If your account still exists I can pay for alot of your <b>supar planet saving fleet</b>, but give people a chance, at least half the people posting here need massive amounts of cash OMG RIGHT NOW and there are only a handfull of people with extra cash.
Also keep in mind it takes around a day to get a decent amount of pps, since most people dont carry around a great deal of extras.
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Aight, a guy has taken over one of my planets with 137 battleships. I'm building up a fleet to take it back and I'm wondering how large it should be. He hasn't actually taken over the planet, because everytime his transports get there the population has grown.
His max science level is 21 and I'm going to have 22 physics by the time I attack. The guy's name is Hermes in case anyone wants to hurt him.
07:20:37 - Nov 16 Congratulations! We were victorious at Alpha Cor Scorpii 10. You gained 990 experience points from Egal78.
Haha, I just logged on just now to see that. I just captured that planet last night too. Had no clue a guy was coming. That was his second attempt. I kind of obliterated him and I hope it stays that way. So far i've been on a winning streak.
<!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Nov 16 2003, 12:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Nov 16 2003, 12:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Aight, a guy has taken over one of my planets with 137 battleships. I'm building up a fleet to take it back and I'm wondering how large it should be. He hasn't actually taken over the planet, because everytime his transports get there the population has grown.
His max science level is 21 and I'm going to have 22 physics by the time I attack. The guy's name is Hermes in case anyone wants to hurt him.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> 3000 destroyers or 160 battleships will give you a decent chance to win, in the 85% range. Mess around with the <a href='http://astrowars.com/about/battlecalculator/' target='_blank'>battle calculator</a> and see what it gives you.
note to eedot: Don't sell your SU's yet. The price for them has been skyrocketing, I predict its going to keep going up. So heold one to them for a while longer and you can get even more money for them.
<!--QuoteBegin--Burncycle+Nov 16 2003, 05:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Nov 16 2003, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Question: If you resign, do you restart in a new system? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
I just sent a huge fleet spread out between 4 planets in this guys system.
He called me a cheater and told me to F off b/c Im in a white star system and I sent all those battleships over.
lol
I had to send him a long message explaining how Ive had to move systems 5 times lol (Im the nomadic fleet player remember) and so Ive since accumulated lots of ships in the process. SO far Ive mangaged to build up 7 planets. I think im gonna settle down now lol and stay here depending if my fleet wins.
<!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Nov 16 2003, 08:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Nov 16 2003, 08:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just sent a huge fleet spread out between 4 planets in this guys system.
He called me a cheater and told me to F off b/c Im in a white star system and I sent all those battleships over.
lol
I had to send him a long message explaining how Ive had to move systems 5 times lol (Im the nomadic fleet player remember) and so Ive since accumulated lots of ships in the process. SO far Ive mangaged to build up 7 planets. I think im gonna settle down now lol and stay here depending if my fleet wins. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Alright sod lending money. I am willing to give small loans for the buying of artifacts, however lending money for the purchases of fleets and starbases are a big no - no. I have come to the conclusion that if you or your (nearby) alliance as in people playing next to you can't bail you out. (IT is better for them to get a fleet and fight them off that way.) Then too bad too sad, you will have to get reset.
REASON : I had a friend who was under attack by ~90 Destroyer ~50 Cruisers 200 Battleships
TOTAL CV ~> 13,000
HE got enough of his friends to loan him the money (I contributed 4,200) to raise it to a level 20 starbase. Over 25,000 PPs. Using the trusty little battle calc we gave the worst case scenario of him having a 78% chance of winning and leaving a level 19 starbase. HE LOST, most of his planets are under siege and the chance of any us getting our money back is slim to none.
