I know that may sound naive, but can't you solve the Spambot problem by a good "I am not a Robot"-check? Or are those already obsulete nowadays? You could use one at the registration and maybe for a new thread until you reached a certain amount of posts maybe?
IIRC, yes that solves bots registering. It doesn't solve people registering and then handing control of the account over to a bot. You'd have to put a check (probably re-CAPTCHA) on the login itself, and that still wouldn't work if you told it to stay logged in.
OK, perhaps have re-CAPTCHA for all accounts AND disable "stay logged in" options, up to the 30-day mark. Would that zap'em?
I dunno how the spam bots work but I wonder if the forum software would allow for changing a button to text with an onclick so bots can't tell what the actual create thread button is
@AceDude can we solve this problem for people by 'Verifying' them if they don't have the >100 posts and 30 days requirement?
I don't get that. What do you mean?
If you click on 'Not Verified' on someone's profile it'll change to 'Verified', I believe to bypass any pre-moderation/spam filters. It may not be a problem now you've relaxed the rule though
And I tried to edit a new discussion I just created within 240s and got another blasted spam block. And I can't save the editted post until another 600s passes. And again when I tried to edit an initial post within 240s of saving the previous edit. I checked and the edit gets saved (which isn't apparent).
And I tried to edit a new discussion I just created within 240s and got another blasted spam block. And I can't save the editted post until another 600s passes. And again when I tried to edit an initial post within 240s of saving the previous edit.
Is it really blocked?
I've gotten that message but have found upon refreshing the page that the edit went through anyway.
Yeah I just got the notification about having posted yada yada and waiting 600 seconds. Hit save again, message was still there, then hit back, refresh, change was applied.
What I can't understand is this. After 1 day and 1 comment, I can make a new thread. Right? But I can't edit my own posts? How can that possibly have to do anything with spambots? It is like protection against some spam bot that would start one thread, and then continuously edit the main post? Why not just spam new threads then? Which is something they can do.
Honestly, this is extremely mind boggling to me. As someone who wants to update their initial post, so I don't have to spam useless comments like "Hey guys, I did a minor update to my model, check it out", this sounds just the exact opposite of what you guys are trying to avoid. It just creates more spam.
And the 100 message limit for free edits? Who came up with that number. I personally speak only when I have something to say, so 100 messages can mean months for me. At least give me some alternative way for me to verify im not a spambot. Maybe after 100 reactions? That way, I wont have to spam 100 useless messages, but maybe only 10 that actually say something worth "liking/disliking/awesoming".
I know that may sound naive, but can't you solve the Spambot problem by a good "I am not a Robot"-check? Or are those already obsulete nowadays? You could use one at the registration and maybe for a new thread until you reached a certain amount of posts maybe?
IIRC, yes that solves bots registering. It doesn't solve people registering and then handing control of the account over to a bot. You'd have to put a check (probably re-CAPTCHA) on the login itself, and that still wouldn't work if you told it to stay logged in.
OK, perhaps have re-CAPTCHA for all accounts AND disable "stay logged in" options, up to the 30-day mark. Would that zap'em?
Some forums have a CAPTCHA always when posting or editing. Maybe that?
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
Not your problem; just compile a list of edits and PM every so often. It'd probably be easier to just post the edits as a new post in the thread, and ask for it to be merged into the OP by @mentioning the mods.
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
Not your problem; just compile a list of edits and PM every so often. It'd probably be easier to just post the edits as a new post in the thread, and ask for it to be merged into the OP by @mentioning the mods.
Nah, I was a moderator of a forum once. Mods are for moderating, not for being my servants
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
Not your problem; just compile a list of edits and PM every so often. It'd probably be easier to just post the edits as a new post in the thread, and ask for it to be merged into the OP by @mentioning the mods.
