AllUrHiveRblong2usBy Your Powers Combined...Join Date: 2002-12-20Member: 11244Members
I've played TFC for a few years now, and I've never ever playe at a server where these rules are evern mentioned, nevermind enforced. Am I lucky, or do I just play at n00bified servers?
And personally I don't think I could live if snipers weren't allowed.
I have never seen a no potshoting server, or a no chasing server. just lucky i guess.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Fact remains though, pyros get a lot of flak as a wasted class<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ive never seen this, of course thats because i play pyro, and it doesnt take long for people to bow to my stupendous power (im rely rusty now though, so i dont think ill get another 45-3 game (one cap)). Usaly after about 10 minutes i see alot of people trying to be a pyro too, its funy though, cus they tend to suck at it.
Chasing
I chase like no tomarow its fun. I when i say im fighting somone, they find it hard to get away, i will chase them into there respawn, kill them while they are siting on medpacks, and then if posable get out of the respawn (cus if you dont get out that cealing gun gets ya)
<!--QuoteBegin--MedHead+May 26 2003, 11:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ May 26 2003, 11:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->12) No offense shooting defense outside - If their defense is outside take advantage of it, don't sit here moaning about it that you can't kill them.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You missed the point! In many servers, you're not allowed to shoot at each other! That's considered yard defense! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's usually considered okay to yard D if the flag is on their yard.
Anyhoo, TFC is seeming to be doing just fine to this day with 4 strong leagues and clans still comming in each day.
Those rules have been around so long, they're as meaningful as camping, spawn camping, sitting on an RT, F4ing out of a game to end early, recycling the base, you being on a team where they all go gorge, keeping an IP intact and killing the spawners:ie spawn camping again, etc. I mean, if you were to do that crap, would you not consider it lame, but then consider the fact that people made them up?
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->No scout, medic, spy on defense - This isn't a rule, but in general soldiers, demos, and HW make much better defense than these classes.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not really. Ever have a scout steal your flag? The medic can chase through the base long enough to pump a few shells into his back. A medic on defense makes a fine addition to any team. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not only that, but lets not forget the fact that scouts and spies are the only class that can uncover enemy spies for a reason.
Running into the enemy respawn, infecting their whole team is great fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
People dont realize, instead of whining about it they could go get some payback. A rocket does more damage than any petty flames ever could. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
BTW: mod should lock this topic, if jediyoshi defends these stupid rules any longer im gonna explode >_<
Also lots of people over-react to a medic infection too. Its really not that big of a deal, and very rarely lethal. It works great for distraction/morale destruction though, which is why I do it a lot. But apparently lots of people have trouble with turning around and shooting at the guy behind them, cause I've been on people's backs with the medpack for a good 10 seconds before they turn around and even try to shoot me...
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
When I get my new harddrive (in a few hours actually <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ) I'll have enough space to get TFC again, can somebody give me the IP or name of a server that doesn't have any of these retarded rules?
PulseTo create, to create and escape.Join Date: 2002-08-29Member: 1248Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin--JediYoshi+May 26 2003, 09:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JediYoshi @ May 26 2003, 09:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't think you guys are seeing my point, is F4ing out of a game lame? Yes. But then how come it is lame to do it when it was a user made rule? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because F4ing actually <i>is</i> lame, while chasing is something I like to call "Playing the game"
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->just another tfc server is good, but i think they use mirror damage (shoot a teammate and you take the damage) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You may have just referred to NHB's clan server here. Server name is "Another d*mn TFC server" and yes we use mirror damage.
<!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+May 26 2003, 03:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ May 26 2003, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, but at least when a person F4's they don't have to worry about being banned or kicked. A person chases and *wham* K/B <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Uhh, yes you can, I'm sure at least 1/4 of the NS servers out there at least address in the console greeting about F4ing.
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F4ing is not "Playing the game" It is quite literally "Ending the game" In certain situations it is ok, but when you see "OMG TH3y Hv F4d3s!!!1111 F4!!!!11111111111111111111" well, that is lame, shooting the other team is not, m'kay?
If you enjoy chasing and potshotting in TFC stick to the servers that don't frown upon it. Some of us enjoy a little thing called "clean" or "organized" play, where, from a defender's perspective, you can be defense inside the base and have some of the enemy offense make it across the map with full health when they get to you. I have found that servers with no potshotting/yard D rules tend to degrade into pure chaos with little more than a huge spamfest in the middle. Again, if piping the bridge on 2fort is your idea of a good time there are plenty of servers out there that don't frown upon this at all. The offense's job is to pull the flag...attacking the enemy team's offense does NOTHING to this end, and is in fact counter-productive to it.
I have seen it said in many locked threads on these boards: if you don't like the way somebody runs their server then buy your own and run it the way you think it should be run.
I feel a great swell of pity for the poor soul that get's kb'd for chasing an opponent down. Rather than blame the creators of the mod for not implementing a proper Offense and Defense mode where the classes ARE meant to do those roles, we'll just ban the player for not sticking to our little honour code. Yup, that'll show them who's boss.
I will play the game the way it was meant to be played. No honour code will stop me from capping a flag while I'm on 'defense'. No honour code will stop me from infecting players. No honour code will stop me from chasing your whiny little avatar down and killing him.
