Left 4 Dead

TychoCelchuuu

<!--quoteo(post=1692866:date=Nov 8 2008, 09:01 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 8 2008, 09:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692866"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder if people won't be able to game that system, such as never shooting your teammates but molotoving them right at the end so they all fall as you head to win by yourself. Surgical application of ######tardery rather indiscriminate spraying of bullets at all your teammates won't show up as significantly elevated friendly fire in the stats.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your team can vote to disallow someone from throwing grenades.

Svenpa

"Grenades here!, no francis, you can't have one"

Just got it working by redownloading after doing everything steam support suggested.

Crappy ping is certainly a issue when quick finding a game, shoot moving zombies with 150 ping or more is terrible and also prone to friendlyfire.

The naughty abrah hoped to leave us to the wolves after throwing a molotov on the stairs while he stood in the safehouse door, laughing at us as the swarm poured in. I gave him my 2 cents in the head. The other 2 were lying around so I made sprint for the door and laughed even greater as I closed the door, thumping abrah on the forehead. The ingrate were lying right in the doorway, blocking it, and refused to respond to additional bullets. I got him up and slammed the door shut before he could retaliate.

We also ganged up what grenades and fuel pots we could before attacking the witch sobbing in a corner, we only lost one man to her spree, the one who didn't think it was a good idea.

In my last game, the witch was placed in the train.. with no other routes around. Great fun.

gamakun

If you have bots as teammates the zombies are easier because player teammates are generally smarter; so valve made it harder if you do have player teammates.

Geminosity

<!--quoteo(post=1692882:date=Nov 8 2008, 05:36 PM:name=gamakun)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gamakun @ Nov 8 2008, 05:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692882"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->player teammates are generally smarter<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That's debatable ;D

The bots are alarmingly good actually. They clear infected off friends before I even know they're in danger. They kinda make the game almost play itself to a degree :o

Abra

<!--quoteo(post=1692881:date=Nov 8 2008, 06:19 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svenpa @ Nov 8 2008, 06:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692881"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The naughty abrah hoped to leave us to the wolves after throwing a molotov on the stairs while he stood in the safehouse door, laughing at us as the swarm poured in. I gave him my 2 cents in the head. The other 2 were lying around so I made sprint for the door and laughed even greater as I closed the door, thumping abrah on the forehead. The ingrate were lying right in the doorway, blocking it, and refused to respond to additional bullets. I got him up and slammed the door shut before he could retaliate.

We also ganged up what grenades and fuel pots we could before attacking the witch sobbing in a corner, we only lost one man to her spree, the one who didn't think it was a good idea.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That game was great fun!

I'm quite the human doorstop, am I not?

Gas cans are by far my favorite weapon. Did you know, that you can melee while holding a gas can? Melee-shove + can throw + bullet following the thrown can = spektacularrr.

lolfighter

So apparently teamkilling and backstabbing is rampant in this game? Disheartening. Can anyone please share a story where the players work TOGETHER? Or is the game too easy if you don't help the zombies kill your teammates?

douchebagatron

the only time ive tked, or been tked, it was either a complete accident and they apologized, or it was some friends screwing around.

Scythe

The only time I've ever seen someone TKed was when a huge zombie rush occurred simultaneously with a hunter AND a boomer. There was a huge mass of zombies thrashing two of our guys. The third guy in the team threw a moltov onto the pile of flesh.

I awarded him the prestigious "World's least advisable moltov." accolade. One of the team members that burned to death corrected me: "World's most AWESOME moltov."

The only acts of genuine lamery I've seen was when someone kept closing the safehouse door at the end, not letting the last guy in. A votekick quickly resolved the issue. The other time was when I myself shot a jerry can of petrol just outside the final safehouse, creating a moat of fire between them and safety. I was already on the safe side, or so I thought, laughing myself silly. A hunter prompty lept out of the darkness and pinned me down. My teammates couldn't come to my aid due to the fire. I lived, but barely.

--Scythe--

Svenpa

Abrah, Liku, me and some other pub player managed to kill a early tank in road_to_hospital. It involved thrashing of the safedoor, a burning tank, two killed teammates and a terrified Liku running up and down a vent, which I desperately tried crawling further into. When only I finally remained and slayed the beast with deadly accuracy. Taking the warm applause of my mates as I save them all from the same room.

The witch is a silly thing, she only activates if someone steps on her face deliberately or you are forced to make her move. In other rare cases, when Liku can't see she's sitting next to him on the train.

Also, someone clarify, will it be 10 NEW weapons in full version or total 10 weapons? We did some counting and if it's the former they would have to remove one instead of adding.

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1692901:date=Nov 8 2008, 05:50 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Nov 8 2008, 05:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692901"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So apparently teamkilling and backstabbing is rampant in this game? Disheartening. Can anyone please share a story where the players work TOGETHER? Or is the game too easy if you don't help the zombies kill your teammates?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I have run into one person who was a bit heavy on the FF (because he sucked).

Everything else has generally been trying to save the person in question.



Or just killing each other to be idiots <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> (but only with friends so far)

douchebagatron

really? the ones i count are

pistol
uzi
shotgun
hunting rifle
autoshotgun
assault rifle
pipe bomb
molotov

Thansal

double pistol.

but still, that is only 9.

