ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
edited February 2009
AY <-- Not a word BY <-- Fine CRY <--Fine DRY <--Fine FLY <--Fine FRY <--Fine FYRD <-- Not a word GYPSY <--Fine GYVE <-- Not a word HYMN <--Fine HYP <-- Not a word LYMPH <--Fine LYNCH <--Fine LYNX <--Fine MYTH <--Fine MY <--Fine PLY <--Fine PYGMY <-- Not a word PYX <-- Not a word RHYTHM <--Fine SHY <--Fine SHYLY <--Fine SKY <--Fine SPRY <--Fine SPY <--Fine STY <--Fine STYX <-- Not a word SYLPH <--Fine SYZYGY <-- Not a word THYMY <-- Not a word TRY <--Fine TRYST <--Fine WRY <--Fine WYND <-- Not a word (note, not a word == not an English word, or so friken uncommon that it still doesn't count)
That many. I have no issue with words that use Y. Ember Does NOT. Thus EXCESSIVE use of "y"s (it implies that there is an acceptable use also).
My friend mentioned Nimbus, and I like it my self. It has an SF feel to it, and it is descriptive.
For the record I think embyr is pretty cool, because embers glow and embryos hatch into things.
BUT
In what situation will anyone possibly be talking about glowies/nymphs in-game? They're part of the furniture as far as I can tell. I doubt marines can kill them, otherwise the aliens wont be able to respawn.
If you can't kill it and it can't kill you, people aren't going to be shouting about them constantly, so what difference does the name make?
<!--QuoteBegin-Thansal+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->stuff<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> PYGMY isn't a word? wtf? and STYX is a very well known word, it's the name of one of the rivers in the underworld in greek mythology.
Also, "nimbus"? When I think Nimbus I think Dragonball Z, or a cloud, or both.
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What about a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporeling" target="_blank">sporeling</a>? It rolls off the tongue and is generally suggestive of what they are I think, slightly more developed spores.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
edited February 2009
<!--quoteo(post=1700093:date=Feb 11 2009, 10:16 PM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harimau @ Feb 11 2009, 10:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700093"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->PYGMY isn't a word? wtf? and STYX is a very well known word, it's the name of one of the rivers in the underworld in greek mythology.
Also, "nimbus"? When I think Nimbus I think Dragonball Z, or a cloud, or both.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pygmy I missed, and I will give you Styx, I was thinking of the band as The River Styx is never called anything BUT The River Styx.
Again, my point still stands. There are acceptable uses of the letter Y. Sticking it in random words where it doesn't belong? Not one of them.
As for the Nimbus thing. Well, I don't watch DBZ, and I am not a meteorologist, thus the only time I associate nimbus with clouds is when looking at one with a glow around it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
I was thinking of sporelings, which made me think of spores (because shorter=better), which made me think that "spore" doesn't really fit something that glows, which made me think of other things that float in the air but also glow, which made me think of dust motes that float in front of a sunlit window. (or is it mites?)
locallyunsceneFeeder of TrollsJoin Date: 2002-12-25Member: 11528Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1700162:date=Feb 12 2009, 04:03 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Align @ Feb 12 2009, 04:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700162"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How about "Motes"?
I was thinking of sporelings, which made me think of spores (because shorter=better), which made me think that "spore" doesn't really fit something that glows, which made me think of other things that float in the air but also glow, which made me think of dust motes that float in front of a sunlit window. (or is it mites?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Both are real words. I kind of like "mite" better though. Sounds more "kharaa-ish"(that's not a real word).
There's a couple of decent suggestions in here, but I most like the idea that Marines and TSA Scientists would probably have two different names for the things. The "official" name given by the TSA biologists could easily stay as "Nymphs", while the colloquial marine name could be something simpler like "Embyr" or even "glowies". The game documentation would then reference both names, while the engine filenames would probably use the Biologist's Nymphs name.
In biology, a nymph is the immature form of some insects, which undergoes incomplete metamorphosis (hemimetabolism) before reaching its adult stage; unlike a typical larva, a nymph's overall form already resembles that of the adult. ...
<!--quoteo(post=1700122:date=Feb 12 2009, 07:39 PM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Feb 12 2009, 07:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700122"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Again, my point still stands. There are acceptable uses of the letter Y. Sticking it in random words where it doesn't belong? Not one of them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> No, I agree. Well, to an extent. In certain contexts it's still acceptable, like A Song of Ice and Fire, for example. In most other contexts, no - Embyr, for example. Embyr is not 'hard' to say, per se, it's simply 'uncomfortable' or 'unnatural'; it doesn't matter that you say it's meant to be pronounced 'ember' it doesn't stop people from trying to pronounce it 'embee-r' or something. I think you'll notice also, that Skulk, Lerk, Fade, Gorge, Onos are, within the context of the game, essentially *nicknames* used by the marines, not *actual names*, and in general nicknames are easy to sound out, and spelled how they are sounded. On an unrelated note, Embyr is still no good because it really doesn't describe the 'glowies' very well.
