milosis : I'm sorry you feel that way, but in defense, every server limits the way you play, they only vary in amount. Infact, the only servers that WOULDN'T limit the way you play, would be servers with absolutely no rules at all that also let you cheat all you want (both sv_cheats and not caring about hacks), but that's a different story.
I think hes trying to say LM limits your options gigantically compared to other servers.
You guys can't spawncamp because I suppose nubs are too lazy to notice they are spawning. Get killed by someone like me and complain about it. I'm not sure if SpawnInvul is on but I'm guessing its on the server.
I remember drama about #cri in your server. Because they are "advertising" their name and they got banned for it. Although this may not be the whole story, I believe this is what happened. If its wrong don't shun me I just woke up <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Back on the spawncamping thing again. Me and another person asked the definition of spawncamping to LB. I've even put up a few, erm can't find word sleepy still, examples! Such as what if a Marine team is about to siege a hive. I remember specifically that you cannot even go into the hive and kill skulks even if you were about to siege. 5 Marines outside the hive, they ALL must build the Sieges before they better do the unthinkable of spawncamping.
And i'll throw a last example of blockingscripts. This is broken, is not suppose to block 90% of the crap its really blocking. Although many people go on about that scripts are cheap and crap, I like to play the game the way I made it. With just my simple 3 jump script.
Any spelling/grammar errors are due to waking up. And if my arguements are crap I blame waking up 5 minutes ago too.
Duo : I never said we didn't block player's options, but hey, FW's sig could be applied here; Newbies Whine <i>Veterans Adapt</i>. Note that I'm not saying we're vets at the game, the quote is just appliable, IE; What? No Bunnyhop script to help me? I have to learn how to time jumps properly myself? BLASPHEMY. I do know that bunnyhopping is more directly affected by your timing, but I've seriously heard a LOT of complaints from people not being able to use a bhop script. It's a convenience, nothing more. I know I'm going to die for this from all the proscripters out there, and to them, I say; To each their own. If you don't like not being able to use your script on our server, fine, just don't drag us through the mud because of it.
If our server was really THAT restrictive on what the player could do, we wouldn't have an almost constantly full server approx. 18 hours of the day (seriously, even if the server was constantly full of random pubbers, which it's not, we'd run out of random pubbers eventually. And the server is RARELY full of regs, apart from reg night, where the entire night is dedicated to the community to get together and have some fun). I won't totally discount that our server is restrictive on those who are used to "no-holds bar competitive play" (Spawncamping is fine, scripts are allowed full blast, etc). But really, it's not as gigantic as one would think, infact, some of our regs like scripts, but they don't mind not being able to use them on the server. I'll have to use Isamil as an example here, sorry Isanub. He likes his pistolscript, but he can't use it on the server, does he let that affect him? No, infact, he has no problem with it. I think better of him for that attitude.
And actually, Duo. I've had instances where I was waiting to spawn, nothing really distracting me, and as soon as I do spawn, I'm killed by a player who just sits there. Honestly, there's not much one can do if the entire team is dead (but by then the game is usually over, poor example, I know), or if half the team is on the other side of the map (and so they come back to the hive, or whatever, but again, that takes valuable time- that's not to say they don't do it, it's just some of the times, the hive is dead by then).
Continuuing on spawncamping. I'll expand upon your example. Right, a marine is NOT allowed to go into the hive and just sit there killing skulks while the others build the sieges (<i>I remember specifically that you cannot even go into the hive and kill skulks even if you were about to siege</i>). One could, however, just as easily stay on a corner a bit away from the sieges and kill skulks as they attempt to kill the builders (not as effective, but doesn't down right eliminate almost all chance the aliens have).
Moving on to what happens if the marines have completed building sieges and comm is out of energy for pinging: Marines are then able to move into the hive (if they haven't already while the comm was pinging to help shoot it down). The next part is VERY touchy, but I'll explain it as best I can. Basically at THIS point spawncamping is "allowed", so long as the majority of players are gunning down the hive, and not much time is being lost in taking down said hive.
Edit: On the #cri drama. It was actually a bit more than that. IIRC, some of the members were extremely disrespectful and the such, it eventually got to be such a problem that we had to "punish" the entire clan for it. I know, I'm not happy that the entire group of people had to be banned just because of the actions of a few irresponsible people, but sometimes, it's the only thing that can be done as the drama, apparently, got to be too much of a problem for some of our staff <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <--- Don't quote me on this either, I'm only speculating from what I can remember, and I can't remember much. For all we know, you could be right too, though I doubt it, as some of the members were very cooperative in removing the # from their name, IIRC. Update: Actually, most of the members were cooperative and didn't have a problem with removing #, it was just a couple who created "serious" problems and ruined it for the rest of the clan.
