TF2 Update Thread

Monkfish

I just realised..if they took the time to add THIRTY NINE new medic achievements, why didn't they put any in relating to the new map? like not letting them cap any points or winning withou any defenses from the other team.

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1677205:date=Apr 30 2008, 10:55 AM:name=Sonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sonic @ Apr 30 2008, 10:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677205"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just realised..if they took the time to add THIRTY NINE new medic achievements, why didn't they put any in relating to the new map? like not letting them cap any points or winning withou any defenses from the other team.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yah, I was kinda looking for that. win with out giving up a single CP and Win in under X mins.

BTW, any one else notice that the Sawbones achievement image was originally 10 not 5? (last night when it was first posted)

Kouji_San

80% medic teams suck. Here we were on pubs sometimes without any decent medics and now we have to many useless medics <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

Ah well at least there's a new map, which is more in my interest (I do play medic though and since last week I have grown attached to the German madman) I'm not even interested in achievements, but these new weapons are kinda nice (versatility for the medic seems a good idea as it can get quite tedious <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> )

Thansal

new updated, the console achievement unlock no longer works.

let us see if they spank those people that used it...


edit:
People on steampowered.com are saying they didn't roll back achievements.

Fake Plastic Necro Says I lies and ze go poof!

lolfighter

I still haven't seen a team capable of getting past stage 2, point 2 on gold rush. Too chokepointy, too easy to spam the ###### out of.

X_Stickman

<!--quoteo(post=1677233:date=Apr 30 2008, 08:08 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Apr 30 2008, 08:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677233"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I still haven't seen a team capable of getting past stage 2, point 2 on gold rush. Too chokepointy, too easy to spam the ###### out of.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Here's a free tip then:

When you get the cart to the last point? Don't go and stare at it. Like I did.

Run away.

douchebagatron

if you kill a scout with the unlocked syringe gun, does it count towards the achievement?

and for the uber a pyro and burn 5 people, does the pyro have to kill them or just set them on fire?

lolfighter

<!--quoteo(post=1677235:date=Apr 30 2008, 09:10 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Apr 30 2008, 09:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677235"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here's a free tip then:

When you get the cart to the last point? Don't go and stare at it. Like I did.

Run away.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh, I've seen it on my own little listenserver. I also watched the video, so I knew what was in store. But the last point is on stage three, and stage two is impassable, so it doesn't matter.

Thansal

Said it before, will say it again.

I have seen attackers win 50/50, and that is only including the games were were were seriously playing.

Kouji_San

Seen it get to stage 3 third part, but not beyond... Also I watched the bomb go down the hole on a listen server, it all went to hell <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

TychoCelchuuu

I've played the map three times, twice on offense and once on defense. The teams were the same the entire time, and the bomb blew up one of the three times (one of the times we were on offense). To get rid of stickies just send in a few ubers to kill the demomen.

Paranoia2MB

What are these achievments in TF2? Is it like Battlefield?

remi

Kinda funny how Valve left in console commands for unlocking achievements...
They quickly patched it, but for those that don't know, you could type "achievement_unlock_all" in console and get all of them.

From what I have heard, those that used that command had all their medic achievements removed, regardless of legality. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />

I agree with the common sentiment. Too many crappy medics. This encourages good medics to be medic as well, but I have realized I can not rely on the medics on my team to actually heal me. I play as if there is no medic, running back to get medpacks.

C'est le vie...

And of course if I want to be medic there's so few players to actually heal it's stupid.

X_Stickman

Just played an 11 a side game of TF2, and 6 of my team were medics just healing each other outside the spawn. I don't really know what they hoped to achieve. They all had that "second opinion" thing within a few minutes, and the other team weren't really able to hurt them.

remi

<!--quoteo(post=1677260:date=Apr 30 2008, 07:23 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Apr 30 2008, 07:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677260"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just played an 11 a side game of TF2, and 6 of my team were medics just healing each other outside the spawn. I don't really know what they hoped to achieve. They all had that "second opinion" thing within a few minutes, and the other team weren't really able to hurt them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, I played a game where one jackass was just running around bonesawing... .and the other medics weren't being any more helpful. (This is the game I was referring to when I said I just started playing as if there were no medics)

Kouji_San

On the one hand Valve wants to make the medic class more atractive, on the other hand they pushed lamers into the class who only want the achievements. I say, screw that and give us the equipment ffs, achievements are so stupid if they unlock weapons and yes, this kind of behavior is to be expected when you design achievements like this...

I'm beginning to think Valve or rather the TF2 design team is just a newbie in terms of game design. First we have crits... Then we have spawns with only one exit (2fort for example), not to mention 3-4 meters (9-12 feet) melee reach, and now we have this crap...

TychoCelchuuu

<!--quoteo(post=1677262:date=Apr 30 2008, 06:45 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kouji_San @ Apr 30 2008, 06:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677262"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm beginning to think Valve or rather the TF2 design team is just a newbie in terms of game design. First we have crits... Then we have spawns with only one exit (2fort for example), not to mention 3-4 meters (9-12 feet) melee reach, and now we have this crap...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Yeah, everyone should quit this stupid game and go play your perfectly balanced 9-class multiplayer team based shooter.

