<!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+May 12 2004, 03:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ May 12 2004, 03:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> wow... but why are the combine building a small xbox in the picture you linked? =o <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> AHHAHA, lol...wheeee.........
am I the only one that caught Gem's stab at how large the XBOX is? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hopefully not, but probally only one who burst out laughing at work <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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The new PC Gamer HL2 articles were enough to restore my confidence. Apparently, you can start unscripted fires - often by accident - that will spread on their own and can consume entire buildings. That's enough to make the little pyro in all of us blush with glee.
Can we get an alternate link for the E3 trailer? This also reminds me that I have to file for my free hl2, My pretty coupon <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
Sure you can!...Over in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70661' target='_blank'>this</a> thread.
The game looks ohh-so-nice in motion. The screen shots taken from the video, albeit a bit blurrly, look pretty nice too. The lighting seems a bit wonky though. Alyx (really, who spells their name like that?) and the doc seem to be full-bright (or at least, un shaded - as do some of the walls). Still looks exceptionally fun, and despite the brightness stuff it looks pretty good too.
Whoever put the screenshots up on the site set the Unsharp Mask filter in Adobe Photoshop up too high. The detail has halos - definitely a sign of over-sharpening.
I'm not overly excited about Half Life 2 anymore. The advances that were cheered about in Half Life 2 have already been used in other games. Nothing really new about Half Life 2 any longer, except the progression of the story. I didn't really think the original story was really good enough to warrant a sequel, but eh, I guess the sales "demanded" it.
I can only do one thing : Buy Half-Life 2...Play it from start to finish..Take the game and burn it up if it sucks and pray for it everyday if it rocks.
And yes because i'm very very special boy..I wanna cheat in HL2 emediatly when it have come out. So i buy the game..Types in the "last level" of the games end and then i know the hl2 big story..And now relax, Half-life 3 is the next game coming. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 13 2004, 12:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 13 2004, 12:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And yes because i'm very very special boy..I wanna cheat in HL2 emediatly when it have come out. So i buy the game..Types in the "last level" of the games end and then i know the hl2 big story..And now relax, Half-life 3 is the next game coming. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why not purchase the Strategy Guide for Half Life 2, which has been available on Amazon.com for months now?
If you know..This month is mapping tools out and the source in a SDK for us who like mapping and moddeling. Who wanna make mods for HL2?
I Hopes FLayra get HL2 and starting NS2 on source engine. HOpes i hopes!!! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Everyone the PR blitz has started. I hate to link you to the steam site, but check <a href='http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=108450550953846300' target='_blank'>this out</a>
<!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 13 2004, 11:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 13 2004, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Could you repeat that one more time? I'm not retarded yet.
Is the game Freee? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's only a 2d side scrolling game...if they made you pay I doubt anyone would buy it...thus I'll have to say it's free (or Valve is crazier than I thought).
When they let me get a HL2 box with Alyx or Gordon on the front, then I'll be excited. Otherwise, I'll just entertain myself with the E3 2003 and E3 2004 videos (if only Gamespy's video quality didn't suck so much compared to the Gamespot ones I can't get).
(by the way: that quote is from Jon Stewart on the Daily Show [Comedy Central](my only source for news <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> !), when someone - I think it was Bush - was repeating something over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, etc. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 12 2004, 02:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 12 2004, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not overly excited about Half Life 2 anymore. The advances that were cheered about in Half Life 2 have already been used in other games. Nothing really new about Half Life 2 any longer, except the progression of the story. I didn't really think the original story was really good enough to warrant a sequel, but eh, I guess the sales "demanded" it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats like saying that a porche isn't cool because other cars used an internal combustion engine before it. As far as use of the physics engine goes, you don't have to look very hard into those demos to see things that valve has done that niether farcry or painkiller have touched.
Although I had fun pushing barrels down the stairs in farcry, I can't wait to play with the gravity gun in HL2. Combine that with the potential power of the material system...
