Warhammer 40,000 MMO

AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
Well, smack me down and call me grandma, but I am honestly surprised. I didn't think they were gonna do it.

<a href="http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6166560.html" target="_blank">http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6166560.html</a>

THQ and Games Workshop have reworked their license, to allow THQ to make an MMO set in the universe.
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  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    edited February 2007
    I have to change my pants now.



    They better not ###### it up.

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  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    I can't post one of the many, MANY images I have that say ###### yeah, but, well..

    ###### yeah.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    How is it gonna work? Surely the 40k universe is too.... structured to allow free-MMO play. It's not like individual space marines ask for a quest from the chapter master or something.
    Someone with a better grasp on the 40k universe could probably answer this, though.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Well, THQ did good with DoW and CoH, so I think they'll do fine with this...


    They had better do it Huxley/Planetside style though. (MMOFPS 40k? ###### PWN.) Otherwise I'll use my trusty spork to do some throat-stabbage.
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    I hope they do it akin to a Planetside / Huxley style of gameplay, as in an MMOFPS-ish game.

    That would make every second of life on this miserable planet something to cherish here-after.
  • CrotalusCrotalus Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23871Members
    edited February 2007
    <b><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->holy freaking ####<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> </b>

    this is a dream come true! The only way it could be wrecked is if they don't include Tau...

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  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    They pretty much HAVE to include Tau if it's an MMOFPS. They're the shootiest next to Orks and IG.



    God... Leman Russes spinning througha bombed out hive, las rifles crackling in the night air with commissars shouting orders and shooting their own men. Cultists screaming and rushing at the guardsmen, only to be cut down by a space marine with a nasty case of Crusade in his finger.


    Mmm.

    Warhammer 40,000; better than sex.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    Oh man if it was like Planetside...... whoa.

    I'm still waiting on a film version of the Horus Heresy, too. CGI. By the guys who did the DoW intro.

    Oh man that'd be so awesome.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1610146:date=Feb 28 2007, 08:40 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ Feb 28 2007, 08:40 PM) [snapback]1610146[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Oh man if it was like Planetside...... whoa.

    I'm still waiting on a film version of the Horus Heresy, too. CGI. By the guys who did the DoW intro.

    Oh man that'd be so awesome.
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    There's a german film coming out called Damnatus about the inquisition. Fan made and looks really decent.
  • CrotalusCrotalus Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23871Members
    I would have to imagine this would be a game that would play similarily to Planetside.

    Honestly, it CANNOT be WH40K unless you have the vehicles. It can't be like WoW, which is a traditional MMORPG. It needs to be MMOFPS unless those guys find some way to put it together to be an RPG. Obviously, combat is going to have to be completely real-time, otherwise you can't capture the imaginative spirit of what WH40K SHOULD look like on the battlefield...even if they manage to turn it into an RPG, it would end up looking like an Oblivion online type game or D&D online...
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    edited February 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1610148:date=Feb 28 2007, 08:45 PM:name=Crotalus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crotalus @ Feb 28 2007, 08:45 PM) [snapback]1610148[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I would have to imagine this would be a game that would play similarily to Planetside.

    Honestly, it CANNOT be WH40K unless you have the vehicles. It can't be like WoW, which is a traditional MMORPG. It needs to be MMOFPS unless those guys find some way to put it together to be an RPG. Obviously, combat is going to have to be completely real-time, otherwise you can't capture the imaginative spirit of what WH40K SHOULD look like on the battlefield...even if they manage to turn it into an RPG, it would end up looking like an Oblivion online type game or D&D online...
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    Well, if the melee combat is like Oblivion's, I'll be fine. (Man, I love hitting people with a two handed sword and seeing them crumple >:))

    Edit: Apostrophes.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I dunno, it's tough to imagine an MMO without some sort of grind, and it's tough to imagine any sort of grind working in the WH40k universe. I don't want to have to spend 45 hours with a bolt pistol before I get a bolter, and another 50 before I get a heavy bolter, and so on. WH40k is about brutal combat, brilliant tactics, and a history-rich universe. An MMO can certainly do the universe, but brutal combat and brilliant tactics? Epic battles devolve into fragfests at best and lagfests at worst. We'll see.

    /me goes to play WH40k:Chaos Gate
  • AldarisAldaris Join Date: 2002-03-25 Member: 351Members, Constellation
    Hmm, maybe a Necromunda setting?
  • CrotalusCrotalus Join Date: 2003-12-02 Member: 23871Members
    edited February 2007
    Oh yeah man, I would totally love a Planetside-ish WH40K game. You would have all your friggin' sweet vehicles, bikes, and battlesuits. Then you've got basic infantry, jump infantry, and even cooler, melee infantry. That would be really interesting you know, if there were hero units? They would have ridiculously huge melee weapons that would kill swaths of troopers and rip gashes out of tanks.

