People Making Up Their Own Rules Sucks.

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">especially in TFC...</div>I hate stupid people. Especially when they run a server...

Why oh why has the majority of the TFC community decided its dumb to play as a medic? Whenever I play as a medic, I get kickbanned from the servers. Hey idiot, if you weren't meant to infect your enemies, they wouldn't have coded that in! Morons...

rant over. I'm just **** cause I'm banned from all the TFC servers I used to frequent simply because they make up their own rules..

What's next, NS servers kickbanning people who go lerk?
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  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited May 2003
    New Forum rules, no ranting *temp bans Doom for ranting*

    edit: On topic, I've been banned from NS servers for sieging and more recently passing out jetpacks. Go figure.

    To clarify on the sieging the Admin let me know that everyone knows siege cannons are for defense only before banning me.
  • JediYoshiJediYoshi The Cupcake Boss Join Date: 2002-05-27 Member: 674Members
    What'd you do? I quit playing TFC myself though, got to hardcore at a point.
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    TFC is for people with abandonment issues anyways. I quit playing when I got killed by a random demoman running into our base throwing every grenade he had everywhere for the 6 millionth time (which means I only played for about 2 hours)
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Buh, it's rare to find a good server admin anymore.

    When childish people have access to a server, they do childish things.
  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    a certain admin who will remain namelss will kick for being an alien for too many rounds:)
    it is simply a fact that there are childish admins out there they actually can be kinda fun as long as tehy arent **** at you
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    DOOM I've gone and wasted my 1000th post on you <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    This is something that has always plagued Half-Life.

    One thing I can remember is not to shoot on the 2fort bridge. I mean how stupid can you get. I don't want to get shot at so I'll give covering fire. But as soon as I hit that bridge. I've got to swear at the sniper about to blow my brains out and hope it makes him miss somehow. Which isn't that possible seeing as he can't hear me.

    If someone can give me a good reason why I can't shoot from the 2fort bridge I'd like to hear it!
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+May 25 2003, 06:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ May 25 2003, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To clarify on the sieging the Admin let me know that everyone knows siege cannons are for defense only before banning me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Should you come up against such guys, just give them my E-Mail adress. I'm fresh out of sedatives and don't know where to aim my aggression... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+May 25 2003, 06:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 25 2003, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's next, NS servers kickbanning people who go lerk? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no they kickban comms because you're not supposed to see all the map
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    Bah... I got kicked because I used acid rocket...
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I got kb for being french
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+May 25 2003, 11:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ May 25 2003, 11:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I got kb for being french <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some servers demand that you speak english. This I can understand I mean if they will kicj you for swaring and insulting if they dotn know the other language how can they kick ou? Another reason is that so your teamates know what you are saying.

    Still I beleive its wrong to just kick people before asking them to speak english. Always give 2 warnings then kick. I'd only use a ban if someone was a persistant rule breaker.

    Still its out of controll.
  • InjuryInjury Mahou Shoujo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7992Banned
    I enjoyed the HomeLAN servers back in the day. I dropped TFC for DoD, then moved to NS and am now back to DoD until 1.1 is released..
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+May 25 2003, 05:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ May 25 2003, 05:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+May 25 2003, 06:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ May 25 2003, 06:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To clarify on the sieging the Admin let me know that everyone knows siege cannons are for defense only before banning me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Should you come up against such guys, just give them my E-Mail adress. I'm fresh out of sedatives and don't know where to aim my aggression... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, really, Nemmy. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Why would they be called <b>Siege</b> Cannons if they're meant for DEFENSE? If they were meant for defense, wouldn't Flayra have coded in a requirement to be in range of a CC? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • InjuryInjury Mahou Shoujo Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7992Banned
    Offensive CC'ing is cool. The stuff of masters and legends.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--XILLER+May 25 2003, 10:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XILLER @ May 25 2003, 10:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+May 25 2003, 11:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ May 25 2003, 11:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I got kb for being french <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some servers demand that you speak english. This I can understand I mean if they will kicj you for swaring and insulting if they dotn know the other language how can they kick ou? Another reason is that so your teamates know what you are saying.

    Still I beleive its wrong to just kick people before asking them to speak english. Always give 2 warnings then kick. I'd only use a ban if someone was a persistant rule breaker.