Roscoe pretty much explained what I've been trying to explain clearly all along. The focus of the game is to capture the flag, not showing the other team your brand spankin new SPAM-O-RAMA 8000 grenade you just got. The rules are meant to keep the focus on the flag, not mindless killing.
WTH are you people talking about? This must be something new because like I quit like a year ago and I have never heard of any of this. All I did was popshoot and chase.
<-- Pyro
I liked killing snipers and stuff. How would you do that president map with out popshooting?
Once again I point out that most of you are relating this to pubbing experiences. Most of these rules are intended for league play. ANd no I'm not trying to be elitist, thats just the way it is.
Otto, I think you're missing the point. Yes, we're talking about pubbing, because most of us aren't in TFC clans. The rules we are discussing <b>are</b> intended for league play. However, due to the rampant elitism in league/clan play, it has infected the mindset of many public servers out there. What used to be considered a public server is now basically a public CLAN server. A server that plays just to have fun is much more difficult to find these days.
12.98.100.55:27015 Mayberry - BarneyFife.Net TFC #1 Low G 12.98.100.34:27015 Mayberry - BarneyFife.Net TFC #3 Low G
I would have to agree with you then. Yea like I said my clan does have those rules, but there are times in pubs when we just undo that button on our pants and let our gut hang out <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thanks. I really don't mind if clans want to have their own set of rules - frankly, I don't care. However, I would like pub gaming to be like it was. And it's not anymore. Either it's a public clan server, or it's chaos (rampant team shooting, swearing, general cluelessness). It's hard to find a server that doesn't enforce (what I consider to be) picky rules, and yet have a good player base.
Copied straight from HLIT... thats where me and my clan usually play since our server is usually empty.. usually you can get away with stuff just as long as you dont do it repetitively....
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And personally I don't think I could live if snipers weren't allowed.
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Ive never seen this, of course thats because i play pyro, and it doesnt take long for people to bow to my stupendous power (im rely rusty now though, so i dont think ill get another 45-3 game (one cap)). Usaly after about 10 minutes i see alot of people trying to be a pyro too, its funy though, cus they tend to suck at it.
Chasing
I chase like no tomarow its fun. I when i say im fighting somone, they find it hard to get away, i will chase them into there respawn, kill them while they are siting on medpacks, and then if posable get out of the respawn (cus if you dont get out that cealing gun gets ya)
You missed the point! In many servers, you're not allowed to shoot at each other! That's considered yard defense! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's usually considered okay to yard D if the flag is on their yard.
Anyhoo, TFC is seeming to be doing just fine to this day with 4 strong leagues and clans still comming in each day.
Those rules have been around so long, they're as meaningful as camping, spawn camping, sitting on an RT, F4ing out of a game to end early, recycling the base, you being on a team where they all go gorge, keeping an IP intact and killing the spawners:ie spawn camping again, etc. I mean, if you were to do that crap, would you not consider it lame, but then consider the fact that people made them up?
Not really. Ever have a scout steal your flag? The medic can chase through the base long enough to pump a few shells into his back. A medic on defense makes a fine addition to any team. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not only that, but lets not forget the fact that scouts and spies are the only class that can uncover enemy spies for a reason.
People dont realize, instead of whining about it they could go get some payback. A rocket does more damage than any petty flames ever could. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
BTW: mod should lock this topic, if jediyoshi defends these stupid rules any longer im gonna explode >_<
I play on low grav muppets in space, its pretty good
jigglypuffs jigly room is good
just another tfc server is good, but i think they use mirror damage (shoot a teammate and you take the damage)
D&B destroyers used to be realy good, but i cant find it anymore.
Because F4ing actually <i>is</i> lame, while chasing is something I like to call "Playing the game"
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You may have just referred to NHB's clan server here. Server name is "Another d*mn TFC server" and yes we use mirror damage.
Uhh, yes you can, I'm sure at least 1/4 of the NS servers out there at least address in the console greeting about F4ing.
edit: not like email them OMG U R TEH LAME I H8 U TO H311
but ask them to unban you because some racist admin banned all the french people and not all the german people (germany didn't support the war. DURR)
if you're gonna hate non-war supporters, be f*cking consistent, you biased idiots.
I have seen it said in many locked threads on these boards: if you don't like the way somebody runs their server then buy your own and run it the way you think it should be run.
I feel a great swell of pity for the poor soul that get's kb'd for chasing an opponent down. Rather than blame the creators of the mod for not implementing a proper Offense and Defense mode where the classes ARE meant to do those roles, we'll just ban the player for not sticking to our little honour code. Yup, that'll show them who's boss.
I will play the game the way it was meant to be played. No honour code will stop me from capping a flag while I'm on 'defense'. No honour code will stop me from infecting players. No honour code will stop me from chasing your whiny little avatar down and killing him.
Viva La Chaos
you should all be shot
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<-- Pyro
I liked killing snipers and stuff. How would you do that president map with out popshooting?
12.98.100.55:27015 Mayberry - BarneyFife.Net TFC #1 Low G
12.98.100.34:27015 Mayberry - BarneyFife.Net TFC #3 Low G
These ones are pretty good.
Copied straight from HLIT... thats where me and my clan usually play since our server is usually empty.. usually you can get away with stuff just as long as you dont do it repetitively....