Halo 2

mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
<div class="IPBDescription">w00t ^_^</div> Well, it's only 4 days until Halo 2 arrives so I think it's prudent to create a topic in which all our praise for the Reclaimer can go.

I'm really amazed by the graphics and hopefully by the gameplay. Bungie says there are twice as many gameplay hours, plus XBL and other multi-play options.

Things like boarding, two weapon wielding, plasma sword, brutes, marines can finally drive, covie sniper rifle, guass-hog, snow-hog, troop-hog, leet-hog and advanced marine AI are making H2 one of the most hyped games ever.

So anyway, discuss, but don't flame, because you don't wanna be bant.
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  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    The graphics aren't that impressive, I don't know why everyone is raving about them.
  • mirrodinmirrodin Join Date: 2004-06-29 Member: 29621Members
    Well the low-poly models are off set by the skilled bump-mapping, giving the models a feeling of depth without slowing the framerate. Thus increased graphic capability while still supporting online play w/ 16 ppl.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Nov 5 2004, 01:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Nov 5 2004, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics aren't that impressive, I don't know why everyone is raving about them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah because that's the most important factor.

    >_>
    <_<

    <b>PLOT</b>
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cold-NiTe+Nov 4 2004, 10:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Nov 4 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Nov 5 2004, 01:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Nov 5 2004, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics aren't that impressive, I don't know why everyone is raving about them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah because that's the most important factor.

    >_>
    <_<

    <b>PLOT</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not saying they're the most important, I'm saying they aren't orgasmic like everyone makes them out to be.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Hmmm... That's true, everyone seems to be hyping it's graphics. But when people do that I usually don't pay attention. Because if you think about it, the graphics will only gain your attention, the gameplay and the story must hold it. Why? Because we habituate. Once we see something new and find it interesting, given enough time "the novelty wears off". Or rather, habituation takes place and we are no longer stimulated by that level of graphics.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    I haven't heard anything about the awesomeness of the graphics since it was unveiled at E3 two years ago...because it was the first one showcased with psuedo real-time lighting.


    I was more intrigued with the story, always love fighting aliens off my home planet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> - especially with the oppurtunity for more advanced plot than that (heck, I'd be fine with fighting the aliens off the planet).


    Hoping Game Crazy has enough in stock on Monday that I'm guaranteed it. I'll be thoroughly annoyed if I can't get it then...otherwise, I have off of work Mon-Wed...just the whole...colllege classes things in the way.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Wonder how varient the maps will be.
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Rellix+Nov 5 2004, 07:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Nov 5 2004, 07:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wonder how varient the maps will be. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just follow the arrows and you won't get lost <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Nov 5 2004, 01:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Nov 5 2004, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics aren't that impressive, I don't know why everyone is raving about them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yeah... ive played it....and it wasnt that amazing..

    its just like halo1




    they tweaked the map textures a bit... and the bumpmapping is not very noticeable..like in the first part.. map architecture appears repetive,useless structures..without any sense of their existance. like halo1.. only cool thing is you can play the cov´s in multiplayer
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    Loved Halo, me and my friend beat it at 3 AM at night. Now seeing all these Halo 2 video's just pust a smile on my face knowing im going to pwn some more covenant!
  • PithlitPithlit Join Date: 2003-05-07 Member: 16120Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Nov 5 2004, 07:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Nov 5 2004, 07:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The graphics aren't that impressive, I don't know why everyone is raving about them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why is anybody about graphics?
    Its the story that counts and the athmosphere, and thats not only made by graphic.

    I´d rather play a game with good story and crappy graphic that a graphic demo.

