<!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Oct 6 2003, 01:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Oct 6 2003, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ehehehe Diablus if your maths is really poor - its possible he might beat YOU there :O
Either way someone is going to get themselves some exp points <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The Ally button doesnt come in till the next beta, but it is coming. Remember this is like 1.04 - its not the final product.
Well, whether or not you go with maths pretty much depends on the competition. For eediot getting maths isnt smart because the only powerful person around is an ally. But for Gecko, he might have some ppl to worry about, so he will need it.
Small note on precision building - if you want to go up 3 levels dont wait till you have enough for the entire three levels, just only spend when you can get it up at least 1.
The idea is to never have anything half built - you either build it fully, or dont build at all. Do or do not - there should be no halfway. That way, you always have the option to change your mind, and flexibility is good. It really stinks when you have sunk 400pp into a battlecruiser and get a msg saying the nme is coming in 4 hours. You wont be able to finish that battleship, and that 400pp you cant touch, so you cant spend it on a starbase.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> There is no guarantee the ally functionality is coming in the next beta, or any future beta.
It would appear the community can be half divided in this, as one camp likes to keep there close knit clans and take over their relevant sections of the galaxy, while the other camp like to amass quite a few allies in the vicinity of 10-20 and dominate the galaxy to go on and win the beta.
Near the end of last beta there was a poll for what people wanted most in beta 3. Alliance support won by far, however there is no real added alliance support that has been added. Personally I think the currenty written support is enough, as it encourages allies to be in regular contact, plan and attack. Where the click of a button and you may not have to talk to you allies for the rest of the beta.
However there exists a <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2240&start=45' target='_blank'>Wish list</a> where you can post wishes (or improvements for the game) I would recommend using the forums and playing the game for at least 2 weeks before posting anything here though.
While I am quoting Marine01 on this topic, can I just add to this
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The idea is to never have anything half built - you either build it fully, or dont build at all. Do or do not - there should be no halfway. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is an exception to this, when you have a fledging planet that you can't spend all points at. But you want to build a fleet while keeping the little points that planet has acquired for its own development, this is where you spend it as much as you have. Otherwise it will take forever to get to par with the rest of your civilization.
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 7 2003, 06:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 7 2003, 06:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hehhe, i like my avatar too <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> You're like one of the first people to notice it lol
I don't think you're close to me.. btw marine01 IS keeping track of NS players. First page, first post. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> He edits it every now and then to add more people.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You're incorrect. I am close, relatively speaking, cos I can spend all points there. all I need is level 14 biology (give me a week and a half) and I should be able to takeove....I mean see your system.
You might be surprised... Well, okay, no, you won't be <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> But I will hopefully get Biology first, and you'll be getting a few Destroyers your way... One or two should do the trick. Behold!
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 5 2003, 10:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 5 2003, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yes - after you get social up to a pretty high level, go either economy, energy, or biology
look at the glossary [click on the name] and decide what style of play you want to use <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> The three best sciences to go for, as recommended by at least two AW "veterans" in beta 2 was Social. Energy. Physics.
In that order. I guess it goes after that to
Biology Economy - If you start to research this, make sure you are willingly to go the distance to the appropriate x4, x7 or x0 so you enjoy the full benefits of the upgrade. Mathematics - this has been found to be pretty useless apart form the ATC.
Yeah, my maths is 0 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't intend to even touch it for a good long while, hehe. Or ever. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Not until I start doing sneaky stuff.
How many planets you got, quatro? Like, how are you coming along? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: Hahahaha... I pity the fool who has to read this thread from the beginning!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
You might be surprised... Well, okay, no, you won't be <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> But I will hopefully get Biology first, and you'll be getting a few Destroyers your way... One or two should do the trick. Behold! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> There is more incentive for me to expand into your system than there is for you to expand to my system.
I look forward to your destroyers.... I need the experience. They shouldn't be any troubles in dealing with your fleet, with my financial backers <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> allies.
stop being so mean <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Oct 7 2003, 07:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Oct 7 2003, 07:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, my maths is 0 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't intend to even touch it for a good long while, hehe. Or ever. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Not until I start doing sneaky stuff.