Nothing like that Swiftspear! Valve touted <b>only</b> the effects and engine of Half Life 2, and very little to nothing of the story. <b>All</b> I have is the stuff shown in the videos over which to get excited. When the videos were originally shown, the effects were new and revolutionary. But they're old now. Nothing is new about Half Life 2 now, and since we have nothing going for the story, what then?
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 14 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 14 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nothing like that Swiftspear! Valve touted <b>only</b> the effects and engine of Half Life 2, and very little to nothing of the story. <b>All</b> I have is the stuff shown in the videos over which to get excited. When the videos were originally shown, the effects were new and revolutionary. But they're old now. Nothing is new about Half Life 2 now, and since we have nothing going for the story, what then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The character speech system is still unparalled, and besides that there's the fact that it's Half-Life <i>2</i> and the E3 2004 video shows that it earns its title.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 14 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 14 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nothing like that Swiftspear! Valve touted <b>only</b> the effects and engine of Half Life 2, and very little to nothing of the story. <b>All</b> I have is the stuff shown in the videos over which to get excited. When the videos were originally shown, the effects were new and revolutionary. But they're old now. Nothing is new about Half Life 2 now, and since we have nothing going for the story, what then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You are entitled to your opinion.
I think your opinion sucks.
But that's just my opinion. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
sorry, but i love it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+May 13 2004, 11:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ May 13 2004, 11:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Could you repeat that one more time? I'm not retarded yet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Maybe you should check one more time
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 14 2004, 04:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 14 2004, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nexus, do you really not notice the overuse of sharpening filters in those images? The detail has <i>halos</i>!
EDIT: Not trying to be a pain, really. I'll play the game when it comes out... just wanting to know if I really am the only one to notice it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Except those images are positively ancient, released 2 months before E3 2003. It's come a long way since then.
People who put graphics before gameplay need to be pulled out into the middle of the street and punched. It's a game. the Operative word being GAME. If I wanted something pretty to look at, I'd buy a picture.
<!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+May 14 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ May 14 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Except those images are positively ancient, released 2 months before E3 2003. It's come a long way since then. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you realize what you've just said? The <b>official website for Half Life 2</b> used <b>these</b> pictures to promote the quality of work in the full release of this game. This isn't a site made three, or two, or even one year ago. This is from THIS YEAR. So, if the <b>official</b> website has <b>these</b> pictures for an example, wouldn't that kinda be coming from the "SOURCE"?! And if the SOURCE doesn't have anything but these pictures, <b>WHAT OTHER CONCLUSION AM I TO DRAW BUT THAT THESE PICTURES ARE VALID[/b?! Good ]b]GRIEF</b> it's like you're purposely trying to make the most <b><i>perfect</i></b> example of circular logic!
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Medhed will probably be the first goth infront of EB day of release</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First off, braniac, it's MedHe<b>a</b>d. Secondly, <b>WHY DOES MY CHOICE OF CLOTHING AFFECT MY MENTAL SKILLS?</b> Thirdly, how do you know how I dress? Wait, let me rephrase that. Why would you think I dress like a goth? You hit <b>nowhere</b> near the mark there. Waaaay off.
<!--QuoteBegin-docMORON+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docMORON)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>People who put graphics before gameplay need to be pulled out into the middle of the street, stripped naked, and shot in the mouth. It's a game. the Operative word being GAME. If I wanted something pretty to look at, I'd buy a picture.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're not that smart, are you? Let's exaggerate and say that people need to be <b><i>MURDERED</i></b> because they choose to have a - GASP SHOCK OH NO SOMEBODY STOP THE TRAIN I'M BLEEDING - different opinion THAN YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?11111111
Let's forget AAAALLL the hooplah made by VALVE ITSELF in the previous E3 about the game engine, the graphic enhancements, the sound quality, the scripting, all that. Let's get into the CORE of that so <b>very obvious</b> (for those who have half at least half a brain cell lodged in their cranium) media blitz about the eye candy. Let's forget ALL of that. What do we have? Passing comments on the old characters, and "Oh, the story line's going to pick up from the events in Half Life 1." OH MY GOODNESS KNOCK ME ON THE FLOOR AND BEAT ME WITH A PINHATA. I can't BELIEVE that a SEQUEL would have a storyline that follows the original game!!!!1111
Man, it's like you guys can't even THINK. You can't even see what's in front of you and see how silly you look, slobbering over "outdated" images, nuggets of absolutely nothing from Mr. Gabe Fatwell himself, because HEY, this game came from Valve! Nevermind that there has yet to be a good game FROM Valve since Half Life...
