<!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Nov 5 2004, 11:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Nov 5 2004, 11:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I still despise the fact I have to wait for GameStop's second shipment because I preordered late (a whole week after the game is released, tbe). Actually it's probably because I'm trying to get my hands on the limited edition, they said if I wanted the regular version I can just pass through the mega line on halo2 day and pick up a regular version.
Anyone know of a place I can switch preorders to to just get it on the 9th? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, check in with your local GameStop again. Your shipment has in fact been moved up, and will arrive on the 9th. Trust me, I work for the company. They managed to work it out.
And Sid, whoever near you that is selling Halo 2 is breaking street date and can be majorly fined and put last on the list for resupplies from Microsoft. Do trustworthy retailers a favor and report them, 1-800-FIX-XBOX is the number we were told to call. I don't care if you buy 5 copies and sell them on Ebay first, as long as you report those idiots.
The collector's edition makes me sad, they put the 2 discs in but they're sitting right on top of each other, so the top one has a much higher probability of getting scratched. Yes, I opened one and checked. Couldn't resist. Mmmm... Halo 2.
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Nov 5 2004, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Nov 5 2004, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> H2 is MUCH < than HL2
And H3 will be <<<<<<< than HL3 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then again people tend to like released games better.
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
About the health bar: You don't lose your health, you lose your health <i>bar</i>. You know, the thing on your HUD that tells you how much health you have? It's gone, but you don't die instantly when you lose your shield.
<!--QuoteBegin-<[POOP]> Akira+Nov 6 2004, 12:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (<[POOP]> Akira @ Nov 6 2004, 12:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Rellix+Nov 5 2004, 06:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rellix @ Nov 5 2004, 06:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-mirrodin+Nov 5 2004, 09:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mirrodin @ Nov 5 2004, 09:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Damn Americans, getting H2 first... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since when its world wide November 16th and even if you can download through steam.
But I dont know should I buy an x-box next year if someone can name me 5 good games, i might consider buying it.
Halo Halo 2 Fabel ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You wont be downloading Halo 2 off Steam anytime soon, so don't hold your breath. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Right I know some people have problems but <b>Half-Life 2</b> is out Novemeber 16th world wide, anothing about Halo is mentiond in that 1st sentance.
The 2nd refers to me thinking about buying an xbox but not knowing many GOOD games to buy for it, so I asked if anyone knew any good games that could be bought.
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
At first I wasn't excited about Bungie.net's stat tracking system, but then I saw <a href='http://xbox.ign.com/articles/563/563920p3.html?fromint=1' target='_blank'>this</a>. Indeed, Bungie.net is looking like it'll be the internet's leading cause of awesome when Halo 2 comes out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pulse+Nov 6 2004, 08:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Nov 6 2004, 08:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At first I wasn't excited about Bungie.net's stat tracking system, but then I saw <a href='http://xbox.ign.com/articles/563/563920p3.html?fromint=1' target='_blank'>this</a>. Indeed, Bungie.net is looking like it'll be the internet's leading cause of awesome when Halo 2 comes out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Looks really nice, reminds me of phpUA..only better.
ShockehIf a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it...Join Date: 2002-11-19Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
My only question for the first people to play it :
<i>Does it, like Halo, feel like you're running through treacle?</i>
I loved Halo, I really did. But the momentum and physics didn't half irritate the crap out of me. Especially the slllooooowwww movement on practically everything. (Yes, before someone jumps in, I have Xbox and PC versions)
Ya, that was my only concern. If you are side strafing and you jump while doing so you are just asking for a sniper round to the head.
The funny thing was you could jump <b>onto</b> marine and hunters. <_<
mmm, that stat tracker thing will rock for all you but suck for me, I HAVE N0 M4D SKILLZ in XBL >_<. Search for Username 'Rwiju' on Splinter Cell: Pandora Tommorow. Jesus >_>
Just talked to someone who got to play it at a Best Buy booth, and they where talking about a "Sentinel" gun. Remember the little robot guys from the first one with there death rays? Like that but more of a constant beam.
Everything except that comment that the LE is 2 discs on top of eachother makes me more excited about the game.
...despite the fact some of the textures in those videos look a bit bland. Topography always looks so sharp though...plus the intro movie looks like it will have interesting levels (MP levels look designed well, but a bit bland in spots...video quality is also kind of poor).
