My destroyer exchange is going badly. I sent mine off about 12hrs ago and my friggin ally hasn't sent any to me. Got a feeling he is gonna rake the XP's for defeating my fleet and shaft me.
If my bro should attack the NS guy (if he stays AFK for a long time). He asks if he can join with our alliance? It doesn't sound like he will start a blood feud <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Operation "2-day rush" is well underway, with 2 destroyers currently flying out, with an ETA of 24 hours. i should be able to get my supply unit ~60 hours after i joined. Tomorrow morning we'll see what's in store <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"One more day before the storm At the barricades of freedom" -Les Miserables, One Day More
Ya, I have sent a further 3 ships to the AFK'er in my system - flight time approx 26hrs (10pm GMT). Hope he didnt go for a defensive set up.
I still feel cheated the Canadian guy I made the destyorer exchange deal with is still off line. My ships were destroyed 8hrs ago and still no ships incoming to me. All this lost time. boo hoo.
I go culture 2 in 20hrs and at this rate will struggle to afford 2 colony ships. Hmm I could risk all and send a transport to the AFK guy I am attacking.
Whats your thoughts. I have now practically spent the last 14hrs PP's on attack.
<!--QuoteBegin-comb@t+Feb 27 2004, 03:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (comb@t @ Feb 27 2004, 03:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ya, I have sent a further 3 ships to the AFK'er in my system - flight time approx 26hrs (10pm GMT). Hope he didnt go for a defensive set up.
I still feel cheated the Canadian guy I made the destyorer exchange deal with is still off line. My ships were destroyed 8hrs ago and still no ships incoming to me. All this lost time. boo hoo.
I go culture 2 in 20hrs and at this rate will struggle to afford 2 colony ships. Hmm I could risk all and send a transport to the AFK guy I am attacking.
Whats your thoughts. I have now practically spent the last 14hrs PP's on attack. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Put all your points into researching energy. Use the SU you get from killing the AFK'er to boost your lab (if you got the start lab), then use the remainder to buy a transport and a couple of colony ships, as well as a couple more destroyers, then send them all at the afk'er. IMO you should have held off on upgrading your cybernet so high, so that you'll hit culture 2 maybe 5-10 hours before your transport/colony ships hit the afker.
However...in the event that you don't manage to kill off the afk'er...well, try again.
I hear that the beta sector is pretty peaceful <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The plus side: I can see Nikon and Khan. The bad side: They're another system away. The plus side: 2 people in my system seem afk. I think I'll be sending a small force to take out one of the AFKers. Any suggestions?
I have 5 destroyers right now, but I'm waiting till I get 7...then i'm going to take over the afkers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The plus side: I can see Nikon and Khan. The bad side: They're another system away. The plus side: 2 people in my system seem afk. I think I'll be sending a small force to take out one of the AFKers. Any suggestions? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hey Ashaman Joe, glad to know your near us, were gonna concentrate on taking over our system, but if ya need some help, send us a hollar, ill be teching my bio up in a few days.
where are you guys? if i can get a decent ally (until we get a TSA alliance, if there's going to be one) that can defend, it's all good, otherwise i'm thinking about starting over since i shot myself in the foot by taking a 24% hit to science (i should've taken the hit to growth instead..)
<!--QuoteBegin-[BFG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([BFG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->-|NiKoN|-,Feb 27 2004, 04:35 PM] <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The plus side: I can see Nikon and Khan. The bad side: They're another system away. The plus side: 2 people in my system seem afk. I think I'll be sending a small force to take out one of the AFKers. Any suggestions? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hey Ashaman Joe, glad to know your near us, were gonna concentrate on taking over our system, but if ya need some help, send us a hollar, ill be teching my bio up in a few days. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good to know I have back up out there. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The other non-afker doesn't seem to log on much; maybe once a day. I have hope he may drop out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 07:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-[BFG+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([BFG)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->-|NiKoN|-,Feb 27 2004, 04:35 PM] <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The plus side: I can see Nikon and Khan. The bad side: They're another system away. The plus side: 2 people in my system seem afk. I think I'll be sending a small force to take out one of the AFKers. Any suggestions? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> hey Ashaman Joe, glad to know your near us, were gonna concentrate on taking over our system, but if ya need some help, send us a hollar, ill be teching my bio up in a few days. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Good to know I have back up out there. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The other non-afker doesn't seem to log on much; maybe once a day. I have hope he may drop out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> just keep researching bio so you can spy on him; if he's not doing that great you can wipe him out <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*edit* or you could actually be a nice guy and offer to ally with him <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Feb 27 2004, 04:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Feb 27 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just keep researching bio so you can spy on him; if he's not doing that great you can wipe him out <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll go back to Bio when I'm done with Energy 1. Just 3 more hours....