Man people, get a grip on yourselves. It's a video game, and <b>I can have an opinion that differs from yours.</b> The quality of those pictures is POOR. For some reason, even THAT can't get through your thick, empty skulls, because FAR be it for Valve to EVER be shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2!!!111
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 14 2004, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 14 2004, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tequila+May 14 2004, 06:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tequila @ May 14 2004, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Except those images are positively ancient, released 2 months before E3 2003. It's come a long way since then. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you realize what you've just said? The <b>official website for Half Life 2</b> used <b>these</b> pictures to promote the quality of work in the full release of this game. This isn't a site made three, or two, or even one year ago. This is from THIS YEAR. So, if the <b>official</b> website has <b>these</b> pictures for an example, wouldn't that kinda be coming from the "SOURCE"?! And if the SOURCE doesn't have anything but these pictures, <b>WHAT OTHER CONCLUSION AM I TO DRAW BUT THAT THESE PICTURES ARE VALID[/b?! Good ]b]GRIEF</b> it's like you're purposely trying to make the most <b><i>perfect</i></b> example of circular logic!
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Medhed will probably be the first goth infront of EB day of release</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First off, braniac, it's MedHe<b>a</b>d. Secondly, <b>WHY DOES MY CHOICE OF CLOTHING AFFECT MY MENTAL SKILLS?</b> Thirdly, how do you know how I dress? Wait, let me rephrase that. Why would you think I dress like a goth? You hit <b>nowhere</b> near the mark there. Waaaay off.
<!--QuoteBegin-docMORON+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docMORON)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>People who put graphics before gameplay need to be pulled out into the middle of the street, stripped naked, and shot in the mouth. It's a game. the Operative word being GAME. If I wanted something pretty to look at, I'd buy a picture.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're not that smart, are you? Let's exaggerate and say that people need to be <b><i>MURDERED</i></b> because they choose to have a - GASP SHOCK OH NO SOMEBODY STOP THE TRAIN I'M BLEEDING - different opinion THAN YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?11111111
Let's forget AAAALLL the hooplah made by VALVE ITSELF in the previous E3 about the game engine, the graphic enhancements, the sound quality, the scripting, all that. Let's get into the CORE of that so <b>very obvious</b> (for those who have half at least half a brain cell lodged in their cranium) media blitz about the eye candy. Let's forget ALL of that. What do we have? Passing comments on the old characters, and "Oh, the story line's going to pick up from the events in Half Life 1." OH MY GOODNESS KNOCK ME ON THE FLOOR AND BEAT ME WITH A PINHATA. I can't BELIEVE that a SEQUEL would have a storyline that follows the original game!!!!1111
Man, it's like you guys can't even THINK. You can't even see what's in front of you and see how silly you look, slobbering over "outdated" images, nuggets of absolutely nothing from Mr. Gabe Fatwell himself, because HEY, this game came from Valve! Nevermind that there has yet to be a good game FROM Valve since Half Life...
Man people, get a grip on yourselves. It's a video game, and <b>I can have an opinion that differs from yours.</b> The quality of those pictures is POOR. For some reason, even THAT can't get through your thick, empty skulls, because FAR be it for Valve to EVER be shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2!!!111
GET OFF MY BACK. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey MedHead..Dont go on so hard, relax now and let me speak :
The Fact is that you dont likes Half-Life 2 and, well there is nothing more to say about you.