    I think it would be cool if the game mechanics were designed to allow the players to sustain more damage and survive longer than, say a game of Counter Strike where all that is required is a head shot. That way when you play, it's not a peanut gallery. It would require tactics to truly crush the opposition when individual skill doesn't work. Battles would be longer and more interesting than short and frustrating like certain FPS's out there.

    EDIT:
    OMG I compleletly forgot Necromunda. It would work perfectly in a MMORPG game. The only problem I have with Necromunda is that I feel that it encompasses a rather small section of WH40K. It focuses around a Hive City, which even though is perfect for an MMORPG, I really feel that a MMOFPS would capture the original spirit of WH40K...it would be more epic, you know? You could travel to and attack different worlds (maybe) and it would allow for massive battles like the tabletop game...
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    NO NO NO NO NOOOOO...

    /me cries

    Oh god... This will be so very, very terrible. MMOs and the wh40k universe do not mix. At all. I don't want to see an imperial space marine say "lol" ever. <b>Ever</b>.

    --Scythe--
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1610161:date=Feb 28 2007, 06:33 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Feb 28 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]1610161[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> NO NO NO NO NOOOOO...

    /me cries

    Oh god... This will be so very, very terrible. MMOs and the wh40k universe do not mix. At all. I don't want to see an imperial space marine say "lol" ever. <b>Ever</b>.

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    o RRRRRY?

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  • RuByRuBy Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10732Members
    They have to do this right... The scale of 40k is just insane, it's hard to imagine spending the time to make a game that won't sell.

    Is Relic making the game? As I understand it, THQ is just producing...


    It's a bit tough to imagine how they're going to bring the fluff together with the epic-ness of battles. On one hand I'm very excited to walk around the gothic post-apocalyptic cities as an inquisitor, and really <i>live</i> in this futuristic world, but it wouldn't feel like 40k if you don't have huge armies facing each other. I hope they do include a good number of races (SM, IG, Inquistors/SoB vs. Orks, Chaos, Nids seems like the minimum) and the ability to really develop your character in a unique fashion.

    I really can't see "grinding" in this game the way it exists in WoW... "Bring me ten gretchin teeth"... Just no. I imagine some sort of universe would have to exist with multiple planets to really do justice to each race.

    I could go on in this stream of consciousness, but it really seems like an impossible task to make a successful game out of this franchise. If they do, however, I will be playing it no doubt.
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    edited February 2007
    I can see how this could work as an MMO.

    Take Planetside, make it have sex with SWG+JtLS expansion, then paint their lovechild with pure awesome, inject some minced goth, and then marinate it in liquid war.

    Voila, the perfect WH40k MMO.

    Edit : For those asking if Relic is making it, no, they aren't. It's some Austin-based developer under THQ, I heard mention of devs from NCSoft somewhere on the RDN's 40k forums. (Not NCSoft themselves.)
  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    As long as I can pilot a dreadnought, I'll buy it.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1610173:date=Mar 1 2007, 02:36 PM:name=ChimpZealot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChimpZealot @ Mar 1 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1610173[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    As long as I can pilot a dreadnought, I'll buy it.
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    Unless you died two thousand years ago and had your body sealed inside one, you won't be piloting one anytime soon.

    Dreadnaughts don't have "pilots", they're essentially walking life-support systems for the near-corpse inside.

    --Scythe--
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1610178:date=Feb 28 2007, 09:38 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Feb 28 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]1610178[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

    Unless you died two thousand years ago and had your body sealed inside one, you won't be piloting one anytime soon.

    Dreadnaughts don't have "pilots", they're essentially walking life-support systems for the near-corpse inside.

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    There is a 40% chance they'll cheesify that entire aspect of the game and the player will be able to "pilot" them.
  • AnarkiThreeXSixAnarkiThreeXSix x_x Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24894Members
    Woooooooot. This is uber news.
    WH40k is the best stuff eeeveeer.

    Just like many things, this can end up awesome or crappy.
    But hell, if they capture just the feel of wh40k it'll make it all worthwhile.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1610182:date=Mar 1 2007, 04:47 PM:name=Zig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zig @ Mar 1 2007, 04:47 PM) [snapback]1610182[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    There is a 40% chance they'll cheesify that entire aspect of the game and the player will be able to "pilot" them.
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    They better balance it like Blizzard, then. "You can pilot an unstoppable killing machine, but... you'll never know <i>true love</i>. So there."
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1610197:date=Mar 1 2007, 02:10 AM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Mar 1 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]1610197[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    They better balance it like Blizzard, then. "You can pilot an unstoppable killing machine, but... you'll never know <i>true love</i>. So there."
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    But of course, then you just download the UI mod which adds True Love Tracker 2.37 to the radar getting around the only downside to it.