I almost got 30 PP: should I continue building or start a fleet? I'm getting 8 PP/hour, with 3 pop, 4 hydro, 5 robo, 3 cybernet, 3 research and 2 starbase.
i have almost the same setup as you ashaman, although i just got 4 population like half an hour ago and like 15 minutes ago upped my cybernet to 4 (since i took a bunch of penalties to pay for my speed increase, i've been suffering), i'm gettin 9 pp/hr but i have -8% :\ anyway, if you already have ships going out to check out afk'ers, i'd say put some points in cybernet, otherwise buy ships and go kill someone <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The sooner you get that first level, the better off you'll be, in my honest opinion
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Feb 27 2004, 04:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Feb 27 2004, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have almost the same setup as you ashaman, although i just got 4 population like half an hour ago and like 15 minutes ago upped my cybernet to 4 (since i took a bunch of penalties to pay for my speed increase, i've been suffering), i'm gettin 9 pp/hr but i have -8% :\ anyway, if you already have ships going out to check out afk'ers, i'd say put some points in cybernet, otherwise buy ships and go kill someone <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The sooner you get that first level, the better off you'll be, in my honest opinion <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm gonna need 3 Destroyers to have a good chance of winning, so long as he doesn't have a race defense or attack increase. Dern.
Guess I have to wait for that PP counter to go up. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll have my first destroyer soon, and my next about 4 hours after that. Hmm.
[Edit] I was thinking... If I time it right, I may be able to hit the active player when he's asleep. His starbase is only level 2, so three Destroyers have a very good chance of winning. And when he's gone, its only me and the 2 AFKers. Thoughs?[/Edit]
<!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 08:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Feb 27 2004, 04:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Feb 27 2004, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have almost the same setup as you ashaman, although i just got 4 population like half an hour ago and like 15 minutes ago upped my cybernet to 4 (since i took a bunch of penalties to pay for my speed increase, i've been suffering), i'm gettin 9 pp/hr but i have -8% :\ anyway, if you already have ships going out to check out afk'ers, i'd say put some points in cybernet, otherwise buy ships and go kill someone <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The sooner you get that first level, the better off you'll be, in my honest opinion <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm gonna need 3 Destroyers to have a good chance of winning, so long as he doesn't have a race defense or attack increase. Dern.
Guess I have to wait for that PP counter to go up. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll have my first destroyer soon, and my next about 4 hours after that. Hmm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's a tip: it doesn't matter if they have bonuses to defense, what you should do is split up your 3 destroyers into two battle groups: the first one with 1 destroyer, and the 2nd with the other 2 set to arrive maybe 1-5 minutes after the first one. if you knock a starbase down even .1, it only has the CV (combat value) of the integer part of its level, so a level 1.9 starbase has the same defense value as a level 1 starbase, and 2 destroyers have 100% chance to win against that. Even if he has +4/+4 for attack and defense, if you do split up your destroyers like that you'll have a 92% chance of winning, as opposed to a 48% chance.
So, basically the purpose of your first destroyer is to knock down the afk'ers starbase to less than 2, and the 2nd battle group is to mop things up.
*edit* this is assuming you have no bonus/malus to attack
Errr, sorry for my ninja edit, but could you think about it?
Also, nice trick with the destroyer waves. I feel evil tactics running through my veins. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[Edit]Seems you had a ninja edit, too. Yes, I took the standard race because I'm not sure enough with the game for a custom one.[/Edit]
<!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 08:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Errr, sorry for my ninja edit, but could you think about it?
Also, nice trick with the destroyer waves. I feel evil tactics running through my veins. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hitting the afk guy is extremely, extremely risky. I have level 2 energy, and i have 30% bonus to speed, but my ETA to the guy 6 planets away from me is still about 24 hours. So, I wouldn't advise it. A lot of people prefer having 1 or 2 allies in the same system, so it's easier to defend. I think you should probably try to make friends with him before you go for the jugular <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*ninja edit* this may not be as much of a problem since you have friends one system over, but i think it would be prudent to wipe out the real afk'ers before going for the kind-of active one
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Feb 27 2004, 05:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Feb 27 2004, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 08:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Errr, sorry for my ninja edit, but could you think about it?