Tl;dr version: Embyr sucks.
<!--quoteo(post=1700165:date=Feb 13 2009, 05:20 AM:name=Cxwf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cxwf @ Feb 13 2009, 05:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700165"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The "official" name given by the TSA biologists could easily stay as "Nymphs", while the colloquial marine name could be <b>something simpler like "Embyr"</b> or even "glowies".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wait, <b>what?</b>
Also, I would still not consider Nymph an 'official name', based on the 'nickname' reasoning above. Codename, yes; but that's really just another kind of nickname.
In retrospect, Nymph is actually a pretty decent name, but it depends on your education. Does the average TSA Marine know that in biology, a nymph is the immature form of some insects, which undergoes incomplete metamorphosis (hemimetabolism) before reaching its adult stage; and that unlike a typical larva, a nymph's overall form already resembles that of the adult? - Does the average gamer know this? (ie. what sort of image does the name conjure for them when first heard?)
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It begs to question, in which context will the player see the name of the "nymphs"?
To be consistent with the kharaa naming terminology, it would have a name leaning up to it's visual appearance and/or special abilities/functions. Think harder.
Larvae: too many connotations to starcraft's zerg Nymphs: Sure it makes sense in a technical way, but the average player won't get why. Aesthetically, it's okay and is a reasonable fit.
I have a couple of suggestions: Antecedents (An antecedent is a preceding event, <b>condition</b>, cause, phrase, or word), ominous name, self-explanatory, might break the consistency in the kharaan naming scheme.
Nucleuses: they have a strikingly visual similiarity and they both represent something "corish"
As all NS alien names are abstractly named for what they do, I think the 'nymph' should definitely not be named by a scientific name or term. Rather give it an abstract name for what it does. If it floats and glows, then I think Ember would be fine. If it sits stationary at a certain point of the hive, name it a Candle or Flame or something. If it shoots around the hive like Casper, name it a Ghost.
But whatever it looks like or does (can you shoot it?), just name it what a marine would call it if he was walking by and saw one.
locallyunsceneFeeder of TrollsJoin Date: 2002-12-25Member: 11528Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1700247:date=Feb 13 2009, 05:03 PM:name=MasterPTG)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MasterPTG @ Feb 13 2009, 05:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700247"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As all NS alien names are abstractly named for what they do, I think the 'nymph' should definitely not be named by a scientific name or term. Rather give it an abstract name for what it does. If it floats and glows, then I think Ember would be fine. If it sits stationary at a certain point of the hive, name it a Candle or Flame or something. If it shoots around the hive like Casper, name it a Ghost.
But whatever it looks like or does (can you shoot it?), just name it what a marine would call it if he was walking by and saw one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ghost is a thought. If wisp didn't have fantasy connotations I'd suggest that.
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BY
CRY
DRY
FLY
FRY
FYRD
GYPSY
GYVE
HYMN
HYP
LYMPH
LYNCH
LYNX
MYTH
MY
PLY
PYGMY
PYX
RHYTHM
SHY
SHYLY
SKY
SPRY
SPY
STY
STYX
SYLPH
SYZYGY
THYMY
TRY
TRYST
WRY
WYND
How many of these are excessive?
BY <-- Fine
CRY <--Fine
DRY <--Fine
FLY <--Fine
FRY <--Fine
FYRD <-- Not a word
GYPSY <--Fine
GYVE <-- Not a word
HYMN <--Fine
HYP <-- Not a word
LYMPH <--Fine
LYNCH <--Fine
LYNX <--Fine
MYTH <--Fine
MY <--Fine
PLY <--Fine
PYGMY <-- Not a word
PYX <-- Not a word
RHYTHM <--Fine
SHY <--Fine
SHYLY <--Fine
SKY <--Fine
SPRY <--Fine
SPY <--Fine
STY <--Fine
STYX <-- Not a word
SYLPH <--Fine
SYZYGY <-- Not a word
THYMY <-- Not a word
TRY <--Fine
TRYST <--Fine
WRY <--Fine
WYND <-- Not a word
(note, not a word == not an English word, or so friken uncommon that it still doesn't count)
That many. I have no issue with words that use Y. Ember Does NOT. Thus EXCESSIVE use of "y"s (it implies that there is an acceptable use also).
My friend mentioned Nimbus, and I like it my self. It has an SF feel to it, and it is descriptive.
BUT
In what situation will anyone possibly be talking about glowies/nymphs in-game? They're part of the furniture as far as I can tell. I doubt marines can kill them, otherwise the aliens wont be able to respawn.
If you can't kill it and it can't kill you, people aren't going to be shouting about them constantly, so what difference does the name make?
PYGMY isn't a word? wtf?
and STYX is a very well known word, it's the name of one of the rivers in the underworld in greek mythology.
Also, "nimbus"? When I think Nimbus I think Dragonball Z, or a cloud, or both.
and STYX is a very well known word, it's the name of one of the rivers in the underworld in greek mythology.
