Id think decompilin is a bigger mistake <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Aug 12 2004, 04:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Aug 12 2004, 04:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nexus- set the Start Built tag on the CC as your first re-release fix <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Aug 12 2004, 04:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Aug 12 2004, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ..do you think we're some kind of space robots mapping all day with unlimited inspiration?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well now.. that's what I get talking to my g/f while posting a reply... in the like, 10 min it took me to write that, there were around 10 new posts...
*sighs*
@ Nexus- Well, you have a small chance to try to redeem yourself... re-build the parts you decompiled YOURSELF... look at the decompiled parts and study them.. see how they were made, but then try to re-create it smoother without all the weirded brushes! I can understand why you decompile... it's tempting at times to take a chunck of kick **** architecture out of a pre-made map... but just remember... it's NOT worth it...
If you have the ability to decopile, re-size, re-texture, and basicly re-build the 1 unit thick brushes, surely you can take some time to become skilled with making all that stuff yourself...
<!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Aug 12 2004, 04:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Aug 12 2004, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Wither+Aug 12 2004, 05:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wither @ Aug 12 2004, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mendasp+Aug 12 2004, 04:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mendasp @ Aug 12 2004, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ..do you think we're some kind of space robots mapping all day with unlimited inspiration?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> PAK CHOOIE UNF
I AM HERE TO PROTECT YOU
PAK CHOOIE
QUESTION: DO YOU HAVE STAIRS IN YOUR HOUSE
PAK CHOOIE UNF <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Space has a terrible power <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> And no. No stairs here.
But yeah enough spammage. Dear mister Nexus, apparently you have decompiled a lot of stuff before. This is bad. Please map for yourself and do not rip other people's work without their permission, and even so, it is lame. H8.
sorry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> *shutups and run aways, i will never come back. Sorry this was my fault.*
nexus dude, if ur gonna decompile, dont just slap it into ur map, look at in VHE if u have to, understand it more, then try and recreate it for ur map.
Its a shame coz ur map was looking really gud, in places that were blantently not decompiled.
Keep at it, i kno alot of people dont like what ur doing but it'll be a shame if u left u are good u just give into ur temptations.
The best thing to do is open up NS and take screenies of all the things u thing look good, then study them.
Oh and delete WinBSP and BSP2MAP from ur computer =]
In short dont leave, just keep at it, ur work wont be to the standard of most people here but thats coz most people here have been mapping for years. Just keep trying and u'll get better, take on comments and work to make things better dont just give up.
It when you use what you decompiled in your map... that's unacceptable
If you must figure out how to make something, decompile it, look at it, and try to re-create it... if you can't do it, ask for help. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Wow. Another decompile. This is actually quite amazing. If you had two switches for a mouse to press, one for food and another for an electric shock, the mouse would learn after the 2nd or 3rd attempt not to press the shock switch. This is what, the 3rd or 4th decompile? Humans generally have a higher capacity for learning than common mice, but evidently that's not true in this particular case...
Edit: Also, if you need to see how something was made, you STILL don't need to decompile. Just open up NS, and LOOK at it. If you still can't figure it out, turn on wireframe. Not that hard.
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
hmm no download 2 bad I wanted to see how bad it was and maybe even recognize some part from other maps if this decompile thing is true... oh well <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited August 2004
Those two screenshots could be proof. Still what did he decompile there... thats whats bothering me, since I dont recognize any of it from eclipse or veil.
[edit] Thats why it also could be bad brush design, since nexus did decompile other maps. So maybe he thinks that is the way half-life maps are supposed to be build <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Kouji San+Aug 12 2004, 10:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kouji San @ Aug 12 2004, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those two screenshots could be proof. Still what did he decompile there... thats whats bothering me, since I dont recognize any of it from eclipse or veil.
[edit] Thats why it also could be bad brush design, since nexus did decompile other maps. So maybe he thinks that is the way half-life maps are supposed to be build <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> He has already admitted, give it up. Nexus hasn't changed one bit, he is still a decompiler.
<!--QuoteBegin-Kouji San+Aug 12 2004, 10:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kouji San @ Aug 12 2004, 10:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Those two screenshots could be proof. Still what did he decompile there... thats whats bothering me, since I dont recognize any of it from eclipse or veil.
[edit] Thats why it also could be bad brush design, since nexus did decompile other maps. So maybe he thinks that is the way half-life maps are supposed to be build <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It doesn't ever matter anymore, he said he did it. Case closed.
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
Ok after reading the thread once more and the fact that he admited to it. I'm convinced.
Decompiled...