How many planets you got, quatro? Like, how are you coming along? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: Hahahaha... I pity the fool who has to read this thread from the beginning!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I have got a grand total of 1 planets, with 1 population. I have only restarted 3 hours ago tho. That is why I have so much time to be posting on this forum.
I have tried to read the thread from the beginnning but have failed.
I will find you and I will steal your planet from your ally, and if you do not conform, I will annhilate you! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What a nubling.
My cheif ally, is at the centre of the galaxy and you would need a level 26 biology to see him for starters, He has 10 planets and earning almost 300pp an hour.
How many planets do you have eediot, I see you are from Australia too, whereabouts, I am from Brisbane.
Hehe, not nearly enough <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
But i meant whoever you're taking over your system with <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
But, please, let's not get naughty here... We're all friends <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<u>Free Planets</u> Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 2 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 3 <- My ship will be here in 2 hours Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 5 <- My ship will be there Oct 8 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 9 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 11 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 12
<b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 4 </b> <u>...............................lvl ........ Progress Remain </u> Population +9..........8 ..................127 Hydroponic Farm......8 ..................128 Robotic Factory........8 ..................128 Galactic Cybernet.....5 ..................38 Research Lab...........7 ..................86 Starbase..................5 ..................38
Whoa whoa nublets, way to much info here for me to reply to.
First off, quatro I'm off to bed, so I cant get on msn. I will be on tomorrow though. Listen to Quatro over me, he introduced me to the game and knows heaps more then I do. However, he isnt quite as diplomatic/tactful, so bear with him.
Orsos could be a problem there majian - have you considered an alliance - 50/50 split?
That said, ppl we need to use some serious edit button in this thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. I know sometimes ppl miss what you post, but please do try, it makes it a lot easier to answer when all the info is grouped in one thread. Thanks. I know I havent helped much tonight but I'll try and get around to it tomorrow.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Here is my system Alpha Al Kalb al Asad (12/-45)
Free Planets Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 2 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 3 <- My ship will be here in 2 hours Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 5 <- My ship will be there Oct 8 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 9 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 11 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 12
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 4 ...............................lvl ........ Progress Remain Population +9..........8 ..................127 Hydroponic Farm......8 ..................128 Robotic Factory........8 ..................128 Galactic Cybernet.....5 ..................38 Research Lab...........7 ..................86 Starbase..................5 ..................38
...................................lvl Science (+15 per hour) Remain Biology........................0 ............................................5 Economy.....................5 ............................................22 Energy........................0 .............................................5 Mathematics...............0 .............................................5 Physics.......................3 .............................................12 Social..........................9 ............................................16 Culture.......................5 .............................................55 Culture (+5 per hour) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Oct 7 2003, 09:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Oct 7 2003, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Orsos could be a problem there majin - have you considered an alliance - 50/50 split? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can't get a hold of him. So I'm going to protect my self and If I run into alot of trouble I hope that a fellow NS member will come to my system and back me up so I can survive. But due to the fact I am only 2 days of prgress behind him and equal levels every where else I don't think hes going to try anything until the AFkers are dead.
<!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Oct 7 2003, 09:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Oct 7 2003, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Here is my system <b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad (12/-45)</b>
<u>Free Planets</u> Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 2 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 3 <- My ship will be here in 2 hours Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 5 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 9 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 11 Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 12
<b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 4 </b> <u>...............................lvl ........ Progress Remain </u> Population +9..........8 ..................127 Hydroponic Farm......8 ..................128 Robotic Factory........8 ..................128 Galactic Cybernet.....5 ..................38 Research Lab...........7 ..................86 Starbase..................5 ..................38
<u>...................................lvl Science (+15 per hour) Remain </u> Biology........................0 ............................................5 Economy.....................5 ............................................22 Energy........................0 .............................................5 Mathematics...............0 .............................................5 Physics.......................3 .............................................12 Social..........................9 ............................................16 Culture.......................5 .............................................55 <b>Culture (+5 per hour) </b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> May I suggest a few things,
Firstly, you have your research labs higher than your cybernets, big no. Remember you also get science from population as well, you want to colonise as many planets as quickly as possible, this is beacuse it is easy to get to a population 8 quickly and level 8 is very cheap.
