<!--QuoteBegin-steam+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (steam)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The storefront is currently being updated. Please come try again in a few minutes<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. I don't havea spare $25 to spend on a CD burner. In fact, the only drive I have is a DVD-Rom drive that sounds like it's going to shatter the disc that's in there whenever it starts spinning.
2. There's currently a 20GB HDD where the second CD-Rom drive would go.
3. Discs are expensive, if I had $25, the thing would be useless, because I'd have no discs.
4. My computer was made by Compaq, and is liable to explode in the near future.
5. I'd need software to split the 3.5gigs on to different discs, which doesn't seem very feasible to me, in which case - I'd need a DVD burner...and they're most certainly not $25.
6. The internet connection at school here sucks more than a Hoover. I get a measily 80kb/s with Steam (yea, that's a whole 8 kilobytes a second, woot for 56k speed T1s...bastard ResNet). So, if I get to reformat, I get to not download the game effectively (and the only reason 90% of it's on my HDD anyway is because I downloaded it back at home).
7. If steam ever goes down and you format your drive afterwards you can kiss your HL2 goodbye. Whereas a disc could be hacked to at least let you still play the game in 20 years (assuming you take good care of those CDs, or re-copy them every few years). How else can you say, "Yes, little Timmy, back in my day, we had games like this!"
8. On Esuna's point: How do I read the manual on my computer while I'm taking a dump?
9. Where's the materials, which - in case of emergency - can be burned to provide warmth? $50 for a box and discs, or $50 for intangible data...My money is on the person with the box living a warmer life once we nuke ourselves to nuclear winter.
10. Way too many people are going to be downloading crap from Steam for the next few months...I enjoy my games lag free (...especially when loading), thanks [plus, 2 weeks to get your game started seems a bit long].
You buy your HL2 on Steam. I'm going to buy mine at Target (...because it's the only store around here that will have it...), and then I'm going to flaunt my box at you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
<!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Oct 7 2004, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Oct 7 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CD Burners...hmmm?
1. I don't havea spare $25 to spend on a CD burner. In fact, the only drive I have is a DVD-Rom drive that sounds like it's going to shatter the disc that's in there whenever it starts spinning.
2. There's currently a 20GB HDD where the second CD-Rom drive would go.
3. Discs are expensive, if I had $25, the thing would be useless, because I'd have no discs.
4. My computer was made by Compaq, and is liable to explode in the near future.
5. I'd need software to split the 3.5gigs on to different discs, which doesn't seem very feasible to me, in which case - I'd need a DVD burner...and they're most certainly not $25.
6. The internet connection at school here sucks more than a Hoover. I get a measily 80kb/s with Steam (yea, that's a whole 8 kilobytes a second, woot for 56k speed T1s...bastard ResNet). So, if I get to reformat, I get to not download the game effectively (and the only reason 90% of it's on my HDD anyway is because I downloaded it back at home).
7. If steam ever goes down and you format your drive afterwards you can kiss your HL2 goodbye. Whereas a disc could be hacked to at least let you still play the game in 20 years (assuming you take good care of those CDs, or re-copy them every few years). How else can you say, "Yes, little Timmy, back in my day, we had games like this!"
8. On Esuna's point: How do I read the manual on my computer while I'm taking a dump?
9. Where's the materials, which - in case of emergency - can be burned to provide warmth? $50 for a box and discs, or $50 for intangible data...My money is on the person with the box living a warmer life once we nuke ourselves to nuclear winter.
10. Way too many people are going to be downloading crap from Steam for the next few months...I enjoy my games lag free (...especially when loading), thanks [plus, 2 weeks to get your game started seems a bit long].
You buy your HL2 on Steam. I'm going to buy mine at Target (...because it's the only store around here that will have it...), and then I'm going to flaunt my box at you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> UHARC the **** out of it if you are THAT anal and save it to a 256 keydrive.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 7 2004, 06:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 7 2004, 06:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Oct 7 2004, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Oct 7 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [stuff]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> UHARC the **** out of it if you are THAT anal and save it to a 256 keydrive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ...I have 6 USB ports, 3 in use and no USB drive.
Aside from that, HL2 will be 2GB compressed, I fit that on a USB drive how, now?