<!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+Feb 23 2005, 02:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Feb 23 2005, 02:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If these servers were really such bad places to play, then why are you worried about being banned? Some random server op bans me for hacking (DoD, I'm not that good at NS!), I think to myself "Uh. Kay." <i>and never return</i>.
And if you <b>do</b> object to being banned, then surely that must be linked to some kind of awareness of what you have done wrong? e.g. Some form of puerile epenis display? This thread is just angst and bs, from where I'm standing.
Servers are private environments. If you have a problem with the way someone treated you, then deal with it like a grown up, via PMs. Don't come onto the forums crying about it. Jesus, have some self-respect.
Please don't wash your dirty linen in public. It just makes you look like a tosser. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because the NS community is so small that if you get banned from all servers pretty soon you will find yourself with no place to play, or you must play in super laggy servers. There is not always a choice in where you can play.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zero7+Feb 23 2005, 06:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zero7 @ Feb 23 2005, 06:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh snap. Error on my part then, sorry. Just disregard that.
(On a side note. Not a flame, if you think it is: Why can't I discuss LM in this forum? You're discussing NSA =/) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Simply because the LM community has no place in the conversation about the NSA community.
This goes for BOTH sides, for and against. This is not a thread about LM, and the debate of why so and so recieved a ban. This is a promotion for the NSA and how they support competitive efforts. Hence its place in the competitive forum. I haven't seen any support from the LM community to the competitive community, hence their discussion has no relevance to this thread, or this forum.
Please keep all those discussions outside of this thread, whether it is by PM, or IRC or email.
GrendelAll that is fear...Join Date: 2002-07-19Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
<span style='color:red'>If you complain about the colour of the upholstery in your free ride, you should not be suprised when you are asked to leave the vehicle at your next stop.</span>
<!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+Feb 24 2005, 04:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Feb 24 2005, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you complain about the colour of the upholstery in your free ride, you should not be suprised when you are asked to leave the vehicle at your next stop. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride after he was very rude to you?
<!--QuoteBegin-Us3r+Feb 24 2005, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Us3r @ Feb 24 2005, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+Feb 24 2005, 04:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Feb 24 2005, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you complain about the colour of the upholstery in your free ride, you should not be suprised when you are asked to leave the vehicle at your next stop. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride after he was very rude to you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride calling you a murdering scumbag?
<!--QuoteBegin-tjosan+Feb 24 2005, 06:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tjosan @ Feb 24 2005, 06:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Us3r+Feb 24 2005, 05:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Us3r @ Feb 24 2005, 05:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+Feb 24 2005, 04:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ Feb 24 2005, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you complain about the colour of the upholstery in your free ride, you should not be suprised when you are asked to leave the vehicle at your next stop. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride after he was very rude to you? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride calling you a murdering scumbag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ponce!
<!--QuoteBegin-Firewater+Jan 25 2005, 01:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firewater @ Jan 25 2005, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I am doing this because I believe that this server can recreate in part the games that were played on hamptons. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thanks for the heads up, firewater - I really dont have the time (or the connection, except for weekends) to play on too many pub servers anymore, so it's good to know about hampton quality servers.
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LOL I just saw that user said "ponce" right before I replied- LOL - <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
a_civilianLikes seeing numbersJoin Date: 2003-01-08Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
<!--QuoteBegin-Zero7+Feb 23 2005, 01:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zero7 @ Feb 23 2005, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Example: civillian was banned from our server, after the mass unbanning, he has come back at least a few times. Our regs tolerate him, infact, I'd say they're "friendly" with him now. And furthermore, we have lots of regs who dislike other regs, they're still around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I was never banned.
It may not be so much your skill in general but your consistency, if you are killing at a pretty high level but then you have lucky moments, people see the influence of luck in your game, making you seem much less intimidating.
<!--QuoteBegin-Malibu Stacey+Feb 11 2005, 04:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Malibu Stacey @ Feb 11 2005, 04:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no offence to Firewater or any of the regs or admins of NSArmslab servers meant here. After playing on NSArmslab Classic regularly in the last week it really pointed out a lot of what is wrong with NS. 12 vs 12 should never be allowed. Even 8 vs 8 is too much for some servers where the average level of skill is high. 16 players should be the highest <b>any</b> server should run for NS maps.
