Where is XBox Version Now?

MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
Hi.

I have been playing SN on pc for a couple of years now. Today I am taking delivery of an XBox One X. Whilst I know that SN has not been specificaily enhanced for the XB1X capabilities, can somebody tell me where the XBox version is with updates, compared to the PC version? Is the XB version behind or at the same update as PC?

Thank you.

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  • SnailsAttackSnailsAttack Join Date: 2017-02-09 Member: 227749Members Posts: 428 Advanced user
    I believe it's currently on the same update. Definitely no longer as far behind as it was a few months ago, haha.
  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    I believe it's currently on the same update. Definitely no longer as far behind as it was a few months ago, haha.

    Cool, thanks Snails. Once the console arrives and is set up I’ll head over to FD and purchase it.
    SnailsAttack
  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    edited January 5
    KK, I have XBox 1X, and have purchased, downloaded and installed SN.

    Hmmm... I am playing on an XB1X, on a 55” 4K HDTV ... I expected the graphics and performance to be better than this. Perhaps I was spoiled by the quality of the PC version, but this XB version is awful in comparison. I am in the safe shallows and the smoothness of game sometimes lags for a brief half-second, just as the PC version used to. The image is not as sharp as the PC version and the quality of the anti-aliasing is pretty poor, no matter what option I use.

    Oh well, it’s still in development I guess, so hopefully it will improve.
    SnailsAttack
  • DRxShockzDRxShockz US Join Date: 2015-08-07 Member: 206879Members Posts: 14 Fully active user
    Will there be a Xbox one x enhancement update in the future?
  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    DRxShockz wrote: »
    Will there be a Xbox one x enhancement update in the future?

    Yes I would like to see this game use the full potential of the XB1X on a 4K TV :)
  • Racer1Racer1 Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9615Members Posts: 1,572 Advanced user
    XB will never run in 4K on the XBX - it isn't powerful enough. It will still run "better" than the XB1 though.
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members Posts: 4,256 Advanced user
    Racer1 wrote: »
    XB will never run in 4K on the XBX - it isn't powerful enough. It will still run "better" than the XB1 though.

    Maybe 2K? xD It's still better than 1080p.. barely.


    Honestly, you really should take a look here before deciding you want 4K anything: https://designcompaniesranked.com/resources/is-this-retina/

    If you put your size of display in, and it's "retina" at your normal viewing distance in 1080p (which is 1920x1080), then you don't need 4K (3840x2160). Retina meaning the human eye can't distinguish the pixels.

    Most people would need either a huge display, or to be using their display from right in front of them, to benefit from 4K over 1080p resolution.

    Or course, there's other factors, such as refresh rate, response time, HDR, etc etc etc, so you mind end up benefiting from a 4K anyways if you can't find a cheaper 1080p display that has all the other features you want.
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  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    Racer1 wrote: »
    XB will never run in 4K on the XBX - it isn't powerful enough. It will still run "better" than the XB1 though.

    Not sure if im reading this wrong but it makes no sense. “XBox will never run in 4K on the XBox One X (I assume XBX means XBox One X).
  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    0x6A7232 wrote: »
    Racer1 wrote: »
    XB will never run in 4K on the XBX - it isn't powerful enough. It will still run "better" than the XB1 though
    Most people would need either a huge display, or to be using their display from right in front of them, to benefit from 4K over 1080p resolution.

    Utter nonsense. Sorry don't mean to offend but you are talking nonsense. I assume you've never played, for example, an enhanced for XBox1X game, such as Elite Dangerous, on XBox1X on a 4K TV, a game which has 1080 and 4K resolution graphics options. If you had you'd see a marked difference between the two. Its not a mind blowing difference ill grant you. But there is certainly a marked difference.
    0x6A7232
  • SeanKHSeanKH Severn, MD Join Date: 2016-10-20 Member: 223263Members Posts: 10 Fully active user
    Once final version is released for Xbox, will performance issues be corrected? Right now, areas still struggle to load as you approach them. I would really hate to see this wonderful game suffer from lag and other performance issues after final release because the Xbox hardware just can't handle it. Please, someone reassure me, please?
    Myrm
  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    SeanKH wrote: »
    Once final version is released for Xbox, will performance issues be corrected? Right now, areas still struggle to load as you approach them. I would really hate to see this wonderful game suffer from lag and other performance issues after final release because the Xbox hardware just can't handle it. Please, someone reassure me, please?


