Two issues 1) extreme lag then crashing 2) floor is gone in part of Aurora

bzald · December 2016

So before the last update it seemed to work just fine, after the update the lag started i thought well that sort of normal but then i got to Aurora and was past the both part of the Prawn room was going to crew part but noticed no floor all see through. So i tested if i could walk on it, i fell into the water which seemed to be working but that is when i realized that i was trapped so i went back in seen the floor was still see through and left. Now that I have been traveling around some the lag has been happening more and now i am crashing this makes the fifth time. So I'm going to take a break it seems like there is a bug or something not working at the moment, I will try to include all the info down below.

http://pastebin.com/2weNYDfA

That is the output log txt

http://pastebin.com/ZksLpr0K

DxDiag

Pictures of the floor that not a floor

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzDm24W0JtJldW5IanpVN3c4dEU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzDm24W0JtJlLUk4bHJQVkltcUk/view?usp=sharing

Edit:

The main harddrive is a soildstate drive I dont have the spec's on me right now

The drive with all the games is a external harddrive that 5 TB

I had to do this because in the past things would crash or kill the main computer and that it no games, programs nothing this way if the computer dies games still alive same with external drive as well so it is almost impossible for a total fail state to take place.

Crewman87 · December 2016

@bzald You can try clearing your terrain cache. This usually helps me fix the lag for good while until it starts again, which at that time I continue to clear it. Downside is it will repopulate the world and anything you've changed.

Myrm · December 2016

Crewman87 wrote: »

@bzald You can try clearing your terrain cache.

How is this done?

bzald · December 2016

hmm i will look into that as well Crewman87 but like Myrm this is something I'm not familiar with at all with that said, I have updated my spec's not sure if the two harddrives where included.

Crewman87 · December 2016

http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/146057/an-updated-guide-fix-crashes-lag-stuttering-and-keep-your-saves-through-subnautica-upgrades

0x6A7232 introduced the solution to my knowledge. The devs have said this can be a temporary work around for now, but gave caution in doing so. The fix itself is aimed more at continuing save files after major updates, however it seems to work with "resetting" the world and repopulating. For me this has helped, but I find myself doing it 3 - 4 times a day. There is a batch file in 0x6A7232's signature if you need to do it frequently.

Nachoman · December 2016

Theres another workaround. The lag is caused 100% entirely by the amount of resources you have picked up throughout your playtime in the world, the more resources youve collected, the worse it gets. You can use the console cheat commands (press f3 then f8 to activate mouse cursor, click the box top left of screen to activate it then just press enter in game to enter cheats,) to spawn yourself items or to remove building costs, doing this will allow you to play a full lag free game where you can cheat as much/ as little as you want, just start a new game and either take notes of the resources you would be collecting and then spawn yourself the according amount of items etc. this will allow you to play completely lag free and go anywhere in the game world without problems, I have a low end 5 year old pc and doing this I can play the game just fine, started a new game spent a full 90 minutes making a massive base, have 2 cyclops and prawns and seamoths, been to all the wrecks and precursor bases and not a single crash from a new play file done in this method.

Nachoman · December 2016

The only items ive picked up in that playthrough were items in the chests found on and near the Aurora, plus scanning blueprints, not one crash in a good 12 hours of play like this.

Crewman87 · December 2016

Well, that is interesting. Maybe I will just play around with creative mode for awhile. I hope they are able to work it out soon.

Nachoman · December 2016

You can play survival with cheats essentially is creative mode with storyline. Just saying.

Crewman87 · December 2016

I haven't started what I previously mentioned, however I did notice that I have considerably much less stuttering when inside a base. The moment I hit the water, instant stuttering. Not sure if it is relevant but hey, its something lol.

0x6A7232 · December 2016

Nachoman wrote: »

Theres another workaround. The lag is caused 100% entirely by the amount of resources you have picked up throughout your playtime in the world, the more resources youve collected, the worse it gets. You can use the console cheat commands (press f3 then f8 to activate mouse cursor, click the box top left of screen to activate it then just press enter in game to enter cheats,) to spawn yourself items or to remove building costs, doing this will allow you to play a full lag free game where you can cheat as much/ as little as you want, just start a new game and either take notes of the resources you would be collecting and then spawn yourself the according amount of items etc. this will allow you to play completely lag free and go anywhere in the game world without problems, I have a low end 5 year old pc and doing this I can play the game just fine, started a new game spent a full 90 minutes making a massive base, have 2 cyclops and prawns and seamoths, been to all the wrecks and precursor bases and not a single crash from a new play file done in this method.