Private_Coleman

TBH crits are pretty dumb.

enf0rcer

<!--quoteo(post=1677264:date=Apr 30 2008, 07:11 PM:name=Private_Coleman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Private_Coleman @ Apr 30 2008, 07:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677264"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->TBH crits are pretty dumb.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

my ingame name is "criticals are LAME"

Plenty of people will type something like "I agree crits" when I kill them

or when I kill them in a crit "oh the irony" etc

I don't like them as a game feature

CommunistWithAGun

Enjoy TF2 for what it is, but don't ever use it as a game to bolster ego. At least untill Dice throwing is in the olympics.

X_Stickman

Crits are fine tbh. They can get annoying when you're killed by them, but feel good when you kill with them. The most annoying thing about them is when I shoot off some rounds in the air for fun, or rocket/sticky-bomb jump, and waste a crit. Wish there was some method of predicting them.

Crispy

Abrah/Svenpa/Gwahir/Nirgal/Shockwave, wanna team up to get some of the harder achievements (legitimately)?

I think I'm gonna spend the whole bank holiday statwhoring! XD

P.S. Crits suck.

Kouji_San

<!--quoteo(post=1677263:date=May 1 2008, 01:56 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ May 1 2008, 01:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677263"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, everyone should quit this stupid game and go play your perfectly balanced 9-class multiplayer team based shooter.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My hostility meter is of the scale here TC <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

I'm just saying if they fix those small things TF would be a better game, their custom servers are not working either. They are way to hidden within the server browser and will not gain popularity

And since were on the topic of crits, imho the dev team was either drunk or stoned when designing them. I mean what is this <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" /> --> Give the better players more crits? Their excuse: "<i>if a player does well he will continue to do well for a while</i>" (with crits). That goes against their accesibility statement to help newbie players, who will get owned more with these uber crit crapping players. I dunno about you guys, but I'd rather take out player/sentry on my own accord instead of a random crit blast. To me that is less satisfying...

Ah well, at least goldrush is a nice map (even with 80% med!cks and 1 or 2 medics)

remi

Does it bother anyone else that practically every server is a 24/7 SOME MAP server?

I have such a hard time finding a server that will have map changes so I actually get a varied experience... and I'm not just playing dustbowl round 240.

Thansal

<!--quoteo(post=1677308:date=May 1 2008, 09:04 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ May 1 2008, 09:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677308"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Does it bother anyone else that practically every server is a 24/7 SOME MAP server?

I have such a hard time finding a server that will have map changes so I actually get a varied experience... and I'm not just playing dustbowl round 240.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yup, sucks balls.

I have basically been adding decent servers to my favorites as I go. Anything that is either not 24/7 anything, or that has at least 2 good maps on rotation (one is a 24/7 dustbowl/gravel pit, which I am totally cool with).

what really bugs me is that we have this nifty tags system (that honestly sucks bawls), but I can't figure out how to put in a NEGATIVE. I mean, I type in 24/7 I get all the 24/7 servers, however I can't find out the logical not for a tag.

TychoCelchuuu

<!--quoteo(post=1677305:date=May 1 2008, 06:51 AM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kouji_San @ May 1 2008, 06:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1677305"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My hostility meter is of the scale here TC <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />

I'm just saying if they fix those small things TF would be a better game, their custom servers are not working either. They are way to hidden within the server browser and will not gain popularity

And since were on the topic of crits, imho the dev team was either drunk or stoned when designing them. I mean what is this <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" /> --> Give the better players more crits? Their excuse: "<i>if a player does well he will continue to do well for a while</i>" (with crits). That goes against their accesibility statement to help newbie players, who will get owned more with these uber crit crapping players. I dunno about you guys, but I'd rather take out player/sentry on my own accord instead of a random crit blast. To me that is less satisfying...

Ah well, at least goldrush is a nice map (even with 80% med!cks and 1 or 2 medics)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Some people don't like crits and some people do. I don't really care one way or another. I think they gave players more crits when they are on a roll to encourage streakiness: it feels fun to go on long killing sprees and an increasing chance of crits makes this more likely. Plus if you got crits for sucking people might start to suck a bunch before a big push.

Thansal

one of the other rational for critstreaks was so that you would have fewer stalemates. If you get people really jsut dominating the game would end sooner so you wouldn't have long drawn out games.

I still only have one problem with crits is that they are one shot kills and I don't like those on anything except for backstab and head shot (or possibly a full sniper shot on things like scouts/spies/pyros). My solution was simply that no single hit can reduce a player from hull HP to 0 baring those listed earlier. So if you round the corner and run into a crit rocket at full HP you don't die, you just got to 1 hp.

douchebagatron

well i found out that you still get the scout kills counted if youre using the new needle gun, so im guessing that kills with any of the new weapons still count. in case anyone was wondering.

but i can't figure out how to get the uber 2 people achievement. anyone done this?

Align

It seems to be what it says but doesn't register reliably. Took me two tries in one life.

Kouji_San

A youtube (how to play the medic) says rapidly switching between players when ubering will allow you to uber 2 and in rare cases 3 players at a time, but then again it's not reliable as 6john said