Say Hello To The Colonial Marines

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  • KamakazieKamakazie Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9958Members
    hey didnt the German Fox say it was ok??? I mean isnt that good enough <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • HF-SnkeHF-Snke Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10023Members
    plz we all want the models!!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    in an other thread they have converted or they will convert master chief from halo for ns!!

    there for where is the problem??
  • Bird_of_PreyBird_of_Prey Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7741Members
    hmmm... wont that mean only Germany is O.K with it? Im not sure if its still alright with the states though...
  • ctxctx Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4592Members
    I'll probably just convert them myself...I know how...
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    Personally I'm just amazed this thread is still going. When was it DirtyJ said he wouldn't release without permission? Page 3?
  • Dun_LeavyDun_Leavy Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9953Members
    He's a little b!tch thats why. ctx, I say you go for it. You would have alot of fans of yours if you did convert them. email the model files to me if you do. I will host them for you. (aadrumma94@aol.com)
  • Power-LinePower-Line Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6920Members
    ctx you go, i got banned for like 2 weeks for the runner tho, but ill back yu up, ill fight for your unbannedment if it happens
  • ctxctx Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4592Members
    edited November 2002
    2 weeks banishment...ouch...

    Well...I dont want Flayra and the dev team in trouble...If I do it...I wont mention it on the boards...privately maybe...
  • Ir0nFr3nzyIr0nFr3nzy Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7840Members
    im gonna fart <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> ~~(pffft)
  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    This copyright bs is just funny IMO.

    Look at all the other models in other mods that people have converted from other games, they didn't get sued or arrested now did they?

    But anyways, i'm not the boss of Dirty_J...if I was...then..hmm..nevermind..jk heheh
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  • JrakosikJrakosik Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8098Members
    if you need hosting, i have space
    email: jrakosik@hotmail.com
    aim: jaerakosik
  • LokiiLokii Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9347Members
    Shotgun@clanstd.com

    for any hosting files under 4 MB.
  • Little_ShibbyLittle_Shibby Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9531Members
    edited November 2002
    I think he is going to wait a week or so and see if Fox responds.
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Daphisto+Nov 16 2002, 10:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Daphisto @ Nov 16 2002, 10:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They can't file a lawsuit if no financial profit is being made by you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If only that were true.

    The biggest issue here would be making sure to let everyone know, in the Readme, and everything else, that these models are the sole property of Fox, the company that made the game, and the publisher of the game. Fox, like any large company, wants to protect their creation, and they have the money to do so in a court. Most people are only doing it as a work of love, and will drop it. Not always good for the community, and may hurt Fox in those who see it happen, but it ultimately prevents you from receiving credit for their work, and/or making their product appear low quality. I assume you already wrote a letter to Fox, and if you have not yet received word back from them, I, personally, would simply post my work, when completed, and remove it if requested. Fox may nix the works of fans left and right, but they don't want to spend a single copper piece more than they need to. If they disapprove, you will receive a letter before any legal action is taken. If you refuse, then Fox gets billed by the minute by a crack team of expensive suits.

    Saying that it can be edited in some small way, and be OK, or that Fox is too big to care si the wrong stance. Fox has shown time and time again that almost nothing is too small to escape their notice. And unless you are parodying their model, changing it in some small way does not elude the laws of intellectual property theft. It sounds scary, but in changing it intentionally, it would make it look as though you consciencely took their work, and attempted to re-make it enough to pawn it off as your own.

    Again, the important thing to do here is make sure you properly and loudly credit the original creators, publishers, and copyright owners. Your decision to wait for Fox was a very mature one to make, however. I hope they respond to you soon.

    -Ryan!


    The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.
    -- H. L. Mencken
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--H'BNayr+Nov 27 2002, 01:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (H'BNayr @ Nov 27 2002, 01:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.
    -- H. L. Mencken<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OK I really need to know where all these quotes come from!

    On-Topic: Copyright/Intellectual Property is hard. If you've asked them and they haven't replied then I would assume it's OK, Send another letter to them, If they still don't reply then carry on. They cannot sue you if they don't reply and if they go to do legal action take it down and apologise.
  • KamakazieKamakazie Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9958Members
    Dirty why dont you start working on your work I doubt Fox will reply to you, and I wanna see some colonial marine modles for ns <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Dirty_JDirty_J Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6863Members
    im a little **obscenity**? how about **obscenity** you

    do it your own god damn self, i do not want to **obscenity** risk ending up in court over some stupid **obscenity** for **obscenity** arrogant **obscenity** on a **obscenity** mod message board, so **obscenity** you **obscenity** do it yourself


    i got a response from fox they said no, so therefore NO
  • Little_ShibbyLittle_Shibby Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9531Members
    edited November 2002
    oh well...they looked nice(that is the models). <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> Too bad though.
  • HammerHammer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5036Members
    Alright than J, now shut the hell up and stop responding.
  • KamakazieKamakazie Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9958Members
    Sorry damn Im just saying you have permission from fox already in german! All you got do is put them on some german webpage!
  • Sentinel1Sentinel1 Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7356Members
    Dirty forget it..Don't reply this topic is irritating...whom ever wants it..ask some 1 else Dirty_j = not doing it
  • ctxctx Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4592Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->do it your own god damn self, i do not want to **obscenity** risk ending up in court over some stupid **obscenity** for **obscenity** arrogant **obscenity** on a **obscenity** mod message board, so **obscenity** you **obscenity** do it yourself<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lmao

    I've never seen that many concentrated **obscenities**.
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    Ah well. They're were cool to look at anyways. I might convert them for myself.

    On the subject of quotes...

    "The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." -George Carlin
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