Therefore, if you don't have the money or your friends fleets to help you out.... then GOOD FIGHT, GOOD NIGHT.
eediot - if people did send you money and you actually did have the intention of paying it back. It would only be right that the received the original amount they sent you. Having worked out how much it would require it to send, it would be twice as much as YOU received from them (depending on how low the amounts are, because the transfer fee bumps this up considerably) I mean if you only ever sent me back what you received, that would make it like half of what i sent which would make me want to put a bounty on you. Receiving transfers and promising to pay them back is expensive. I doubt you would be able to pay any of us back for a long time. Simply because if you beat him, he will only throw more back at you. so you will have to keep spending on fleets rather than repaying your lendors. I will use this for example You need $750 I send you $1250 and you receive $750 If you only send me the $750 back then I will only get $375. less than half of what i originally sent. However to give me all $1250 back you would need to send at least $1900, over twice as much as what you received. Not a problem you say?
Alot of those percentages are absorbing the fee as well. You need $6000 I send you $8250 and you receive $6000 If you only send me back $6000 then I will only get $4312 a little over half of what I originally received. However to give me the $8000 back (I'd throw in the transfer for free.) then you would need to send $10,916 close to twice as much as what you received. Minus the transfer fee, any double transaction will be 56.25% of the original amount.
Given this. If you are going to borrow/send keep it small, because the person who receives will use it anyway and take twice as long to pay you back than what he would take to save himself. So if he is going to need something because he can't wait a couple of hours. then that should be fine. But if they are borrowing something that takes them a day to save, then the best case scenario would take you two days to get it all back.
Hmmm, this turned out longer than expected and I don't even know why I am posting a quote, I can't even remember what it is for. Oh well. (shrug)
Marine01 has been absent the past few days, suspect he is playing to new DoD update, what a nubcaek <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway. I have come to the understanding that he can see AllesRoger (AR) or one of his planets. (AR is the flayra of AW) AR is in the top #100 I think.
I propose a challenge. That marine01, despite the threat of having his account vaporised into nebulae, he attacks that planets of AR, and transports it down by like 8 levels. To reduce AR's ranking.
I mean it's not every day you get to pwn the creator of the game, AR or Flayra. so why let a golden opportunity like this one slide?
<!--QuoteBegin--es_quatro+Nov 16 2003, 11:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (es_quatro @ Nov 16 2003, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Marine01 has been absent the past few days, suspect he is playing to new DoD update, what a nubcaek <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway. I have come to the understanding that he can see AllesRoger (AR) or one of his planets. (AR is the flayra of AW) AR is in the top #100 I think.
I propose a challenge. That marine01, despite the threat of having his account vaporised into nebulae, he attacks that planets of AR, and transports it down by like 8 levels. To reduce AR's ranking.
I mean it's not every day you get to pwn the creator of the game, AR or Flayra. so why let a golden opportunity like this one slide?
Regards Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <i>That</i> I'm willing to fund!
o_O gave me 7 thousand, but about 5 hours too late to help... hehe
13:54:29 - Nov 17 You got $7191.75 from o_O. 08:27:21 - Nov 17 Congratulations! We were victorious at Beta Rigel 1. You gained 480 experience points from el_nota. 08:24:08 - Nov 17 Attention !!! We have evidence of an incoming fleet around that time. 40 Destroyer 6 Battleship going to attack Beta Rigel 1! We suppose its the Fleet of el_nota.
hehe
i won, though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
so now i have 20 thousand to throw around... im wondering, though. should i try and take it back? i dont think that 20 000 is that much of a fleet, especially if i have to send it against like an 11 starbase and 20 battleship defense <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
edit: Although, i dont know what to do about o_O. It would be illogical to pay him back [as Quatro explained before], but i dont want to just take it. if o_O sees this... what do you reckon? Come to me every time you have problems/need help? Because just to pay back unused money [especially an amount like 9000 which is what he would have had to pay], but it seems reasonable to offer to help him out whenever he needs it...
im gonig to pm him, just in case he doesnt read this
edit x 2: hehehe. i spent all my PP [excluding 4 SU's i have in bank], and my fleet now consists of: 35 destroyers [for small missions like raiding innocent newbies <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->] 26 cruisers [for defense], and 32 battleships [in case i see a weakness]
paranoia <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> what location are you
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Nov 16 2003, 11:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 16 2003, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Although, i dont know what to do about o_O. It would be illogical to pay him back [as Quatro explained before], <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> This is not what I meant.
It is illogical to *LEND* large amounts of money.