    And i think Halo has a hell of a story ^^
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I just like the visual setting. Because everything human seems human. (Unlike being way too Sci-Fi that it doesn't seem human. That and the marines look really cool.
  • Invader_ScootInvader_Scoot Join Date: 2003-10-13 Member: 21669Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Pithlit+Nov 5 2004, 07:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pithlit @ Nov 5 2004, 07:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And i think Halo has a hell of a story ^^ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Most of my friends that actually played through the whole game, never actually found out what the story was. Whenever I'd ask them they'd say, "No idea."
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Nov 5 2004, 04:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Nov 5 2004, 04:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I was more intrigued with the story, always love fighting aliens off my home planet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> - especially with the oppurtunity for more advanced plot than that (heck, I'd be fine with fighting the aliens off the planet).
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If by "fight aliens off of your planet" you mean "fight aliens in a place not on your planet" then Halo 2 is gonna dissappoint. If by "fight aliens off of your planet" you mean "fight them and make them get off my planet" you can play Half-Life 2 instead <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I love the story better than pretty much every other game I've ever played, except MAYBE Deus Ex. This is probably because I have a lot of theories, have read a lot of speculation, and own the three books... Also, I love the gameplay. Tough enemies with great AI = fun. Not so sure I like the lack of health indicators though, they seem to want to make Halo 2 more "fast paced." I hope the requisite tactics in multiplayer don't get thrown out the window by this.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Nov 5 2004, 10:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Nov 5 2004, 10:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I love the story better than pretty much every other game I've ever played, except MAYBE Deus Ex. This is probably because I have a lot of theories, have read a lot of speculation, and own the three books... Also, I love the gameplay. Tough enemies with great AI = fun. Not so sure I like the lack of health indicators though, they seem to want to make Halo 2 more "fast paced." I hope the requisite tactics in multiplayer don't get thrown out the window by this. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No health what now?
  • BeRzErKeRBeRzErKeR Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13691Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Nov 5 2004, 12:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Nov 5 2004, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yeah...  ive played it....and it wasnt that amazing..

    its just like halo1

    they tweaked the map textures a bit... and the bumpmapping is not very noticeable..like in the first part..  map architecture appears repetive,useless structures..without any sense of their existance. like halo1..  only cool thing is you can play the cov´s in multiplayer<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You've played through the single player campaign... where exactly?

    Tycho, yeah, you no longer have a health meter, only the shield. After your shield goes down you can only take a few bullets before going down. I personally like the change, you no longer have to worry about having to replay a big battle because you lost 2/3 of your health and there are no medkits around.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin-sheena yanai+Nov 5 2004, 05:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Nov 5 2004, 05:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->yeah...  ive played it....and it wasnt that amazing..

    its just like halo1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, if you enjoy Halo, though... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> I loved Halo. Thought it was really fun, interesting story development (It's freakin' laid out right in front of you, for crying out loud, hehe), etc. etc. Generally, though, it seems Halo is more impressive if you didn't play HL first.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->they tweaked the map textures a bit... and the bumpmapping is not very noticeable..like in the first part..  map architecture appears repetive,useless structures..without any sense of their existance. like halo1.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    For the new tech they're using, the game should look a lot better. The characters aren't too bad - a little lower res feeling than D3 (comparing to high settings, mind), but understandable on the xbox. The maps, though... I had the same complaint in Halo, but it's magnified by the normal mapping stuff. Having big giant grey slabs of metal defeats the purpose of normal mapping. Bungie makes these really cool architectural pieces, but then textures them practically with a flat grey. Imagine in Halo having the various techy bits given real textures with edges and panels and details and glow passes, etc. etc. They could have done so much more than what they did, and it looks like the Halo 2 levels will be full of bland textures, too. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I'm still very hyped about it, though. More of the same isn't always a bad thing when you're comparing to something like Halo. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    Yes, exactly KungFu.