You are talking about : <b>shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2</b>
yeah? go for coding yourself and make a better game than Half-Life 2 and then i belive you, all you said about the game. And wah, my hobby is level-design..You can't say so, that shows that you dont likes half-life 2 again and i dont cares. Well start mapping and then we can talk about the lighting, hehee! Make it better.
And hey..How can you say so if you dont have played the game? The game has not been rated yet, so dont say that "quality of those pictures is POOR"
Well you says that : <b>It's a video game</b>
Have Valve Software sayed : <b>It's a video game</b>! ?
eehh..what can we do, if we dont know the source yet..Some movies is only movies. When the game shipps, then we can talk about the quality!
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 14 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 14 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nothing like that Swiftspear! Valve touted <b>only</b> the effects and engine of Half Life 2, and very little to nothing of the story. <b>All</b> I have is the stuff shown in the videos over which to get excited. When the videos were originally shown, the effects were new and revolutionary. But they're old now. Nothing is new about Half Life 2 now, and since we have nothing going for the story, what then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Sorry about that Medhead, I miss understood your point. Myself, I'm quite exited, I guess its strange to be excited about <b>gameplay</b> but that is just the way I am. I'm just saying, from my prespective, sure farcry and painkiller did physics, sure thier lighting and graphics were great (I have nothing to criticize on the quality of farcry's models) but the fact remains, watch the HL2 videos and it becomes very clear, <b>Halflife does it better.</b>
Why does it matter that Halflife 2 didn't beat other titles out the gate? Clearly it will set a precident. I'm glad valve took the time to do thier stuff right rather than rush the game on the market, just so they could say they are the first to have physics or the first to do increadible lighting. Quality always trumps release date.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Hey MedHead..Dont go on so hard, relax now and let me speak</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can't stop you!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Fact is that you dont likes Half-Life 2 and, well there is nothing more to say about you. </b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When did I ever say I didn't like Half Life 2? I said I am not <b>excited</b> about it - but I said I would purchase it. Believing the hype and being interested in the game are two different, very distinct things.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are talking about : <b>shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2</b>[/quote
yeah? go for coding yourself and make a better game than Half-Life 2 and then i belive you, all you said about the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
OH GIVE ME A BREAK! Is this the default response for anyone who isn't of the opinion of the majority? How many times have I heard this one? I've lost count, really. I don't have to be a sewer cleaner to know the sewer stinks. Same as I don't need to be a game designer to know when a game is bad, or is not as good as the developers claim. Daikatana, anyone?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And wah, my hobby is level-design..You can't say so, that shows that you dont likes half-life 2 again and i dont cares. Well start mapping and then we can talk about the lighting, hehee! Make it better.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you talking to me? If so, what are you on?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And hey..How can you say so if you dont have played the game?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How can I say what?!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The game has not been rated yet, so dont say that "quality of those pictures is POOR"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you still not see your circular logic? If I cannot give the pictures a poor rating because I have yet to play the game, how can YOU give the pictures a GOOD rating?! HMM!? You can't have it both ways.
On top of that, you fail to see what I'm talking about. As a level designer, you should have some basic knowledge of texturing, I would think (unless you only use default textures). I am talking about the SHARPNESS of the images. They are TOO SHARP, because Valve wanted "detail" to be shown in the images. What they did was set the sharpening filter too high, causing halos around all the detail areas. That's why they're poor! I'm not talking about the CONTENTS - I'm talking about the PICTURE QUALITY.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well you says that : <b>It's a video game</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, I "says" that.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Have Valve Software sayed : <b>It's a video game</b>! ?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you high? Really?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->eehh..what can we do, if we dont know the source yet..Some movies is only movies. When the game shipps, then we can talk about the quality!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Once again, circular logic. Say it with me. "Circular logic". C-I-R-C-U-L-A-R. Let me spell it out this way:
<b>You claim this game is good. You are using the images, movies, and other data presented by Valve and its fans.