Also, nice trick with the destroyer waves. I feel evil tactics running through my veins. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hitting the afk guy is extremely, extremely risky. I have level 2 energy, and i have 30% bonus to speed, but my ETA to the guy 6 planets away from me is still about 24 hours. So, I wouldn't advise it. A lot of people prefer having 2 allies in the same system, so it's easier to defend. I think you should probably try to make friends with him before you go for the jugular <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok, I'll be friendly.
But as soon as he's idle for at least 2 days... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I've taken a big risk by sending 3 destoyers and a transport to the afk planet - hoping to colonise it when/if the planet is mine.
I realise now that I built my culture up too high - but it would have worked out fine if my "ally" had sent the fleet to me 40+hrs ago.
Wish me luck - if the attack on the afk'er fails I will have lost mega PP and time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Feb 27 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Feb 27 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Feb 27 2004, 08:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Feb 27 2004, 08:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Feb 27 2004, 04:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Feb 27 2004, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have almost the same setup as you ashaman, although i just got 4 population like half an hour ago and like 15 minutes ago upped my cybernet to 4 (since i took a bunch of penalties to pay for my speed increase, i've been suffering), i'm gettin 9 pp/hr but i have -8% :\ anyway, if you already have ships going out to check out afk'ers, i'd say put some points in cybernet, otherwise buy ships and go kill someone <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> The sooner you get that first level, the better off you'll be, in my honest opinion <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm gonna need 3 Destroyers to have a good chance of winning, so long as he doesn't have a race defense or attack increase. Dern.
Guess I have to wait for that PP counter to go up. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll have my first destroyer soon, and my next about 4 hours after that. Hmm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Here's a tip: it doesn't matter if they have bonuses to defense, what you should do is split up your 3 destroyers into two battle groups: the first one with 1 destroyer, and the 2nd with the other 2 set to arrive maybe 1-5 minutes after the first one. if you knock a starbase down even .1, it only has the CV (combat value) of the integer part of its level, so a level 1.9 starbase has the same defense value as a level 1 starbase, and 2 destroyers have 100% chance to win against that. Even if he has +4/+4 for attack and defense, if you do split up your destroyers like that you'll have a 92% chance of winning, as opposed to a 48% chance.
So, basically the purpose of your first destroyer is to knock down the afk'ers starbase to less than 2, and the 2nd battle group is to mop things up.
*edit* this is assuming you have no bonus/malus to attack <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> =) i did that last game <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
in other news i have 4 destroyers and 2 colony ships, im gonna destroyer exchange with nuke the place hopefully soon...
<!--QuoteBegin-comb@t+Feb 27 2004, 06:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (comb@t @ Feb 27 2004, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've taken a big risk by sending 3 destoyers and a transport to the afk planet - hoping to colonise it when/if the planet is mine.
I realise now that I built my culture up too high - but it would have worked out fine if my "ally" had sent the fleet to me 40+hrs ago.
Wish me luck - if the attack on the afk'er fails I will have lost mega PP and time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You could'a tried the fragmented attack that Wheeee talked about. 2 destoyers win against a level 1 starbase.
I would advise you to send your fleet to a nearby uninhabited planet, and then launch again from that uninhabited planet to the enemy. It may take longer overall, but he has less of a window of warning from your fleet.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Feb 27 2004, 10:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Feb 27 2004, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would advise you to send your fleet to a nearby uninhabited planet, and then launch again from that uninhabited planet to the enemy. It may take longer overall, but he has less of a window of warning from your fleet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's a good point, but we're talking about afk'ers here. Still, I suppose afk'ers could always log...maybe.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cronos+Feb 27 2004, 07:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Feb 27 2004, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would advise you to send your fleet to a nearby uninhabited planet, and then launch again from that uninhabited planet to the enemy. It may take longer overall, but he has less of a window of warning from your fleet. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think AFKers generally don't respond at all, but I'll keep that in mind. (Learning from the experts makes life easy.) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
i got a prob-i joined the game and whenever i log on i get this time dif thing showing i cant start the game all i see is this damn time diff paragraph whenever i log on~!! plz plz Pm me if u know what i can do!
sorry about double post but i got it sorted if u want to boost me a little plz do ^_^ <a href='http://www.astrowars.com/register/?r=37206' target='_blank'>http://www.astrowars.com/register/?r=37206</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Congratulations! Your attacking fleet was victorious at Alpha Spica Virginis 7. You gained 5 experience points from unknown<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I woke up to this pretty message. So basically I just got level 1... 3 destroyers en route to second afk'er right now, waiting on culture 2 so i can take over the planet of unknown...
