Spawn Camping - Yay Or Nay?
NegaBenji
Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12058Members
Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12058Members
Yeah, sometimes you need to run into a hive and defend yourself while the plan comes together, and it's always fun to have a sneaky run through taking out a couple of skulks on your way, but where do you draw the line? What is acceptable and what is just plain lame? I was playing a game last night where 2 people constantly teamed up as marines and headed for the hive. We started in the Waste hive, and they managed to get themselves in there. They then proceeded to blast every skulk that dropped from the hive. And with the whole team in the respawn queue by this point, we didn't have a chance. And this went on until we all skipped to the ready room. And the same thing happened in ns_eclipse. We had the computer core, and at some point these 2 managed to get themselves inside with shotguns. One of them covered the res point area, the other was in the water - and they knew every respawn position. You'd see yourself start to drop to the floor, then there'd be a *bang* and you were gone. The thing is, they weren't lame at all when they were on the alien team - they were actually ok. But whenever they joined marines, they'd just end up 'pwning' the alien team, and they'd keep doing it until everyone quit or a rogue skulk managed to find and stop them. Is it a coincidence that they dropped when they were due to switch to marines, and that an admin had joined the server? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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As for right now? A good tactic if the rest of the marines move in afterword and mop up (aka, killing the hive). If they were there just to rack up "their" kill count, it's lame.
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If it was a game like CTF, where your objective is to capture something, it would be lame... but in NS the goal is to KILL every enemy and to PREVENT them from respawning by taking out the hives or IPs.
Killing an Marine or Alien that just spawned is another form of preventing them from spawning... let's just put it as "preventing the enemy from ACTING" instead of spawning.
My oppinion, both as public and Clan player: YAY!
agreed, but when it's just to rack up kill count, it's a nay
Hmm, I don't think anyone spawncamps a hive to rack up kills, as the marines scores aren't easily visible at all. When I command, I always set a few people aside and have them keep constant pressure on the hive. Sometimes I send most the team, while another few players go around and cap res nodes unnoticed. To do this you need to invest in 2 or possibly 3 IPs, but I wholeheartedly think it is worth freedom of the map.
Some commanders whole mindset is to stay away from the aliens at all time. This contributes much to the marine losses, since you need to keep as many skulks occupied with defending the hive and a few marines to go around and gather resources/secure hives. If this means spawncamping the hive, so be it, he his helping the team and I applaud that.
"Spawn Camping" - not lame, aliens should work together to prevent it.
As for the mines or turrets or OCs, thats completely lame.
Anyhow, I'd suggest you guys quit whining. "Camping" comes in many different forms and this "Spawn Camping" that you all whine about is a legitimate tactic.
This is war, its your life or theirs. No more cowardly complaining about "unfair" tactics, plz.
Just about every person on this board probably ignorantly supports the war in Iraq, but you complain about "unfair" tactics in NS? Thats so ridiculous.
Just like the US, those marines were playing to win. Nobody is playing "fair."
Btw, aliens do have a way to spawn more than one at a time: Multiple hives.
It's not like the aliens give you half a second to spawn when they're obliterating your base. I'll return the favor when I'm in their hive.
If it was a game like CTF, where your objective is to capture something, it would be lame... but in NS the goal is to KILL every enemy and to PREVENT them from respawning by taking out the hives or IPs.
Killing an Marine or Alien that just spawned is another form of preventing them from spawning... let's just put it as "preventing the enemy from ACTING" instead of spawning.
My oppinion, both as public and Clan player: YAY! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats true man. I dont mind some spawn camping if they are preparing to take down a hive but what these two were doing isnt at all right. I dont think it is acceptable to just sit there and wait for a skulk to spawn in and shoot it before it even hits the ground. I give this a big NAY.
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It's not like the aliens give you half a second to spawn when they're obliterating your base. I'll return the favor when I'm in their hive.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True as well. But as was stated they werent 'Obliterating' the hive, they were killing anything that popped in before they had a chance. If you are going to do this please kill the hive while you are waiting for the next alien to spawn in.
Yay.
its part of the game
Me say: yAy
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Yay.
it's pretty hard to kill a hive with only 2 people. unless it's a hive where all the spawns are out in the open in one area ie: eclipse command, generator
Computer Core spawns are spread out pretty well, you need atleast 2 or some skulks will get away.
Perhaps they were yelling for the rest of the team to get to the hive, so that they could kill it?
Wide open space like viaduct, or long corridor directly facing the hive and spawn point is kinda screwed the aliens a bit.
It's Yay from me I guess.
I've been the victim of spawn camping many times, but like others said, its part of the game.
So Yay!
In any other HL mod I would say nay, but in NS the goal is to control/destroy the alien spawn points.
To ignore attacking the alien hive is to allow the aliens free reign on the map to attack your res points and possibly your base. Its fairly essential for the marines to take the offensive from the start and keep the aliens preoccupied with defense.