I am claiming this game will NOT BE AS GOOD AS IT CLAIMED TO BE. Note that. NOT AS GOOD AS IT IS CLAIMED TO BE. Not "bad". Not "terrible". Just NOT AS GOOD. Okay. Now where do I derive that conclusion? The SAME DATA YOU ARE USING!
So how can YOU have an opinion based on "fact", when I, USING THE SAME DATA, cannot claim the game is NOT AS GOOD before playing it? Well?</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+May 14 2004, 09:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ May 14 2004, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+May 14 2004, 09:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 14 2004, 09:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nothing like that Swiftspear! Valve touted <b>only</b> the effects and engine of Half Life 2, and very little to nothing of the story. <b>All</b> I have is the stuff shown in the videos over which to get excited. When the videos were originally shown, the effects were new and revolutionary. But they're old now. Nothing is new about Half Life 2 now, and since we have nothing going for the story, what then? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sorry about that Medhead, I miss understood your point. Myself, I'm quite exited, I guess its strange to be excited about <b>gameplay</b> but that is just the way I am. I'm just saying, from my prespective, sure farcry and painkiller did physics, sure thier lighting and graphics were great (I have nothing to criticize on the quality of farcry's models) but the fact remains, watch the HL2 videos and it becomes very clear, <b>Halflife does it better.</b>
Why does it matter that Halflife 2 didn't beat other titles out the gate? Clearly it will set a precident. I'm glad valve took the time to do thier stuff right rather than rush the game on the market, just so they could say they are the first to have physics or the first to do increadible lighting. Quality always trumps release date. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And I hope you're right. I hope this game does wonders. Good grief, I don't WANT it to fail. But I don't have very much hope for it, that's all.
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AHHAHA, lol...wheeee.........
am I the only one that caught Gem's stab at how large the XBOX is? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hopefully not, but probally only one who burst out laughing at work <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This also reminds me that I have to file for my free hl2, My pretty coupon <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
The game looks ohh-so-nice in motion. The screen shots taken from the video, albeit a bit blurrly, look pretty nice too. The lighting seems a bit wonky though. Alyx (really, who spells their name like that?) and the doc seem to be full-bright (or at least, un shaded - as do some of the walls). Still looks exceptionally fun, and despite the brightness stuff it looks pretty good too.
I'm not overly excited about Half Life 2 anymore. The advances that were cheered about in Half Life 2 have already been used in other games. Nothing really new about Half Life 2 any longer, except the progression of the story. I didn't really think the original story was really good enough to warrant a sequel, but eh, I guess the sales "demanded" it.
And yes because i'm very very special boy..I wanna cheat in HL2 emediatly when it have come out. So i buy the game..Types in the "last level" of the games end and then i know the hl2 big story..And now relax, Half-life 3 is the next game coming. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And E3 movies are very nice ye.
Why not purchase the Strategy Guide for Half Life 2, which has been available on Amazon.com for months now?
I just got a good look at the rendering of Freeman in HL2 and he looks like me... Either that or I'm going blind..
I Hopes FLayra get HL2 and starting NS2 on source engine. HOpes i hopes!!! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Is the game Freee?
Is the game Freee? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's only a 2d side scrolling game...if they made you pay I doubt anyone would buy it...thus I'll have to say it's free (or Valve is crazier than I thought).
When they let me get a HL2 box with Alyx or Gordon on the front, then I'll be excited. Otherwise, I'll just entertain myself with the E3 2003 and E3 2004 videos (if only Gamespy's video quality didn't suck so much compared to the Gamespot ones I can't get).
(by the way: that quote is from Jon Stewart on the Daily Show [Comedy Central](my only source for news <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> !), when someone - I think it was Bush - was repeating something over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, etc. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
Thats like saying that a porche isn't cool because other cars used an internal combustion engine before it. As far as use of the physics engine goes, you don't have to look very hard into those demos to see things that valve has done that niether farcry or painkiller have touched.
