Skyrim!

ZaggyZaggy NullPointerExceptionThe Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
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So this game has made me lose a lot of sleep, the good way that is, how are you guys faring?

Also found "the making off videos on youtube", possible spoilers:

<center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xk1qIjLlXJg"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xk1qIjLlXJg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center><div align='center'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk1qIjLlXJg&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk1qIjLlXJg...feature=related</a></div>
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    Part 2.

    <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yHSSp6gTyls"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yHSSp6gTyls" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center>

    As with above, potentially spoils.
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  • sherpasherpa stopcommandermode Join Date: 2006-11-04 Member: 58338Members
    Undecided! From cdkeyhouse.com I can get a Steam copy for under £20 (I got MW3 for £17) but Oblivion was such a terrible, terrible game I'm hesitant to give Skyrim a try.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Skyrim is also terrible. Don't play it.

    *goes back to playing Skyrim*
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  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    It's not Skyrims fault that your lizard wizard sucked.
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    edited November 2011
    I really shot myself in the foot with my character being a little of everything but in essence a 2hand specialized orc warrior. Battles usually begin with me trying to sneak around with heavy armor and bow, getting as many hits in as I can before they detect me (or my follower who has no regard of remaining undetected as I pincushion my enemies from the dark, even though she goes into sneak mode when I do, charge at them like a dumbarse). Then I whip out my superior elvenwarhammer (found a unique orc 50+, stamina absorbing orc warhammer just now :3) and proceed to beat them as hard as I can until I run out of stamina. At this point I either die, hit my follower by mistake as she is in submission mode (thus killing her perma) or throw off my armor and slip in a totally character breaking wizard robe that gives me 100% faster magicka regen and summon various creatures to my aid as I run around the area jumping over obstacles and going "woop woop" in my computerchair. At the same time I bark various words of "please get away from me and die" in dragontongue. When things start dying down I gulp a couple magicka pots and roll up my sleeves for a dual flamethrower finisher.

    If all else fail I just <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>turn into a werewolf</span> and beat the living ###### out of everyone I can see and <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>feast on their bodies to further keep up my rage</span> all while getting nothing for it in skillpoints.

    P.S. The finisher move is really retarded. I've been instant killed by an orc when at full health while his previous powerattacks attacks only took like 1/3 of my hp. It seems awfully random and I rarely get crits that allows me to take a tough half hp left enemy with a single blow.
    I also have like, 12 dragonbones waiting for me to grind up my blacksmith skill to 90 :/
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I once killed a bandit archer in a single attack by smashing his face in with my mace. That was a strange moment...

    Anyway, I had to start over because my character became unplayable. I tried to play a lizard wizard but with a bit of sneaking thrown in there as well. So my standard approach was to sneak (sneak) my way in there to try and backstab (one-handed weapons) someone in the hopes of killing them so I could reanimate them (conjuration) to have an ally in the coming fight where I'd mainly use the Firebolt and Flames spells (destruction) and heal myself (restoration) when necessary while using shield spells (alteration) to protect myself. Outside of combat I made a lot of potions (alchemy) mainly to sell for money (they were poor in quality anyway), I also made rings (blacksmithing) to enchant (enchanting) in hopes of getting something useful out of that eventually, and I sold huge amounts of loot (speech) to amass lots of wealth, much of which I got from various locked chests (lockpicking).

    End result? I was spread across eleven skills, several of which contributed marginally or not at all to my combat ability, and suddenly I was at level 20 and no skill except sneaking had even reached 50. Suddenly bandits (not to mention draugr) had more health than I could drain before my magicka ran out, which got really interesting when I faced entire groups of them. I simply gave up - the game assumes that a level 20 character should be able to handle things that I just couldn't handle, and every fight was a struggle to survive and was no fun.

    So now I've re-rolled and I'm keeping my focus narrow - to boring, practical things like one-hand, heavy armour, blocking, archery, and restoration. Maybe some smithing. And I won't be able to avoid leveling speech and lockpicking, although I wish I could increase those skills without them increasing my level.