It is illogical to *RECEIVE* large amount of *BORROWED* money if either party is intent of the lendor getting their original amount back.
However, if o_O sent you that out of the sheer generousity, then it is not illogical. But if Obliterator has this sort of money to throw around. then why don't you come over and oppress the weaker systems with me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
EEdiot, well seeing you have already spent it, if o_O does want that money back. you will have to pay it whether it seems logical or not. Or at least most of it back.
Basically - if you require such a large donation otherwise you are going to blasted into oblivion, then I say restart. You probably haven't done something right. and will probably not use the money best to your situation. More often than not, you have just had bad luck and are being bashed unfairly. I started in a less than fair position and did not make the wisest judgements. Instead of just funding from my nearby alliance. I didn't want to be a leech and just well sort of restarted. Now it is better than ever. I am ploughing my way to the top. Look out all who stand in my way.
i didnt need it to survive. you may have noticed that the funds arrived a few hours [6] after the attack
edit: When he next attacks, i am going to counterattack where i must assume he attacks from [how can i determine this, unless i am online when he sends it and notice immediately?], but i would assume he attacks form the planet right next to me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Which i will take after i fend off his attack. or even attack while he sends to me, leaving enough to protect my base <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Transmission+Nov 16 2003, 11:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Transmission @ Nov 16 2003, 11:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--es_quatro+Nov 16 2003, 11:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (es_quatro @ Nov 16 2003, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Marine01 has been absent the past few days, suspect he is playing to new DoD update, what a nubcaek <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway. I have come to the understanding that he can see AllesRoger (AR) or one of his planets. (AR is the flayra of AW) AR is in the top #100 I think.
I propose a challenge. That marine01, despite the threat of having his account vaporised into nebulae, he attacks that planets of AR, and transports it down by like 8 levels. To reduce AR's ranking.
I mean it's not every day you get to pwn the creator of the game, AR or Flayra. so why let a golden opportunity like this one slide?
Regards Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <i>That</i> I'm willing to fund! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll say, I am tempted to log in to his account and launch his juggernaut myself.
If people are going to fund it then we had better before he hits 450 points.
<!--QuoteBegin--eediot+Nov 17 2003, 02:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eediot @ Nov 17 2003, 02:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i didnt need it to survive. you may have noticed that the funds arrived a few hours [6] after the attack
edit: When he next attacks, i am going to counterattack where i must assume he attacks from [how can i determine this, unless i am online when he sends it and notice immediately?], but i would assume he attacks form the planet right next to me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Which i will take after i fend off his attack. or even attack while he sends to me, leaving enough to protect my base <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> in saying surivive i meant, not become someone elses call girl, that they come and siege every time they need some cash or a new planet to colonise.
Some people near me only exist because , well I have got enough problems, but they could be easily dominated over night. And while I might not colonise them out of the universe. Their 'survival' is no more.
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
<!--QuoteBegin--es_quatro+Nov 16 2003, 10:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (es_quatro @ Nov 16 2003, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Cpl.Davis+Nov 16 2003, 08:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cpl.Davis @ Nov 16 2003, 08:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just sent a huge fleet spread out between 4 planets in this guys system.
He called me a cheater and told me to F off b/c Im in a white star system and I sent all those battleships over.
lol
I had to send him a long message explaining how Ive had to move systems 5 times lol (Im the nomadic fleet player remember) and so Ive since accumulated lots of ships in the process. SO far Ive mangaged to build up 7 planets. I think im gonna settle down now lol and stay here depending if my fleet wins. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright sod lending money. I am willing to give small loans for the buying of artifacts, however lending money for the purchases of fleets and starbases are a big no - no. I have come to the conclusion that if you or your (nearby) alliance as in people playing next to you can't bail you out. (IT is better for them to get a fleet and fight them off that way.) Then too bad too sad, you will have to get reset.
..............lots of text..............................................
Hmmm, this turned out longer than expected and I don't even know why I am posting a quote, I can't even remember what it is for. Oh well. (shrug)
Regards Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes y did you qoute me lol as my qoute has nothing to do with what you said. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> i made all those Battleships myself.
oh well. You had a good read.
