ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
did you take the training missions?
if so you should know <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Spunky, have you heard anything else about the HUD disappearing? It won't show any text period (including chat messages), just bars and the targeting picture at the bottom.
Great game though, best part is the XvT controls. I'm already in an XvT clan, and XvT still pwns, 'cept for maybe the lag.
Ok heres basic tips I've found out while playing...
When game starts load your cargo up with probes, then launch. Press F3 to go into the commander view and go scout around other sectors finding new alephs, dropping probes where you think they might be helpful (they will tell you what enemies are in a sector). Pick up any "tech" (weapons, boosters, etc.) you see when scouting around. When youre looking for alephs, they form in a pattern in the sector, two alephs = line, three = triangle, four = square, etc. Use this to predict where the other alephs might be. Once youre done scouting, ripcord back to your base (target base with B then rip with R). Now you can either climb into a fighter and defend your miners (find where they are by bringing up the mini map and looking for the shovel), stay at home, scout some more, or just see what others are doing and follow them around.
<!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Jun 8 2003, 04:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jun 8 2003, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just on the off-hand... anyone else get horrible amounts of frameskip/slowdown at the default resolution? Running a Radeon 9500 Pro, so I honestly can't see what would be lagging it that hard at 800x600, unless the game pulls funky visual rendering techniques. The lack of an ability to set up your visual options other than in-game is moderately annoying as well, being a tweakaholic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just as a test, runs fine at 1024x768 on a Kyro2 for crisakes. Radeon 9500 should be happy as a clam chewing on it at MUCH higher resolutions, both effective and real, than that.
I have no problem logging in with sovLogin. Allegiance than launches. I can't get to the lobby however. When I click gameslist I get the box asking for my callsign and then after a 10 second pause a "Failed to connect to the lobby message" Also at the top of the page where you select games list it still says zone matchmaking service. Is this right? I'm using the retail version of allegiance with the patch from your page. Should I just try the download version?
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Are any of the 'failed to connect to Lobby' people behind a NAT? Take a look at the docs, and note that you need to map in the DirectPlay ports to your machine in order to get it to work.
<!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+Jun 8 2003, 08:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Jun 8 2003, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are any of the 'failed to connect to Lobby' people behind a NAT? Take a look at the docs, and note that you need to map in the DirectPlay ports to your machine in order to get it to work. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have a cable modem and airport extreme router. Could you be a little more specific as to what I gotta do? What docs? How do I map the ports?
As to my system specs I have windows 2000pro running on:
Product name Genuine Intel® Pentium® 4 processor based system Board model Genuine Intel® D845PEBT2 system board OS version Windows* 2000 version 5.0 Service Pack 3 build 2195 OS memory 523,056 KB RAM
<!--QuoteBegin--DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN+Jun 8 2003, 10:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeAtH_tO_gOrDoN @ Jun 8 2003, 10:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is there a way to get this game on a CD for we 56ks? You should consider making a service - $5 for a CD with the installer on it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Its only 33MB, I got it in an hour.
Go to <a href='http://docs.alleg.net' target='_blank'>http://docs.alleg.net</a> then Connectivity Issues. Basically you need to forward DirectX 7 ports you your machine, and if the range is too large (102 ports) then you need to narrow it down with DXPort.
Oh, and someone was asking about Training Mission 7 - you need to have the server installed for that to work.
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
edited June 2003
I get "cannot connect to lobby server" regardless of whether or not I'm using my firewall (zonealarm) and it works sometimes, but its extremely rare and seemingly random, once again, I play in 640x480 because I get horrible FPS in anything higher than that, my vid card is a Geforce2mx 32mb, which is 100x faster than my voodo 3, which is faster than a TNT2... [edit] I have a DSL modem (no router) using a standard NIC configuration [/edit]
<!--QuoteBegin--spunkmeyer+Jun 8 2003, 09:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (spunkmeyer @ Jun 8 2003, 09:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Melkor, Basically you need to forward DirectX 7 ports you your machine, and if the range is too large (102 ports) then you need to narrow it down with DXPort.
Oh, and someone was asking about Training Mission 7 - you need to have the server installed for that to work.
Spunky <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thanks for all the help but I still don't understand exactly what to do. I followed the instructions at that link and DXDIAG says allegiance is using DX7 which means(according to that page)that I need the following ports open: Initial TCP Connection 47624 Outbound 47624 Inbound Subsequent TCP Inbound 2300-2400 2300-2400 Subsequent TCP Outbound 2300-2400 2300-2400 Subsequent UDP Inbound 2300-2400 2300-2400 Subsequent UDP Outbound 2300-2400 2300-2400
Right?