    Bethesda's intention with completely removing skill selections was to let people dabble more, but I think it has had the opposite effect. Now you have to consider whether you can AFFORD to dabble in that skill, because if it's going to increase your level without increasing your combat abilities you simply risk that the enemies outpace you and suddenly you have to struggle just to catch up, if that's even still possible.
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    You can also change the difficulty on the fly to make things more appropriate to your non-combat dabbling. I've actually increased the difficulty since I started but it has certainly become a lot harder. I just need to force myself to use all the pots I have acquired, they can really turn a battle around. Poison on every arrow, paralysis when close, drain magicka from wizards, buff hp/sta/mag etc. Oh and never forget racial abilities, my orc berserk thingy is a godsend in hard battles.
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    same problem as lolfighter here, and im just level19. suddenly there are enemies almost impossible to kill, they hurt alot and take almost no damage from my magic and weapons, and im always low on health potions . it makes me rage , and when i snap i just turn into a werewolf and tear them apart. but even then there are enemies which have bull###### one hit weapons/magic, so i keep running around like crazy, trying not to stop, pouncing people and ripping out throats, spilling their guts , feeding on them, one after another as fast as possible.
    so.... ###### awesom


    and then some random bull###### arrow hits me again right in the face, killing me with full health,
    or some ice spike from behind, right up my butt, wth

    still awesome
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    The 3rd making of video was awesome. I loved the choir.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    I think TES games are permanently relegated to "Wait for a steam sale" for me. I mean, I just picked up Oblivion because, you know, for $5 it's probably worth it.

    I think my main problem is that they just can't bring back the wonderful feeling of playing morocrack for the first time....
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Hmmm... now you guys have me paranoid :p

    My poor character is only level 14 but she's spread across 9 or more skills as I've just kinda been trying everything that comes to hand in little bits and pieces. Most of the time her bow is serviceable but sometimes I'll come across an enemy that makes me feel like I'm firing foam darts :o

    Gah... After reading all this I'm pondering whether to start again with a more focussed character, now that I have a rough idea how various stuff feels XD
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  • PaniggPanigg Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58212Members
    I always hated that about elder scrolls ganes....

    Why do sewer rats suddenly become wererats just because I levelled up?

    Ah well.. nevermind. I've been playing too many old school games (megaman X etc.) and am kinda missing the challenge in all those new games... yeah I know exploring stuff is pretty awesome in Skyrim... but at the end of the day it's not how good you can control you char, but how you've planned him and his numbers vs. the enemy numbers and/or abuse AI/pathing....

    I think I'm just getting old. :(
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Heh, funny you should mention AI abuse because I've killed 6 dragons so far without taking much damage just by hiding behind a tree :3
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  • PaniggPanigg Join Date: 2006-11-02 Member: 58212Members
    That is what I loathe about t hose games... I know programming AI is hard, but come on... just give them some unfair abilities to prevent you from doing that stuff or something....


    Wouldn't that be neat.... instead of simply making enemies stronger by giving them + levels, they would keep their level but just be cleverer.... by working as a team, using their weapons/spells more effectively/differently/ambushes....

    Honestly... it sucks that AI programming is the hardest thing about games.
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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1885253:date=Nov 17 2011, 08:40 AM:name=Geminosity)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geminosity @ Nov 17 2011, 08:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885253"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Heh, funny you should mention AI abuse because I've killed 6 dragons so far without taking much damage just by hiding behind a tree :3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yeah.. like.. i run away from a couple of cave bears, bump into a giant killing a mammoth just when the shadow of a dragon flying right above you appears, dragon lands, attacks everyone, i just keep running, a wild sabrecat thing appears, and wants to play with the cool kids as well ignores me totally, i just stand there watching them fight each other. suddenly mammoth stands on dragons back attacking it from above, dragon takes off, mammoth still riding it, flying some circles, it was out of sight for a moment when suddenly a mammoth falls from the sky


    this

    and nothing to record hilarious crap like that
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    edited November 2011
    I've never really been into this whole subset of games, but after watching my flatmate play oblivion (I would watch as if it were a movie, more in it for the story than the gameplay) and a bit of skyrim I think I might partake


    I imagine I would emphasis heavy armor, one arm weapons, magic (destruction / revitalization). Smithing is something I find cool cause you can improve stuff you find, it's about the only other thing I would sink lvl points into. The goal I guess is to walk around in full Daedric and or Dragon armor.