While I strongly advise colonising planets you can spend all points at, The first 1 or 2 don't really matter cos you need $150 which will take quite a few hours to get with 1-2 planets. So colonise the first two below you then start going and colonising as quickly and as fast as you can, so remember to pump culture.
I also recommend leaving your starbase low, so noobs attack you with a fleet they think that can beat it and you can bump it right up after they launched but before they get there.
I say get 3 destroyers and attack an AFK's starbase so you can go up a player level and get a supply unit which you can sell for Astro$ and buy a couple of hundred PP. If you are culture level 5 then you can have 3 planets, you should be making a 2nd colony ship for another planet. Don't let OrSoS get planet 5.
But yeah, colonise as many planets as you can, if you stop doing this, you get left behind and squashed out, like I did, and will have to restart like me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Oct 7 2003, 09:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Oct 7 2003, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whoa whoa nublets, way to much info here for me to reply to.
First off, quatro I'm off to bed, so I cant get on msn. I will be on tomorrow though. Listen to Quatro over me, he introduced me to the game and knows heaps more then I do.
Orsos could be a problem there majian - have you considered an alliance - 50/50 split?
That said, ppl we need to use some serious edit button in this thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. I know sometimes ppl miss what you post, but please do try, it makes it a lot easier to answer when all the info is grouped in one thread. Thanks. I know I havent helped much tonight but I'll try and get around to it tomorrow. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bah, edit is for people who don't have the guts to post twice.
Seems to me Rine01 was playing tonight, Should have got on MSN earlier.
Maybe we should consider starting a 2nd thread Astrowars2
Quatro
**edit** If i edited in everything extra I had to say
**edit** not only would there be a lot of these
**edit** but the actual post would probably be a couple pages in itself.
I checked on that OrSoS guy, he can get a 4th planet and is probably doing so. most likely number 5. He logs in frequently.
Finally but most importantly, he is FRENCH, all the french I have come across in this game have been caniving, manipulative backstabbers, well actually its not just the french, a couple of germans as well. However I was allied with a German which was pretty sweet. Watch your back.
NS community should band together and send him some PP.
I am in a bit of a thinking/needing advice situation.
I am pumping out res like there is no tommorrow etc, but now things cost lost of pp, (minimum of 80 res for a simple research lab) i am getting plenty of science, and culture, well i will keep boosting when possible.
I am going to grab a 6th planet in 10 mins, giving me 1/2 the system that i am in (with my alley).
Now what should i do, expand towards the centre, so i can give pp from my other planets. Or should i go out on the full attack run? Should i save my pp for a while longer and increase production.
I am a lvl 1 player level. So i am eager to do battle. I await ideas <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I am in a bit of a thinking/needing advice situation.
I am pumping out res like there is no tommorrow etc, but now things cost lost of pp, (minimum of 80 res for a simple research lab) i am getting plenty of science, and culture, well i will keep boosting when possible.
I am going to grab a 6th planet in 10 mins, giving me 1/2 the system that i am in (with my alley).
Now what should i do, expand towards the centre, so i can give pp from my other planets. Or should i go out on the full attack run? Should i save my pp for a while longer and increase production.
I am a lvl 1 player level. So i am eager to do battle. I await ideas <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Can't stress this enough, head towards the centre or to a system where you can spend all points.
IF you want to attack, go for it, the planets you take over will arleady have infrastructure, make sure you develop a plan with your ally tho.
Keep upgrading slowly but surely, you will need to eventually to head to where getting supply units is cheaper than gettting the pp for the upgrade however you a quite a way from this.
I wouldn't recommend attacking ( as in full scale war, they ARE expensive with sometimes little return) until all your planets are pumping out at least 120PP total an hour.
Ah its late and I am going to bed, that should be enough for now. Probably need more infromation to give you more detailed advice.
Ok I am going to smoke King cold by sending a group of ships. 4 Destroyers, 1 Colony Ship and 1 Transport Ship. Then I will get his stuff, my other planets will be built and I will attack OrSos before he does me. I don't want him to get too strong so I need to work fast!