I am victorious in that system now bwhahahah
btw in regards to lending, If underDog ever comes back I have some credits to give him <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> He helped me out a while back , he gave me some money before he resigned...and ive prospered ever since his A$ donation. When that big bad evil player came to wipe me out a while ago. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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If your account still exists I can pay for alot of your <b>supar planet saving fleet</b>, but give people a chance, at least half the people posting here need massive amounts of cash OMG RIGHT NOW and there are only a handfull of people with extra cash.
Also keep in mind it takes around a day to get a decent amount of pps, since most people dont carry around a great deal of extras.
and i still have 7 SU's in my 'bank'
and a planet in the system
however he has given reinforcements to the planets there
but if i got a massive fleet i could wrestle it back
how much do you have?
NOT doing that caused my downfall.
Angelus2097 - Beta Tabit (planet 1) (-58/-70)
i aslo seem to have a couple AFK's in my system aswell, on planets 4 and 10
Theres a guy on 7 that seems to be doing stuff, but is a lower population lvl than me
seeing as you cant use spend all points to your advantage, you may as well just send out a few colony ships
His max science level is 21 and I'm going to have 22 physics by the time I attack. The guy's name is Hermes in case anyone wants to hurt him.
Haha, I just logged on just now to see that. I just captured that planet last night too. Had no clue a guy was coming. That was his second attempt. I kind of obliterated him and I hope it stays that way. So far i've been on a winning streak.
His max science level is 21 and I'm going to have 22 physics by the time I attack. The guy's name is Hermes in case anyone wants to hurt him.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3000 destroyers or 160 battleships will give you a decent chance to win, in the 85% range. Mess around with the <a href='http://astrowars.com/about/battlecalculator/' target='_blank'>battle calculator</a> and see what it gives you.
13 battleships attacked it the first time, and i killed it
this next time he is sending 40 destroyers and 6 battleships
against my
10 starbase
3 battleship
2 cruiser
9 destroyer
planet
chances are that i will win
but by a very small margin
Chance to win 0.58778 0.41222
Combat Value (XP) 482 450
eep
to : eediot
plz ill pay you back, im serious, i have 10 SU, 7 in selling line
cmonnnn
i need it like RIGHT now.. please
edit: minsk? anybody? plz... any money will be much appreciated. even if its just one more battleship or cruiser!
plz have it within the next 10 minutes.. i got school... eep
If you have so many, why not just cash them in rather than asking others to give you an even smaller amount?
Question:
If you resign, do you restart in a new system?
Question:
If you resign, do you restart in a new system? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes
He called me a cheater and told me to F off b/c Im in a white star system and I sent all those battleships over.
lol
I had to send him a long message explaining how Ive had to move systems 5 times lol (Im the nomadic fleet player remember) and so Ive since accumulated lots of ships in the process. SO far Ive mangaged to build up 7 planets. I think im gonna settle down now lol and stay here depending if my fleet wins.
He called me a cheater and told me to F off b/c Im in a white star system and I sent all those battleships over.
lol
I had to send him a long message explaining how Ive had to move systems 5 times lol (Im the nomadic fleet player remember) and so Ive since accumulated lots of ships in the process. SO far Ive mangaged to build up 7 planets. I think im gonna settle down now lol and stay here depending if my fleet wins. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright sod lending money.
I am willing to give small loans for the buying of artifacts, however lending money for the purchases of fleets and starbases are a big no - no. I have come to the conclusion that if you or your (nearby) alliance as in people playing next to you can't bail you out. (IT is better for them to get a fleet and fight them off that way.) Then too bad too sad, you will have to get reset.
REASON : I had a friend who was under attack by
~90 Destroyer
~50 Cruisers
200 Battleships
TOTAL CV ~> 13,000
HE got enough of his friends to loan him the money (I contributed 4,200) to raise it to a level 20 starbase. Over 25,000 PPs. Using the trusty little battle calc we gave the worst case scenario of him having a 78% chance of winning and leaving a level 19 starbase.