I just played through the first level of the campaign. It was good, about what I was expecting. There were a few glitches in the cinematics, just a couple minor ones with sounds not quite synching up with graphics. Nothing gamebreaking, but it shouldn't really have made it past quality control that early in the game.
Firing dual wielded SMGs (or just one) makes your view climb something fierce. Think Quake 2's machine gun, and that's the Halo SMG. Dual plasma rifles were my weapons of choice, a very fast firing rate and very nice damage, and they cool off faster than they did in the original too. I think the battery lasts longer as well.
You view can be zoomed with any gun now, but you can only fire while zoomed on the battle rifle and maybe some others I didn't get to use like the sniper rifle and rocket launcher.
Plasma grenades look much more awesome.
Architecture seemed much more varied this time around. While the Pillar of Autumn level in Halo was very sparse and consisted of pretty much nothing but corridors, this first level contains a lot of more complex level design and a definite increase in variety. Yes, the predominant color is a boring gray, but they do much more with it this time architecturally. That's a big plus.
The marine stationary gun seemed a bit meh in terms of firepower, the alien plasma turret was more satisfying. They both seemed a bit superflous, as it's just as effective to get down and dirty with your own weapons than to sit behind the turret and get it done.
***very minor spoiler alert***
There's a bit where you go outside into a low-gravity low-atmosphere environment and sounds are muted drastically, a nice touch.
***end spoiler***
All in all, a solid game. It definitely has that Halo feel to it, in fact one could almost complain that the single player campaign feels kind of like an expansion pack with better graphics, more weapons and different levels. Definitely a fun game however, and the plot is well developed by cutscenes and in-game radio traffic.
Haven't tried multiplayer yet, and won't before the game actually releases. This was a strictly one-time deal <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/halo-2/564044p1.html' target='_blank'>Semi new interview reguarding levels</a>
And since when was the story <i>not</i> any good? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Nov 6 2004, 10:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Nov 6 2004, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And since when was the story <i>not</i> any good? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't know.. I've noticed that like everything else about Halo, the story has two main views on it. You have one group that think its the best thing since sliced bread, and possibly have multiple orgasms thinking about it. Then you have another group that thinks the story was a pile of turd and was hardly noticeable at all.
I'm.. one of those people in the second one. I don't care about what the books say. I don't buy and then read 5 books to figure out what is going on in the game I'm playing. I'm willing to read like.. a page and a half on a website for free and then get the rest of the story in the game.
I just realized the shield indicator is above the motion tracker...it's so out of the way. It's annoying when you need to look all over the screen to get the information you need.
I shouldn't need to play 4 corners when I want to know my status...
Along with the health, they should have just kept it like in the first one. Although, this is something that I consider worse than the lack of health.
Especially in a game with the motion tracker turned off, it will be even more retarded.
QuaunautThe longest seven days in history...Join Date: 2003-03-21Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+Nov 7 2004, 12:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM @ Nov 7 2004, 12:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Nov 6 2004, 10:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Nov 6 2004, 10:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And since when was the story <i>not</i> any good? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't know.. I've noticed that like everything else about Halo, the story has two main views on it. You have one group that think its the best thing since sliced bread, and possibly have multiple orgasms thinking about it. Then you have another group that thinks the story was a pile of turd and was hardly noticeable at all.
I'm.. one of those people in the second one. I don't care about what the books say. I don't buy and then read 5 books to figure out what is going on in the game I'm playing. I'm willing to read like.. a page and a half on a website for free and then get the rest of the story in the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Very true. Even though I flaunt the story in Halo a lot, they could've done a lot more in the first game. The 2nd though is VERY heavy on story- some will even say too much D:
You can nevar be wrong when you are Bungie. <!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->... the best thing since sliced bread, and possibly have multiple orgasms thinking about it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
see how I use your quote out of context? I rock so hard.
<!--QuoteBegin-JediYoshi+Nov 7 2004, 02:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ Nov 7 2004, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The original HUD was dreadful, you ended up only looking at the top 2/3. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ...uhh...that's kind of the point. You shouldn't need to look all over the screen to find your status. It should be a click glance to a corner to see your ammo and health and then back to the action not: up to the amoo, down to the health.
In Halo: MT is in the bottom left (occasionally used) Ammo Indicator is in the top left (depends on weapon use, but commonly used) Grenade Indicator is in the top right (often used in combat) Health Indicator is in the top right (often used in combat)
In Halo 2:
Primary Ammo Indicator is in the top right. Secondary Ammo Indicator/Greande info is in the top left MT and Health ae combined in the top left.