Although I had fun pushing barrels down the stairs in farcry, I can't wait to play with the gravity gun in HL2. Combine that with the potential power of the material system...
The character speech system is still unparalled, and besides that there's the fact that it's Half-Life <i>2</i> and the E3 2004 video shows that it earns its title.
You are entitled to your opinion.
I think your opinion sucks.
But that's just my opinion. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
~ DarkATi
Look at it!!
<img src='http://www.half-life2.com/img/screenshots/hl2_screen.Eli+Alyx.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://www.half-life2.com/img/screenshots/hl2_screen.Patrol.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://www.half-life2.com/img/screenshots/hl2_screen.CellBlock.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://www.half-life2.com/img/screenshots/hl2_screen.Hydra.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
sorry, but i love it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Maybe you should check one more time
EDIT: Not trying to be a pain, really. I'll play the game when it comes out... just wanting to know if I really am the only one to notice it.
EDIT: Not trying to be a pain, really. I'll play the game when it comes out... just wanting to know if I really am the only one to notice it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Except those images are positively ancient, released 2 months before E3 2003. It's come a long way since then.
EDIT: More family-Friendly.
Do you realize what you've just said? The <b>official website for Half Life 2</b> used <b>these</b> pictures to promote the quality of work in the full release of this game. This isn't a site made three, or two, or even one year ago. This is from THIS YEAR. So, if the <b>official</b> website has <b>these</b> pictures for an example, wouldn't that kinda be coming from the "SOURCE"?! And if the SOURCE doesn't have anything but these pictures, <b>WHAT OTHER CONCLUSION AM I TO DRAW BUT THAT THESE PICTURES ARE VALID[/b?! Good ]b]GRIEF</b> it's like you're purposely trying to make the most <b><i>perfect</i></b> example of circular logic!
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Medhed will probably be the first goth infront of EB day of release</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First off, braniac, it's MedHe<b>a</b>d. Secondly, <b>WHY DOES MY CHOICE OF CLOTHING AFFECT MY MENTAL SKILLS?</b> Thirdly, how do you know how I dress? Wait, let me rephrase that. Why would you think I dress like a goth? You hit <b>nowhere</b> near the mark there. Waaaay off.
<!--QuoteBegin-docMORON+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docMORON)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>People who put graphics before gameplay need to be pulled out into the middle of the street, stripped naked, and shot in the mouth. It's a game. the Operative word being GAME. If I wanted something pretty to look at, I'd buy a picture.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're not that smart, are you? Let's exaggerate and say that people need to be <b><i>MURDERED</i></b> because they choose to have a - GASP SHOCK OH NO SOMEBODY STOP THE TRAIN I'M BLEEDING - different opinion THAN YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?11111111
Let's forget AAAALLL the hooplah made by VALVE ITSELF in the previous E3 about the game engine, the graphic enhancements, the sound quality, the scripting, all that. Let's get into the CORE of that so <b>very obvious</b> (for those who have half at least half a brain cell lodged in their cranium) media blitz about the eye candy. Let's forget ALL of that. What do we have? Passing comments on the old characters, and "Oh, the story line's going to pick up from the events in Half Life 1." OH MY GOODNESS KNOCK ME ON THE FLOOR AND BEAT ME WITH A PINHATA. I can't BELIEVE that a SEQUEL would have a storyline that follows the original game!!!!1111
Man, it's like you guys can't even THINK. You can't even see what's in front of you and see how silly you look, slobbering over "outdated" images, nuggets of absolutely nothing from Mr. Gabe Fatwell himself, because HEY, this game came from Valve! Nevermind that there has yet to be a good game FROM Valve since Half Life...
Man people, get a grip on yourselves. It's a video game, and <b>I can have an opinion that differs from yours.</b> The quality of those pictures is POOR. For some reason, even THAT can't get through your thick, empty skulls, because FAR be it for Valve to EVER be shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2!!!111
GET OFF MY BACK.