Imagine you're comming with 11 marines. send 5 or 6 to the aliens first hive as soon as the round starts, let the rest cap nodes & mop up the aliens outside the hive. 3 minutes into the game you have an alien team of 12 players spawncamped (imagine how long it is going to take you to spawn when there are 11 other dead guys in the queue. Pick up a book or a magazine or something.). All you need to do is drop your rines ammo & the odd medpack if they ever get bitten (ff is off remember so its even easier for the rines). Build armoury near the rines, drop SGs & mines (you'll have about 8 or so RTs up at this time generally so 8 res per tick plus whatever you're getting off RFK means its very easy to do that) for all & its gg aliens. And that was only by sending approximately half of your marines straight to the hive.
Imagine this in 7 vs 7 or 6 vs 6. 3 rines go to hive. 3 rines get killed by 2 or 3 skulks and if the aliens have 1/2 a clue, Lerk support too. Meanwhile both teams are capping RTs & the game can progress as normal instead of the complete one sided slaughter as above.
Which is more fun? I guess it depends on which team you're on. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what's even funnier is if an admin is on the spawncamping team, he won't stop it.. but even encourage it, and at the end of the game, they seem to be the ones always doing the last gorge in a vent with a dc as if they had some chance of survival. Same with team stacking. This is on an everyday basis. But they are sure quick to slay/slap whoever ELSE condones in such activities.. go figure. IF THERE IS A SERVER OUT THERE THAT HAS STRAIGHT PLAY AND NO BS, PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN!!!
<!--QuoteBegin-DuoGodOfDeath+Feb 25 2005, 01:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuoGodOfDeath @ Feb 25 2005, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NSA > Any other NS server
Its simple as that. Servers rule and have admins on most of the time to ban those baddies :o <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> nsa seems to be the only server i've played on to have some sort of challenge. I guess such annoyances would exist on all servers, but ive only experienced them to an extreme extent* on nsa. Such as the spawncamping, team stacking, game prolonging. IT SUCKS, but life is a ho and sometimes you must slap it. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Firewater+Feb 25 2005, 01:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Firewater @ Feb 25 2005, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whether civilian was banned or not has no relevance to my thread about NSarmslab.
Please stop talking about LM, because quite frankly their community has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMPETITIVE COMMUNITY OR NSA (who sponsors top clans).
Please take your side conversation out of my thread. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> your avatar doesn't show up for some reason ;\
<!--QuoteBegin-DuoGodOfDeath+Feb 25 2005, 01:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuoGodOfDeath @ Feb 25 2005, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NSA > Any other NS server
Its simple as that. Servers rule and have admins on most of the time to ban those baddies :o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I hate the NSA classic server. If the marines have a competent comm, then they won't lose. The aliens just can't compete in spawn rate.
<!--QuoteBegin-theclam+Feb 25 2005, 06:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (theclam @ Feb 25 2005, 06:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DuoGodOfDeath+Feb 25 2005, 01:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuoGodOfDeath @ Feb 25 2005, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> NSA > Any other NS server
Its simple as that. Servers rule and have admins on most of the time to ban those baddies :o <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I hate the NSA classic server. If the marines have a competent comm, then they won't lose. The aliens just can't compete in spawn rate.
I like LM better. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Must have compentent players for anything to happen. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Was just banned from lunixmonster for using my cal name `muk, amazing, I really didnt think they actually banned for no reason. I followed all the comms orders, built rts, build phase gates, communicated with the team, just had a high k:d ratio and got banned.
I was not spawn camping, I was shooting hte hive AND aliens, an admin was speccing me for 2 rounds, I was being a team player, and we had both hives locked game was over, went in the hive to finish it, took out chambers/skulks/and I got the hive kill.
And I was not the only one, there were others on the team that are considered "regs" that were NOT shooting the hive and did they get banned? No.
Chances are, if you're banned from most pubs you've played on, then it's for more than just owning. I mean, NOBODY in the history on NS ever hacked, right? Or even acted like a punk and irritated everyone, right? RIIGHT>214m2??? It's a grand conspiracy against the 1337!