    We're talking Blizzard, of course...
  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1610178:date=Feb 28 2007, 09:38 PM:name=Scythe)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scythe @ Feb 28 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]1610178[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Unless you died two thousand years ago and had your body sealed inside one, you won't be piloting one anytime soon.

    Dreadnaughts don't have "pilots", they're essentially walking life-support systems for the near-corpse inside.

    --Scythe--
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    Bah, I knew as soon as I posted that that SOMEONE would be the smartbutt. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they include a remote piloting feature or something just to appease people like me.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1610197:date=Feb 28 2007, 10:10 PM:name=emperor_awesome)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(emperor_awesome @ Feb 28 2007, 10:10 PM) [snapback]1610197[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->

    They better balance it like Blizzard, then. "You can pilot an unstoppable killing machine, but... you'll never know <i>true love</i>. So there." <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yep, and only the IG and Space Marines will have females, and in fact, suddenly 90% of the terran-related characters will have boobs, and ALL the other races will be ugly and unappealing to children below the age of 10, thus creating an instant and permanent imbalance in the game, until an expansion pack includes "light dark eldar" and "reformed chaos space marines", and BOTH of them have boobs.
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    I'll have to agree with Scythe on this one, I doubt it will work out. Warhammer Online didn't seem to really work out either. I suppose that's a problem (or an inherited design thingy I guess), they're all high fantasy or high sci-fi - as people don't want to play the lowly imperial guardsman who is constantly yelled/treatened at by the commissar behind him. Or as a begger who has no special abilities.

    People. Want. To. Be. Heroes. And. Kick. ######. Or. At. Least. Have. Funky. Abilities.

    Problem is, that goes like crap with Warhammer, as most people do definitely not kick ######. :/


    *shrug* At least, I seriously doubt it will work out, either they stick to it closely by for example making a dreadnought a class and whatnot, but then most people will go at that, and either you'll have tons of dreadnoughts on the battlefield, or they will limit the amount of them on the battlefield, but then there will be queues - they could also limit the amount of dreadnought players I guess, but then they could end up having inactive players hog the dreadnought slots..

    ...Or they cheesify the whole thing (ie. by making dreadnoughts pilotable), and it falls to the ground anyway.

    One of the few ways I could see it work would be that it's basically just a MMOFPS with no RPG elements, ie. you don't have any reoccuring characters (maybe other than saying that when you play an imperial guardsmen, your name is "this and that", and you look like "this".. ie..) And then you just join a battle, like you join a FPS server, which would either not begin until a certain amount of players have been met, or just play rounds, and on the server you get to choose what you play as in that battle. So you decide on a battle to battle basis, which would avoid dreadnoughts being hogged as I mentioned, or piloted :S

    ... But then it's kinda just a huge FPS, which could easily end up lacking depth.


    And finally, yes.. the "lol"s would be terrible <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Members, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1610223:date=Mar 1 2007, 08:34 AM:name=Zig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zig @ Mar 1 2007, 08:34 AM) [snapback]1610223[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Yep, and only the IG and Space Marines will have females, and in fact, suddenly 90% of the terran-related characters will have boobs, and ALL the other races will be ugly and unappealing to children below the age of 10, thus creating an instant and permanent imbalance in the game, until an expansion pack includes "light dark eldar" and "reformed chaos space marines", and BOTH of them have boobs.
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    There are NO female space marines.

    And there are also no female IGs, unless you are taking the assassin temple in consideration.


    Eldars have female warrior by default, as do dark eldars.

    Ordo Mallo has a chapter made of females, but they are a mix between SM and IG and they follow there own ruleset.

    Orcs dont have a sex, cause they reproduce by sporing.

    Chaos can have females, if a female falls before chaos, but the default models dont include females.

    Tyranids have females, but without boobs. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

    Edit: And there WILL NEVER be female space marines, cause SMs are genetically engineered from their chapters primarch. And because the primarchs were genetically engineered from the emperor and the emperor is in fact male...
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited March 2007
    I wonder if people are prewriting their 'Nerf Eldar/SM/IG/Chaos/Whatever' threads for their forums...
    I love 40k. I love the lore, I love the style. Worked for them for years. This isn't going to work.

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