Auto Reload

ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
edited April 2003 in New Player Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">Can I turn it off ?</div> Hey ppl,

I'm sure you all know that when that skulk comes heading towards you, you empty your lmg clip into the thing ( <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ) and when your clip is empty you know that you could kill it with one more lowsy pistol shot, but then you discover the the damn thing instantly reloads and you have to keep jumping like a madman hoping to stay alive...


well, can I turn auto reload off <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> ?

[Of course this would only be on the very exceptional occasion that I actually play marines *barf*]
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited April 2003
    1. For me, I do not have to wait to switch weapon, even in mid-reload.
    2. I do not jump like some **obscenity** trying to exploit the hitboxes.
    3. No, you cannot turn auto reload off, it is mod-specific(ie, if a mod dev team wants to turn it off, they can, but individuals can't).

    EDIT: **** is a four letter word? :/
  • 2of12B0RG2of12B0RG Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11285Members
    Now jumping is an exploit? God.... will running be next?
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Wot r hitboxes? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--2of12[B0RG]+Apr 19 2003, 03:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2of12[B0RG] @ Apr 19 2003, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now jumping is an exploit? God.... will running be next? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you stupid or do you just not read the forums properly? Its been clearly stated that marine hitboxes are bugged, since when they jump(and even more, crouch in mid-air), they become much harder to hit. PLUS, theres the exploit of jumping backwards so you aren't slower like you SHOULD be.
    It will all be fixed in 1.1.

    Hitboxes...well, Half-Life register hits with the help of hitboxes, which is why you can't bit in a random area and hit someone, that isn't even nearby, or something similar. Actually thats a bad example, but its really hard to explain.
    A model is made up of the model, skin, and hitboxes. The model, is what shows shape. Skin shows the <i>look</i> of the object, without a skin, a model is just dull grey. Hitboxes are set up on the model, and in order to harm a player, you need to attack any hitbox on his model.
    With the HLModelViewer you can see hitboxes for all players/structures(though they r incorrect in NS, considering where to aim to hit a skulk etc), but I don't know where to get it.
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    <img src='http://members.home.nl/guido18/buttout.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    1st: ur mean
    2nd: this IS the new player forum
    3rd: you are way off topic

    So now, is there any way I can change my reload problem without doing something that could be considered cheating? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CatpokerCatpoker Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 816Members
    edited April 2003
    i guess i will be the nice one and say, no

    there is no way to turn it off,

    best thing to avoid auto-reload is to not go down to 0 with you bullets,

    swich before you run out

    edit: that pic is funny, but might be deleated by the mods
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    You DO know you can switch weapon mid-reload don't ya ?
    hehe
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited April 2003
    [edited the pic, hehehe <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> ]

    Guys... I don't know if your weaponswitch speed is different,
    but I either can't switch while reloading, or it is like very very slow... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    And it isn't really very easy to stop firing before your clip is empty, wel at least not when ur a triggerhappy <censored> like me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    I can switch 643 times a sec between LMG and pistol if I want to...
    hehe
    Might wanna try out fastswitch
    hud_fastswitch 1 in console
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited April 2003
    just hit tilde and type: "hud_fastswitch 1" ?

    [/edit]
    I just did it. and I actually cannot switch weapons while mid-reload Jower... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    fwd scroll is switch next weap
    bck scroll is reload

    maybe that makes a difference <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ?
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    This is what hud_fastswitch does
    It makes the numberkeys switch to the weapon under that key directly instead of bringing down the big switch weapon hud thingy
    If there's more than one weapon in the category however it will still bring down the menu
    But since there's no category with more than one in each in NS that's no major issue <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    lol its really annoying when you pick somethig up midreload and you have to reload again :/
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited April 2003
    hmmm, still doesn't solve my prob <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited April 2003
    I said in my <i>first</i> post that you couldn't turn off auto-reload :/
    This is weird though, I can't see why you can't switch mid-reload, but we others can... it simply shouldn't be *happening. I mostly use lastinv to switch between my weapons tho, tried that? Probably won't make a difference, but hell, any cure is welcome for most problems.
    bind x "lastinv"
    Incase you were wondering what I meant. It switches between your current weapon and the one you had selected previously.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ThinG+Apr 19 2003, 06:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThinG @ Apr 19 2003, 06:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just hit tilde and type: "hud_fastswitch 1" ?

    [/edit]
    I just did it. and I actually cannot switch weapons while mid-reload Jower... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    fwd scroll is switch next weap
    bck scroll is reload

    maybe that makes a difference <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think your mousewheel causes the problem.

    I use kp_0 for lmg and kp_1 for pistol. And i can switch while reloading.

    So bind your weapon switch buttons to keyboard and see how it goes. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Uuhm
    Switching with mousewheel works fine
    I just suggested the fastswitch cause that makes it easy to switch with the numberkeys
    I don't know how it comes you can't switch in mid-reload though
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    edited April 2003
    I'll try the lastinv thingy right now, I'll let ya know
    Can't say I really feel liek using keyboard, but I'll try, and if it works it'll have to do for that lone time I play rines <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Thx for all the help so far <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    There is a known bug with hud_fastswitch 1 and using the mousewheel to switch between weapons. If you have keys bound to different weapon slots (the way God intended Half-Life to be played <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) this problem wouldn't happen.