Do you realize what you've just said? The <b>official website for Half Life 2</b> used <b>these</b> pictures to promote the quality of work in the full release of this game. This isn't a site made three, or two, or even one year ago. This is from THIS YEAR. So, if the <b>official</b> website has <b>these</b> pictures for an example, wouldn't that kinda be coming from the "SOURCE"?! And if the SOURCE doesn't have anything but these pictures, <b>WHAT OTHER CONCLUSION AM I TO DRAW BUT THAT THESE PICTURES ARE VALID[/b?! Good ]b]GRIEF</b> it's like you're purposely trying to make the most <b><i>perfect</i></b> example of circular logic!
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Medhed will probably be the first goth infront of EB day of release</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First off, braniac, it's MedHe<b>a</b>d. Secondly, <b>WHY DOES MY CHOICE OF CLOTHING AFFECT MY MENTAL SKILLS?</b> Thirdly, how do you know how I dress? Wait, let me rephrase that. Why would you think I dress like a goth? You hit <b>nowhere</b> near the mark there. Waaaay off.
<!--QuoteBegin-docMORON+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (docMORON)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>People who put graphics before gameplay need to be pulled out into the middle of the street, stripped naked, and shot in the mouth. It's a game. the Operative word being GAME. If I wanted something pretty to look at, I'd buy a picture.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're not that smart, are you? Let's exaggerate and say that people need to be <b><i>MURDERED</i></b> because they choose to have a - GASP SHOCK OH NO SOMEBODY STOP THE TRAIN I'M BLEEDING - different opinion THAN YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?11111111
Let's forget AAAALLL the hooplah made by VALVE ITSELF in the previous E3 about the game engine, the graphic enhancements, the sound quality, the scripting, all that. Let's get into the CORE of that so <b>very obvious</b> (for those who have half at least half a brain cell lodged in their cranium) media blitz about the eye candy. Let's forget ALL of that. What do we have? Passing comments on the old characters, and "Oh, the story line's going to pick up from the events in Half Life 1." OH MY GOODNESS KNOCK ME ON THE FLOOR AND BEAT ME WITH A PINHATA. I can't BELIEVE that a SEQUEL would have a storyline that follows the original game!!!!1111
Man, it's like you guys can't even THINK. You can't even see what's in front of you and see how silly you look, slobbering over "outdated" images, nuggets of absolutely nothing from Mr. Gabe Fatwell himself, because HEY, this game came from Valve! Nevermind that there has yet to be a good game FROM Valve since Half Life...
Man people, get a grip on yourselves. It's a video game, and <b>I can have an opinion that differs from yours.</b> The quality of those pictures is POOR. For some reason, even THAT can't get through your thick, empty skulls, because FAR be it for Valve to EVER be shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2!!!111
GET OFF MY BACK. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey MedHead..Dont go on so hard, relax now and let me speak :
The Fact is that you dont likes Half-Life 2 and, well there is nothing more to say about you.
You are talking about : <b>shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2</b>
yeah? go for coding yourself and make a better game than Half-Life 2 and then i belive you, all you said about the game. And wah, my hobby is level-design..You can't say so, that shows that you dont likes half-life 2 again and i dont cares.
Well start mapping and then we can talk about the lighting, hehee! Make it better.
And hey..How can you say so if you dont have played the game?
The game has not been rated yet, so dont say that "quality of those pictures is POOR"
Well you says that : <b>It's a video game</b>
Have Valve Software sayed : <b>It's a video game</b>! ?
eehh..what can we do, if we dont know the source yet..Some movies is only movies. When the game shipps, then we can talk about the quality!