I quoted this in my cache cleaning guide so that people are aware, thanks for confirming (explains why my son can spam things in creative mode on Xbox 1 all day and still not lag terribly bad even though most people get to an unplayable state kind of quickly on XB1).

bzald · December 2016

0x6A7232 wrote: »

Nachoman wrote: »

Theres another workaround. The lag is caused 100% entirely by the amount of resources you have picked up throughout your playtime in the world, the more resources youve collected, the worse it gets. You can use the console cheat commands (press f3 then f8 to activate mouse cursor, click the box top left of screen to activate it then just press enter in game to enter cheats,) to spawn yourself items or to remove building costs, doing this will allow you to play a full lag free game where you can cheat as much/ as little as you want, just start a new game and either take notes of the resources you would be collecting and then spawn yourself the according amount of items etc. this will allow you to play completely lag free and go anywhere in the game world without problems, I have a low end 5 year old pc and doing this I can play the game just fine, started a new game spent a full 90 minutes making a massive base, have 2 cyclops and prawns and seamoths, been to all the wrecks and precursor bases and not a single crash from a new play file done in this method.

I quoted this in my cache cleaning guide so that people are aware, thanks for confirming (explains why my son can spam things in creative mode on Xbox 1 all day and still not lag terribly bad even though most people get to an unplayable state kind of quickly on XB1).

Thanks to both of you i will look into that and see what happens on the lag crashing, it might be because i have not built a base until recently and have several containers full just floating. So would putting them in lockers in base, or using them in construction stop that? Also does that prohibit large bases? Thanks for all the help

EDIT: ok that seems to be working im dumping my stuff in storage out of the under water containers and it seems a little less laggy

bzald · December 2016

Crewman87 wrote: »

http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/146057/an-updated-guide-fix-crashes-lag-stuttering-and-keep-your-saves-through-subnautica-upgrades

0x6A7232 introduced the solution to my knowledge. The devs have said this can be a temporary work around for now, but gave caution in doing so. The fix itself is aimed more at continuing save files after major updates, however it seems to work with "resetting" the world and repopulating. For me this has helped, but I find myself doing it 3 - 4 times a day. There is a batch file in 0x6A7232's signature if you need to do it frequently.

I actually start over after each major update so i can use the new stuff so that would not be it for me but thanks

Crewman87 · December 2016

bzald wrote: »

Crewman87 wrote: »

http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/146057/an-updated-guide-fix-crashes-lag-stuttering-and-keep-your-saves-through-subnautica-upgrades

0x6A7232 introduced the solution to my knowledge. The devs have said this can be a temporary work around for now, but gave caution in doing so. The fix itself is aimed more at continuing save files after major updates, however it seems to work with "resetting" the world and repopulating. For me this has helped, but I find myself doing it 3 - 4 times a day. There is a batch file in 0x6A7232's signature if you need to do it frequently.

I actually start over after each major update so i can use the new stuff so that would not be it for me but thanks

I understand, however it does help to reduce some of the issues we've been having lately. I can confirm as well that the other solution seems much more attractive at this point. Was messing about in a new game and I have had 0 performance issues. Hopefully whatever causes this is gone soon.

Myrm · December 2016

Nachoman wrote: »

Theres another workaround. The lag is caused 100% entirely by the amount of resources you have picked up throughout your playtime in the world, the more resources youve collected, the worse it gets.

What evidence do you have to support such a bold staetment in which you say 100% of the lag proplems are caused by the number of resources picked up throughout the game. I don't mean to be rude but that sounds like a load of nonsense to me, but I would be interested in seeing the evidence you have for this "100%" claim.

bzald · December 2016

bzald · December 2016

Crewman87 wrote: »

bzald wrote: »

Crewman87 wrote: »

http://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/146057/an-updated-guide-fix-crashes-lag-stuttering-and-keep-your-saves-through-subnautica-upgrades

0x6A7232 introduced the solution to my knowledge. The devs have said this can be a temporary work around for now, but gave caution in doing so. The fix itself is aimed more at continuing save files after major updates, however it seems to work with "resetting" the world and repopulating. For me this has helped, but I find myself doing it 3 - 4 times a day. There is a batch file in 0x6A7232's signature if you need to do it frequently.

I actually start over after each major update so i can use the new stuff so that would not be it for me but thanks

I understand, however it does help to reduce some of the issues we've been having lately. I can confirm as well that the other solution seems much more attractive at this point. Was messing about in a new game and I have had 0 performance issues. Hopefully whatever causes this is gone soon.

My apologies, i mean the save file being the issue since i start over each major update there no save file, so i may of missed typed this part and suppose to put in i was going to try this since the save file would not effect me.

Crewman87 · December 2016

@bzald It's no worry. Since you have a new game it isn't as effective. This is better for when you have had a save for awhile and the stuttering gets worse and worse. So far not picking up resources I need has kept the game stable. I feel like it's cheaty, but hey, at least I am playing right? lol.

Two issues 1) extreme lag then crashing 2) floor is gone in part of Aurora

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