Ok, I just got bored with this game, another guy pretty much has the system on deadlock..
However, I'm getting 60PP an hour, so if anyone needs some money lovin, i can send you full of some cash until he takes me out. Should be a while, I have lvl8 starbases <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
sweetness ill gladly take your cash^^ i need it to expand <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Oct 7 2003, 02:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Oct 7 2003, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok, I just got bored with this game, another guy pretty much has the system on deadlock..
However, I'm getting 60PP an hour, so if anyone needs some money lovin, i can send you full of some cash until he takes me out. Should be a while, I have lvl8 starbases <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Your Money may be the only thing to save me from this Orsos guy. If I had the cash I could make a huge fleet of Bedsheets and kill him before he gets any stronger. Look up the page for my info.. its all over the place.
Guys, try ASKING people for help. I found a very nice person called "diskmedel" who is going to help me with my own "bully troubles".
Seriously, ASK PEOPLE, they will probably agree since it means more planets for them <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
wow... you guys have 20 pages on this stuff now? Maybe I should check it out after all <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Question in regards to selling, I went ahead and managed to get 7 supply units from an enemy force consiting of about 80+ destroyers and 2 battleships. So I'm thinking 'cool, big money', time to squash em. I go to trade, and go to sell them. Now I have 0/7 SU's, and an order of -7 SU's. Um, what?
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Either way someone is going to get themselves some exp points <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The Ally button doesnt come in till the next beta, but it is coming. Remember this is like 1.04 - its not the final product.
Well, whether or not you go with maths pretty much depends on the competition. For eediot getting maths isnt smart because the only powerful person around is an ally. But for Gecko, he might have some ppl to worry about, so he will need it.
Small note on precision building - if you want to go up 3 levels dont wait till you have enough for the entire three levels, just only spend when you can get it up at least 1.
The idea is to never have anything half built - you either build it fully, or dont build at all. Do or do not - there should be no halfway. That way, you always have the option to change your mind, and flexibility is good. It really stinks when you have sunk 400pp into a battlecruiser and get a msg saying the nme is coming in 4 hours. You wont be able to finish that battleship, and that 400pp you cant touch, so you cant spend it on a starbase.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is no guarantee the ally functionality is coming in the next beta, or any future beta.
It would appear the community can be half divided in this, as one camp likes to keep there close knit clans and take over their relevant sections of the galaxy, while the other camp like to amass quite a few allies in the vicinity of 10-20 and dominate the galaxy to go on and win the beta.
Near the end of last beta there was a poll for what people wanted most in beta 3. Alliance support won by far, however there is no real added alliance support that has been added. Personally I think the currenty written support is enough, as it encourages allies to be in regular contact, plan and attack. Where the click of a button and you may not have to talk to you allies for the rest of the beta.
However there exists a <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2240&start=45' target='_blank'>Wish list</a> where you can post wishes (or improvements for the game) I would recommend using the forums and playing the game for at least 2 weeks before posting anything here though.
While I am quoting Marine01 on this topic, can I just add to this
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The idea is to never have anything half built - you either build it fully, or dont build at all. Do or do not - there should be no halfway. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is an exception to this, when you have a fledging planet that you can't spend all points at. But you want to build a fleet while keeping the little points that planet has acquired for its own development, this is where you spend it as much as you have. Otherwise it will take forever to get to par with the rest of your civilization.
Regards
Quatro
I don't think you're close to me.. btw marine01 IS keeping track of NS players. First page, first post. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> He edits it every now and then to add more people.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're incorrect.
I am close, relatively speaking, cos I can spend all points there. all I need is level 14 biology (give me a week and a half) and I should be able to takeove....I mean see your system.
Regards
Quatro
You might be surprised... Well, okay, no, you won't be <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> But I will hopefully get Biology first, and you'll be getting a few Destroyers your way... One or two should do the trick. Behold!
look at the glossary [click on the name] and decide what style of play you want to use <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The three best sciences to go for, as recommended by at least two AW "veterans" in beta 2 was
Social.
Energy.
