Congress Moves To Criminalize P2p
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Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
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Saw this article on Wired:
<a href='http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,62830,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5' target='_blank'>Congress Moves to Criminalize P2P</a>
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The bills come at a time when the music and movie industries are exerting enormous pressure on all branches of government at the federal and state levels to crack down on P2P content piracy. The industries also are pushing to portray P2P networks as dens of terrorists, child pornographers and criminals -- a strategy that would make it more palatable for politicians to pass laws against products that are very popular with their constituents.
In defending the Pirate Act, Hatch said the operators of P2P networks are running a conspiracy in which they lure children and young people with free music, movies and pornography. With these "human shields," the P2P companies are trying to blackmail the entertainment industries into accepting their networks as a distribution channel and source of revenue.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah. I can't even put into words how **** off and upset this makes me.
Remember why we had the American Revolution in the first place? Taxation without representation... I think its time for another one...
<a href='http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,62830,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5' target='_blank'>Congress Moves to Criminalize P2P</a>
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The bills come at a time when the music and movie industries are exerting enormous pressure on all branches of government at the federal and state levels to crack down on P2P content piracy. The industries also are pushing to portray P2P networks as dens of terrorists, child pornographers and criminals -- a strategy that would make it more palatable for politicians to pass laws against products that are very popular with their constituents.
In defending the Pirate Act, Hatch said the operators of P2P networks are running a conspiracy in which they lure children and young people with free music, movies and pornography. With these "human shields," the P2P companies are trying to blackmail the entertainment industries into accepting their networks as a distribution channel and source of revenue.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah. I can't even put into words how **** off and upset this makes me.
Remember why we had the American Revolution in the first place? Taxation without representation... I think its time for another one...
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So Uh
Why don't you just ban the whole internet?
Sucks to be in America, ho hum, so glad I can hide in Europe and dance from country to country enjoying civil liberties without having to be barcoded, timestamped, bloodsampled, fingerprinted, iris scanned or rectal probed.
This is the kind of crap that is ruining our economy, they put taxes on stuff to avoid loss but at the same time smother the market. What's going to happen to internet sales when they put mandatory sales tax on items you purchase?
Bunch of old farts that know nothing about the internet making our laws, ugh!
They need to survey congress and if less than 70% of them use the internet at home on a regular basis take this matter out of their hands. Really I think an independent commity needs to handle e-commerce.
1. He will see all the bad stuff in it. Pr0n, warez etc. And then totally realizes how right the music and movie industries were.
2. Sees all the independent music, movies etc that all now so easily available because of P2P. I myself downloaded NS 1.04 using BT. Now was that bad?
Soooo... I guess we can't upload more than one or two big linux distributions with included software, huh? Seeing as the entire internet could be classified as a peer-to-peer network.
Anyway, 2500 files?! My library including video/music/etc is only like 175 items large...
The 'geek culture' has reached maturity, and is thus a possibly significant voting demographic. Why in hell should you leave internet legislation to old farts when you can do it yourselves?
Maybe we should all start a fight for internet rights foundation? eh.....I'll do it tomorrow.
We all saw how fast politicians were to ignore the (significant) game lobby when the 'violence' debate sparked and lots of 'concerned parent groups' could apparently be swayed in their voting decisions by definite statements on the subject. Well, guess what - you can play that game, as well. It's about time whining is being used for something positive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
and than there is that **** joe liberman, trying to get violence in games banned, al gore is the only one who has a clue after all he invented the net (not)
Well I'm sure once they **** us off enough we'll get on about changing the laws. I mean we have prety solid grounds considering how few people in congress know anything about these programs.
PS don't be fooled by the 2500 number once the law gets passed they can easily revise it to be a lot less, or even illegal all together.
The 'geek culture' has reached maturity, and is thus a possibly significant voting demographic. Why in hell should you leave internet legislation to old farts when you can do it yourselves? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea... remember who got the majority vote last election but still lost because the American goverment is in the hands of 100% corrupt Men With Power?
We all saw how fast politicians were to ignore the (significant) game lobby when the 'violence' debate sparked and lots of 'concerned parent groups' could apparently be swayed in their voting decisions by definite statements on the subject. Well, guess what - you can play that game, as well. It's about time whining is being used for something positive <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because if we let Internet geeks gain positions in the US government, the US would be renamed to the "Un1t3d H4xx0r5 0f 4m3r1c4 kthx" before long.
Glad I live in good old Canada.
ban free thought
pros:
no crime
no hate
total conformity
easy to manage
diseases easily isolated
easy population control
cons:
none, because you aren't alowed to think about them
edit: cforrester, do you have a spare room?
The 'geek culture' has reached maturity, and is thus a possibly significant voting demographic. Why in hell should you leave internet legislation to old farts when you can do it yourselves? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea... remember who got the majority vote last election but still lost because the American goverment is in the hands of 100% corrupt Men With Power? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, Bush got elected because we're running on a 200 year old electoral college system based on a time when tallying every single person's vote was unrealistic. People that actually vote for the president in the electoral college are elected by the party that they work for (so the Democratic party hires people it feels are loyal to them, so that if they win the votes in a state, then they will get the electoral college votes) - those people can actually vote for whoever they want.
The problem with the electoral college is that it tries to force equality between states, even if there is a very marginal vote difference for the majority (say 50.00001% for and 49% against with a .99999 undecided/other - despite the fact that the votes were quite equal, the electoral college votes still go entirely to the winning majority (thus 27 electoral college votes can go to one person based on a few votes).
Then again, back in the days when this was devised, whoever got the second highest number of votes was vice president, and not how we have it now.
Sooo...Congress should actually be working on a remedy for the electoral college instead of pestering people about p2p networks (which, for various reasons you can find on the internet or even on this forum, dont affect sales much).
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the solution is simple:
ban free thought
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gg george orwell
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Amen to that!
I do agree some commity should be formed of people who actually *use* the internet and understand how it works should be in charge of this, cause it's just dumb the laws the US is trying to put in place now.
Glad I live in good old Canada. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Amen to that!
I do agree some commity should be formed of people who actually *use* the internet and understand how it works should be in charge of this, cause it's just dumb the laws the US is trying to put in place now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
we should take over a state/provence and make that our base, from there we will expand. using these newly aquired areas as hubs we will begin expanding our sphere of influence eventualy taking over the usa, canada and parts of western europe. from there we move to take over the world, populating it with technically literate people
ggkthxbai
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oh god...I can see it now, a new dawn of crappy politically correct Educational Games!
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