Sorry about that Medhead, I miss understood your point. Myself, I'm quite exited, I guess its strange to be excited about <b>gameplay</b> but that is just the way I am. I'm just saying, from my prespective, sure farcry and painkiller did physics, sure thier lighting and graphics were great (I have nothing to criticize on the quality of farcry's models) but the fact remains, watch the HL2 videos and it becomes very clear, <b>Halflife does it better.</b>
Why does it matter that Halflife 2 didn't beat other titles out the gate? Clearly it will set a precident. I'm glad valve took the time to do thier stuff right rather than rush the game on the market, just so they could say they are the first to have physics or the first to do increadible lighting. Quality always trumps release date.
I can't stop you!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Fact is that you dont likes Half-Life 2 and, well there is nothing more to say about you. </b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When did I ever say I didn't like Half Life 2? I said I am not <b>excited</b> about it - but I said I would purchase it. Believing the hype and being interested in the game are two different, very distinct things.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are talking about : <b>shown in a negative light when it concerns Half Life 2</b>[/quote
yeah? go for coding yourself and make a better game than Half-Life 2 and then i belive you, all you said about the game.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
OH GIVE ME A BREAK! Is this the default response for anyone who isn't of the opinion of the majority? How many times have I heard this one? I've lost count, really. I don't have to be a sewer cleaner to know the sewer stinks. Same as I don't need to be a game designer to know when a game is bad, or is not as good as the developers claim. Daikatana, anyone?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And wah, my hobby is level-design..You can't say so, that shows that you dont likes half-life 2 again and i dont cares.
Well start mapping and then we can talk about the lighting, hehee! Make it better.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you talking to me? If so, what are you on?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And hey..How can you say so if you dont have played the game?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How can I say what?!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The game has not been rated yet, so dont say that "quality of those pictures is POOR"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you still not see your circular logic? If I cannot give the pictures a poor rating because I have yet to play the game, how can YOU give the pictures a GOOD rating?! HMM!? You can't have it both ways.
On top of that, you fail to see what I'm talking about. As a level designer, you should have some basic knowledge of texturing, I would think (unless you only use default textures). I am talking about the SHARPNESS of the images. They are TOO SHARP, because Valve wanted "detail" to be shown in the images. What they did was set the sharpening filter too high, causing halos around all the detail areas. That's why they're poor! I'm not talking about the CONTENTS - I'm talking about the PICTURE QUALITY.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well you says that : <b>It's a video game</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, I "says" that.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Have Valve Software sayed : <b>It's a video game</b>! ?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you high? Really?
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->eehh..what can we do, if we dont know the source yet..Some movies is only movies. When the game shipps, then we can talk about the quality!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Once again, circular logic. Say it with me. "Circular logic". C-I-R-C-U-L-A-R. Let me spell it out this way:
<b>You claim this game is good. You are using the images, movies, and other data presented by Valve and its fans.
I am claiming this game will NOT BE AS GOOD AS IT CLAIMED TO BE. Note that. NOT AS GOOD AS IT IS CLAIMED TO BE. Not "bad". Not "terrible". Just NOT AS GOOD. Okay. Now where do I derive that conclusion? The SAME DATA YOU ARE USING!
So how can YOU have an opinion based on "fact", when I, USING THE SAME DATA, cannot claim the game is NOT AS GOOD before playing it? Well?</b>
Sorry about that Medhead, I miss understood your point. Myself, I'm quite exited, I guess its strange to be excited about <b>gameplay</b> but that is just the way I am. I'm just saying, from my prespective, sure farcry and painkiller did physics, sure thier lighting and graphics were great (I have nothing to criticize on the quality of farcry's models) but the fact remains, watch the HL2 videos and it becomes very clear, <b>Halflife does it better.</b>
Why does it matter that Halflife 2 didn't beat other titles out the gate? Clearly it will set a precident. I'm glad valve took the time to do thier stuff right rather than rush the game on the market, just so they could say they are the first to have physics or the first to do increadible lighting. Quality always trumps release date. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And I hope you're right. I hope this game does wonders. Good grief, I don't WANT it to fail. But I don't have very much hope for it, that's all.