    If you really want to use the mousewheel to fastswitch your weapons, you have to use a script. In most other games, nextinv and lastinv work but not in NS (for some reason). You need something like this:

    <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias weapon1 "slot1; bind mwheeldown weapon2; unbind mwheelup"
    alias weapon2 "slot2; bind mwheeldown weapon3; bind mwheelup weapon1"
    alias weapon3 "slot3; bind mwheeldown weapon4; unbind mwheelup"
    bind mwheeldown weapon2<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

    To use this script, either stick it in a file called autoexec.cfg in your NS folder, or put it in a file called (whatever).cfg, and put the line <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->exec (whatever).cfg<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2--> in your autoexec.cfg.

    Or if you really want to you could type out the whole script into the console every time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    omg...

    Is there anyone whom I can send my config file, who can do it for me? I mean, lol, how in our dear Lords name do I open the cfg file <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Man I get a headache by just looking at that stuff

    this really isn't my kinda schmoo <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    edited April 2003
    Relax. Take a deeeep breath. Breathe in, breathe out.

    A cfg file is nothing more than a text file with console commands in it. All you have to do is open it using notepad. You can probably do this by simply double clicking on a .cfg file and when windows pops up its "what program do you want to use to open this file?" box, click notepad.

    To do that stuff I suggested in the last post, all you have to do is open (or create, if it doesn't exist) a file called autoexec.cfg. Basically, create a new text file and rename it to that. Now copy and paste the aliases into it. Now you're done.
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Align+Apr 19 2003, 09:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Apr 19 2003, 09:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--2of12[B0RG]+Apr 19 2003, 03:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (2of12[B0RG] @ Apr 19 2003, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now jumping is an exploit? God.... will running be next? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you stupid or do you just not read the forums properly? Its been clearly stated that marine hitboxes are bugged, since when they jump(and even more, crouch in mid-air), they become much harder to hit. PLUS, theres the exploit of jumping backwards so you aren't slower like you SHOULD be.
    It will all be fixed in 1.1.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    He isn't stupid. He is merely pointing out that you are a lame scrub. Quit complaining about people that are better than you and get some skill.
  • Amped1Amped1 Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13287Members
    Hmmm an anti relod script. I'm gonna see if I can do that.
  • ThinGThinG Lord of wub and vlaai Join Date: 2003-04-11 Member: 15400Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Ur all sooo off topic...sigh....

    lame ppl
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    OK
    First of all you should be able to switch with the mousewheel midreload
    So I bet your comp is bugged...
    hehe
    And second you can't go around telling people who don't know stuff that you can just create the file autoexec.cfg
    If you don't have show dos extensions on you'll just create a autoexec.cfg.txt
    hehe
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jower+Apr 20 2003, 03:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jower @ Apr 20 2003, 03:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And second you can't go around telling people who don't know stuff that you can just create the file autoexec.cfg
    If you don't have show dos extensions on you'll just create a autoexec.cfg.txt
    hehe<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually there is a solution to that. Even without extensions showing, you can create autoexec.cfg
    You simply put it in quotes when saving it =D

    "autoexec.cfg"
  • JowerJower Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13448Members
    Yes
    But did you tell him that ? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jower+Apr 20 2003, 05:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jower @ Apr 20 2003, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes
    But did you tell him that ? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes I did. Just now. I wasn't the original person who posted about the .cfg files anyhow. I told him as soon as you brought it up =D
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ThinG+Apr 19 2003, 09:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ThinG @ Apr 19 2003, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hmmm, still doesn't solve my prob <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The <b>hud_fastswitch</b> variable only works if you use the number keys to switch weapons. Do you use the number keys to switch weapons? If not, learn to. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Apr 20 2003, 01:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Apr 20 2003, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you really want to use the mousewheel to fastswitch your weapons, you have to use a script. In most other games, nextinv and lastinv work but not in NS (for some reason). You need something like this:

    <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->alias weapon1 "slot1; bind mwheeldown weapon2; unbind mwheelup"
    alias weapon2 "slot2; bind mwheeldown weapon3; bind mwheelup weapon1"
    alias weapon3 "slot3; bind mwheeldown weapon4; unbind mwheelup"
    bind mwheeldown weapon2<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you also use the number keys to switch weapons, you'll want to rebind your number keys from slotx to weaponx.
    <!--c1--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->bind "1" "weapon1"
    bind "2" "weapon2"
    bind "3" "weapon3"
    bind "4" "weapon4"<!--c2--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  • predatory_kangaroopredatory_kangaroo Join Date: 2003-01-12 Member: 12225Members
    Well, i dunno about the auto-reload, but i can always switch b4 my weapon starts reloading.
    I use the arrow keys to move, and i've bound the keypad keys to weapons, chuckle, request med/ammo, etc.
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