And the tag line is "10 New Weapons"

Svenpa

<!--quoteo(post=1692911:date=Nov 9 2008, 02:08 AM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ Nov 9 2008, 02:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692911"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->really? the ones i count are

pistol
uzi
shotgun
hunting rifle
autoshotgun
assault rifle
pipe bomb
molotov<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Melee
Dual Pistol
Minigun

"We realized it became so easy we removed melee from full version"

gamakun

lol in expert with the numbers of zombies sometimes it is really difficult to not tk with a shotgun.

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1692913:date=Nov 8 2008, 08:19 PM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svenpa @ Nov 8 2008, 08:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692913"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Melee
Dual Pistol
Minigun

"We realized it became so easy we removed melee from full version"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is no melee weapon.

So yah, with the minigun, that is 10 weapons.

Abra

There most certainly is! The gas can!

Crispy

<!--quoteo(post=1692822:date=Nov 7 2008, 10:47 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Nov 7 2008, 10:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692822"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Because versus mode isn't released yet.
You can start friend-only games. You can also invite friends to your game, and kick people from the lobby. It's really not difficult.

--Scythe--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->But no dedicated servers can do this, amirite?

How well does it run if you're hosting a game and all the players are from the same general region (East Coast, West Coast, Aus, Euro, etc.). Laggy? Passable? Excellent?

Crispy

<!--quoteo(post=1692913:date=Nov 9 2008, 12:19 AM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Svenpa @ Nov 9 2008, 12:19 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692913"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Melee
Dual Pistol
Minigun

"We realized it became so easy we removed melee from full version"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Melee is an attack, not a weapon.

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1692940:date=Nov 9 2008, 07:53 AM:name=Abra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Abra @ Nov 9 2008, 07:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692940"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There most certainly is! The gas can!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ok, so that is 11 weapons. (And no, calling the gas can melee is silly, it is an explosive that also has a knock back like all the other weapons)

douchebagatron

<!--quoteo(post=1692944:date=Nov 9 2008, 07:30 AM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Nov 9 2008, 07:30 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692944"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But no dedicated servers can do this, amirite?

How well does it run if you're hosting a game and all the players are from the same general region (East Coast, West Coast, Aus, Euro, etc.). Laggy? Passable? Excellent?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think the only time ive had a lag problem is when we couldnt connect to a dedicated server and someone hosted it themselves. I played several games with Abra, from denmark, while im across the pond over here in oklahoma, and we never had a lag problem at all.

Crispy

Are you saying that you can set someone else's dedicated server to friend only once you're inside? I'm confused :S

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1692973:date=Nov 9 2008, 01:11 PM:name=Crispy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crispy @ Nov 9 2008, 01:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692973"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are you saying that you can set someone else's dedicated server to friend only once you're inside? I'm confused :S<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yup.

When you are the lobby master you have options, and one of them s to set stuff to friend only.

douchebagatron

but that means to get into the server you just have to be a friend of SOMEONE in the server, not just the lobby master.

Abra

Here we have, although hard to see, a witch responding to a hunter's approach. We sat there in the end of the train car for a half minute just watching the hunter get mauled by the witch.
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And here we see Svenpa, carrying what in the end saved our butts.
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douchebagatron

and by saving our butts, he means that after we killed everything, a tank fell off the balcony and landed on me and kfdm killing me instantly, and chacing him down into the basement. the pansies ran upstairs and hid in the saferoom. thanks guys.



<!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->I still haven't made it into the second saferoom on expert...<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

Align

There're more objects than the gas can that can be picked up and melee-ed with. Someone spawned a bunch of gas tubes (totally different) in a Youtube video, for one. So that's still well above 10.

Svenpa

Different view.

<a href="http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=l4ddemhospital02subway0qg9.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/88/l4ddemhospital02subway0qg9.th.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a><a href="http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php" target="_blank"><img src="http://img352.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>

The tank at the end doesn't bother with stairs, he just pulls himself up from the bottom, eek.

Throwing a molotov on a dying survivor with a horde sitting on his/her face is totally worth it.

X_Stickman

I haven't played much L4D online (I have serious problems connecting to anything, although I have managed to get one online game), and not much single player either.

I remember reading something ages ago that "killed" players could be found later in the level, stuck in a filing cabinet/closet and banging, and someone had to let them out?

Is that not in the game, or just not in the demo?

KungFuDiscoMonkey

<!--quoteo(post=1692999:date=Nov 9 2008, 12:50 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Nov 9 2008, 12:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I remember reading something ages ago that "killed" players could be found later in the level, stuck in a filing cabinet/closet and banging, and someone had to let them out?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's in there.

Pulse

<!--quoteo(post=1692999:date=Nov 9 2008, 12:50 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Nov 9 2008, 12:50 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1692999"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I haven't played much L4D online (I have serious problems connecting to anything, although I have managed to get one online game), and not much single player either.

I remember reading something ages ago that "killed" players could be found later in the level, stuck in a filing cabinet/closet and banging, and someone had to let them out?

Is that not in the game, or just not in the demo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's in the demo.