Physics.
In that order. I guess it goes after that to
Biology
Economy - If you start to research this, make sure you are willingly to go the distance to the appropriate x4, x7 or x0 so you enjoy the full benefits of the upgrade.
Mathematics - this has been found to be pretty useless apart form the ATC.
Regards
Quatro
I don't intend to even touch it for a good long while, hehe. Or ever. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Not until I start doing sneaky stuff.
How many planets you got, quatro? Like, how are you coming along? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: Hahahaha... I pity the fool who has to read this thread from the beginning!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
You might be surprised... Well, okay, no, you won't be <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> But I will hopefully get Biology first, and you'll be getting a few Destroyers your way... One or two should do the trick. Behold! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is more incentive for me to expand into your system than there is for you to expand to my system.
I look forward to your destroyers.... I need the experience. They shouldn't be any troubles in dealing with your fleet, with my financial backers <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> allies.
Quatro.
I don't intend to even touch it for a good long while, hehe. Or ever. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Not until I start doing sneaky stuff.
How many planets you got, quatro? Like, how are you coming along? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: Hahahaha... I pity the fool who has to read this thread from the beginning!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have got a grand total of 1 planets, with 1 population. I have only restarted 3 hours ago tho. That is why I have so much time to be posting on this forum.
I have tried to read the thread from the beginnning but have failed.
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Quatro
I will find you and I will steal your planet from your ally, and if you do not conform, I will annhilate you!
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What a nubling.
My cheif ally, is at the centre of the galaxy and you would need a level 26 biology to see him for starters, He has 10 planets and earning almost 300pp an hour.
How many planets do you have eediot, I see you are from Australia too, whereabouts, I am from Brisbane.
Quatro
But i meant whoever you're taking over your system with <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
But, please, let's not get naughty here... We're all friends <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad (12/-45)</b>
<u>ID...........Pop.... Starbase.. Owner </u>
1..............1...............2........KingCold <- AFK
4..............8...............5........Majin
6..............5...............2........OrSoS
7..............8...............5........OrSoS
8..............4...............1........OrSoS
10............1...............2........Josiah_B <-AFK
<u>Free Planets</u>
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 2
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 3 <- My ship will be here in 2 hours
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 5 <- My ship will be there Oct 8
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 9
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 11
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 12
<b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 4 </b>
<u>...............................lvl ........ Progress Remain </u>
Population +9..........8 ..................127
Hydroponic Farm......8 ..................128
Robotic Factory........8 ..................128
Galactic Cybernet.....5 ..................38
Research Lab...........7 ..................86
Starbase..................5 ..................38
<u>...................................lvl Science (+15 per hour) Remain </u>
Biology........................0 ............................................5
Economy.....................5 ............................................22
Energy........................0 .............................................5
Mathematics...............0 .............................................5
Physics.......................3 .............................................12
Social..........................9 ............................................16
Culture.......................5 .............................................55
<b>Culture (+5 per hour) </b>
First off, quatro I'm off to bed, so I cant get on msn. I will be on tomorrow though. Listen to Quatro over me, he introduced me to the game and knows heaps more then I do. However, he isnt quite as diplomatic/tactful, so bear with him.
Orsos could be a problem there majian - have you considered an alliance - 50/50 split?
That said, ppl we need to use some serious edit button in this thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. I know sometimes ppl miss what you post, but please do try, it makes it a lot easier to answer when all the info is grouped in one thread. Thanks. I know I havent helped much tonight but I'll try and get around to it tomorrow.
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad (12/-45)
ID...........Pop.... Starbase.. Owner
1..............1...............2........KingCold <- AFK
4..............8...............5........Majin
6..............5...............2........OrSoS
7..............8...............5........OrSoS
8..............4...............1........OrSoS
10............1...............2........Josiah_B <-AFK
Free Planets
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 2
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 3 <- My ship will be here in 2 hours
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 5 <- My ship will be there Oct 8
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 9
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 11
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 12
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 4
...............................lvl ........ Progress Remain
Population +9..........8 ..................127
Hydroponic Farm......8 ..................128
Robotic Factory........8 ..................128
Galactic Cybernet.....5 ..................38
Research Lab...........7 ..................86
Starbase..................5 ..................38
...................................lvl Science (+15 per hour) Remain
Biology........................0 ............................................5
Economy.....................5 ............................................22
Energy........................0 .............................................5
Mathematics...............0 .............................................5
Physics.......................3 .............................................12
Social..........................9 ............................................16
Culture.......................5 .............................................55
Culture (+5 per hour) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Oct 7 2003, 09:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Oct 7 2003, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Orsos could be a problem there majin - have you considered an alliance - 50/50 split? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't get a hold of him.
