Ep3 Discussion - The Spoiler Filled Thread

[WHO]Them · May 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">*SPOILERS*</div> Ok, here's the spoiler version because I hate complicated mix&match of spoiler and non-spoiler stuff.

I only have 2 real questions....

1. Why did vader's suit have that retarded panel on it? Couldn't they have let me keep my delusions through the end of the movie that the technology was more stylish?

2. Did anyone else notice that when vader broke free from the table with his new suit, that it totally looked like a remake of a bad Frankenstein movie?

"Vader mad. VADER MAD!!!!!!"

StormLiong · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (T h e m @ May 19 2005, 09:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 1. Why did vader's suit have that retarded panel on it? Couldn't they have let me keep my delusions through the end of the movie that the technology was more stylish?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Because they had to match it up with the original. The original was retarded so this one had got to be retarded as well. Did you notice after the Vader rise scene, all the control panels in all the scenes started becoming more cheesy looking (like you would see in the original)

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
2. Did anyone else notice that when vader broke free from the table with his new suit, that it totally looked like a remake of a bad Frankenstein movie?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Again Star Wars is all about cheesiness. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> If you look it past that its a great movie <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

Ratonetwothreetwoone · May 2005

general grievous was a flipping pimp.. but heres how his fight with obi wan could have been better...

first of all r2d2 is there... he sprays oil all over the place.... in a ring around grievous and obi wan.. grievous takes a puff of the cigarette he has then he flicks it into the oil.. which makes r2d2 blow up and the ring ignite..

now.. grievous has a robot skeleton with a built in lighter.. you know those car lighters that you press to make them hot.. before he fights with obi wan he presses down his car lighter... then lights up his sabers...

obi wan charges at grievous and grievous just kicks him in the face and he falls flat on his ****.. he walks over to obi wan with all 4 light sabers and slices the **** out of obi wan in a cross motion like anakin did to dooko....

after that it shows grievous standing there in a very victorious stance and all of the sudden his car lighter pops out.. then, he lights up another cigarette... and it goes to some other scene...

mr_drug_lord · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>1. Why did vader's suit have that retarded panel on it? Couldn't they have let me keep my delusions through the end of the movie that the technology was more stylish?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Yeah, I immediately thought, "70s look and aesthetic"

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>2. Did anyone else notice that when vader broke free from the table with his new suit, that it totally looked like a remake of a bad Frankenstein movie?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Well, you have to realize he just recovered from a rather unminor injury

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Did you notice after the Vader rise scene, all the control panels in all the scenes started becoming more cheesy looking (like you would see in the original)</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
yes

douchebagatron · May 2005

did anyone see the millinium falcon on corruscant?

KungFuSquirrel · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (6john @ May 19 2005, 10:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> did anyone see the millinium falcon on corruscant?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I did!

...though technically it could be <i>any</i> Corellian YT-1300... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

Diablus · May 2005

anyone else notice the <b>EXTREME PWNAGE</b> of the movie?

And the freakin sweet Clone soldier suit colors in each different "campaign front" they were on to almost match the atmosphere? So f****** sweet.

The green on the Wookies homeworld freakin rocked. HARD.

DOOManiac · May 2005

I loved how with this movie all the technology finally looked like a blend of the old and the new. You could finally see "ah, that becomes the X-Wing" and "oh, there's the tie fighter's windshield pattern". My favorite was seeing the Corillian Corvette styled almost exactly as the circa 1977 version, complete with white plastic interiors. :D

And having old looking control panels on them to boot made it even better. :D

Seriously, I can't believe you guys are griping about Vader's chestbox being accurate to the original. If he had some sleek circular holographic display crap thing on there I would have murdered everyone in the theatre. Hooray for Lucas finally not screwing something up!

UnderDOG · May 2005

This movie contains one of the best "NOOOOOOOOOOOO"s I've heard in a while.