Now, granted, I haven't played Halo 2 yet, but Halo 1's outfit is much more efficient, especially if you have Motion Tracking off (in MP). The only applicable reason for the health to be by the MT is in MP...since the Covies aren't very adept at hiding and running away from you. So, in conclusion: Halo 2's HUD looks like it's designed like crap (compared to Halo's).
The less intrusive the HUD is the better. It shouldn't take up the whole screen. It should take a corner and you shouldn't need to look in 3 different corners to get basic information.
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And H3 will be <<<<<<< than HL3
Anyone know of a place I can switch preorders to to just get it on the 9th? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, check in with your local GameStop again. Your shipment has in fact been moved up, and will arrive on the 9th. Trust me, I work for the company. They managed to work it out.
And Sid, whoever near you that is selling Halo 2 is breaking street date and can be majorly fined and put last on the list for resupplies from Microsoft. Do trustworthy retailers a favor and report them, 1-800-FIX-XBOX is the number we were told to call. I don't care if you buy 5 copies and sell them on Ebay first, as long as you report those idiots.
The collector's edition makes me sad, they put the 2 discs in but they're sitting right on top of each other, so the top one has a much higher probability of getting scratched. Yes, I opened one and checked. Couldn't resist. Mmmm... Halo 2.
And H3 will be <<<<<<< than HL3 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Then again people tend to like released games better.
Gives a little more of a "OMG I'M GONNA DIE!" feel to it.
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Since when its world wide November 16th and even if you can download through steam.
But I dont know should I buy an x-box next year if someone can name me 5 good games, i might consider buying it.
Halo
Halo 2
Fabel
... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You wont be downloading Halo 2 off Steam anytime soon, so don't hold your breath. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right I know some people have problems but <b>Half-Life 2</b> is out Novemeber 16th world wide, anothing about Halo is mentiond in that 1st sentance.
The 2nd refers to me thinking about buying an xbox but not knowing many GOOD games to buy for it, so I asked if anyone knew any good games that could be bought.
Oh and my PC can run Doom 3 etc very well.
Looks really nice, reminds me of phpUA..only better.
<i>Does it, like Halo, feel like you're running through treacle?</i>
I loved Halo, I really did. But the momentum and physics didn't half irritate the crap out of me. Especially the slllooooowwww movement on practically everything. (Yes, before someone jumps in, I have Xbox and PC versions)
- Shockwave
The funny thing was you could jump <b>onto</b> marine and hunters. <_<
mmm, that stat tracker thing will rock for all you but suck for me, I HAVE N0 M4D SKILLZ in XBL >_<. Search for Username 'Rwiju' on Splinter Cell: Pandora Tommorow. Jesus >_>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/Covers.JPG' target='_blank'>Covers</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/2-3.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 2-3</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/4-5.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 4-5</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/6-7.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 6-7</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/8-9.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 8-9</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/10-11.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 10-11</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/12-13.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 12-13</a>
<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/14-15.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 14-15</a>
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<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/22-23.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 22-23</a>
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<a href='http://metal-torrents.com/Halo2RegularManual/28-29.JPG' target='_blank'>Pages 28-29</a>
This is how cool you are:
<a href='http://www.freeipodproof.com/halo/halo2_BC.wmv' target='_blank'>Beaver Creek</a>
<a href='http://www.freeipodproof.com/halo/halo2_acension.wmv' target='_blank'>Acension</a>
<a href='http://www.freeipodproof.com/halo/halo2_headlong.wmv' target='_blank'>Headlong</a>
<a href='http://www.freeipodproof.com/halo/halo2_lockout.wmv' target='_blank'>Lockout</a>
<a href='http://www.freeipodproof.com/halo/halo2_midship.wmv' target='_blank'>Midship</a>
<span style='color:red'>*Possible Spoilers OMGWTHLOLL!!@@OLL!*</span>
The beggining. (Like when you dont press any buttons and leave the start screen up for a while.)
<a href='http://halo2vid.no-ip.org/' target='_blank'>Mmmmmmmmyeah</a>
Just talked to someone who got to play it at a Best Buy booth, and they where talking about a "Sentinel" gun. Remember the little robot guys from the first one with there death rays? Like that but more of a constant beam.
Even the manuel doesn't tell you everything! Meh!