So I'm going to protect my self and If I run into alot of trouble I hope that a fellow NS member will come to my system and back me up so I can survive.
But due to the fact I am only 2 days of prgress behind him and equal levels every where else I don't think hes going to try anything until the AFkers are dead.
<b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad (12/-45)</b>
<u>ID...........Pop.... Starbase.. Owner </u>
1..............1...............2........KingCold <- AFK
4..............8...............5........Majin
6..............5...............2........OrSoS
7..............8...............5........OrSoS
8..............4...............1........OrSoS
10............1...............2........Josiah_B <-AFK
<u>Free Planets</u>
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 2
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 3 <- My ship will be here in 2 hours
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 5
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 9
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 11
Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 12
<b>Alpha Al Kalb al Asad 4 </b>
<u>...............................lvl ........ Progress Remain </u>
Population +9..........8 ..................127
Hydroponic Farm......8 ..................128
Robotic Factory........8 ..................128
Galactic Cybernet.....5 ..................38
Research Lab...........7 ..................86
Starbase..................5 ..................38
<u>...................................lvl Science (+15 per hour) Remain </u>
Biology........................0 ............................................5
Economy.....................5 ............................................22
Energy........................0 .............................................5
Mathematics...............0 .............................................5
Physics.......................3 .............................................12
Social..........................9 ............................................16
Culture.......................5 .............................................55
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May I suggest a few things,
Firstly, you have your research labs higher than your cybernets, big no. Remember you also get science from population as well, you want to colonise as many planets as quickly as possible, this is beacuse it is easy to get to a population 8 quickly and level 8 is very cheap.
While I strongly advise colonising planets you can spend all points at, The first 1 or 2 don't really matter cos you need $150 which will take quite a few hours to get with 1-2 planets. So colonise the first two below you then start going and colonising as quickly and as fast as you can, so remember to pump culture.
I also recommend leaving your starbase low, so noobs attack you with a fleet they think that can beat it and you can bump it right up after they launched but before they get there.
I say get 3 destroyers and attack an AFK's starbase so you can go up a player level and get a supply unit which you can sell for Astro$ and buy a couple of hundred PP. If you are culture level 5 then you can have 3 planets, you should be making a 2nd colony ship for another planet. Don't let OrSoS get planet 5.
But yeah, colonise as many planets as you can, if you stop doing this, you get left behind and squashed out, like I did, and will have to restart like me
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Regards
Quatro
First off, quatro I'm off to bed, so I cant get on msn. I will be on tomorrow though. Listen to Quatro over me, he introduced me to the game and knows heaps more then I do.
Orsos could be a problem there majian - have you considered an alliance - 50/50 split?
That said, ppl we need to use some serious edit button in this thread <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. I know sometimes ppl miss what you post, but please do try, it makes it a lot easier to answer when all the info is grouped in one thread. Thanks. I know I havent helped much tonight but I'll try and get around to it tomorrow. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bah, edit is for people who don't have the guts to post twice.
Seems to me Rine01 was playing tonight, Should have got on MSN earlier.
Maybe we should consider starting a 2nd thread Astrowars2
Quatro
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If i edited in everything extra I had to say
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not only would there be a lot of these
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but the actual post would probably be a couple pages in itself.
I checked on that OrSoS guy, he can get a 4th planet and is probably doing so. most likely number 5.
He logs in frequently.
Finally but most importantly, he is FRENCH, all the french I have come across in this game have been caniving, manipulative backstabbers, well actually its not just the french, a couple of germans as well. However I was allied with a German which was pretty sweet. Watch your back.