    I don't think you can say horrible things about Halo 2. I mean seriously, are you going to sit here and try to convince all of us that we should not get Halo 2 because it is the crappiest game alive (not you specifically KungFu)? Of course not! I mean heck, maybe it is overhyped, but even then it's a damn good game. I think those that truely believe that Halo 2 will be crap are the same people that love Half-life 2 so much that they would say anything is crap by comparison. And that is simply flawed logic.
  • cannon_fodder11cannon_fodder11 Join Date: 2004-08-03 Member: 30339Members
    BeRzErKeR- He probably played the French or maybe the recent English versions that were stolen while being reproduced at factories.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited November 2004
    Halo was a lot of fun, partially because of how well the plot was integrated into the game...

    however, i wouldn't exactly rave about the plot by itself. compared to most RPGs, it's good, but it's still pretty predictable and the whole game's plot could probably fit on one page...

    btw, they're not releasing the PC version alongside the XBOX version are they? that would be nice.
  • TheMuffinManTheMuffinMan Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11234Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hawkeye+Nov 5 2004, 10:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hawkeye @ Nov 5 2004, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, exactly KungFu.

    I don't think you can say horrible things about Halo 2. I mean seriously, are you going to sit here and try to convince all of us that we should not get Halo 2 because it is the crappiest game alive (not you specifically KungFu)? Of course not! I mean heck, maybe it is overhyped, but even then it's a damn good game. I think those that truely believe that Halo 2 will be crap are the same people that love Half-life 2 so much that they would say anything is crap by comparison. And that is simply flawed logic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    While i doubt that halo 2 will be the crappiest game alive, i definitely doubt it will be any good.

    To be honest, i hated Halo. The story was pretty good, with plenty of room for speculation.
    The gameplay was alright, not as solid as in Half-life, but pretty good for a console FPS.
    The control system was great, it felt very natural.
    The graphics were pretty good, although the use of textures was **** poor.
    The vast majority of maps were among the <b>worst</b> designed maps i have ever seen. Nearly every level was very, very, very, very repetitive. The architecture was squarish, the levels were very, very, very, very repetitive and the levels were very repetitive.

    It looks to be the same with Halo2. All the changes look pretty good but it looks to be as repetitive as the original, which is quite a feat.

    Also, i also doubt that Half-Life 2 will be the best game ever. Saying Halo2 is crap compared to half-life 2 is about as flawed as saying Halo2 will be as good or better than half-life 2, as neither games have been released yet.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    My one complaint against Halo is cut and paste mapping and low number of textures.

    Its story was ok, although some points were stretched out too long.

    Overall it was a good game but not great game, while i will probably get the PC conversion eventualy if it comes out its not something i feel i need to buy unlke HL2 which i need to buy.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-version91x+Nov 5 2004, 10:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (version91x @ Nov 5 2004, 10:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Rellix+Nov 5 2004, 07:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Nov 5 2004, 07:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wonder how varient the maps will be. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just follow the arrows and you won't get lost <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unless they copy/paste entire level sections like the predecessor; it gets a little confusing, and, more importantly, <i>rubbish</i>.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/11/04/news_6112441.html' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/11/04/news_6112441.html</a>

    Yay.
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    Woot! I'm in Indiana!
  • UKchaosUKchaos Join Date: 2002-08-10 Member: 1132Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wonder how varient the maps will be.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Better than the original for sure. Remember they had to rush the first game in order to be an Xbox launch title. This time round they have taken their time.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    Also remember that the outdoor levels aren't repetitive, they actually have cool topography. The bad parts would be how they recycled levels like Two Betrayals and Keyes.

    [Although, personally, Two Betrayals is more fun than Assault on the Control Room...it's got the cool covie-vs-flood brawl.]



    Anyone who says they didn't see the plot in Halo obviously skipped the cut scenes. My roommate skipped the opening intro and had no idea what was going on, but still found it fun (despite getting lost often). Along with skipping the entire plot.
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    I hate retailers that break street dates. Really, really hate them. They're the ones that screw the legit guys out of having games on time for people.
  • HawkeyeHawkeye Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1855Members
    The bottom line, I think is simply this: If you didn't like Halo, you won't like Halo 2. Though, understand you are in the minority. Most people liked Halo, and whether you think it is overhyped or not, they will like Halo 2 just as much.
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