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Oct 7 2004, 08:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Oct 7 2004, 08:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-mirrodin+Oct 7 2004, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mirrodin @ Oct 7 2004, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I prefer a hard-copy (Well, a CD) of things in case EVERYTHING CRASHES...
Say my Steam account explodes or gets deleted Say my computer crashes and I have to reformat. I DO NOT want to redownload ALL that stuff. It's like 5 gigs... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Your Steam account goes, your HL2 CD key goes. Cue annoying hassle to earn right to play a game you purchased because of things out of your control. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If my steam account goes, I snap a picture of my purchase receipt, send it to valve, and bang, got my stuff back. If I lose the jewel case to HL2, then I'm....screwed?
<!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Oct 7 2004, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Oct 7 2004, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CD Burners...hmmm?
1. I don't havea spare $25 to spend on a CD burner. In fact, the only drive I have is a DVD-Rom drive that sounds like it's going to shatter the disc that's in there whenever it starts spinning.
2. There's currently a 20GB HDD where the second CD-Rom drive would go.
3. Discs are expensive, if I had $25, the thing would be useless, because I'd have no discs.
4. My computer was made by Compaq, and is liable to explode in the near future.
5. I'd need software to split the 3.5gigs on to different discs, which doesn't seem very feasible to me, in which case - I'd need a DVD burner...and they're most certainly not $25.
6. The internet connection at school here sucks more than a Hoover. I get a measily 80kb/s with Steam (yea, that's a whole 8 kilobytes a second, woot for 56k speed T1s...bastard ResNet). So, if I get to reformat, I get to not download the game effectively (and the only reason 90% of it's on my HDD anyway is because I downloaded it back at home).
7. If steam ever goes down and you format your drive afterwards you can kiss your HL2 goodbye. Whereas a disc could be hacked to at least let you still play the game in 20 years (assuming you take good care of those CDs, or re-copy them every few years). How else can you say, "Yes, little Timmy, back in my day, we had games like this!"
8. On Esuna's point: How do I read the manual on my computer while I'm taking a dump?
9. Where's the materials, which - in case of emergency - can be burned to provide warmth? $50 for a box and discs, or $50 for intangible data...My money is on the person with the box living a warmer life once we nuke ourselves to nuclear winter.
10. Way too many people are going to be downloading crap from Steam for the next few months...I enjoy my games lag free (...especially when loading), thanks [plus, 2 weeks to get your game started seems a bit long].
You buy your HL2 on Steam. I'm going to buy mine at Target (...because it's the only store around here that will have it...), and then I'm going to flaunt my box at you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 1: Meh. Don't expect them to get any cheaper though 2: Put it where the DVD-Rom drive is.. or get a combo drive 3: I can get them for little more than 50cents Canadian. How is that expensive? 4: Okay, that is a good point. meh. You get what you paid for 5: WinRar. 6: If your connection at school sucks, talk to who ever might be incharge of it to see if they can do anything... 7: If you format your drive you just use the CD backups you made of the steam GCF files with the help of WinRar to make them smaller =P As for when Steam goes down, I don't forsee that in the near future, and when it does happens, one could probably bet on someone emulating it fairly soon after... If not a fair bit before <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> 8: Ever heard of those things called Printers? They are these magical devices that allow you to transfer digital text on to paper. You might want to look into one. They really are quite facinating. 9: Er.. Considering the kind of paper those boxes are made of, you have an entire 5 seconds more heat than me. Oh nose. After the heat you'll be colder than before anyways. 10: Considering people have already been downloading parts of HL2 off steam without much trouble, I would think that this is a null point.. Anyways, as long as I get the preload finished before its released, the state of Steams Bandwidth will have nothing to do with my single player experiance.
You buy your HL2 at Target. While you're driving there, finding the game, waiting in line, driving back then installing, I shall be playing the actual game, Which I find more enjoyable than a box.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1: Meh. Don't expect them to get any cheaper though<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Cheapest CD-RW drive on bestbuy.com: $39.99.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2: Put it where the DVD-Rom drive is.. or get a combo drive<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Even more expensive <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->3: I can get them for little more than 50cents Canadian. How is that expensive?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's like...3 packages of Ramen Noodles.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->6: If your connection at school sucks, talk to who ever might be incharge of it to see if they can do anything...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope, they can't. They sit their over the networking equipment going, "Oh god, giving people crappy internet makes me so hot."