NS community should band together and send him some PP.
Quatro.
Alpha Shedir 1 7 +9 0 +15
Alpha Shedir 2 3 +4 0 +7
Alpha Shedir 8 8 +9 0 +17
Alpha Shedir 9 8 +9 0 +16
Alpha Shedir 10 10 +9 0 +19
+74
+57 science
+26 culture
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I am in a bit of a thinking/needing advice situation.
I am pumping out res like there is no tommorrow etc, but now things cost lost of pp, (minimum of 80 res for a simple research lab) i am getting plenty of science, and culture, well i will keep boosting when possible.
I am going to grab a 6th planet in 10 mins, giving me 1/2 the system that i am in (with my alley).
Now what should i do, expand towards the centre, so i can give pp from my other planets. Or should i go out on the full attack run? Should i save my pp for a while longer and increase production.
I am a lvl 1 player level. So i am eager to do battle. I await ideas <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Alpha Shedir 1 7 +9 0 +15
Alpha Shedir 2 3 +4 0 +7
Alpha Shedir 8 8 +9 0 +17
Alpha Shedir 9 8 +9 0 +16
Alpha Shedir 10 10 +9 0 +19
+74
+57 science
+26 culture
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I am in a bit of a thinking/needing advice situation.
I am pumping out res like there is no tommorrow etc, but now things cost lost of pp, (minimum of 80 res for a simple research lab) i am getting plenty of science, and culture, well i will keep boosting when possible.
I am going to grab a 6th planet in 10 mins, giving me 1/2 the system that i am in (with my alley).
Now what should i do, expand towards the centre, so i can give pp from my other planets. Or should i go out on the full attack run? Should i save my pp for a while longer and increase production.
I am a lvl 1 player level. So i am eager to do battle. I await ideas <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Can't stress this enough, head towards the centre or to a system where you can spend all points.
IF you want to attack, go for it, the planets you take over will arleady have infrastructure, make sure you develop a plan with your ally tho.
Keep upgrading slowly but surely, you will need to eventually to head to where getting supply units is cheaper than gettting the pp for the upgrade however you a quite a way from this.
I wouldn't recommend attacking ( as in full scale war, they ARE expensive with sometimes little return) until all your planets are pumping out at least 120PP total an hour.
Ah its late and I am going to bed, that should be enough for now. Probably need more infromation to give you more detailed advice.
Quatro
4 Destroyers, 1 Colony Ship and 1 Transport Ship.
Then I will get his stuff, my other planets will be built and I will attack OrSos before he does me.
I don't want him to get too strong so I need to work fast!
No Hes even stronger then he was 4 hours ago... My life is over as soon as he acts, hes 2 days ahead of me and seems to be staying that way!
However, I'm getting 60PP an hour, so if anyone needs some money lovin, i can send you full of some cash until he takes me out. Should be a while, I have lvl8 starbases <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
However, I'm getting 60PP an hour, so if anyone needs some money lovin, i can send you full of some cash until he takes me out. Should be a while, I have lvl8 starbases <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your Money may be the only thing to save me from this Orsos guy.
If I had the cash I could make a huge fleet of Bedsheets and kill him before he gets any stronger.
Look up the page for my info.. its all over the place.
Seriously, ASK PEOPLE, they will probably agree since it means more planets for them <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Science (+54 per hour) Remain
Biology 9 45
Economy 10 281
Energy 9 118
Mathematics 8 124
Physics 11 422
Social 10 237
Culture (+25 per hour)
Culture 9 156
Name Population +/h Production Points +/h
Alpha Mirfak (Her) 2 3 +7 27 +10
Alpha Mirfak (Her) 5 6 +7 21 +13
Alpha Mirfak (Her) 9 9 +6 0 +16
Alpha Mirfak (Her) 10 10 +0 0 +17
Alpha Mirfak (Her) 12 5 +7 16 +11
64 +67
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Anything specific I should work on other than culture?
Maybe I should check it out after all <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I go to trade, and go to sell them. Now I have 0/7 SU's, and an order of -7 SU's. Um, what?