[WHO]Them · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ May 19 2005, 07:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (T h e m @ May 19 2005, 09:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 1. Why did vader's suit have that retarded panel on it? Couldn't they have let me keep my delusions through the end of the movie that the technology was more stylish? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Because they had to match it up with the original. The original was retarded so this one had got to be retarded as well.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
But they had approximately ~25 storyline years to make everything look retarded.

Blobby · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ May 19 2005, 11:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This movie contains one of the best "NOOOOOOOOOOOO"s I've heard in a while.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Best. NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Ever.

Bacde · May 2005

Did the "NOOOOOO" remind anyone else of toy story 2 when the Zurg toy falls down the elevator shaft? I could barely keep from laughing while darth vader was yelling.

Omega_Death · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ratonetwothreetwoone @ May 19 2005, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> general grievous was a flipping pimp.. but heres how his fight with obi wan could have been better...

first of all r2d2 is there... he sprays oil all over the place.... in a ring around grievous and obi wan.. grievous takes a puff of the cigarette he has then he flicks it into the oil.. which makes r2d2 blow up and the ring ignite..

now.. grievous has a robot skeleton with a built in lighter.. you know those car lighters that you press to make them hot.. before he fights with obi wan he presses down his car lighter... then lights up his sabers...

obi wan charges at grievous and grievous just kicks him in the face and he falls flat on his ****.. he walks over to obi wan with all 4 light sabers and slices the **** out of obi wan in a cross motion like anakin did to dooko....

after that it shows grievous standing there in a very victorious stance and all of the sudden his car lighter pops out.. then, he lights up another cigarette... and it goes to some other scene...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Are you working for the tobacco industry.....

Omega_Death · May 2005

I thought that the movie was about as good as it could've been. It was dark, it full-filled what it needed to (although I'm sure there are people out there picking it to death as we speak and trying to find someway to destroy it), and it was extremely well done and entertaining to boot. The locations were very well done and very diverse. The character development was good, but some of the early dialog was a bit cheesy for my taste. I thought it was definitely the best of the prequils (not that it's hard) possibly even the series.

StormLiong · May 2005

Emperor (in his usual evil voice): RISE LORD VADER!
Vader: So where is padame?

Cyndane · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ May 20 2005, 05:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Emperor (in his usual evil voice): RISE LORD VADER!
Vader: Is Padame ok?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
FIXED. :-)

Renegade · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (StormLiong @ May 20 2005, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Emperor (in his usual evil voice): RISE LORD VADER!
Vader: So where is padame?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
He's not in his Sith Lord mentallity at this time, he's still in his "I love Padme but I want power" state. Remember that.

Merkaba · May 2005

Wicked ending, I don't know if it was the movie of the fact that I'd been awake for 30 hours but I had to stifle back a sob at how everything was preparing for the 4th episode. It's great when things come together and make sense...

The 'NOOO' was great because it's like seeing Anakins last ray of light being extinguised...by himself. He knows that all he has left now is darkness.

I really liked the 'sets' (whether 3D or not) in this movie...there was an overwhelming sense of scale, which if you think about it in a world where a different planet is like a different country, that makes sense. It's not as if room is an issue <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /> Though they could have at least put a fan or something by Anakin/Padame in that scene where they're on the balcony of a hugely tall building. Miles up in the air, and not even a touch of wind?

Anyway, great redeeming movie.

TheWizard · May 2005

Best of the first 3. But still behind the original 3. Nice and dark, but some Lucas moments.

6. Noooooooooo. - He didn't even fall to his knees. 5/10 for cliche. 123123/10 for cheesiness.

5. What do you remember of your mother? - Apparently nothing at all since she was 30 seconds old when she died.

4. When you are set to receive a charge from a droid army and backed up by angry wookies. Or any other combat scene for that matter. Do you stand completly in the open when there is perfectly good cover/trenches behind you?

3. Gee I had a bad dream and the chancellor is the Jedi's nemesis (Including Obi Wan, whom has been with me nearly every day for 15 years). I guess I have to go disembowl 6 year olds 3 seconds later.