    Still its out of controll. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well apparently I can speak english (otherwise what am I doing here) and someone just asked where everyone was from and so I said france and everyone starting yelling some racist comments some thing about us being terrorists and they wanted to bomb the Eiffel tower, then I got kickbanned <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    You see thats wrong. We gota stop that sort of ppl getting into NS. What was the name of the server so I can take it out of my server list?
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    It's sad too see what kind of idiots get a hold of the admin positions. Clans who give admin to all their members seem to be the worst offenders.

    It's sadder seeing other people in games with more composure than the admins running them...
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+May 25 2003, 06:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ May 25 2003, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I said france and everyone starting yelling some racist comments some thing about us being terrorists and they wanted to bomb the Eiffel tower, then I got kickbanned <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So THEY want to bomb the Eiffel Tower (though I must admit it looked tacky with Annee 2000! plastered in Neon all over it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ) and that makes YOU a terrorist <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Sound reasoning <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    The only 2 types of Medics I encountered on pubs:

    1) Lamer conc jumpers, conc jump, grab flag, conc jump, cap flag. Repeat x50. Somone shooting you? Conc Jump away! Back when I played TFC like a religion, there was only 2 Medics on the server who could face me and leave the base alive, of course that was back when anything less then 50-4 was abnormal for me, now I suck. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    2) Lamer infecters, spawn, infect, infect, infect, etc. Usually easy to kill, but theres always a **** on your team who infects you, ALWAYS.

    I have never encountered a Medic that actually healed people and followed them. Thats my biggest beef <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    of course it is. If we're not with you we're against you. And you're the good guys right?

    I don't remember the server name and honestly don't want to figure it out. It was something like extremekillers and I went there because I had no reg servers back then and it was the quickstart server
  • FlyFlownFlyFlown Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15847Members, Constellation
    DOOM, if u wanna play medic, then go play in UK/FR servers, gamestyle is very different and medics never get kbanned (to my knowledge at least!). And don't start with "fr servers are full of newbs etc" please.
  • mRWafflesmRWaffles Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4713Members
    That is why I quit TFC.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Injury+May 25 2003, 07:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Injury @ May 25 2003, 07:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I enjoyed the HomeLAN servers back in the day. I dropped TFC for DoD, then moved to NS and am now back to DoD until 1.1 is released.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, HomeLAN servers are the place to go if you can't stand crooked crappy admins.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+May 25 2003, 06:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ May 25 2003, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well apparently I can speak english (otherwise what am I doing here) and someone just asked where everyone was from and so I said france and everyone starting yelling some racist comments some thing about us being terrorists and they wanted to bomb the Eiffel tower, then I got kickbanned <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And you're annoyed you got kb? God, if i were on a server like that i'd BEG to be kb'd.

    No loss whatsoever.
  • HWGuy_in_a_CanHWGuy_in_a_Can Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13397Members
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Venmoch+May 25 2003, 01:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ May 25 2003, 01:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One thing I can remember is not to shoot on the 2fort bridge. I mean how stupid can you get. I don't want to get shot at so I'll give covering fire. But as soon as I hit that bridge. I've got to swear at the sniper about to blow my brains out and hope it makes him miss somehow. Which isn't that possible seeing as he can't hear me.

    If someone can give me a good reason why I can't shoot from the 2fort bridge I'd like to hear it! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I guess the task of a Sniper on the 2fort battlements is to shoot at enemies, plain and simple (preferably with leg shots so that when the enemy O meets a demise at the hands of the friendly D, the friendly O team doesn't have to engage enemy O that prefer to chase). I consider Snipers to be neither exclusively O nor D. Snipers on D shoot at people going for their flag (what D is supposed to do) and Snipers on O shoot at people attacking their people going for the flag (what O has to do anyway en route to the enemy flag). That middle ground is pretty much no-man's land, much like Deathmatch. In any case, I hate the punks, so blast away! D:

    I am of the opinion that the medic's infect ability lasts too long. No other detrimental effect, such as conc and caltrop and including up to death, lasts that long. It's possible to outlast the infection by staying in the respawn room and using up all the medkits, but that is extremely selfish.

