I still like the idea of having a "marine" name for them and a "biologist" name for them which would be different, and of course the biologist name would still be Nymphs.
<!--quoteo(post=1700774:date=Feb 18 2009, 04:59 PM:name=Cxwf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cxwf @ Feb 18 2009, 04:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700774"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->+1 for Spooks! Or haunts or ghosts works too.
I still like the idea of having a "marine" name for them and a "biologist" name for them which would be different, and of course the biologist name would still be Nymphs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Surely the "marine" name for them would be snot rocket <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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<!--quoteo(post=1700782:date=Feb 18 2009, 12:56 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Feb 18 2009, 12:56 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700782"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Doesn't sound like something the average marine would think of when seeing one...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Marine 1: Ahh Pyrades!!! Marine 2: Gesundheit
<!--quoteo(post=1700731:date=Feb 18 2009, 11:30 AM:name=Katana-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Katana- @ Feb 18 2009, 11:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700731"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought spook would be good after Flayra said they would be floating around the map scouting. I actually like huant better, butI can imagine marines seeing them, and knowing that they were spying on them, aiming for them and shooting them, calling out "Damn huants, giving away our position" etc. They would float around ghostly like and be a foreboding sign of more deadly aliens to come.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Are you trying to say HAUNT? Three times in a row, couldn't possibly have been a typo.
Nymphs, hands down. It feels nice to have a real term in this game which actually stands for exactly the right thing here, this creature <i>is </i>a Nymph of some sort. The actual term that will be used can as always be done by the players themselves. Very much like what this thread is doing already, setting a name for it isn't that easy. Boomers, Smokers, Tanks and Witches... Glowies. It's not like it's wrong to say "Glowies" in my book, it's just a very quick generalization of the creature and I feel like it's what I'd use in favor of a more complex name to something that is most likely just a cosmetical touch to the game.
It's all in how the word is used, so that particular train of thought is pointless. "Spook" is perfectly acceptable if it otherwise fits the NS universe.
a photophore is a light-emitting organ found on various marine animals. which kind of fits in with these glowy creatures. and a photocyte is a cell that is a cell that creates the light within the organ. so there is kind of a relevence with these names.
Phengodes are a type of gloworm beetle, which I also think is another fitting name.
phosphor is another fitting name. I think this is a good name due to the phosphorus nature of the creature.
I also like the name Plasmids. it reminds me of plasma which is also a glowing substance. but it has somthing to do with DNA and is used in the game bioshock already.
In the end I think something you should keep in mind is that the aliens aren't going to have a name for them at all, the marines will. Why would the aliens care what the name is. The marines on the other hand need some name to identify them to other marines, so it should be something that is very apparent and obvious sounding, as if a marine turned a corner, saw them for the first time and called them the first thing that came into his head.
<!--quoteo(post=1702110:date=Mar 6 2009, 09:45 AM:name=steppin'razor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(steppin'razor @ Mar 6 2009, 09:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1702110"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->in the end, the name isn't that important. if it was a new alien playable life form, I probably would care more.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> As I understand it, it's going to be controllable by the Alien Commander, so I'd say having a name for it is pretty important.
I think that there should be two names, one that biologists call them (you would see this name on readouts and flyers, etc) and one that the marines use as slang. (do marines automatically make small talk if you just let them idle? that would be neat.)
I am in favor for nymph for the first name and haunt, spook, or glowie for the second.
why would you need two names? from what i understand, the real kharaa are micro-organisms, and the visible kharaa (skulk, onos etc.) are multi-celled constructs of those micro-organisms. why would there really be a biological name for each individual 'lifeform', and when would we ever hear/read it?
i'm going to lean towards the opinion that TSA marines aren't dumb as boards, and have been educated in basic biology, among other things. nymph is perfectly valid.
in game ill probably call it "get that glowin fecker" or " Floatin fecker"
on a more serous not i thought
Moth : floats round attracked to light, very irritating
Glow grub: already been mentioned but i like it.