Ok, so what do I do with that info. A step by step explanation would helpfulcuz I have no experience opening ports.
I did download DXport, and started it. I entered 2300 at start port, and then entered 2400 for stop port. Next I hit update. It then gave me a list of all the ports from 2300 to 2400 and said Available UDP/TCP. I left the program running and tried to connect and still had no luck.
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
Don't go to LAN games you eediot! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> You go to free games, if that doesn't work I can't help you.
i went to both, lan disconnected me from game immediately, free went alright until i tried to locate current games and then a microsoft/computer error [not connection or anything]
Every time I try to join an actual game... boom, fails THERE.
DirectPlay ports, TCP and UDP, even the 'server' ports, are set up correctly through the Linux 2.4.x NAT box.
System is WinXP, newest video card drivers, tried reinstalling DirectX 9.0a and that didn't help. What's goign on here, and what else needs to be mapped? Normally, I'm the one folks go to for help on this, so it's double-annoying. =-.-= I just can't figure out the problem. :-P
sounds like everybody's having a lot of trouble =/
somebody [cough.. not me... cough...] should make a huge FAQ/help doc <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Training is nothing like the actual game - those who have already played will attest to that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Now, I have no idea what eediot's problem is. Never encountered or heard of anything of the sort. Sorry. Again, someone else on AHQ might be able to help.
Wolf, crash (exception violation in SOVLogin) on joining the actual game is a sure sign that you didn't apply the patch. I haven't encountered another reason so far.
Melkor, you have to setup your router to forward those ports to your gaming machine. It depends on the actual router - could be a web interface (you type <a href='http://192.168.1.1' target='_blank'>http://192.168.1.1</a> or whatever your routers IP is in your browser), could be a telnet interface, could be a utility. Either google for it or post your router model on AHQ. What you'll eventually end up doing is telling the router to send TCP and UDP conection on those ports to the internal IP address of your game machine. Some routers cannot forward all 102 ports involved because they don't have an option to enter a range (instead each individual port has to be forwarded one by one) - that's where DXPort comes in. It reduces the number of ports needed from 102 to 10 or less.
Silencer, when you are having the problem, do a tracert www.alleg.net. The last few hops before it times out should look like this:
16 130 ms 70 ms 150 ms srp1-0.rlghnca-rtr1.nc.rr.com [66.26.33.179] 17 100 ms 130 ms 70 ms srp4-0.rlghncg-rtr1.nc.rr.com [66.26.33.167] 18 160 ms 210 ms 100 ms srp1-0.rlghncj-ubr2.nc.rr.com [24.25.1.150]
If you can't get that far, it's an intermittent router outage somewhere along the way. Nothing can be done.
Feel bad for all you guys having trouble playing <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> Been in the game several times already, although now one concern i have: During the evenings at least there seems to be absolutely no one on. Played in one game earlier with about 30 people, now can't find any active games. Is this normal? Or am I using an outdated server or something?
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
Umm... Whats a tracert and how do I do it? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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if so you should know <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Like, its on the screen with Free game and Lan game and Training at bottom.. Not in the game.
/me kicks work in the shins.
/me looks at overtime check.
/me rubs work's shin and apologizes, and buys a spare ferrrari...
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Spunky, have you heard anything else about the HUD disappearing? It won't show any text period (including chat messages), just bars and the targeting picture at the bottom.
Great game though, best part is the XvT controls. I'm already in an XvT clan, and XvT still pwns, 'cept for maybe the lag.
When game starts load your cargo up with probes, then launch. Press F3 to go into the commander view and go scout around other sectors finding new alephs, dropping probes where you think they might be helpful (they will tell you what enemies are in a sector). Pick up any "tech" (weapons, boosters, etc.) you see when scouting around. When youre looking for alephs, they form in a pattern in the sector, two alephs = line, three = triangle, four = square, etc. Use this to predict where the other alephs might be. Once youre done scouting, ripcord back to your base (target base with B then rip with R). Now you can either climb into a fighter and defend your miners (find where they are by bringing up the mini map and looking for the shovel), stay at home, scout some more, or just see what others are doing and follow them around.
Just as a test, runs fine at 1024x768 on a Kyro2 for crisakes. Radeon 9500 should be happy as a clam chewing on it at MUCH higher resolutions, both effective and real, than that.
I have a cable modem and airport extreme router.
Could you be a little more specific as to what I gotta do? What docs?
How do I map the ports?