    If infected, I'll try to stay in my positions for as long as possible before hitting the kill button. Of course, he'll have to get close enough to infect me first. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I've always wondered about the position of the Medic. By what he is given, he is offensive support, healing the Soldiers or Demomen with him and really screwing up the enemy defense with Infect and conc. By the way most people play, though, the Medic is a self-supporting, tougher, stronger Scout with frag grenades that can really screw up the enemy defense. That's my way of considering Medics to be too strong.
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    edited May 2003
    Stupid rules of TFC:

    <b>1. No chasing.</b> Offense must never turn around and chase after enemy offense, even if it is necessary.
    <b>2. No potshotting.</b> Offense must never shoot at offense, even if passing right beside the enemy player (ala 2fort). What is even worse is if you turn around and shoot at their backs.
    <b>3. No yard defense.</b> Your defense must stay in the base - no standing around outside. Even if the yard is 2 miles long, you must stand inside the base doors.
    <b>4. No infecting.</b> Medics may not infect any enemy players. Even though it is a weapon coded by Valve.
    <b>5. No grenades near respawn.</b> No grenades may be placed near respawn. Some servers allow a few, but most don't want any.
    <b>6. No sentry guns in enemy base.</b> Sentry guns must never be placed in enemy base. This is just embarrassing for the players.
    <b>7. No scout, spy, or medic on defense.</b> No scouts, spies, or medics are allowed on defense. Obviously, Valve forgot to enter that restriction. I mean, who needs scouts? It's not like they detect spies. Wait, they do. Well, spies on defense don't have a weapon that kills in one hit. Wait. They do. Well, medics aren't fast running healing machines. Wait. They are.
    <b>8. No chasing flag runner to enemy base.</b> Once they leave your base, you can't chase them down any longer. Obviously working for the cap isn't expected.
    <b>9. No snipers. Ever.</b> No snipers allowed. And if you do, don't dare use it in the yard.
    <b>10. No pyros.</b> They just annoy. TFC is a serious 'sport' - we don't want any silly things in this game.
    <b>11. No shooting from battlements.</b> No defense must shoot enemy offense who is traveling from base to base. I know a server that kicks/bans for this. Similar to rule 3.
    <b>12. Offense must not shoot enemy offense from outside of the base.</b> Similar to rule 11 and 3, no offense is allowed to shoot at enemy defense until the offense member gets in the enemy base. Once again, this rule has resulted in kicks/bans.


    I'm sure there are more. It's stupid. The leagues and clans have made the game brainless. It's no longer fun, it's just monotony.
  • ElectricSheepElectricSheep Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15716Members
    TFC is an awesome game that i play hardcore. there r stupid servers and i avoid them. I play on (CMF Training Grounds-1 which is a good server. There r no rules there other than no hacking and some minor class restrictions to stop the whole team from being a sniper party but thats only on certain maps to. We play alot of maps including ones that arn't played much like bounce (BOUNCE RULES) Occasionnaly a jackass will come in but not that often and they get kicked if they do. INFECTING IS ALLOWED WOOOOOOOO!!! only problem is theres no <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo--> s. Hehe id love to see a medic fight some skulks or gorges.
  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    I got kicked once when the admin found out i was sleeping with his sister.... I mean, that doesnt even have anything to do with the game
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+May 25 2003, 02:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ May 25 2003, 02:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And you're annoyed you got kb? God, if i were on a server like that i'd BEG to be kb'd.

    No loss whatsoever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no I'm not **** off at getting banned. I just saddens me that people misue admin powers to satisfy their political opinions on fair players. Yeah, I could have left the server, but I don't know.. I suppose I just tried to convince them that we're just sharing our passion for a game, playing, having fun. Yeah I would have left after trying to explain to them how moronic they sounded, but I would surely have prefered leaving on my own (and not setting my feet again in there) rather than just getting kick-banned.


    Yeah, just wanted to give them a piece of my mind before leaving -alone- from their server.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+May 25 2003, 01:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 25 2003, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hate stupid people. Especially when they run a server...

    Why oh why has the majority of the TFC community decided its dumb to play as a medic? Whenever I play as a medic, I get kickbanned from the servers. Hey idiot, if you weren't meant to infect your enemies, they wouldn't have coded that in! Morons...

    rant over. I'm just **** cause I'm banned from all the TFC servers I used to frequent simply because they make up their own rules..

    What's next, NS servers kickbanning people who go lerk? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is the stupidest argument i've ever heard...

    You can't tell me that Flayra has predicted every NS tactic just because he coded it... It's the same way with TFC.

    The whole "infect and run" tactic you eluded to can be quite chaiotic at times... Most servers will enforce a "stay and fight" rule so some newbie doesn't go into the spawn by the medpacks infecting everyone... The way I see it, it can even be considered raging at times because it's doing nothing more than frusterating the entire team due to one newbie.

    CS has the AWP... NS has the HMG/JP rush.. every game has an unwanted or unforseen flaw, just because you are on the giving end of it and getting punishment for being lame with it doesnt' mean that the server ops are evil... Would you rather they restrict medic access all together?
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