Flarefly: its a floating light, and its a scout, fly on the wall?
i personally prefer the term flare, its got a more military fee than glow. So just stick flare in front of another word
flareworm flaregnat flaregrub etc flare aphid I expect in game ppl will shorten the name to just the second word, but it wold be a descriptive name initially.
actually you could just call them flares, since its a commond fps term and thats effectivly what they will be for the alien comm, flares he controls. For people evlolving out of them it doesnt matter so much what they are called
<!--quoteo(post=1700777:date=Feb 18 2009, 05:18 PM:name=PaladinDude)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PaladinDude @ Feb 18 2009, 05:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700777"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Surely the "marine" name for them would be snot rocket <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1701170:date=Feb 23 2009, 03:30 AM:name=GaussWaffle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GaussWaffle @ Feb 23 2009, 03:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701170"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To quell the mystery of spook being derrogatory or not, here's what urban dictionary has to say about it<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yeah, it says used by 70-year-old men. If it's an outgoing slang term that most of the playerbase won't have even heard of or take offense at, I don't see the harm in using it. Besides, it's not like the glowies have minstrel facepaint or anything, if the word primarily means other things and has no obvious connection to this other, rarely used meaning, there's nothing to infer a racial slur any more than there is to infer the glowie is a US government agent.
<i>Glowie</i> (plosive-to-sonorant followed by 2 strong, open vowels connected via a voiced approximant) and <i>Spook</i> (plosive followed by prominent vowel sound followed by fricative) are more audible over the mic than the muffled gasp of <i>Nymph</i>, which uses a fairly low-key combination of phonemes.
If you're going for usability, the audio-recognition of the first two are much better. If you just want to please a bunch of Scientists, choose <i>Nymph</i>.
<!--quoteo(post=1702512:date=Mar 11 2009, 08:54 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Mar 11 2009, 08:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1702512"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, it says used by 70-year-old men. If it's an outgoing slang term that most of the playerbase won't have even heard of or take offense at, I don't see the harm in using it. Besides, it's not like the glowies have minstrel facepaint or anything, if the word primarily means other things and has no obvious connection to this other, rarely used meaning, there's nothing to infer a racial slur any more than there is to infer the glowie is a US government agent.
<i>Glowie</i> (plosive-to-sonorant followed by 2 strong, open vowels connected via a voiced approximant) and <i>Spook</i> (plosive followed by prominent vowel sound followed by fricative) are more audible over the mic than the muffled gasp of <i>Nymph</i>, which uses a fairly low-key combination of phonemes.
If you're going for usability, the audio-recognition of the first two are much better. If you just want to please a bunch of Scientists, choose <i>Nymph</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All I was trying to get at was that when I saw the word Spook, I immediately had the racist type of spook in my head. Reading To Kill a Mockingbird/Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn/ any literature from pre 1960s south may do that ;p
At any rate, the actual likelyhood of Spook being used over Nymph is about 1000:1, of which that is Flayra gets killed by trampling onoses
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I still like the idea of having a "marine" name for them and a "biologist" name for them which would be different, and of course the biologist name would still be Nymphs.
I still like the idea of having a "marine" name for them and a "biologist" name for them which would be different, and of course the biologist name would still be Nymphs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Surely the "marine" name for them would be snot rocket <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
Marine 1: Ahh Pyrades!!!
Marine 2: Gesundheit
Are you trying to say HAUNT? Three times in a row, couldn't possibly have been a typo.
It feels nice to have a real term in this game which actually stands for exactly the right thing here, this creature <i>is </i>a Nymph of some sort.
The actual term that will be used can as always be done by the players themselves.
Very much like what this thread is doing already, setting a name for it isn't that easy.
Boomers, Smokers, Tanks and Witches... Glowies. It's not like it's wrong to say "Glowies" in my book, it's just a very quick generalization of the creature and I feel like it's what I'd use in favor of a more complex name to something that is most likely just a cosmetical touch to the game.
