So, No More Bhop? :(
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Join Date: 2003-11-28 Member: 23688
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skulks are fecked now
imo the aliens, especially the skulks almost NEED bhop, without it there to slow and even when they are bhoping there easily took down, gonna be even easier now if they cant bhop at all <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i dont mind other scripts like pistol scripts being banned but not my 3 jump script <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
imo the aliens, especially the skulks almost NEED bhop, without it there to slow and even when they are bhoping there easily took down, gonna be even easier now if they cant bhop at all <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i dont mind other scripts like pistol scripts being banned but not my 3 jump script <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Where we didn't rely on scripts to do a leap+bite or bunny hop. We just did it with our own reaction times and through lots of practice and fast moving.
Try it that way.
If scripts don't work, the server admin purposly enabled it.
Where we didn't rely on scripts to do a leap+bite or bunny hop. We just did it with our own reaction times and through lots of practice and fast moving.
Try it that way.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a rather <span style='color:white'>prejudiced</span> statement against someone that just wants to play with a different set of controls. I fail to see how binding my mwheel to jump and using an alias that has jump 3 times are that much different, or how one requires anymore <i>skill</i> than the other. As for me, I haven't really knowticed, I use mousewheel and I can't tell any difference, but I've had people tell me the skulk feels sluggish.
<span style='color:gray'>*edit: racism is a different thing entirely. be careful with that word, some people react to it in bad ways.</span>
<Align> I hate blockscripts tbh
<Align> Id rather the pistolscripters get their fill and I can use my upgrade binds than use the menu so bloody much
<Align> I mean "alias +hax; totehmax; wait wait wait; what?" I can understand, but "impulse 101; impulse 75" ?
Funnily enough, romanos lastinv script still works, and that one has tons of semicolons and aliases and shizzle.
<Align> I hate blockscripts tbh
<Align> Id rather the pistolscripters get their fill and I can use my upgrade binds than use the menu so bloody much
<Align> I mean "alias +hax; totehmax; wait wait wait; what?" I can understand, but "impulse 101; impulse 75" ?
Funnily enough, romanos lastinv script still works, and that one has tons of semicolons and aliases and shizzle. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Scripting only blocks keys that are directly bound with ";'s" in them, they wont block an alias that issues multiple commands unless it has repeating commands in it.
If you want upgrade binds, do this:
alias someupgrade "impulse x;impulse x"
Where we didn't rely on scripts to do a leap+bite or bunny hop. We just did it with our own reaction times and through lots of practice and fast moving.
Try it that way.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a rather <span style='color:white'>prejudiced</span> statement against someone that just wants to play with a different set of controls. I fail to see how binding my mwheel to jump and using an alias that has jump 3 times are that much different, or how one requires anymore <i>skill</i> than the other. As for me, I haven't really knowticed, I use mousewheel and I can't tell any difference, but I've had people tell me the skulk feels sluggish.
<span style='color:gray'>*edit: racism is a different thing entirely. be careful with that word, some people react to it in bad ways.</span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, did he actually say raciest?
k then.
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Anyway - it requires more skill because you have to press the button 2 more times. You may think .. "oh, wow, big deal, it's only 2 times." But when is enough enough? When you can press one button and do five? ten?
It needed to have an end put to it and it did. I for one, couldn't be happier. And it's not a 'different set of controls'. It's pressing 1 button and having multiple commands executed at the same time. By you're logic, I could create a vast number of scripts, limiting my input into the computer nearly completely to make a nearly bot like gaming environment. Yea, sounds just like NSPlayers control settings here.
Odd, that.
Its an engine command, cant be removed. Not sure how to block it.
k then.
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Oh how we laughed...
Moving on.
Since when do you 'press' the scrollwheel multiple times? You spin it once in a motion similar to a single click or keypress.
If you can't fire your pistol fast enough, practice till you get better or just be content with the fact you suck. I suck. I'm horrible at NS. Just ask Flayra or Monse .. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
What ever happened to that limy bastard Monse anyway? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The timeing gets and feels much different when you're bhopping at 17 fps. Try it without +3jumps or mwheel. Tell me how much fun you're having.