2. Mace Windu needed more Bad **** MoFo.

1. You are beautiful because I love you.... or something.

Cyndane · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheWizard @ May 20 2005, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 1. You are beautiful because I love you.... or something. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Anakin: You, are just so beautiful.
Padame: You think I'm beautiful because I love you.
Anakin: I think you are beautiful because I do love you.
Padame: So can you say that love has blinded you?
Anakin: Well, uhh, not like that. I didn't mean it that way..
Padame: giggles

Whole scene idea in like 10 seconds, ftw. (Personally one of my favorites that is because I have done something similar in rl.)
*edited* I messed up her second line.

Diablus · May 2005

anyone hear the famous " Wilhelm Scream" that has been in movies since like the 1980's? AND it was in I think Every or Most starwars movies

Well that "Wilhelm Screams"plays in the beginning when the 2 ships pull a broadside and the clone armies cannon gets hit sending them flying, you hear one of the clone soldiers scream as he's blown away <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

StormLiong · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ May 20 2005, 01:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Anakin: You, are just so beautiful.
Padame: You think I'm beautiful because I love you.
Anakin: I think you are beautiful because I do love you.
Padame: So can you say that love has blinded you?
Anakin: Well, uhh, not like that. I didn't mean it that way..
Padame: giggles </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Any suggestion on what would be the best come back line for Anakin then after that?
Also if Padame was over-sensitive she could have said
Padame: So can you say that love has blinded you? Are you saying I'm ugly and your love has blinded you to that?

urinalcake · May 2005

well something that could explain things getting cheesy..
The Galactic Empire (Republic Army) is now the only Army that exists to protect it's people, or blow up planets, either or. And they've moved from a democratic state to, something else? so now things kind of fall into a "dark ages" if you will.

Think about Russia, before the soviet union fell, thats what it kind of reminded me of.

Spacer · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ May 20 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> anyone hear the famous " Wilhelm Scream" that has been in movies since like the 1980's? AND it was in I think Every or Most starwars movies

Well that "Wilhelm Screams"plays in the beginning when the 2 ships pull a broadside and the clone armies cannon gets hit sending them flying, you hear one of the clone soldiers scream as he's blown away <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Yeah, I heard that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />.

Also, did anyone notice they used the word younglings about a billion times?

Omegaman · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ May 20 2005, 03:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ May 20 2005, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> anyone hear the famous " Wilhelm Scream" that has been in movies since like the 1980's? AND it was in I think Every or Most starwars movies

Well that "Wilhelm Screams"plays in the beginning when the 2 ships pull a broadside and the clone armies cannon gets hit sending them flying, you hear one of the clone soldiers scream as he's blown away <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Yeah, I heard that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />.

Also, did anyone notice they used the word younglings about a billion times?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
If this is true, then when I go to see it tonight, I will take a swig of Bawls every time they say younglings.

Ratonetwothreetwoone · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Omega Death @ May 20 2005, 03:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ratonetwothreetwoone @ May 19 2005, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> general grievous was a flipping pimp.. but heres how his fight with obi wan could have been better...

first of all r2d2 is there... he sprays oil all over the place.... in a ring around grievous and obi wan.. grievous takes a puff of the cigarette he has then he flicks it into the oil.. which makes r2d2 blow up and the ring ignite..

now.. grievous has a robot skeleton with a built in lighter.. you know those car lighters that you press to make them hot.. before he fights with obi wan he presses down his car lighter... then lights up his sabers...

obi wan charges at grievous and grievous just kicks him in the face and he falls flat on his ****.. he walks over to obi wan with all 4 light sabers and slices the **** out of obi wan in a cross motion like anakin did to dooko....

after that it shows grievous standing there in a very victorious stance and all of the sudden his car lighter pops out.. then, he lights up another cigarette... and it goes to some other scene... </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Are you working for the tobacco industry.....  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
no..

doing it that way would explain why grievous coughs so much... everyone who doesnt know the truth would think hes a chain smoker...

well thats how it goes in my movie... yes.. i direct my own movies in my head... and make them better...

but putting that in the actual movie would make people really **** off at lucas for screwing up grievous's past...