Conveniently, NSA has weekly problems with cheaters. Just check their ban forum. Makes you wonder where all these "i haeve olnly sene two hakcers in ns evar" claims were pulled out of.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Was just banned from lunixmonster for using my cal name `muk, amazing, I really didnt think they actually banned for no reason. I followed all the comms orders, built rts, build phase gates, communicated with the team, just had a high k:d ratio and got banned. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Funny story a guy on NSA did a demo on `muk and said he was aimbotting. I almost laughed that he though you aimbotted. I think you `God that you should just stay within the NSA servers and you'll get a lot of love and support from a bunch of loving supporting people <3
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Irony! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You guys can't spawncamp because I suppose nubs are too lazy to notice they are spawning. Get killed by someone like me and complain about it. I'm not sure if SpawnInvul is on but I'm guessing its on the server.
I remember drama about #cri in your server. Because they are "advertising" their name and they got banned for it. Although this may not be the whole story, I believe this is what happened. If its wrong don't shun me I just woke up <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Back on the spawncamping thing again. Me and another person asked the definition of spawncamping to LB. I've even put up a few, erm can't find word sleepy still, examples! Such as what if a Marine team is about to siege a hive. I remember specifically that you cannot even go into the hive and kill skulks even if you were about to siege. 5 Marines outside the hive, they ALL must build the Sieges before they better do the unthinkable of spawncamping.
And i'll throw a last example of blockingscripts. This is broken, is not suppose to block 90% of the crap its really blocking. Although many people go on about that scripts are cheap and crap, I like to play the game the way I made it. With just my simple 3 jump script.
Any spelling/grammar errors are due to waking up. And if my arguements are crap I blame waking up 5 minutes ago too.
If our server was really THAT restrictive on what the player could do, we wouldn't have an almost constantly full server approx. 18 hours of the day (seriously, even if the server was constantly full of random pubbers, which it's not, we'd run out of random pubbers eventually. And the server is RARELY full of regs, apart from reg night, where the entire night is dedicated to the community to get together and have some fun). I won't totally discount that our server is restrictive on those who are used to "no-holds bar competitive play" (Spawncamping is fine, scripts are allowed full blast, etc). But really, it's not as gigantic as one would think, infact, some of our regs like scripts, but they don't mind not being able to use them on the server. I'll have to use Isamil as an example here, sorry Isanub. He likes his pistolscript, but he can't use it on the server, does he let that affect him? No, infact, he has no problem with it. I think better of him for that attitude.
And actually, Duo. I've had instances where I was waiting to spawn, nothing really distracting me, and as soon as I do spawn, I'm killed by a player who just sits there. Honestly, there's not much one can do if the entire team is dead (but by then the game is usually over, poor example, I know), or if half the team is on the other side of the map (and so they come back to the hive, or whatever, but again, that takes valuable time- that's not to say they don't do it, it's just some of the times, the hive is dead by then).
Continuuing on spawncamping. I'll expand upon your example. Right, a marine is NOT allowed to go into the hive and just sit there killing skulks while the others build the sieges (<i>I remember specifically that you cannot even go into the hive and kill skulks even if you were about to siege</i>). One could, however, just as easily stay on a corner a bit away from the sieges and kill skulks as they attempt to kill the builders (not as effective, but doesn't down right eliminate almost all chance the aliens have).
Moving on to what happens if the marines have completed building sieges and comm is out of energy for pinging: Marines are then able to move into the hive (if they haven't already while the comm was pinging to help shoot it down). The next part is VERY touchy, but I'll explain it as best I can. Basically at THIS point spawncamping is "allowed", so long as the majority of players are gunning down the hive, and not much time is being lost in taking down said hive.
Edit: On the #cri drama. It was actually a bit more than that. IIRC, some of the members were extremely disrespectful and the such, it eventually got to be such a problem that we had to "punish" the entire clan for it. I know, I'm not happy that the entire group of people had to be banned just because of the actions of a few irresponsible people, but sometimes, it's the only thing that can be done as the drama, apparently, got to be too much of a problem for some of our staff <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <--- Don't quote me on this either, I'm only speculating from what I can remember, and I can't remember much. For all we know, you could be right too, though I doubt it, as some of the members were very cooperative in removing the # from their name, IIRC. Update: Actually, most of the members were cooperative and didn't have a problem with removing #, it was just a couple who created "serious" problems and ruined it for the rest of the clan.
And if you <b>do</b> object to being banned, then surely that must be linked to some kind of awareness of what you have done wrong? e.g. Some form of puerile epenis display? This thread is just angst and bs, from where I'm standing.
Servers are private environments. If you have a problem with the way someone treated you, then deal with it like a grown up, via PMs. Don't come onto the forums crying about it. Jesus, have some self-respect.
