Car And Gear?

MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
<div class="IPBDescription">hmmmm</div> Ok so if im not totally wrong in america cars have automate gear, while in euro we have manual gear

Automate gear is the most expensive one

while manual is cheaper,

what would you prefer your country to use? what do you think about your countrys gear type compared to the other?

i will start by saying that automate gear is for people having trouble driving a car but maybe im biased living in europe
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Wait, there are <b>no</b> automatic cars in Europe? Wow.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2005
    Actually, you can get both in either country. Manual transmissions are more popular in Europe and auto is more common in America.

    I would say I'd keep my automatic - it's much less of a hassle to drive. I will say that MTs are more fun though. ^^
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jul 13 2005, 07:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jul 13 2005, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, you can get both in either country. Manual transmissions are more popular in Europe and auto is more common in America.

    I would say I'd keep my automatic - it's much less of a hassle to drive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Truth, though I'd go Manual just for the added control.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Cars can have automatic or manual transmissions...and I'm pretty sure that's how it works in every country <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . Manuals are harder to use, but can get you a little extra horsepower (and are often cheaper).

    If I had a car, it'd be a MT...since I just like shifting <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . Not a big fan of the clutch though.


    Pffft, I use a manual 'gear' bike <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    OMG will Talesin have a field day with this one! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    In my day all drivers education classes taught students on manuals. Manuals were much more common back then, and one could always drive an automatic if they knew how to drive a standard, but not the other way around.

    In my millions of miles of professional driving I man-handled a 10 to 12 speed manual mostly. Therefore my personal vehicles have always had an automatic in them.

    Performance would lean towards the manual as it's of lighter weight and would suffer from less slippage.

    In the U.S., fewer than 10 percent of cars are purchased with manual transmissions.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    edited July 2005
    you are all noobs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> its in no way "hard" to drive a car with manual gear, the clutch and shifting is fairly easy

    hehe depot think its the revert in europe <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> (talking about cars with gears being sold)
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Not another "I'm 1337 because I do more work to drive a car" thread.
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NumbersNotFound+Jul 13 2005, 09:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Jul 13 2005, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not another "I'm 1337 because I do more work to drive a car" thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    you were lucky this aint then, also you didnt say why its im 1337 becuase i do more work to drive a car, you didnt even quote someone, you didnt even say that you drive a automate car


    ps. i dont own a car
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NumbersNotFound+Jul 13 2005, 10:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Jul 13 2005, 10:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not another "I'm 1337 because I do more work to drive a car" thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, we're waiting for our little Talesin to start that!~ <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • kill4thrillskill4thrills Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29506Members, Constellation
    edited July 2005
    you can also get a tiptronic semi-auto gearshift now, but as a euro, you shoudl already know this... it's supposed to mix the simplicity of auto with the fancy stuff you can do with manual by letting you overide the auto tranny. costs a lot more than auto though, cause it's owned by porshe, and only they and volkswagen and audi cars have them

    if you didn't know about tiptronic you probably can't afford one
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    I like automatic transmission because I'm lazy.
    Car goes fast enough.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 14 2005, 12:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 14 2005, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like automatic transmission because I'm lazy.
    Car goes fast enough. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed. Highway speed is the fastest I need.

    Side note: the speed limit is the maximum, not the minimum. Please stop getting after people who choose to drive five miles an hour under the speed limit.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    It's always fun spotting automatic drivers who don't know how to drive properly. You can tell when a car pulls away from a traffic light with the break light still on...
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Jul 14 2005, 12:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Jul 14 2005, 12:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's always fun spotting automatic drivers who don't know how to drive properly. You can tell when a car pulls away from a traffic light with the break light still on... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    O_o

    Surely people know to drive with one foot?
  • meepmeep Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26034Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 14 2005, 12:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 14 2005, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Jul 14 2005, 12:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 14 2005, 12:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like automatic transmission because I'm lazy.
    Car goes fast enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed. Highway speed is the fastest I need.

    Side note: the speed limit is the maximum, not the minimum. Please stop getting after people who choose to drive five miles an hour under the speed limit. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Life is too short not to flip you off when you're going 50 on the highway in front of me. And hey, sometimes life is too short not to pass on the right! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    ive never driven a automatic car everyone in my family drives manual and thats what i learned
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-meep+Jul 14 2005, 03:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (meep @ Jul 14 2005, 03:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Life is too short not to flip you off when you're going 50 on the highway in front of me. And hey, sometimes life is too short not to pass on the right! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'll have a shorter life breaking the law, actually: it shaves off years from your life span (I'm serious). And what highways go through your area that are 55MPH Maximum? It's 70MPH in my area.