Also, "nimbus"? When I think Nimbus I think Dragonball Z, or a cloud, or both.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pygmy I missed, and I will give you Styx, I was thinking of the band as The River Styx is never called anything BUT The River Styx.
Again, my point still stands. There are acceptable uses of the letter Y. Sticking it in random words where it doesn't belong? Not one of them.
As for the Nimbus thing. Well, I don't watch DBZ, and I am not a meteorologist, thus the only time I associate nimbus with clouds is when looking at one with a glow around it <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
BY
CRY
DRY
FLY
FRY
FYRD
GYPSY
GYVE
HYMN
HYP
LYMPH
LYNCH
LYNX
MYTH
MY
PLY
PYGMY
PYX
RHYTHM
SHY
SHYLY
SKY
SPRY
SPY
STY
STYX
SYLPH
SYZYGY
THYMY
TRY
TRYST
WRY
WYND
How many of these are excessive?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Meh, I'm not really into pokemon.
Both two syllables, both words that are non-nonsensical, and both are based on an actual word (or phrase).
"ember" is no harder to say than "oh noes" .. The only reason people are so okay with onos is because you have become so accustomed to it.
We could go all web 2.0 and call them Embrs.
I was thinking of sporelings, which made me think of spores (because shorter=better), which made me think that "spore" doesn't really fit something that glows, which made me think of other things that float in the air but also glow, which made me think of dust motes that float in front of a sunlit window.
(or is it mites?)
I was thinking of sporelings, which made me think of spores (because shorter=better), which made me think that "spore" doesn't really fit something that glows, which made me think of other things that float in the air but also glow, which made me think of dust motes that float in front of a sunlit window.
(or is it mites?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Both are real words. I kind of like "mite" better though. Sounds more "kharaa-ish"(that's not a real word).
There's a couple of decent suggestions in here, but I most like the idea that Marines and TSA Scientists would probably have two different names for the things. The "official" name given by the TSA biologists could easily stay as "Nymphs", while the colloquial marine name could be something simpler like "Embyr" or even "glowies". The game documentation would then reference both names, while the engine filenames would probably use the Biologist's Nymphs name.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymph_(biology)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymph_(biology)</a>
No, I agree. Well, to an extent. In certain contexts it's still acceptable, like A Song of Ice and Fire, for example. In most other contexts, no - Embyr, for example. Embyr is not 'hard' to say, per se, it's simply 'uncomfortable' or 'unnatural'; it doesn't matter that you say it's meant to be pronounced 'ember' it doesn't stop people from trying to pronounce it 'embee-r' or something. I think you'll notice also, that Skulk, Lerk, Fade, Gorge, Onos are, within the context of the game, essentially *nicknames* used by the marines, not *actual names*, and in general nicknames are easy to sound out, and spelled how they are sounded.
On an unrelated note, Embyr is still no good because it really doesn't describe the 'glowies' very well.
Tl;dr version: Embyr sucks.
<!--quoteo(post=1700165:date=Feb 13 2009, 05:20 AM:name=Cxwf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cxwf @ Feb 13 2009, 05:20 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1700165"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The "official" name given by the TSA biologists could easily stay as "Nymphs", while the colloquial marine name could be <b>something simpler like "Embyr"</b> or even "glowies".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wait, <b>what?</b>
Also, I would still not consider Nymph an 'official name', based on the 'nickname' reasoning above. Codename, yes; but that's really just another kind of nickname.
In retrospect, Nymph is actually a pretty decent name, but it depends on your education. Does the average TSA Marine know that in biology, a nymph is the immature form of some insects, which undergoes incomplete metamorphosis (hemimetabolism) before reaching its adult stage; and that unlike a typical larva, a nymph's overall form already resembles that of the adult? - Does the average gamer know this? (ie. what sort of image does the name conjure for them when first heard?)
To be consistent with the kharaa naming terminology, it would have a name leaning up to it's visual appearance and/or special abilities/functions. Think harder.
Larvae: too many connotations to starcraft's zerg
Nymphs: Sure it makes sense in a technical way, but the average player won't get why. Aesthetically, it's okay and is a reasonable fit.
I have a couple of suggestions:
Antecedents (An antecedent is a preceding event, <b>condition</b>, cause, phrase, or word), ominous name, self-explanatory, might break the consistency in the kharaan naming scheme.
Nucleuses: they have a strikingly visual similiarity and they both represent something "corish"
But whatever it looks like or does (can you shoot it?), just name it what a marine would call it if he was walking by and saw one.
But whatever it looks like or does (can you shoot it?), just name it what a marine would call it if he was walking by and saw one.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ghost is a thought. If wisp didn't have fantasy connotations I'd suggest that.
Kep or Kepel (Kepler's 2nd law)
Peria (periapsis)
(oh wait thats what lerks have, well maybe rename the lerk one cause its silly)
skulk
lerk
fade
haunt
yup