    my character name is going to be the space symbol

    [edit]
    oh yeah and at least a lvl of speechcraft, I figure 10% of prices and +10% for selling prices thought the game would eventually add up
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    edited November 2011
    I think it's a pretty awesome game... finding myself playing it nonstop.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> I've basically said 'eff you' to the main story line and have been doing whatever I want. Right now im in mage school doing those quests... next I'm thinking about joining the dark brotherhood (assassin guild) or maybe those mercenaries in Whatever-hold. I'm honestly not even sure what the main story line is.. probably killing those dragons... the side quests are so in depth.</span>
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    You'll find doing all the side quests before the main story line can be a bit problematic, as the main story line opens up more sidequests, although you'll find the main quest dungeons a fair bit easier than they should be.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1885314:date=Nov 17 2011, 06:22 AM:name=SentrySteve)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SentrySteve @ Nov 17 2011, 06:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885314"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think it's a pretty awesome game... finding myself playing it nonstop.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> I've basically said 'eff you' to the main story line and have been doing whatever I want. Right now im in mage school doing those quests... next I'm thinking about joining the dark brotherhood (assassin guild) or maybe those mercenaries in Whatever-hold. I'm honestly not even sure what the main story line is.. probably killing those dragons... the side quests are so in depth.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is how you are supposed to play TES games.

    Wander around doing whatever you damn well please. Exploring, joining guilds, finding cool stuff, finding all the amusing stuff laying around, etc etc etc.
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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    edited November 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1885326:date=Nov 17 2011, 01:38 PM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Nov 17 2011, 01:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885326"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You'll find doing all the side quests before the main story line can be a bit problematic, as the main story line opens up more sidequests, although you'll find the main quest dungeons a fair bit easier than they should be.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Indeed, I did just that, sidequesting before main quest.
    Ended up knowing a lot of shouts but not being able to use them because I hadn't killed a single dragon.

    If you level up non combat skill before combat skills you'll end up for example being an awesome smith with brilliant armor and weapons but doing little damage because of the lack of skills with weapons.
    Not only that but you end up being high level with low combat skills, so creatures will be high level WITH high level combat skills. Ruh-oh.

    Shouts are rather awesome I say:
    <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MqEpKQb9euI"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MqEpKQb9euI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center><div align='center'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEpKQb9euI#t=04s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEpKQb9euI#t=04s</a></div>

    Edit:
    Creature interaction can get quite interesting:
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/YU34q.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
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  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hands down, Skyrim is the best RPG since Morrowind.

    After the lackluster Oblivion and Fallout 3, my hopes for Skyrim was dim. But not anymore alright.
    It is exactly like playing Mw again, only 10 times better and immersive.
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    I HAVENT SEEN A DRAGON PICK A NPC UP AND RELEASE IT IN SKY YET.

    This infuriates me and shows they are doing a oblivion again with preview videos.
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  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    Anyone having problems with save games being over written? :X
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1885348:date=Nov 17 2011, 04:26 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Svenpa @ Nov 17 2011, 04:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885348"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I HAVENT SEEN A DRAGON PICK A NPC UP AND RELEASE IT IN SKY YET.

    This infuriates me and shows they are doing a oblivion again with preview videos.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I've had it bite a guy and fling him around, and shot one down so it crash lands in a big trench, but not seen it pick things up when it swoops.

    But then I am also kinds glad as that looked reallly bad in the preview video.
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  • Chris0132Chris0132 Join Date: 2009-07-25 Member: 68262Members
    edited November 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1885341:date=Nov 17 2011, 02:43 PM:name=Zaggy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zaggy @ Nov 17 2011, 02:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885341"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Shouts are rather awesome I say:
    <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MqEpKQb9euI"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MqEpKQb9euI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center><div align='center'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEpKQb9euI#t=04s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEpKQb9euI#t=04s</a></div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I really rather hope FUS RO DAH becomes a meme, I want to see the photoshops it produces, also I like the idea of solving all problems by yelling at them so hard they fall over.
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  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    It has. They're releasing a t-shirt of it.
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    no one has any advice????

    I was gonna do a little bit of main, but mostly WHATEVA I WANT

    ¬_¬
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  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1885199:date=Nov 16 2011, 04:29 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Nov 16 2011, 04:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885199"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->a lizard wizard<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Superb.
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  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    Anyone else whom usually sheath your weapons as you enter unknown camps and forts because you see normal people doing nothing in particular and as soon as you get close enough everyone drops whatever they are doing and proceeds to try and make you dead? I don't want an imperial bounty just because I accidentally sneak attacked someone crafting stuff :(

    The worst thing with a bounty isn't paying it off with blood or gold, it's that they ALWAYS take all your stolen ###### as well. Stupid guards and their item hivemind. I don't suppose they only take stolen stuff which was taken within their own area? It's global right?
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1885373:date=Nov 17 2011, 08:16 PM:name=That_Annoying_Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (That_Annoying_Kid @ Nov 17 2011, 08:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1885373"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->no one has any advice????

    I was gonna do a little bit of main, but mostly WHATEVA I DO WHAT I WANT

    ¬_¬<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fixed that for you
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