Mods should lock this thread and should concider a bann maybe for nexus. I mean he has had enough warnings and this apologizing or apology threads are even **** me of, which is very hard to do I might add, if the person in question doesnt mean it <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I was trying to remember Nexus' story in this forum, and suddenly thought of <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75991&st=15' target='_blank'>this reply by Nemesis Zero</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jul 24 2004--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jul 24 2004)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, now that everyone had an opportunity of pointing and laughing at Nexus, realize that I won't tolerate the belittling of <i>any</i> of our members. He screwed up, yes, and if he does again, he'll be gone for good, but until then, I'd highly suggest you treat him with a little more respect.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<img src='http://www.rent-direct.com/nyc_apartments/animated_clock.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> I'm waiting for Nem to come through <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Comments
Easy mistake eh? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's a tip: read page 2.
..do you think we're some kind of space robots mapping all day with unlimited inspiration?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes.
Well now.. that's what I get talking to my g/f while posting a reply... in the like, 10 min it took me to write that, there were around 10 new posts...
*sighs*
@ Nexus- Well, you have a small chance to try to redeem yourself... re-build the parts you decompiled YOURSELF... look at the decompiled parts and study them.. see how they were made, but then try to re-create it smoother without all the weirded brushes! I can understand why you decompile... it's tempting at times to take a chunck of kick **** architecture out of a pre-made map... but just remember... it's NOT worth it...
If you have the ability to decopile, re-size, re-texture, and basicly re-build the 1 unit thick brushes, surely you can take some time to become skilled with making all that stuff yourself...
..do you think we're some kind of space robots mapping all day with unlimited inspiration?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
PAK CHOOIE UNF
I AM HERE TO PROTECT YOU
PAK CHOOIE
QUESTION: DO YOU HAVE STAIRS IN YOUR HOUSE
PAK CHOOIE UNF
..do you think we're some kind of space robots mapping all day with unlimited inspiration?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
PAK CHOOIE UNF
I AM HERE TO PROTECT YOU
PAK CHOOIE
QUESTION: DO YOU HAVE STAIRS IN YOUR HOUSE
PAK CHOOIE UNF <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Space has a terrible power <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> And no. No stairs here.
But yeah enough spammage. Dear mister Nexus, apparently you have decompiled a lot of stuff before. This is bad. Please map for yourself and do not rip other people's work without their permission, and even so, it is lame. H8.
If you actually are sorry for compiling, don't do it again, otherwise noone will have respect for you other than 'the newb mapper'
WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOU.
WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE.
Again?
Just keep trying.. I know some ppl here have been mapping back since HL mapping first startedt!
*glares around*
Its a shame coz ur map was looking really gud, in places that were blantently not decompiled.
Keep at it, i kno alot of people dont like what ur doing but it'll be a shame if u left u are good u just give into ur temptations.
The best thing to do is open up NS and take screenies of all the things u thing look good, then study them.
Oh and delete WinBSP and BSP2MAP from ur computer =]
In short dont leave, just keep at it, ur work wont be to the standard of most people here but thats coz most people here have been mapping for years. Just keep trying and u'll get better, take on comments and work to make things better dont just give up.
It when you use what you decompiled in your map... that's unacceptable
If you must figure out how to make something, decompile it, look at it, and try to re-create it... if you can't do it, ask for help. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Edit: Also, if you need to see how something was made, you STILL don't need to decompile. Just open up NS, and LOOK at it. If you still can't figure it out, turn on wireframe. Not that hard.
But this had better be for real this time when you say you're gone...
*blinks*
Giggle <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*wonders if that is a tall guy after all*
I believe you speak for everyone here.
Need any more proof Kouji San?
<img src='http://mendasp.thezazi.net/lolgendolol.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
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Thats why it also could be bad brush design, since nexus did decompile other maps. So maybe he thinks that is the way half-life maps are supposed to be build <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[edit]
Thats why it also could be bad brush design, since nexus did decompile other maps. So maybe he thinks that is the way half-life maps are supposed to be build <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
He has already admitted, give it up. Nexus hasn't changed one bit, he is still a decompiler.
[edit]
Thats why it also could be bad brush design, since nexus did decompile other maps. So maybe he thinks that is the way half-life maps are supposed to be build <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It doesn't ever matter anymore, he said he did it. Case closed.
Decompiled...
Mods should lock this thread and should concider a bann maybe for nexus. I mean he has had enough warnings and this apologizing or apology threads are even **** me of, which is very hard to do I might add, if the person in question doesnt mean it <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jul 24 2004--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jul 24 2004)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, now that everyone had an opportunity of pointing and laughing at Nexus, realize that I won't tolerate the belittling of <i>any</i> of our members. He screwed up, yes, and if he does again, he'll be gone for good, but until then, I'd highly suggest you treat him with a little more respect.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm waiting for Nem to come through <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->