Nah, I was a moderator of a forum once. Mods are for moderating, not for being my servants
They said they didn't mind editing OPs within reason, and it's not like they'll be bombarded, as anyone with > 100 posts and a month old user account shouldn't need help. Eh, just add what you need by quoting the OP and adding it to the thread. It'll help get your postcount up, as well.
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
Not your problem; just compile a list of edits and PM every so often. It'd probably be easier to just post the edits as a new post in the thread, and ask for it to be merged into the OP by @mentioning the mods.
Nah, I was a moderator of a forum once. Mods are for moderating, not for being my servants
They said they didn't mind editing OPs within reason, and it's not like they'll be bombarded, as anyone with > 100 posts and a month old user account shouldn't need help. Eh, just add what you need by quoting the OP and adding it to the thread. It'll help get your postcount up, as well.
I think you probably just proved that your aren't a spambot.
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
Not your problem; just compile a list of edits and PM every so often. It'd probably be easier to just post the edits as a new post in the thread, and ask for it to be merged into the OP by @mentioning the mods.
Nah, I was a moderator of a forum once. Mods are for moderating, not for being my servants
They said they didn't mind editing OPs within reason, and it's not like they'll be bombarded, as anyone with > 100 posts and a month old user account shouldn't need help. Eh, just add what you need by quoting the OP and adding it to the thread. It'll help get your postcount up, as well.
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IIRC, yes that solves bots registering. It doesn't solve people registering and then handing control of the account over to a bot. You'd have to put a check (probably re-CAPTCHA) on the login itself, and that still wouldn't work if you told it to stay logged in.
OK, perhaps have re-CAPTCHA for all accounts AND disable "stay logged in" options, up to the 30-day mark. Would that zap'em?
I don't get that. What do you mean?
I think they mean some sort of super-CAPTCHA if the account is under 100 posts and 30 days existence.
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If you click on 'Not Verified' on someone's profile it'll change to 'Verified', I believe to bypass any pre-moderation/spam filters. It may not be a problem now you've relaxed the rule though
Is it really blocked?
I've gotten that message but have found upon refreshing the page that the edit went through anyway.
This may be the only option for now till They figure out something else?
Though it seems that other options involve Them having to Manually/Visually edit each post in some manner, which is probably a non-starter.
nvm... after i posted this comment it told me i was promoted to reg user and i can post now... wot?!?!? u gotta tell us this so we understand.
It's worth sucking up a minor inconvenience or two.
I completely agree.
Also, why are these people waiting their ad revenue on forums who don't speak their language?
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Honestly, this is extremely mind boggling to me. As someone who wants to update their initial post, so I don't have to spam useless comments like "Hey guys, I did a minor update to my model, check it out", this sounds just the exact opposite of what you guys are trying to avoid. It just creates more spam.
And the 100 message limit for free edits? Who came up with that number. I personally speak only when I have something to say, so 100 messages can mean months for me. At least give me some alternative way for me to verify im not a spambot. Maybe after 100 reactions? That way, I wont have to spam 100 useless messages, but maybe only 10 that actually say something worth "liking/disliking/awesoming".
Some forums have a CAPTCHA always when posting or editing. Maybe that?
Not In the eyes of the forum tho. I mean, we both know Im not a spammer, but that doesn't elevate my to "non-spammer" category
If you PM the mods AceDude or Foxy whenever you need edits, they'll realize soon enough, as far as I know there's a way to manually override the user category.
I already asked one of them, if I could be elevated to the "normal" use faster, they declined. PMing them every time I need a edit is borderline being a passive-aggressive asshole
Not your problem; just compile a list of edits and PM every so often. It'd probably be easier to just post the edits as a new post in the thread, and ask for it to be merged into the OP by @mentioning the mods.
Nah, I was a moderator of a forum once. Mods are for moderating, not for being my servants
They said they didn't mind editing OPs within reason, and it's not like they'll be bombarded, as anyone with > 100 posts and a month old user account shouldn't need help. Eh, just add what you need by quoting the OP and adding it to the thread. It'll help get your postcount up, as well.
We'll see :P