I've found myself a potential ally, however he's many many systems away from me, and who knows.
*edit* in other news, you only get experience for winning a battle. If you do the staggered attacks, you won't get as much experience, but you will almost assuredly win the battle with less casualties/expense on your side.
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If my bro should attack the NS guy (if he stays AFK for a long time). He asks if he can join with our alliance? It doesn't sound like he will start a blood feud <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"One more day before the storm
At the barricades of freedom"
-Les Miserables, One Day More
I still feel cheated the Canadian guy I made the destyorer exchange deal with is still off line. My ships were destroyed 8hrs ago and still no ships incoming to me. All this lost time. boo hoo.
I go culture 2 in 20hrs and at this rate will struggle to afford 2 colony ships. Hmm I could risk all and send a transport to the AFK guy I am attacking.
Whats your thoughts. I have now practically spent the last 14hrs PP's on attack.
I still feel cheated the Canadian guy I made the destyorer exchange deal with is still off line. My ships were destroyed 8hrs ago and still no ships incoming to me. All this lost time. boo hoo.
I go culture 2 in 20hrs and at this rate will struggle to afford 2 colony ships. Hmm I could risk all and send a transport to the AFK guy I am attacking.
Whats your thoughts. I have now practically spent the last 14hrs PP's on attack. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Put all your points into researching energy.
Use the SU you get from killing the AFK'er to boost your lab (if you got the start lab), then use the remainder to buy a transport and a couple of colony ships, as well as a couple more destroyers, then send them all at the afk'er. IMO you should have held off on upgrading your cybernet so high, so that you'll hit culture 2 maybe 5-10 hours before your transport/colony ships hit the afker.
However...in the event that you don't manage to kill off the afk'er...well, try again.
I hear that the beta sector is pretty peaceful <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hey Ashaman Joe, glad to know your near us, were gonna concentrate on taking over our system, but if ya need some help, send us a hollar, ill be teching my bio up in a few days.
hey Ashaman Joe, glad to know your near us, were gonna concentrate on taking over our system, but if ya need some help, send us a hollar, ill be teching my bio up in a few days. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to know I have back up out there. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The other non-afker doesn't seem to log on much; maybe once a day. I have hope he may drop out.
hey Ashaman Joe, glad to know your near us, were gonna concentrate on taking over our system, but if ya need some help, send us a hollar, ill be teching my bio up in a few days. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to know I have back up out there. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The other non-afker doesn't seem to log on much; maybe once a day. I have hope he may drop out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
just keep researching bio so you can spy on him; if he's not doing that great you can wipe him out <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*edit* or you could actually be a nice guy and offer to ally with him <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll go back to Bio when I'm done with Energy 1. Just 3 more hours....
I almost got 30 PP: should I continue building or start a fleet? I'm getting 8 PP/hour, with 3 pop, 4 hydro, 5 robo, 3 cybernet, 3 research and 2 starbase.
I'm gonna need 3 Destroyers to have a good chance of winning, so long as he doesn't have a race defense or attack increase. Dern.
Guess I have to wait for that PP counter to go up. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll have my first destroyer soon, and my next about 4 hours after that. Hmm.
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I was thinking... If I time it right, I may be able to hit the active player when he's asleep. His starbase is only level 2, so three Destroyers have a very good chance of winning. And when he's gone, its only me and the 2 AFKers. Thoughs?[/Edit]
I'm gonna need 3 Destroyers to have a good chance of winning, so long as he doesn't have a race defense or attack increase. Dern.