<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spook" target="_blank">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spook</a>
They remind me of those spirits from some planet that invades earth in that final fantasy film.. cant remember what they're called there but yah.
Edit: uhm ok they were called phantoms, that doesn't really fit. But they do look like spirits...
apart from the rather negative connotations of a man in a skin-tight purple suit.
no... no..... let's be optimistic. ns can <b>redefine</b> phantom, and blow all those negative connotations away.
Less syllables = better.
Simpler = better.
Here is what i have come up with.
photophores
photocytes
Phengodes
phosphors
Plasmids
a photophore is a light-emitting organ found on various marine animals. which kind of fits in with these glowy creatures. and a photocyte is a cell that is a cell that creates the light within the organ. so there is kind of a relevence with these names.
Phengodes are a type of gloworm beetle, which I also think is another fitting name.
phosphor is another fitting name. I think this is a good name due to the phosphorus nature of the creature.
I also like the name Plasmids. it reminds me of plasma which is also a glowing substance. but it has somthing to do with DNA and is used in the game bioshock already.
For me, I think it would be fireflies.
As I understand it, it's going to be controllable by the Alien Commander, so I'd say having a name for it is pretty important.
I am in favor for nymph for the first name and haunt, spook, or glowie for the second.
i'm going to lean towards the opinion that TSA marines aren't dumb as boards, and have been educated in basic biology, among other things. nymph is perfectly valid.
on a more serous not i thought
Moth : floats round attracked to light, very irritating
Glow grub: already been mentioned but i like it.
Flarefly: its a floating light, and its a scout, fly on the wall?
i personally prefer the term flare, its got a more military fee than glow. So just stick flare in front of another word
flareworm
flaregnat
flaregrub etc
flare aphid
I expect in game ppl will shorten the name to just the second word, but it wold be a descriptive name initially.
actually you could just call them flares, since its a commond fps term and thats effectivly what they will be for the alien comm, flares he controls. For people evlolving out of them it doesnt matter so much what they are called
<!--quoteo(post=1701170:date=Feb 23 2009, 03:30 AM:name=GaussWaffle)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GaussWaffle @ Feb 23 2009, 03:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1701170"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To quell the mystery of spook being derrogatory or not, here's what urban dictionary has to say about it<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yeah, it says used by 70-year-old men. If it's an outgoing slang term that most of the playerbase won't have even heard of or take offense at, I don't see the harm in using it. Besides, it's not like the glowies have minstrel facepaint or anything, if the word primarily means other things and has no obvious connection to this other, rarely used meaning, there's nothing to infer a racial slur any more than there is to infer the glowie is a US government agent.
<i>Glowie</i> (plosive-to-sonorant followed by 2 strong, open vowels connected via a voiced approximant) and <i>Spook</i> (plosive followed by prominent vowel sound followed by fricative) are more audible over the mic than the muffled gasp of <i>Nymph</i>, which uses a fairly low-key combination of phonemes.
If you're going for usability, the audio-recognition of the first two are much better. If you just want to please a bunch of Scientists, choose <i>Nymph</i>.
<i>Glowie</i> (plosive-to-sonorant followed by 2 strong, open vowels connected via a voiced approximant) and <i>Spook</i> (plosive followed by prominent vowel sound followed by fricative) are more audible over the mic than the muffled gasp of <i>Nymph</i>, which uses a fairly low-key combination of phonemes.
If you're going for usability, the audio-recognition of the first two are much better. If you just want to please a bunch of Scientists, choose <i>Nymph</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All I was trying to get at was that when I saw the word Spook, I immediately had the racist type of spook in my head. Reading To Kill a Mockingbird/Tom Sawyer/Huckleberry Finn/ any literature from pre 1960s south may do that ;p
At any rate, the actual likelyhood of Spook being used over Nymph is about 1000:1, of which that is Flayra gets killed by trampling onoses