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->8: Ever heard of those things called Printers? They are these magical devices that allow you to transfer digital text on to paper. You might want to look into one. They really are quite facinating.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's not convienent "Travel to the Bathroom" size. Who wants to walk to the bathroom with a bundle of 50 regular sized papers...plus use the ink on those papers?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->9: Er.. Considering the kind of paper those boxes are made of, you have an entire 5 seconds more heat than me. Oh nose. After the heat you'll be colder than before anyways.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Don't come to me when the nuclear winter comes and you have no HL2 box to burn...how you figure I'll be colder, I'll never know.
Release of chemical energy as heat-> increase of heat energy in the system-> increase in average kinetic energy, decrease in potential energy.
Crazy people <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Now, aside from that, I would buy on steam if they just gave me the complete assurance it'd be always available to me for the end of time. Plus the whole..."YOU MUST UNLOCK OVER STEAM" system makes me angry...
I said UHARC it. Its an ultra compression method that is extremely nice. I saw some programs of questionable legality compressed from 2.4GB down to near 240mb.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I said UHARC it. Its an ultra compression method that is extremely nice. I saw some programs of questionable legality compressed from 2.4GB down to near 240mb. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already.
<!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Oct 8 2004, 01:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Oct 8 2004, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I said UHARC it. Its an ultra compression method that is extremely nice. I saw some programs of questionable legality compressed from 2.4GB down to near 240mb. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It dosent cost a dime, and honestly if you cant afford a cd-rw and a pack of disks how are you using a computer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 8 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 8 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Oct 8 2004, 01:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Oct 8 2004, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I said UHARC it. Its an ultra compression method that is extremely nice. I saw some programs of questionable legality compressed from 2.4GB down to near 240mb. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It dosent cost a dime, and honestly if you cant afford a cd-rw and a pack of disks how are you using a computer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dunno, but my computer I've had for 3 months has a DVD-RW that hasn't been used once. (as in burning a dvd), and I haven't paid a cent for any CD that I have burned. Mmmmm stealed media...
Btw, does anyone know if they turned off mouse acceleration in CS: S? For some reason, I suck a lot more at CS, but my friend suddenly got a lot better.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 8 2004, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 8 2004, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-UltimaGecko+Oct 8 2004, 01:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Oct 8 2004, 01:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Oct 8 2004, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I said UHARC it. Its an ultra compression method that is extremely nice. I saw some programs of questionable legality compressed from 2.4GB down to near 240mb. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It dosent cost a dime, and honestly if you cant afford a cd-rw and a pack of disks how are you using a computer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ...Compaq.
<span style='color:orange'>UltimaGecko's computer bursts into flames.</span>
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uuuuuuh ( when browsing games in steam )
it's out... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
1. I don't havea spare $25 to spend on a CD burner. In fact, the only drive I have is a DVD-Rom drive that sounds like it's going to shatter the disc that's in there whenever it starts spinning.
2. There's currently a 20GB HDD where the second CD-Rom drive would go.
3. Discs are expensive, if I had $25, the thing would be useless, because I'd have no discs.
4. My computer was made by Compaq, and is liable to explode in the near future.
5. I'd need software to split the 3.5gigs on to different discs, which doesn't seem very feasible to me, in which case - I'd need a DVD burner...and they're most certainly not $25.
6. The internet connection at school here sucks more than a Hoover. I get a measily 80kb/s with Steam (yea, that's a whole 8 kilobytes a second, woot for 56k speed T1s...bastard ResNet). So, if I get to reformat, I get to not download the game effectively (and the only reason 90% of it's on my HDD anyway is because I downloaded it back at home).
7. If steam ever goes down and you format your drive afterwards you can kiss your HL2 goodbye. Whereas a disc could be hacked to at least let you still play the game in 20 years (assuming you take good care of those CDs, or re-copy them every few years). How else can you say, "Yes, little Timmy, back in my day, we had games like this!"