...despite the fact some of the textures in those videos look a bit bland. Topography always looks so sharp though...plus the intro movie looks like it will have interesting levels (MP levels look designed well, but a bit bland in spots...video quality is also kind of poor).
Firing dual wielded SMGs (or just one) makes your view climb something fierce. Think Quake 2's machine gun, and that's the Halo SMG. Dual plasma rifles were my weapons of choice, a very fast firing rate and very nice damage, and they cool off faster than they did in the original too. I think the battery lasts longer as well.
You view can be zoomed with any gun now, but you can only fire while zoomed on the battle rifle and maybe some others I didn't get to use like the sniper rifle and rocket launcher.
Plasma grenades look much more awesome.
Architecture seemed much more varied this time around. While the Pillar of Autumn level in Halo was very sparse and consisted of pretty much nothing but corridors, this first level contains a lot of more complex level design and a definite increase in variety. Yes, the predominant color is a boring gray, but they do much more with it this time architecturally. That's a big plus.
The marine stationary gun seemed a bit meh in terms of firepower, the alien plasma turret was more satisfying. They both seemed a bit superflous, as it's just as effective to get down and dirty with your own weapons than to sit behind the turret and get it done.
***very minor spoiler alert***
There's a bit where you go outside into a low-gravity low-atmosphere environment and sounds are muted drastically, a nice touch.
***end spoiler***
All in all, a solid game. It definitely has that Halo feel to it, in fact one could almost complain that the single player campaign feels kind of like an expansion pack with better graphics, more weapons and different levels. Definitely a fun game however, and the plot is well developed by cutscenes and in-game radio traffic.
Haven't tried multiplayer yet, and won't before the game actually releases. This was a strictly one-time deal <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And since when was the story <i>not</i> any good? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I don't know.. I've noticed that like everything else about Halo, the story has two main views on it.
You have one group that think its the best thing since sliced bread, and possibly have multiple orgasms thinking about it.
Then you have another group that thinks the story was a pile of turd and was hardly noticeable at all.
I'm.. one of those people in the second one. I don't care about what the books say. I don't buy and then read 5 books to figure out what is going on in the game I'm playing. I'm willing to read like.. a page and a half on a website for free and then get the rest of the story in the game.
I shouldn't need to play 4 corners when I want to know my status...
Along with the health, they should have just kept it like in the first one. Although, this is something that I consider worse than the lack of health.
Especially in a game with the motion tracker turned off, it will be even more retarded.
I don't know.. I've noticed that like everything else about Halo, the story has two main views on it.
You have one group that think its the best thing since sliced bread, and possibly have multiple orgasms thinking about it.
Then you have another group that thinks the story was a pile of turd and was hardly noticeable at all.
I'm.. one of those people in the second one. I don't care about what the books say. I don't buy and then read 5 books to figure out what is going on in the game I'm playing. I'm willing to read like.. a page and a half on a website for free and then get the rest of the story in the game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very true. Even though I flaunt the story in Halo a lot, they could've done a lot more in the first game. The 2nd though is VERY heavy on story- some will even say too much D:
<!--QuoteBegin-ANeM+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ANeM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->... the best thing since sliced bread, and possibly have multiple orgasms thinking about it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
see how I use your quote out of context? I rock so hard.
...uhh...that's kind of the point. You shouldn't need to look all over the screen to find your status. It should be a click glance to a corner to see your ammo and health and then back to the action not: up to the amoo, down to the health.
By "only looking at the top 2/3" I mean that's pretty much all you looked at, ever.
And what are you talking about UltimaGecko, the 2/3 top already had the stats in it.
MT is in the bottom left (occasionally used)
Ammo Indicator is in the top left (depends on weapon use, but commonly used)
Grenade Indicator is in the top right (often used in combat)
Health Indicator is in the top right (often used in combat)
In Halo 2:
Primary Ammo Indicator is in the top right.
Secondary Ammo Indicator/Greande info is in the top left
MT and Health ae combined in the top left.
Now, granted, I haven't played Halo 2 yet, but Halo 1's outfit is much more efficient, especially if you have Motion Tracking off (in MP). The only applicable reason for the health to be by the MT is in MP...since the Covies aren't very adept at hiding and running away from you. So, in conclusion: Halo 2's HUD looks like it's designed like crap (compared to Halo's).
The less intrusive the HUD is the better. It shouldn't take up the whole screen. It should take a corner and you shouldn't need to look in 3 different corners to get basic information.