Why don't people save the power nodes for blackout?
Lingos
Join Date: 2012-12-31 Member: 176896Members
Join Date: 2012-12-31 Member: 176896Members
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although the same could be said for pubs, we've all seen the lack of coordination, teamwork and tactics (no, not the team) and often the power does get nibbled on. Getting your team to not chew it to destruction is quite a challenge and players assume they should be killing the nodes. I've personally left a power on a few bites and utilized the darkness when marines come in to great effect, but it does come with downsides;
Someone needs to be there to watch for marines, which is fine if you know they're coming, but it's often not the case.
It's only really useful in certain locations (TP's) when big pushes are occuring, so it's really situational.
If no-one is monitoring the area, marines can sneak in and build up a pg and/or weld up the power
The sound muffles the sound of incoming marines (until it stops after 20-30 seconds)
Ultimately, it's something i'd like to see more of, but if you've got a team that actually are utilizing this tactic, they're working together well enough that they should be focusing on other objectives.
Sure it is kind of campy but i always manage to move on to the next room, harass fallback and wait for the marines to enter the room, turn off the lights and have a far greater chance of winning a fight.
All it takes is one alien to mess it up basically. I do a lot of Commanding and I can tell you that (in pubs) at least 50% of players will frequently ignore you or not understand you (language barrier). Telling them not to attack the object with flashing lights and sound emitting seems crazy to them...and by the time you've explained why, it's too late.
to Answer the topic question;
"Why don't people save the power nodes for blackouts?"
* Unintuitive - it practically screams "bite me" when it's nearly destroyed
* Lack of player knowledge - Do they know the emergency lighting is on a cooldown? Do they know how useful it may be?
* Very Situational - only particularly beneficial during big pushes
* Potentially Unnecessary - A good team won't be wasting time chewing power nodes
* It only takes one - one lifeform (or whip/hydra/babbler) takes out the power and the opportunity is gone
Does blackout mean anything if people pump up the gamma?
Not to mention that a power node in an infested room will slowly get chipped away - irrespective of what your cunning plan was initially.
I was going to mention this, but I don't think infestation will actually destroy the power, just chip away it's armour, not an issue when you're considering the final bite or 2
^ This. It's pretty situational when to take out power nodes. For base rushes it can be useful after hitting the obs, otherwise it really depends. I usually take them out in the tech point rooms when setting up a new hive or an existing one.
It´s also better to chomp on the power because when they have to repair it, they also have to face a wall(or at least half of it, depending on your positioning skills)
The question is whether the longer time it takes for them to rebuild power justified for the constant flow of res from the RT during that time.I personally just chomp on RTs myself since I´ve heard statements you have to restrict their res flow and harass them.I really don´t know how much impact I´m actually doing.For me, it seems they can literally just rebuild it in seconds.
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you get those marine players who are equally useless though, like the ones who stick in a 2-3 strong noob squad and get fended off by 1 gorge for the entire game.
This takes a level of foresight most people just aren't capable of.
We need more imagination and humour, instead of these killdroids :P
it's even worse because it's actually 30 points (+15 on screen, +30 on scoreboard!)
Gotta remember that
-Rooms I'd consider of tactical value-
Tech point
Adjacent to existing hive
Double res
Anywhere they have already built a PG
-rooms I'd NOT consider of tactical value-
Random res point
Powernodes within "rine territory"
In general restricting the opponents res is the most influential part one can have in a game... Powernodes are free! Don't bite power before resnodes!
When attacking the marine base set goals that are achievable and have a purpose.
Situation #1. Rine main base (ip/pg/obs...)
Potential goals: force beacon, cause havok, end game...
When you go attacking the rine base ask yourself some questions.
Do we have enough people to kill the power before a becon gets off?
If we can get the power off do we have enough to keep it off?
Is there a more valuable target?
Do they have densely packed structures?
Many times power goes down and you hear someone yell "powers out in there main kill them'" but no one is in position to respond and 2 gorges died on the power for no real reward. Now imagine if those gorges had simply spammed bile all over maybe killed 2 ip 1 AA and an arms lab... That's 100+ res! Now say they get the power down and 2 decent fades are near by... Different story cause it may be GG
My point is the powernode are powerful BUT only if it coincides with your goal and is maintainable....
Turtle situation (or any time rine are on 1 chair) i say this in every thread that it can remotely apply.., power does not end games! A dead CC end games! Attacking the CC in a turtle is the only thing worth dieing for... If your entire team dies killing power you all died for a free structure. If your entire team dies killing the CC, you win!
The CC is also a BIG target physically! This means you don't have your entire team crammed on a powernode where every GL hits all of you and no bullet misses at least one of you.
It also works as a big shield run around it while attacking there entire team can't focuse fire...
Ever try to get 3+onos on a powernode? There isn't room, but 12 onos can all hit the chair together...
Remember killing the power only wins games if the aliens who don't die while killing the power can kill all the marines that are in that room.
Reason, nubs caring only about points.
Building power to 90% doesn't really work. Sure it's fun, but 90% of the times (hat statistic) someone just finishes the 10% and goes "porblem, commando?".
Not sure if Sarcasm.
You can kill the power with parasite and yeah sure, they can track with their flash light, but first they need to find you in the darkness.
Yeah I've never thought about finishing it off with a parasite.
Still. A tardy Skulk is just gonna come into the room where your ambush is and finish off the power and "porblem, sulk?" in your bullet riddled face.