    Really, I think people forget that the Speed <b>Limit</b> is not the Speed <b>Requirement</b>. A speed limit of 45MPH doesn't mean everyone should go <b>at least</b> 45MPH. It means that 45MPH is the <b>fastest</b> everyone should be going.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    speed limit here is 65MPH but that doesnt stop me from going 140MPH down the freeway
  • Deus_Ex_MachinaDeus_Ex_Machina Join Date: 2004-07-01 Member: 29674Members
    Not to mention that speeding only saves you like 3 minutes on a 30 minute commute, not to mention the extra gas you use and the additional wear on your brakes and tires.

    gg speeders
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    how does 140MPH save me only 3 minutes? thats more then double my speed i save over 15 minutes! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jul 14 2005, 03:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jul 14 2005, 03:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You'll have a shorter life breaking the law, actually: it shaves off years from your life span (I'm serious). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Really, I think people forget that the Speed <b>Limit</b> is not the Speed <b>Requirement</b>. A speed limit of 45MPH doesn't mean everyone should go <b>at least</b> 45MPH. It means that 45MPH is the <b>fastest</b> everyone should be going.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, but you should be going <b>near</b> that. (Within 1-3 MPH, in my opinion) A little over, a little less, no problem. But when you start slowing down/speeding up a lot, then it's pretty dumb.
  • Mad_ManMad_Man Join Date: 2003-06-13 Member: 17359Members, Constellation
    Indeed going to slow is just as dangerous as going to fast
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    edited July 2005
    Back to being on topic as this was orginally about transmissions.

    There are actually three different transmission tyes:<ul><li>Manual(first one to appear)</li><li>Automatic(This includes the triptronic which is simply a fancier automatic)</li><li>CVT (Newest one and no longer has gear teeth)</li></ul>If you wish to read about them.. and all of their advantages and downfalls, although CVT has almost none.

    <a href='http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm' target='_blank'>Manual Transmission</a>
    <a href='http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission.htm' target='_blank'>Automatic Transmission</a>
    <a href='http://auto.howstuffworks.com/cvt.htm' target='_blank'>CVT Transmission</a>

    I'd also like to point out that most automatics today are just about as efficent as the manuals, you are only losing about 5 to 10 HP(kw or whatever you euros use) and about 10-15 ft lbs of torque. Which in a real world setting is next to nothing. (Read maybe 1 to 4 mpg better with a manual).

    In addition, most autos shift faster then any manual driver could, especially under extreme conditions (heavy acceleration onto interstate/highway).
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    yeah i remember reading about CVT a while ago i have yet to see a car that actualy has one installed tho
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    cyndane: we also say hp <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-NumbersNotFound+Jul 14 2005, 02:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Jul 14 2005, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SoulSkorpion+Jul 14 2005, 12:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Jul 14 2005, 12:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's always fun spotting automatic drivers who don't know how to drive properly. You can tell when a car pulls away from a traffic light with the break light still on... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    O_o

    Surely people know to drive with one foot? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh. Not everyone, apparently <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 13 2005, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 13 2005, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NumbersNotFound+Jul 13 2005, 10:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Jul 13 2005, 10:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not another "I'm 1337 because I do more work to drive a car" thread. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, we're waiting for our little Talesin to start that! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nah, that's the "Whatever I say is unquestionable truth, WHY ARE YOU ALL SO WRONG?" Thread.

    Tbh, there's not much difference between automatic and manual, except if you learnt to drive on an automatic, you can't legally drive a manual, whereas if you learnt to drive on a manual then there's no problem. At least, that's how I understand the situation.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+Jul 14 2005, 10:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ Jul 14 2005, 10:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Jul 13 2005, 09:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Jul 13 2005, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NumbersNotFound+Jul 13 2005, 10:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Jul 13 2005, 10:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not another "I'm 1337 because I do more work to drive a car" thread. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, we're waiting for our little Talesin to start that! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nah, that's the "Whatever I say is unquestionable truth, WHY ARE YOU ALL SO WRONG?" Thread.

    Tbh, there's not much difference between automatic and manual, except if you learnt to drive on an automatic, you can't legally drive a manual, whereas if you learnt to drive on a manual then there's no problem. At least, that's how I understand the situation.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I don't think it's a matter of legality ... it's more of a matter of a manual transmission trained driver can drive an automatic, but an automatic transmission trained driver canNOT drive a manual, at least not without a fair amount of practice. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MalkavianGirlMalkavianGirl Join Date: 2005-06-16 Member: 53967Members
    I learned to drive on an auto, but I bought a manual. I will never buy another car that is an auto. Manual is much more fun to drive, plus I find that I pay better attention to the road when I drive a manual. Yes, I do drive an auto occasionally, but it's always nice to get back to my car. And she's my baby, too.

    <!--QuoteBegin-Spacer+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...except if you learnt to drive on an automatic, you can't legally drive a manual, whereas if you learnt to drive on a manual then there's no problem.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I have never heard that it's illegal to switch after learning on an auto. It's just harder to get the hang of it in the beginning. Cops may tend to be a little more leinent if they pull you over for something, although that may just be in smaller towns.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Cyndane, wouldn't you say though that for those that strive for excellence, that little HP and torque difference is quite a bit? I know the first car I'm getting is going to be manual so I learn it, and learn it damned good.

    As to the speed limit thing: It pisses me off when people are going 5 miles an hour under. Its even been confirmed by the local police department here that its less of a limit, and more of a "Reccomendation". Be somewhere around it. Going 5-20 miles under it just pisees off everyone around.

    And sure, I'm not in a absolute hurry, but I don't wanna spend 3 extra years of my life in my car.
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