Guess I have to wait for that PP counter to go up. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll have my first destroyer soon, and my next about 4 hours after that. Hmm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's a tip: it doesn't matter if they have bonuses to defense, what you should do is split up your 3 destroyers into two battle groups: the first one with 1 destroyer, and the 2nd with the other 2 set to arrive maybe 1-5 minutes after the first one. if you knock a starbase down even .1, it only has the CV (combat value) of the integer part of its level, so a level 1.9 starbase has the same defense value as a level 1 starbase, and 2 destroyers have 100% chance to win against that. Even if he has +4/+4 for attack and defense, if you do split up your destroyers like that you'll have a 92% chance of winning, as opposed to a 48% chance.
So, basically the purpose of your first destroyer is to knock down the afk'ers starbase to less than 2, and the 2nd battle group is to mop things up.
*edit* this is assuming you have no bonus/malus to attack
Also, nice trick with the destroyer waves. I feel evil tactics running through my veins. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
[Edit]Seems you had a ninja edit, too. Yes, I took the standard race because I'm not sure enough with the game for a custom one.[/Edit]
Also, nice trick with the destroyer waves. I feel evil tactics running through my veins. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hitting the afk guy is extremely, extremely risky. I have level 2 energy, and i have 30% bonus to speed, but my ETA to the guy 6 planets away from me is still about 24 hours. So, I wouldn't advise it. A lot of people prefer having 1 or 2 allies in the same system, so it's easier to defend. I think you should probably try to make friends with him before you go for the jugular <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*ninja edit* this may not be as much of a problem since you have friends one system over, but i think it would be prudent to wipe out the real afk'ers before going for the kind-of active one
Also, nice trick with the destroyer waves. I feel evil tactics running through my veins. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hitting the afk guy is extremely, extremely risky. I have level 2 energy, and i have 30% bonus to speed, but my ETA to the guy 6 planets away from me is still about 24 hours. So, I wouldn't advise it. A lot of people prefer having 2 allies in the same system, so it's easier to defend. I think you should probably try to make friends with him before you go for the jugular <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok, I'll be friendly.
But as soon as he's idle for at least 2 days... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I realise now that I built my culture up too high - but it would have worked out fine if my "ally" had sent the fleet to me 40+hrs ago.
Wish me luck - if the attack on the afk'er fails I will have lost mega PP and time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm gonna need 3 Destroyers to have a good chance of winning, so long as he doesn't have a race defense or attack increase. Dern.
Guess I have to wait for that PP counter to go up. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'll have my first destroyer soon, and my next about 4 hours after that. Hmm. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Here's a tip: it doesn't matter if they have bonuses to defense, what you should do is split up your 3 destroyers into two battle groups: the first one with 1 destroyer, and the 2nd with the other 2 set to arrive maybe 1-5 minutes after the first one. if you knock a starbase down even .1, it only has the CV (combat value) of the integer part of its level, so a level 1.9 starbase has the same defense value as a level 1 starbase, and 2 destroyers have 100% chance to win against that. Even if he has +4/+4 for attack and defense, if you do split up your destroyers like that you'll have a 92% chance of winning, as opposed to a 48% chance.
So, basically the purpose of your first destroyer is to knock down the afk'ers starbase to less than 2, and the 2nd battle group is to mop things up.
*edit* this is assuming you have no bonus/malus to attack <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
=) i did that last game <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
in other news i have 4 destroyers and 2 colony ships, im gonna destroyer exchange with nuke the place hopefully soon...
I realise now that I built my culture up too high - but it would have worked out fine if my "ally" had sent the fleet to me 40+hrs ago.
Wish me luck - if the attack on the afk'er fails I will have lost mega PP and time <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You could'a tried the fragmented attack that Wheeee talked about. 2 destoyers win against a level 1 starbase.
Still, GL! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
That's a good point, but we're talking about afk'ers here. Still, I suppose afk'ers could always log...maybe.
I think AFKers generally don't respond at all, but I'll keep that in mind. (Learning from the experts makes life easy.) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well, hopefully people won't catch on. Everyone start researching math!
I'm just gonna keep my maths/physics topped up enough to prevent people getting the bonus over me.
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I woke up to this pretty message.
So basically I just got level 1... 3 destroyers en route to second afk'er right now, waiting on culture 2 so i can take over the planet of unknown...
I've found myself a potential ally, however he's many many systems away from me, and who knows.
*edit* in other news, you only get experience for winning a battle. If you do the staggered attacks, you won't get as much experience, but you will almost assuredly win the battle with less casualties/expense on your side.