HE LOST, most of his planets are under siege and the chance of any us getting our money back is slim to none.
Therefore, if you don't have the money or your friends fleets to help you out.... then GOOD FIGHT, GOOD NIGHT.
eediot - if people did send you money and you actually did have the intention of paying it back. It would only be right that the received the original amount they sent you. Having worked out how much it would require it to send, it would be twice as much as YOU received from them (depending on how low the amounts are, because the transfer fee bumps this up considerably) I mean if you only ever sent me back what you received, that would make it like half of what i sent which would make me want to put a bounty on you. Receiving transfers and promising to pay them back is expensive. I doubt you would be able to pay any of us back for a long time. Simply because if you beat him, he will only throw more back at you. so you will have to keep spending on fleets rather than repaying your lendors.
I will use this for example
You need $750
I send you $1250 and you receive $750
If you only send me the $750 back then I will only get $375. less than half of what i originally sent.
However to give me all $1250 back you would need to send at least $1900, over twice as much as what you received. Not a problem you say?
Alot of those percentages are absorbing the fee as well.
You need $6000
I send you $8250 and you receive $6000
If you only send me back $6000 then I will only get $4312 a little over half of what I originally received.
However to give me the $8000 back (I'd throw in the transfer for free.) then you would need to send $10,916 close to twice as much as what you received.
Minus the transfer fee, any double transaction will be 56.25% of the original amount.
Given this. If you are going to borrow/send keep it small, because the person who receives will use it anyway and take twice as long to pay you back than what he would take to save himself. So if he is going to need something because he can't wait a couple of hours. then that should be fine. But if they are borrowing something that takes them a day to save, then the best case scenario would take you two days to get it all back.
Hmmm, this turned out longer than expected and I don't even know why I am posting a quote, I can't even remember what it is for. Oh well. (shrug)
Regards
Es Quatro
Anyway. I have come to the understanding that he can see AllesRoger (AR) or one of his planets. (AR is the flayra of AW) AR is in the top #100 I think.
I propose a challenge. That marine01, despite the threat of having his account vaporised into nebulae, he attacks that planets of AR, and transports it down by like 8 levels. To reduce AR's ranking.
I mean it's not every day you get to pwn the creator of the game, AR or Flayra. so why let a golden opportunity like this one slide?
Regards
Es Quatro
Anyway. I have come to the understanding that he can see AllesRoger (AR) or one of his planets. (AR is the flayra of AW) AR is in the top #100 I think.
I propose a challenge. That marine01, despite the threat of having his account vaporised into nebulae, he attacks that planets of AR, and transports it down by like 8 levels. To reduce AR's ranking.
I mean it's not every day you get to pwn the creator of the game, AR or Flayra. so why let a golden opportunity like this one slide?
Regards
Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>That</i> I'm willing to fund!
Well.
Had.
19 Battleships.
I'm gonna go find a relatively low system, and crush it. I won't colonize, just crush it. Take out Starbases and stuff.
My Fleet is:
140 Destroyers
14 Cruisers (Defensive only)
33 Battleships.
o_O gave me 7 thousand, but about 5 hours too late to help... hehe
13:54:29 - Nov 17 You got $7191.75 from o_O.
08:27:21 - Nov 17 Congratulations! We were victorious at Beta Rigel 1. You gained 480 experience points from el_nota.
08:24:08 - Nov 17 Attention !!! We have evidence of an incoming fleet around that time.
40 Destroyer
6 Battleship
going to attack Beta Rigel 1!
We suppose its the Fleet of el_nota.
hehe
i won, though <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
so now i have 20 thousand to throw around... im wondering, though. should i try and take it back? i dont think that 20 000 is that much of a fleet, especially if i have to send it against like an 11 starbase and 20 battleship defense <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
edit: Although, i dont know what to do about o_O. It would be illogical to pay him back [as Quatro explained before], but i dont want to just take it. if o_O sees this... what do you reckon? Come to me every time you have problems/need help? Because just to pay back unused money [especially an amount like 9000 which is what he would have had to pay], but it seems reasonable to offer to help him out whenever he needs it...
im gonig to pm him, just in case he doesnt read this
edit x 2: hehehe. i spent all my PP [excluding 4 SU's i have in bank], and my fleet now consists of: 35 destroyers [for small missions like raiding innocent newbies <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->] 26 cruisers [for defense], and 32 battleships [in case i see a weakness]
This is not what I meant.
