[mwip]high-definition Fade

frostymoose · June 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">more like the original concept...</div> Well, here is the finished model of a fade I started a few weeks ago and have been working on pretty lazily. It weighs in at 1860 triangles (a bit less than double the default fade)
model in wings 3d and Lightwave. I'll start UVs tonight or tomorrow. Hopefully I can texture it well enough on my own, but I will need a <b>good</b> and <b>skilled</b> animator to rig and finish him off. I plan on doing nicer versions of every other kharraa as well.

any comments?

ps: I'm wearing a black foam hat.

Ratonetwothreetwoone · June 2004

looks sweet...

id add more tubes tho <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

it just looks a little plain for some reason

maybe if you give it a good skin

frostymoose · June 2004

I'll probably add a tube or two when I figure out how to make some nice and clean ones that aren't just intersecting geometry.

antifreeze · June 2004

very nice model, i like it and would use it.

I agree though, a few more tubes and detail though.

Drfuzzy · June 2004

Looking good, smoothing is a little rough around the feet and the face looks a bit off for some reason.

TheUdderOne · June 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>ps: I'm wearing a black foam hat.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

i'm not the only one?

Nice model. Should look wicked with a nice skin.

Nice 1

Supernorn · June 2004

Looking very good.

1: The fades head is a bit skulkish, perhaps flatten it ever so slightly.
2: You could add more detail in the chest area like modelling the rib cage, etc.
3: The Fade has a mini-tail like tube coming out of its back, which seems to be
missing from your version.

I'll be using this when you finish it.

frostymoose · June 2004

I was going to model the ribcage, but it would be more polys for something you can't really see with HLs lack of shadowing on models. I will add more tubes (workign on that right now). I may or may not put in the hanging tube on the right side of his arse. it looks a bit silly and not in the concept. I'll play around with the head a bit to make it more flat...I'll be back with updates in not so long.

BlackPanther · June 2004

Looking good.
I'd make the transition from claw to skin a bit more straight.
Also, the acid rocket thingy looks a bit too small.

Keep up the good work!

Chrono · June 2004

sexilant

BigBull · June 2004

question is:

Who would animate this?

Or why not default anims <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

frostymoose · June 2004

default anims would work, however this doesn't fit on the skeleton. The default fade is ugly and looks very little like the original and kickass concept. if the default animations and skeleton could be tweaked onto this, then i'd be all for it.

SWAT_Pointman · June 2004

This is sexual healing.Sombody has to mesh this.

BigBull · June 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (frostymoose @ Jun 6 2004, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> default anims would work, however this doesn't fit on the skeleton. The default fade is ugly and looks very little like the original and kickass concept. if the default animations and skeleton could be tweaked onto this, then i'd be all for it.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Nice avatar

frostymoose · June 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jun 6 2004, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (frostymoose @ Jun 6 2004, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> default anims would work, however this doesn't fit on the skeleton. The default fade is ugly and looks very little like the original and kickass concept. if the default animations and skeleton could be tweaked onto this, then i'd be all for it. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Nice avatar </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
right back at ya.

as promised...new progress.

-new feet
-flat head
-bigger acid rocket thingie
-more tubilies on the back
-1970 triangles...still reasonable. i make the cut off at 2000, but I don't think i'll have to go that high.

no sexy shaded views with nice edges this time, I didnt feel like re-edging it in wings.

p.s. no longer wearing foam hat
p.p.s. the planes on the face are for alpha teeth.

BigBull · June 2004

AWESOME <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' />

BlackPanther · June 2004

Impressive.

Altough i wouldn't want to be the one UVW mapping it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

Chrono · June 2004

looking better and better whos gonna map it?

SWAT_Pointman · June 2004

He said in the first that he'll UVW map it.

Liku · June 2004

How's that thing balance?

frostymoose · June 2004

ask cory strader

NzNexus · June 2004

Supernorn · June 2004

Looks much better. Keep it up.

Clashen · June 2004

Really great job, i think you should keep the model as it is now and start UV mapping <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

You could probably use the original skin, just tweaking it a bit.

Billy_Silverfish · June 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Clashen @ Jun 7 2004, 01:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You could probably use the original skin, just tweaking it a bit.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Should boost it onto four 512x512 maps for the hell of it. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

frostymoose · June 2004

I was thinking more along the lines of 6 256x256 or at the very most 2 512x512. I did the UVs for the arm last night, so today I'll try and finish up the rest.

BigBull · June 2004

6 meshes will lag the game.

frostymoose · June 2004

Is that an HL thing? I've seen a few pros that go for that way. It doesn't have to be 6, but It's more organized. why will it lag the game though.

Clashen · June 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jun 7 2004, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> 6 meshes will lag the game.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Brig's rine had 11 meshes and it never lagged me.

BigBull · June 2004

It lags the game. Just does.

Sushifx brought this to my attention.

Umm you have a nice computer?
Brigs models always dropped my fps a bit. 5 fps or so..

And plus it was only weapons. When you put it on an alien, such as the fade, where there is alot of them. bleh.

Also <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />
<CoolCookieCooks> but itll suck in detail <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />
<CoolCookieCooks> ill have 3 meshes maximum

Recoup · June 2004

If it does get done and integrated... it'll just be another reason to **** my pants when I see a fade... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

[mwip]high-definition Fade

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