<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Jan 9 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jan 9 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->thats right.. the powerloader just looks slow...i mean..hey..this movie is damn old <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> this special effect works with pneumatics..hydraulics..and cables.. thats why it looks slow..at this time they havent such neat computer special effects like we have today... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> anyway..the powerloader is just the basic model..the alice is much more advanced<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> As a note, the 'powerloader' from the Aliens films was based on a real, existing, piece of industrial machinery. The difference between reality and fiction? The real thing can't walk while carrying a load, it can between mooring points in the floor though, but then it's stationary while 'in use' at that point. And that, purely due to lack of true balance control. :-)
It wasn't a special effect, that damn thing is real. Though the actual 'driving compartment' is even further back than shown, in reality the person 'in view' wasn't driving, because it really does take weeks and weeks of training to be able to use one.
This is really really awesome. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Great job, m?lady.
thank you for that info <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> ive seen some very interresting set pics where ucan see that the powerloader is actually mounted on the tip of an bucket excavator,in the queen fight scene ,where ripley moves out of the loaderhangar u cant see the heavy equipment behind the loader,cause theres to much haze..and.. the antennas are fakes,they just covering some cables that are hangin from the ceiling,to stabilize the loader
That is certainly the ubersecks. As with catarina, women make the best models. And units like the powerloader are extremely difficult to operate. Ive used a mechanical loader arm a few times and it takes 3 joysticks for one arm.
daphisto finish the model....it looks much cooler then my concept,check it out <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=19292' target='_blank'>Daphistos Malice</a>
im just bored all the day <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
so exactly WHEN are we gonna be downloading this cause u guys keep saying its finished..so yeah.. O.o <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
ya great model...but do you know how bad it's gonna look inside a vent? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
its not finished.. and i fear my version never gets finished..cause i have no clue about compiling...ar animating... ive given the alice model to daphisto.. he will finish it....
the malice looks in the vent like the normal heavy armor..it got the same size.. i mean its all inside the hitboxes.. btw..crawling trough vents with heavyarmor isnt very sexy... shooting with a fade pilebombs in a vent where a stupid heavy armor dood is in, is sexy...
ok again.. i cant finish that model,the existing model is just a concept ,very messy,very high pk, and not optimized for animation.. if someone wants to make a model out of my idea its ok <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> cause i want it too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> daphistos version is cool too...it got some logical errors...buts a very good layout.. i like the idea with the free hand...this way the armor wearer can operate switches and stuff...maybe the arm needs a little bit armor
I'm going to make a yellow reskin when it comes out though, to look like the powerloader <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
And I had no idea that the one in aliens was real, i just thought it was a big hunk of plastic light enough to be moved by the actor, lol!
actually it was so heavy they needet hydraulic actuators to move it.... and the whole construction was mounted on the tip of an excavator instead of the shovel... the whole thing was additionaly stabilized with cables from the ceiling (maybe a crane) the scenes where you only can see the upper body and backside,but not the feets are done with the powerloader fixed on a rotatin plattform.. in another scene they use a different powerloader without feets,the loader hangs with cables from the ceiling...in the poweloader self was another actor controling the arms .. i got a nice screenshot where u can see the feets of thesecond actor <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> the scenes where u see the whole thing from the side walking are stop motion effects with models..
Lol, that's pretty funny, although I am kinda sad that they dont actually exist. It was always a dream of mine to own one, or at least a working prop <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
lol why do you want to have a working prop? even the non workin powerloader is amazin <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
If you need someone to compile it, send it to me. I can put it on the HA skeleton and animations, although it might have to wait till the end of the week, depending on what i have to do for class. If you want to, post here and ill PM you my email.
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that thing is frickin sweet
a total mod for HA
As a note, the 'powerloader' from the Aliens films was based on a real, existing, piece of industrial machinery. The difference between reality and fiction? The real thing can't walk while carrying a load, it can between mooring points in the floor though, but then it's stationary while 'in use' at that point. And that, purely due to lack of true balance control. :-)
It wasn't a special effect, that damn thing is real. Though the actual 'driving compartment' is even further back than shown, in reality the person 'in view' wasn't driving, because it really does take weeks and weeks of training to be able to use one.
ive seen some very interresting set pics where ucan see that the powerloader is actually mounted on the tip of an bucket excavator,in the queen fight scene ,where ripley moves out of the loaderhangar u cant see the heavy equipment behind the loader,cause theres to much haze..and.. the antennas are fakes,they just covering some cables that are hangin from the ceiling,to stabilize the loader
All the pretty colors <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
Keep up the awesome work!
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<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=19292' target='_blank'>Daphistos Malice</a>
Onegai, Sheena-sama!
the malice looks in the vent like the normal heavy armor..it got the same size.. i mean its all inside the hitboxes.. btw..crawling trough vents with heavyarmor isnt very sexy... shooting with a fade pilebombs in a vent where a stupid heavy armor dood is in, is sexy...
ok again.. i cant finish that model,the existing model is just a concept ,very messy,very high pk, and not optimized for animation..
if someone wants to make a model out of my idea its ok <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> cause i want it too <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> daphistos version is cool too...it got some logical errors...buts a very good layout.. i like the idea with the free hand...this way the armor wearer can operate switches and stuff...maybe the arm needs a little bit armor
I'm going to make a yellow reskin when it comes out though, to look like the powerloader <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
And I had no idea that the one in aliens was real, i just thought it was a big hunk of plastic light enough to be moved by the actor, lol!
the scenes where you only can see the upper body and backside,but not the feets are done with the powerloader fixed on a rotatin plattform..
in another scene they use a different powerloader without feets,the loader hangs with cables from the ceiling...in the poweloader self was another actor controling the arms .. i got a nice screenshot where u can see the feets of thesecond actor <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
the scenes where u see the whole thing from the side walking are stop motion effects with models..