8. On Esuna's point: How do I read the manual on my computer while I'm taking a dump?
9. Where's the materials, which - in case of emergency - can be burned to provide warmth? $50 for a box and discs, or $50 for intangible data...My money is on the person with the box living a warmer life once we nuke ourselves to nuclear winter.
10. Way too many people are going to be downloading crap from Steam for the next few months...I enjoy my games lag free (...especially when loading), thanks [plus, 2 weeks to get your game started seems a bit long].
You buy your HL2 on Steam. I'm going to buy mine at Target (...because it's the only store around here that will have it...), and then I'm going to flaunt my box at you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Mark your calanders folks, this is the first time in history Valve has managed to actually hit a promised date the first time they promised it!
And its a good thing I didn't bet Boba Fett :O
1. I don't havea spare $25 to spend on a CD burner. In fact, the only drive I have is a DVD-Rom drive that sounds like it's going to shatter the disc that's in there whenever it starts spinning.
2. There's currently a 20GB HDD where the second CD-Rom drive would go.
3. Discs are expensive, if I had $25, the thing would be useless, because I'd have no discs.
4. My computer was made by Compaq, and is liable to explode in the near future.
5. I'd need software to split the 3.5gigs on to different discs, which doesn't seem very feasible to me, in which case - I'd need a DVD burner...and they're most certainly not $25.
6. The internet connection at school here sucks more than a Hoover. I get a measily 80kb/s with Steam (yea, that's a whole 8 kilobytes a second, woot for 56k speed T1s...bastard ResNet). So, if I get to reformat, I get to not download the game effectively (and the only reason 90% of it's on my HDD anyway is because I downloaded it back at home).
7. If steam ever goes down and you format your drive afterwards you can kiss your HL2 goodbye. Whereas a disc could be hacked to at least let you still play the game in 20 years (assuming you take good care of those CDs, or re-copy them every few years). How else can you say, "Yes, little Timmy, back in my day, we had games like this!"
8. On Esuna's point: How do I read the manual on my computer while I'm taking a dump?
9. Where's the materials, which - in case of emergency - can be burned to provide warmth? $50 for a box and discs, or $50 for intangible data...My money is on the person with the box living a warmer life once we nuke ourselves to nuclear winter.
10. Way too many people are going to be downloading crap from Steam for the next few months...I enjoy my games lag free (...especially when loading), thanks [plus, 2 weeks to get your game started seems a bit long].
You buy your HL2 on Steam. I'm going to buy mine at Target (...because it's the only store around here that will have it...), and then I'm going to flaunt my box at you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
UHARC the **** out of it if you are THAT anal and save it to a 256 keydrive.
UHARC the **** out of it if you are THAT anal and save it to a 256 keydrive. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
...I have 6 USB ports, 3 in use and no USB drive.
Aside from that, HL2 will be 2GB compressed, I fit that on a USB drive how, now?
Say my Steam account explodes or gets deleted
Say my computer crashes and I have to reformat. I DO NOT want to redownload ALL that stuff. It's like 5 gigs... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your Steam account goes, your HL2 CD key goes. Cue annoying hassle to earn right to play a game you purchased because of things out of your control. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If my steam account goes, I snap a picture of my purchase receipt, send it to valve, and bang, got my stuff back. If I lose the jewel case to HL2, then I'm....screwed?
1. I don't havea spare $25 to spend on a CD burner. In fact, the only drive I have is a DVD-Rom drive that sounds like it's going to shatter the disc that's in there whenever it starts spinning.
2. There's currently a 20GB HDD where the second CD-Rom drive would go.
3. Discs are expensive, if I had $25, the thing would be useless, because I'd have no discs.
4. My computer was made by Compaq, and is liable to explode in the near future.
5. I'd need software to split the 3.5gigs on to different discs, which doesn't seem very feasible to me, in which case - I'd need a DVD burner...and they're most certainly not $25.
6. The internet connection at school here sucks more than a Hoover. I get a measily 80kb/s with Steam (yea, that's a whole 8 kilobytes a second, woot for 56k speed T1s...bastard ResNet). So, if I get to reformat, I get to not download the game effectively (and the only reason 90% of it's on my HDD anyway is because I downloaded it back at home).