DOOManiac · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spacer @ May 20 2005, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yeah, I heard that :D.

Also, did anyone notice they used the word younglings about a billion times?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I have a feeling this was due mainly to them not wanting to come out and openly say that children were slaughtered en masse. But rather younglings, whatever those are...

Yeah... Dumb, but that's probably the truth...

UnderDOG · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ratonetwothreetwoone @ May 20 2005, 03:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> doing it that way would explain why grievous coughs so much... everyone who doesnt know the truth would think hes a chain smoker...

well thats how it goes in my movie... yes.. i direct my own movies in my head... and make them better...

but putting that in the actual movie would make people really **** off at lucas for screwing up grievous's past...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
So what is it about him that gives him that cough because it looks like he has human heart/lungs/face, but why would they do that to a robot?

Cyndane · May 2005

It's from the Visionaries Comic book.

Anyhow, the reason why Grievous speaks with a cough is because of Mace's little trick with the "Force-crush" action. In the final episode of Clone Wars, he completely smashes the upper torso of Grievous. This causes the armor to completely shred right off, revealing his ribs and delicate insides, and also compresses his diaphram. This now causes him to talk funny.

Also, why am I saying it was Mace? Firstly, Grievous was able to speak fine up until the force-smash by Windu. Secondly, when Grievous was first incapacitated, he got totally wrecked. All except for the vital organs. You see, he ended up with major blood loss (Duh...) and missing most of his limbs (Legs and a little off the arms). Sonce his organs were intact for the most part, they managed to fix him up real good and repaired almost everything via cyber-implants. That bit of info also came from the Visionaries comic.

I beat tycho to it, neener, neener, neener! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Ratonetwothreetwoone · May 2005

i think its because mace windu kicked grievous's **** at one point... thats what i heard from one person.. but in most places online.. (or the 2 that i looked at) said it was because of a space ship "accident" arranged by the sith but blamed on the jedi...

im leaning toward the mace version

one of the star wars books would probably go over it..

**** you beat me to it too...

tycho i say we kick cyndanes ****!

TychoCelchuuu · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheWizard @ May 20 2005, 08:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Best of the first 3. But still behind the original 3. Nice and dark, but some Lucas moments.

6. Noooooooooo. - He didn't even fall to his knees. 5/10 for cliche. 123123/10 for cheesiness.

5. What do you remember of your mother? - Apparently nothing at all since she was 30 seconds old when she died.

4. When you are set to receive a charge from a droid army and backed up by angry wookies. Or any other combat scene for that matter. Do you stand completly in the open when there is perfectly good cover/trenches behind you?

3. Gee I had a bad dream and the chancellor is the Jedi's nemesis (Including Obi Wan, whom has been with me nearly every day for 15 years). I guess I have to go disembowl 6 year olds 3 seconds later.

2. Mace Windu needed more Bad **** MoFo.

1. You are beautiful because I love you.... or something.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
6. Noooo was fine. It perfectly mirrored Luke's reaction on hearing Darth Vader is his father.

5. Meh. Leia remembers she was "pretty" and "sad." You can't argue that Padme was neither.

4. There were clones in the trenches and clones out of the trenches. They have been fighting this war for YEARS, and remember, these are clone troopers. At this point the mentality is "end this thing" and if that means pushing forwards at the expense of a few troopers, it's worth it to roll over the Seperatist forces that much faster, and get valuable Jedi to another planet. The limiting resource is the Jedi, not the troopers.

3. Anakin has serious seperation issues. He loved his mother as much as anyone ever could, he had dreams of her death, and he arrived just as he died. He blames himself, wholly, for her death, and feels he isn't strong enough to have saved her. Now he sees the exact same thing happening to Padme, the woman he loves more than anything else in the world. Sidious offers him a chance to save Padme, and Anakin is already growing frustrated with the council. It makes sense he would fall to the dark side.

2. Yep.

1. Yeah that sucked.

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