Maybe if I were some rich **** who could afford a computer than gets 10000 fps, then yes, I wouldn't have any problems at all with this, but right now all it does is even the playing field.
I'd better get more skill (ask for a raise)
EDIT:
I'm talking to Forlorn, and he tells me to post this:
Oh and by the way, you can't actually dismiss scripts untill you are a good player.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> scripts for teh loose, enlightenment for the win<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Theres this thing we used to have back in the early, early NS days called skill.
Where we didn't rely on scripts to do a leap+bite or bunny hop. We just did it with our own reaction times and through lots of practice and fast moving.
Try it that way.
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You wanna have a skill debate?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Anyway - it requires more skill because you have to press the button 2 more times. You may think .. "oh, wow, big deal, it's only 2 times." But when is enough enough? When you can press one button and do five? ten?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> then learn to bhop without a script, or use stealth and teamwork.
Odd, that.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You wouldn't know good teamwork if it slapped your face
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can bhop pretty decenly without +3jump. happy days!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wonder how this will effect people like #cri. who are more scripts than person sitting at a computer?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What this last statement is supposd to mean is beyond me.
By the way, wanna see some skill? Let me point you to some high calibur HLTV demo's of the last CAL finals. There we see good aim and good movement skill. Please tell me how scripts played the entire 45 min round for me.
<a href='ftp://ns:ns@cri-hacks.com/' target='_blank'>FTP link.</a>
1. That is called a bad player, if a HMG ever loses to a skulk. In fact, horrible player.
2. You can't bhop. I've seen you play and you can't bhop, so how can you say "I can bhop without scripts!!!1" when the fact is you can't bhop with scripts?
both of these were members of team LOVE, on a round on ns_veil. not exactly what Id call horrible players, just smart skulking.
both of these were members of team LOVE, on a round on ns_veil. not exactly what Id call horrible players, just smart skulking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What in the world is team LOVE? I hate to sound arrogant but if they aren't in CAL or good in CAL it is <b>very</b> safe to assume they are terrible players.
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I just *dont* bhop, just because I choose not to do something doesnt mean I cant do something :S
both of these were members of team LOVE, on a round on ns_veil. not exactly what Id call horrible players, just smart skulking. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What in the world is team LOVE? I hate to sound arrogant but if they aren't in CAL or good in CAL it is <b>very</b> safe to assume they are terrible players. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe if you stopped opening your mouth you wouldnt look so stupid :S
Where we didn't rely on scripts to do a leap+bite or bunny hop. We just did it with our own reaction times and through lots of practice and fast moving.
Try it that way.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's a rather <span style='color:white'>prejudiced</span> statement against someone that just wants to play with a different set of controls. I fail to see how binding my mwheel to jump and using an alias that has jump 3 times are that much different, or how one requires anymore <i>skill</i> than the other. As for me, I haven't really knowticed, I use mousewheel and I can't tell any difference, but I've had people tell me the skulk feels sluggish.
<span style='color:gray'>*edit: racism is a different thing entirely. be careful with that word, some people react to it in bad ways.</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, did he actually say raciest?
k then.
www.dictionary.com
Anyway - it requires more skill because you have to press the button 2 more times. You may think .. "oh, wow, big deal, it's only 2 times." But when is enough enough? When you can press one button and do five? ten?
It needed to have an end put to it and it did. I for one, couldn't be happier. And it's not a 'different set of controls'. It's pressing 1 button and having multiple commands executed at the same time. By you're logic, I could create a vast number of scripts, limiting my input into the computer nearly completely to make a nearly bot like gaming environment. Yea, sounds just like NSPlayers control settings here.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Btw raci<b>e</b>st? Dictionary.com pr0 lol
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race</a>
<b>4. Humans considered as a group.</b>
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism' target='_blank'>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism</a>
<b>2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.</b>
Viewing humans that use scripts as "scripters" I think places them into one group, and then telling him he's inferior because he "doesn't have as much skill" by using a simple script. I think that sets it up as racism, maybe that's too strong a word, I'm sorry if it is.
While I don't use any kind of bhop script, I just think it was rude to shoot a simple question down with "LOL IM BETTER I DONT USE SCRIPTS".
Btw, when did clicking = skill?