
so 6D +1BS = 6 + 24 = 30 defense
30(defense) + 48(attack) = 78.
48 is better than the 42 (...and the 26), so you have a high chance of winning.
78 is nearly double 42 (more than double of 26) so...you should be good....unless the starbase gets to level 7. I can't guarantee that the A+D has any effect on the battle, but your attack is more than his defense, so it should be okay, unless he has some cruisers or something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You were on the right track here Gecko,
I am pretty much 95% sure that in battles you go by CV which is AV + DV.
In this case the CV of the attacking fleet is as you stated 78 CV and the defending fleet as far as you can see is starbase 5 which only has a DV of 26 so that is basically a 25CV. I have heard from someone high on the AW forums taht to pretty much guarantee a victory your CV should be twice as high as the persons fleet you are attacking.
This is because of the how the combat works. Apparently the defender gets first strike with their defense value, and the attackers defends and attacks with his AV, and then.... well nobody is sure, cept for AR who is coincidently coming in the top 5 atm. To find out more theories head over to the AW forums and do a search.
But eediot, I will be surprised if you don't win against a level 5 or 6 starbase. However I have seen weirder things happen. What you may not have accounted for is that he may have a heap of cruisers sitting at that starbase. It's a tactic I generally try and follow so they underestimate the strength of the fleet they should send.
Regards
Quatro
I have 4 planets left in my starting system (down from 6, one got taken by the enemy, one was "commendeered" by the person who is helping me), but 2 in another system.
A single destroyer has just been sent to each of my planets in the other system, but by the time they arrive I should have a lvl 3 starbase on each. I've also sent a message to the attacker saying I don't want to fight.
As for re-taking my system, my fleet is beginning to look quite nice <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I'll be attacking as soon as I get another 2 battleships. And of course, my ally is beginning his attacks as soon as he goes up a culture level.
*edit* Oh yeah, and any spare astro dollars to fund the Anglo-Sweedish butt kicking of the French who attacked me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> would be appreciated *edit*
LOL
I said, it would take you a month to send a ship to me, so that really doesn't scare me at all.