It is illogical to *LEND* large amounts of money.
It is illogical to *RECEIVE* large amount of *BORROWED* money if either party is intent of the lendor getting their original amount back.
However, if o_O sent you that out of the sheer generousity, then it is not illogical. But if Obliterator has this sort of money to throw around. then why don't you come over and oppress the weaker systems with me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
EEdiot, well seeing you have already spent it, if o_O does want that money back. you will have to pay it whether it seems logical or not. Or at least most of it back.
Basically - if you require such a large donation otherwise you are going to blasted into oblivion, then I say restart. You probably haven't done something right. and will probably not use the money best to your situation. More often than not, you have just had bad luck and are being bashed unfairly. I started in a less than fair position and did not make the wisest judgements. Instead of just funding from my nearby alliance. I didn't want to be a leech and just well sort of restarted. Now it is better than ever. I am ploughing my way to the top. Look out all who stand in my way.
Regards
Es Quatro
edit: When he next attacks, i am going to counterattack where i must assume he attacks from [how can i determine this, unless i am online when he sends it and notice immediately?], but i would assume he attacks form the planet right next to me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Which i will take after i fend off his attack. or even attack while he sends to me, leaving enough to protect my base <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway. I have come to the understanding that he can see AllesRoger (AR) or one of his planets. (AR is the flayra of AW) AR is in the top #100 I think.
I propose a challenge. That marine01, despite the threat of having his account vaporised into nebulae, he attacks that planets of AR, and transports it down by like 8 levels. To reduce AR's ranking.
I mean it's not every day you get to pwn the creator of the game, AR or Flayra. so why let a golden opportunity like this one slide?
Regards
Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>That</i> I'm willing to fund! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll say, I am tempted to log in to his account and launch his juggernaut myself.
If people are going to fund it then we had better before he hits 450 points.
Regards
Es Quatro
edit: When he next attacks, i am going to counterattack where i must assume he attacks from [how can i determine this, unless i am online when he sends it and notice immediately?], but i would assume he attacks form the planet right next to me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Which i will take after i fend off his attack. or even attack while he sends to me, leaving enough to protect my base <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
in saying surivive i meant, not become someone elses call girl, that they come and siege every time they need some cash or a new planet to colonise.
Some people near me only exist because , well I have got enough problems, but they could be easily dominated over night. And while I might not colonise them out of the universe. Their 'survival' is no more.
Regards
Es Quatro
you are misunderstanding the situation.
yes you are correct, but you are misguided in applying it to my circumstances
ho hum
He called me a cheater and told me to F off b/c Im in a white star system and I sent all those battleships over.
lol
I had to send him a long message explaining how Ive had to move systems 5 times lol (Im the nomadic fleet player remember) and so Ive since accumulated lots of ships in the process. SO far Ive mangaged to build up 7 planets. I think im gonna settle down now lol and stay here depending if my fleet wins. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright sod lending money.
I am willing to give small loans for the buying of artifacts, however lending money for the purchases of fleets and starbases are a big no - no. I have come to the conclusion that if you or your (nearby) alliance as in people playing next to you can't bail you out. (IT is better for them to get a fleet and fight them off that way.) Then too bad too sad, you will have to get reset.
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Hmmm, this turned out longer than expected and I don't even know why I am posting a quote, I can't even remember what it is for. Oh well. (shrug)
Regards
Es Quatro <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes y did you qoute me lol as my qoute has nothing to do with what you said.
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i made all those Battleships myself.
oh well. You had a good read.
I am victorious in that system now bwhahahah
btw in regards to lending, If underDog ever comes back I have some credits to give him <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> He helped me out a while back , he gave me some money before he resigned...and ive prospered ever since his A$ donation. When that big bad evil player came to wipe me out a while ago.
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