Please don't wash your dirty linen in public. It just makes you look like a tosser. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because the NS community is so small that if you get banned from all servers pretty soon you will find yourself with no place to play, or you must play in super laggy servers. There is not always a choice in where you can play.
(On a side note. Not a flame, if you think it is: Why can't I discuss LM in this forum? You're discussing NSA =/) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Simply because the LM community has no place in the conversation about the NSA community.
This goes for BOTH sides, for and against. This is not a thread about LM, and the debate of why so and so recieved a ban. This is a promotion for the NSA and how they support competitive efforts. Hence its place in the competitive forum. I haven't seen any support from the LM community to the competitive community, hence their discussion has no relevance to this thread, or this forum.
Please keep all those discussions outside of this thread, whether it is by PM, or IRC or email.
What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride after he was very rude to you?
What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride after he was very rude to you? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride calling you a murdering scumbag?
What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride after he was very rude to you? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What if you don't complain about the color of the upholstery, but complain about the operator of the ride calling you a murdering scumbag? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ponce!
Thanks for the heads up, firewater - I really dont have the time (or the connection, except for weekends) to play on too many pub servers anymore, so it's good to know about hampton quality servers.
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LOL I just saw that user said "ponce" right before I replied- LOL - <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I was never banned.
After playing on NSArmslab Classic regularly in the last week it really pointed out a lot of what is wrong with NS. 12 vs 12 should never be allowed. Even 8 vs 8 is too much for some servers where the average level of skill is high. 16 players should be the highest <b>any</b> server should run for NS maps.
Imagine you're comming with 11 marines. send 5 or 6 to the aliens first hive as soon as the round starts, let the rest cap nodes & mop up the aliens outside the hive. 3 minutes into the game you have an alien team of 12 players spawncamped (imagine how long it is going to take you to spawn when there are 11 other dead guys in the queue. Pick up a book or a magazine or something.). All you need to do is drop your rines ammo & the odd medpack if they ever get bitten (ff is off remember so its even easier for the rines). Build armoury near the rines, drop SGs & mines (you'll have about 8 or so RTs up at this time generally so 8 res per tick plus whatever you're getting off RFK means its very easy to do that) for all & its gg aliens. And that was only by sending approximately half of your marines straight to the hive.
Imagine this in 7 vs 7 or 6 vs 6. 3 rines go to hive. 3 rines get killed by 2 or 3 skulks and if the aliens have 1/2 a clue, Lerk support too. Meanwhile both teams are capping RTs & the game can progress as normal instead of the complete one sided slaughter as above.
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what's even funnier is if an admin is on the spawncamping team, he won't stop it.. but even encourage it, and at the end of the game, they seem to be the ones always doing the last gorge in a vent with a dc as if they had some chance of survival. Same with team stacking. This is on an everyday basis. But they are sure quick to slay/slap whoever ELSE condones in such activities.. go figure. IF THERE IS A SERVER OUT THERE THAT HAS STRAIGHT PLAY AND NO BS, PLEASE MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN!!!
Please stop talking about LM, because quite frankly their community has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMPETITIVE COMMUNITY OR NSA (who sponsors top clans).
Please take your side conversation out of my thread.
Its simple as that. Servers rule and have admins on most of the time to ban those baddies :o
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nsa seems to be the only server i've played on to have some sort of challenge. I guess such annoyances would exist on all servers, but ive only experienced them to an extreme extent* on nsa. Such as the spawncamping, team stacking, game prolonging. IT SUCKS, but life is a ho and sometimes you must slap it. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Please stop talking about LM, because quite frankly their community has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMPETITIVE COMMUNITY OR NSA (who sponsors top clans).
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your avatar doesn't show up for some reason ;\
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I hate the NSA classic server. If the marines have a competent comm, then they won't lose. The aliens just can't compete in spawn rate.
I like LM better.
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I hate the NSA classic server. If the marines have a competent comm, then they won't lose. The aliens just can't compete in spawn rate.
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Must have compentent players for anything to happen. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And I was not the only one, there were others on the team that are considered "regs" that were NOT shooting the hive and did they get banned? No.
Conveniently, NSA has weekly problems with cheaters. Just check their ban forum. Makes you wonder where all these "i haeve olnly sene two hakcers in ns evar" claims were pulled out of.
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Funny story a guy on NSA did a demo on `muk and said he was aimbotting. I almost laughed that he though you aimbotted. I think you `God that you should just stay within the NSA servers and you'll get a lot of love and support from a bunch of loving supporting people <3