7. If steam ever goes down and you format your drive afterwards you can kiss your HL2 goodbye. Whereas a disc could be hacked to at least let you still play the game in 20 years (assuming you take good care of those CDs, or re-copy them every few years). How else can you say, "Yes, little Timmy, back in my day, we had games like this!"
8. On Esuna's point: How do I read the manual on my computer while I'm taking a dump?
9. Where's the materials, which - in case of emergency - can be burned to provide warmth? $50 for a box and discs, or $50 for intangible data...My money is on the person with the box living a warmer life once we nuke ourselves to nuclear winter.
10. Way too many people are going to be downloading crap from Steam for the next few months...I enjoy my games lag free (...especially when loading), thanks [plus, 2 weeks to get your game started seems a bit long].
You buy your HL2 on Steam. I'm going to buy mine at Target (...because it's the only store around here that will have it...), and then I'm going to flaunt my box at you <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1: Meh. Don't expect them to get any cheaper though
2: Put it where the DVD-Rom drive is.. or get a combo drive
3: I can get them for little more than 50cents Canadian. How is that expensive?
4: Okay, that is a good point. meh. You get what you paid for
5: WinRar.
6: If your connection at school sucks, talk to who ever might be incharge of it to see if they can do anything...
7: If you format your drive you just use the CD backups you made of the steam GCF files with the help of WinRar to make them smaller =P
As for when Steam goes down, I don't forsee that in the near future, and when it does happens, one could probably bet on someone emulating it fairly soon after... If not a fair bit before <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
8: Ever heard of those things called Printers? They are these magical devices that allow you to transfer digital text on to paper. You might want to look into one. They really are quite facinating.
9: Er.. Considering the kind of paper those boxes are made of, you have an entire 5 seconds more heat than me. Oh nose. After the heat you'll be colder than before anyways.
10: Considering people have already been downloading parts of HL2 off steam without much trouble, I would think that this is a null point.. Anyways, as long as I get the preload finished before its released, the state of Steams Bandwidth will have nothing to do with my single player experiance.
You buy your HL2 at Target. While you're driving there, finding the game, waiting in line, driving back then installing, I shall be playing the actual game, Which I find more enjoyable than a box.
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Cheapest CD-RW drive on bestbuy.com: $39.99.
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Even more expensive <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
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That's like...3 packages of Ramen Noodles.
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Nope, they can't. They sit their over the networking equipment going, "Oh god, giving people crappy internet makes me so hot."
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That's not convienent "Travel to the Bathroom" size. Who wants to walk to the bathroom with a bundle of 50 regular sized papers...plus use the ink on those papers?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->9: Er.. Considering the kind of paper those boxes are made of, you have an entire 5 seconds more heat than me. Oh nose. After the heat you'll be colder than before anyways.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Don't come to me when the nuclear winter comes and you have no HL2 box to burn...how you figure I'll be colder, I'll never know.
Release of chemical energy as heat-> increase of heat energy in the system-> increase in average kinetic energy, decrease in potential energy.
Crazy people <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Now, aside from that, I would buy on steam if they just gave me the complete assurance it'd be always available to me for the end of time. Plus the whole..."YOU MUST UNLOCK OVER STEAM" system makes me angry...
...and you wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:green'>BRRRROWWWWR!</span></span>
That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already.
That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It dosent cost a dime, and honestly if you cant afford a cd-rw and a pack of disks how are you using a computer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It dosent cost a dime, and honestly if you cant afford a cd-rw and a pack of disks how are you using a computer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dunno, but my computer I've had for 3 months has a DVD-RW that hasn't been used once. (as in burning a dvd), and I haven't paid a cent for any CD that I have burned. Mmmmm stealed media...
Btw, does anyone know if they turned off mouse acceleration in CS: S? For some reason, I suck a lot more at CS, but my friend suddenly got a lot better.
That seems like it'd be expensive to get the program...sure you've got your rar-ing and zip-ing with free trials all over the place, but something with such an efficiency would probably cost a ton.
Plus, I think it was 2.0gb compressed, 3.5gb uncompressed. And I don't think, despite how nice it sounds, it can compress something that's been compressed so much already. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It dosent cost a dime, and honestly if you cant afford a cd-rw and a pack of disks how are you using a computer. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
...Compaq.
<span style='color:orange'>UltimaGecko's computer bursts into flames.</span>