As to my system specs I have windows 2000pro running on:
Product name Genuine Intel® Pentium® 4 processor based system
Board model Genuine Intel® D845PEBT2 system board
OS version Windows* 2000 version 5.0 Service Pack 3 build 2195
OS memory 523,056 KB RAM
***********************************************************
Processor
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Processor Genuine Intel® Pentium® 4 processor
Processor speed 2.40B GHz
Bus speed 533 MHz
***********************************************************
System
Physical memory 512 MB RAM
Memory speed DDR 266
Memory type DDR, Synchronous
Form factor DIMM
Its only 33MB, I got it in an hour.
Go to <a href='http://docs.alleg.net' target='_blank'>http://docs.alleg.net</a> then Connectivity Issues. Basically you need to forward DirectX 7 ports you your machine, and if the range is too large (102 ports) then you need to narrow it down with DXPort.
Oh, and someone was asking about Training Mission 7 - you need to have the server installed for that to work.
Spunky
[edit] I have a DSL modem (no router) using a standard NIC configuration [/edit]
i use sovlogin to connect and it launches allegience
i then go to free games and then 'current listings' but then it quits with a windows error 'cannot read memory' crap like that
help please? thx
edit: i went to free games, not lan. neither worked
Basically you need to forward DirectX 7 ports you your machine, and if the range is too large (102 ports) then you need to narrow it down with DXPort.
Oh, and someone was asking about Training Mission 7 - you need to have the server installed for that to work.
Spunky <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for all the help but I still don't understand exactly what to do. I followed the instructions at that link and DXDIAG says allegiance is using DX7 which means(according to that page)that I need the following ports open:
Initial TCP Connection 47624 Outbound 47624 Inbound
Subsequent TCP Inbound 2300-2400 2300-2400
Subsequent TCP Outbound 2300-2400 2300-2400
Subsequent UDP Inbound 2300-2400 2300-2400
Subsequent UDP Outbound 2300-2400 2300-2400
Right?
Ok, so what do I do with that info. A step by step explanation would helpfulcuz I have no experience opening ports.
I did download DXport, and started it. I entered 2300 at start port, and then entered 2400 for stop port. Next I hit update. It then gave me a list of all the ports from 2300 to 2400 and said Available UDP/TCP. I left the program running and tried to connect and still had no luck.
i went to both, lan disconnected me from game immediately, free went alright until i tried to locate current games and then a microsoft/computer error [not connection or anything]
i can take a screenshot if you like?
but its worth a go
hence help me ;P
I can connect to the lobby just fine.
Every time I try to join an actual game... boom, fails THERE.
DirectPlay ports, TCP and UDP, even the 'server' ports, are set up correctly through the Linux 2.4.x NAT box.
System is WinXP, newest video card drivers, tried reinstalling DirectX 9.0a and that didn't help. What's goign on here, and what else needs to be mapped? Normally, I'm the one folks go to for help on this, so it's double-annoying. =-.-= I just can't figure out the problem. :-P
somebody [cough.. not me... cough...] should make a huge FAQ/help doc <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Now, I have no idea what eediot's problem is. Never encountered or heard of anything of the sort. Sorry. Again, someone else on AHQ might be able to help.
Wolf, crash (exception violation in SOVLogin) on joining the actual game is a sure sign that you didn't apply the patch. I haven't encountered another reason so far.
Melkor, you have to setup your router to forward those ports to your gaming machine. It depends on the actual router - could be a web interface (you type <a href='http://192.168.1.1' target='_blank'>http://192.168.1.1</a> or whatever your routers IP is in your browser), could be a telnet interface, could be a utility. Either google for it or post your router model on AHQ. What you'll eventually end up doing is telling the router to send TCP and UDP conection on those ports to the internal IP address of your game machine. Some routers cannot forward all 102 ports involved because they don't have an option to enter a range (instead each individual port has to be forwarded one by one) - that's where DXPort comes in. It reduces the number of ports needed from 102 to 10 or less.
Silencer, when you are having the problem, do a tracert www.alleg.net. The last few hops before it times out should look like this:
16 130 ms 70 ms 150 ms srp1-0.rlghnca-rtr1.nc.rr.com [66.26.33.179]
17 100 ms 130 ms 70 ms srp4-0.rlghncg-rtr1.nc.rr.com [66.26.33.167]
18 160 ms 210 ms 100 ms srp1-0.rlghncj-ubr2.nc.rr.com [24.25.1.150]
If you can't get that far, it's an intermittent router outage somewhere along the way. Nothing can be done.
Hm, did I miss anything?
Spunky
Been in the game several times already, although now one concern i have:
During the evenings at least there seems to be absolutely no one on. Played in one game earlier with about 30 people, now can't find any active games. Is this normal? Or am I using an outdated server or something?
before they were in hte night, in their free time, and now theyre sleeping
its hard, i know, but u have to make allowances for that