    I notice this too on the XBox One X, which is supposed to be the most powerful of the current consoles.
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members Posts: 4,256 Advanced user
    edited January 17
    Myrm wrote: »
    0x6A7232 wrote: »
    Racer1 wrote: »
    XB will never run in 4K on the XBX - it isn't powerful enough. It will still run "better" than the XB1 though
    Most people would need either a huge display, or to be using their display from right in front of them, to benefit from 4K over 1080p resolution.

    Utter nonsense. Sorry don't mean to offend but you are talking nonsense. I assume you've never played, for example, an enhanced for XBox1X game, such as Elite Dangerous, on XBox1X on a 4K TV, a game which has 1080 and 4K resolution graphics options. If you had you'd see a marked difference between the two. Its not a mind blowing difference ill grant you. But there is certainly a marked difference.

    You would certainly notice the difference standing in front of the display. But you would need to enter that viewing distance in your calculation. Either that, or the display was like 70+ inches. You're saying you can see the difference from a normal viewing distance (8+ feet) on a normal sized (30-60 inches) between 1080p and 4K? The only difference you should notice, is a massive drop in framerate as the GPU struggles to keep up.

    Retina is Apple's trademark for a display so sharp that the human eye is unable to distinguish between pixels at a typical viewing distance.

    As Steve Jobs said:
    It turns out there’s a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch, that when you hold something around to 10 to 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina to differentiate the pixels." Given a large enough viewing distance, all displays eventually become "retina."


    EDIT: I should say, if you're talking about a PC + Monitor and not a PC / Console + TV, then you'll definitely notice 4K for any display over about 15" (assuming you sit about 2' away from the screen).
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  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members Posts: 4,256 Advanced user
    Myrm wrote: »
    SeanKH wrote: »
    Once final version is released for Xbox, will performance issues be corrected? Right now, areas still struggle to load as you approach them. I would really hate to see this wonderful game suffer from lag and other performance issues after final release because the Xbox hardware just can't handle it. Please, someone reassure me, please?


    I notice this too on the XBox One X, which is supposed to be the most powerful of the current consoles.

    It's the hard disk. Most power console, and they stick a 5400RPM hard disk in it. However, this will eventually be corrected with optimization.
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  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    0x6A7232 wrote: »
    It's the hard disk. Most power console, and they stick a 5400RPM hard disk in it. However, this will eventually be corrected with optimization.

    Could I attach a USB external SSD drive to the XBox 1 X and install games on that?
  • Racer1Racer1 Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9615Members Posts: 1,572 Advanced user
    edited 3:44AM
    If you replace the XBox One (X) HDD with an SSD, it would noticeably help loading times (including hitching between areas).

    Over the last few months, UWE has made significant improvements to the preloading process to mitigate these problems with slower drives. However, this kind of optimization can only help so much - and it is doubtful we will see more than minor additional improvements to this issue before 1.0 final is released on XBox.

    P.S. USB 3.0 external drive will never be as fast as an internal drive, but an external SSD over USB might have minor improvement over an internal 5400rpm HDD - no guarantees there.
  • 0x6A72320x6A7232 US Join Date: 2016-10-06 Member: 222906Members Posts: 4,256 Advanced user
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    Myrm wrote: »
    0x6A7232 wrote: »
    It's the hard disk. Most power console, and they stick a 5400RPM hard disk in it. However, this will eventually be corrected with optimization.

    Could I attach a USB external SSD drive to the XBox 1 X and install games on that?

    Yes. Make sure it's USB 3.0, and SSD is much better than a 7200RPM HDD, and that is noticeably better than 5400RPM.

    @Racer1 That's true of SATA-3 (6 Gbps) vs USB 3.0 (5 Gbps), but just barely. USB 3.1 is 10 Gbps, however (but the XB1X does not have USB 3.1 ports, and you'd also need USB 3.1 enclosure for the drive). However, now you also have SATA-3.2 at 16 Gbps, etc etc, and let's not forget USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 at 20 Gbps.. lol

    TL;DR: it really, really depends on the standards of the equipment used. Xbox internal HDD is 5400 RPM over a SATA 3 interface, IIRC, plus it's got USB 3.0 ports, so it's really easy to improve on that.

    If you want to skim (or read) all the cool specs on the different generations of ATA and USB tech, read up here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
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  • MyrmMyrm Sweden Join Date: 2015-08-16 Member: 207210Members Posts: 1,039 Advanced user
    edited 8:31AM
    Thanks for the advice 0x6A7232 and Racer1 :smile:

    I looked at some 1TB external USB 3/3.1 SSD. Woah, they are costly! 3300+ SEK :o

    Think I will stick with the default drive it has. It plays Elite Dangerous vary well.
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