NS2HD Beta Tournament - Countdown

HughHugh CameramanSan Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
edited November 2011 in NS2 General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Replacement Thread</div><b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Please direct all communication regarding the tournament to NS2HD@live.com.au - I can't answer forum PM reliably/quickly<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>

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<b>Current Announcements</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

- The tournament has been indefinitly postponed. See NS2HD[314] for more information.

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<b>Reason for Postponement</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

The tournament was intended to be played on build 188/9. UWE has had to change their build schedule slightly. While I would prefer to simply push the tournament back two or so weeks, there is a special, super secret NS2HD event happening on December 4 which means I can't.

Build 187 is not representative of where NS2 is right now, or the effort UWE has put in to it recently. I can't in good conscience put up 40 or so Build 187 tournament games that could become a reference point for people who have never seen NS2.


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<b>Important Links - For Legacy Reference</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

<b><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vJJbwHX4M8kBcRoYOhZl5TcpKIatTNsNkUGw9Lo7DmE/edit?hl=en_GB" target="_blank">Tournament Rules</a></b> - <!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Note you can now 'comment' on this document to suggest changes. Or just post them in this thread!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

<b><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9Sjp-fvCT4dHB5Sm9ORGJvbkJoVXRHNW0yTmwxa1E&hl=en_GB#gid=2" target="_blank">NS2HD Beta Tournament Draft Draw</a></b> - <!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Please post your feedback on this draw, note the contingency at the bottom.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

<b><a href="https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ns2hd%40live.com.au" target="_blank">NS2HD Beta Tournament Draft Timetable</a></b> - <!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Timezones may be whacked out with this link. <b>Be very sure you are viewing the calendar in your timezone if you think your timeslot looks wierd!</b> The raw timetable is posted below. Please let me know at NS2HD@live.com.au if you cannot play at your allotted time.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

<b><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj8-JUtFLeHGdHJST1N2NHRBUjNndW5BMERUbDIyVkE&hl=en_US#gid=2" target="_blank">Draft Timetable in Spreadsheet Form</a></b> - <!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Use this if you are having trouble getting the Google Calendar to play ball with timezones and what not.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

<b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Please direct all communication regarding the tournament to NS2HD@live.com.au - I can't answer forum PM reliably/quickly<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>
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  • aeroripperaeroripper Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42471NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    NS2HD, I added your name to the thread title so its easier to notice and closed the old thread. Let me know if you prefer the title without it.
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  • SkymanderXSkymanderX Green Marine - The Few, The Proud, The Green. Join Date: 2011-07-29 Member: 113006Members
    Perhaps you should add in the estimated dates for the different rounds?
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  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Thanks aeroripper that's great!

    Good point SkymanderX will do.
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  • Ender_74Ender_74 Join Date: 2011-01-28 Member: 79329Members
    I am sorry but the title of this topic is very misleading, <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=NS2HD+Tournament++-+Round+1&day=28&month=10&year=2011&hour=20&min=00&sec=00&p0=57" target="_blank">There, I fixed it</a>

    (Start time arbitrarily decided to be the 28/10/2011 at 8pm, just because I needed to set one, feel free to change it to a time at which you'll be sure to have finished your dinner if needed Hugh ^^)

    Now we can really feel the pressure/excitement increase.
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  • vizioNzvizioNz InversionNS2.com Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24595Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    Yay! I am looking forward to Round 1 against Anagram!
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  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Members, Squad Five Blue
    edited October 2011
    NS2HD how could you possibly start the tournament while I am on a weekend holiday to Germany! Clearly you should re-arrange the whole thing so that it fits into my schedule! ;-)

    Now I am stuck relying on my clan mates to not screw up the first round...! *looks at Johs and dugi suspiciously*

    On a more serious note it is exciting to see we are getting closer to the tournament, I really cannot wait to play in and watch the matches!
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2011
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The use of both client side and server side mods (to game Lua code or otherwise) is expressly forbidden in tournament matches. Any team found to be using any mod will be immediately disqualified from this Tournament.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Means that really nothing? Also for Overrmind (to pause the game if a player crashes) and the menumod?
    also the Servers should run the anti "r_mode unlit" script IMO.

    And btw 3min break between rounds? It should be depending on the game lenght. A 15min game is no problem but a 45min round and only 3min break is way tooo short (drinking, toilet/cigarette). Especially when comentating alot ^^.

    Should be something like 0-30min round time 5min break. 31-60min roundtime 10min (or when all are rdy).
    After a total of 90min playtime the next, if there is another match, should be 15min.
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Are the rosters ever going to be public? I hope so.
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  • vizioNzvizioNz InversionNS2.com Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24595Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    edited October 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1878155:date=Oct 5 2011, 12:03 PM:name=Quovatis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quovatis @ Oct 5 2011, 12:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878155"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are the rosters ever going to be public? I hope so.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Rosters are definitely going to have to be published sooner than later. CAL used a system of locking rosters days before Matches to make sure last minute moves did not happen. I hope Hugh implements the same process for the tournament to eliminate last minute recruiting/team switching/substitution of none members.

    I would like to see the rosters published to see who is playing for who. The 6v6 cup thread is the only place I can track who's playing for what team (and it's outdated).
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  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    I hadn't thought about rosters (I'm new to all this!). At this stage, with teams still dropping in and out, recruiting and not, I won't ask teams to lock in yet. I will make a first pass at locking in players ~7 days out, and then another ~2 days out.

    I know I promised first round times today, but unfortunately Frelge has dropped out. The first clan (along with HBZ!) I ever cast and one of my favorites to watch, you will be missed guys! I will now have to rejig the draw. Still hoping to punch out times today.
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  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    edited October 2011
    Can you even enforce rosters anyway? Is there a way to see steam ids in game? Anyone could just rename themselves and there'd be no way to tell.
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  • ShiloriusShilorius Join Date: 2011-01-14 Member: 77445Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Speaking of rules..
    what is about the "r_mode" exploit?
    I know on the Ziegenfarm is an anti-r_mode-exploit-script installed...
    Maybe we should make it mandatory for tournament servers.

    (To be honest, I didn't read the old thread.. maybe somebody mentioned it before.)
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  • meb3meb3 Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106078Members
    i can't wait to cheat in this
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  • Boxer`DBoxer`D Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112532Members
    edited October 2011
    It's a beta tournament and it's hard enough for most clans to lock in a roster(clearly shown as teams dropping out).
    I understand locking a roster for the draw itself so we can get the tournament moving along, but I don't think there should be a strict roster lock for the upcoming matches, in many cases ringers may have to be used at one point or another if teammates can't make it on.
    This tournament is for fun and showcasing, I think penalizing people with roster locks will only cause more hiccups(at least in the case of my team this will more than likely be true).
    Ringers being used for more then one team is another story and if that's why people are concerned about locking rosters that's more then fair, should be a rule preventing a ringer to float around, but otherwise I feel a full lock would be slightly detrimental.
    Players from other teams(or teams that have already lost) should not be able to ring as well, I see where this gets a little more complex ^^.
    Maybe if the two teams and ns2hd talk and agree regarding ringers prior to a match, should the situation arise.

    ~.~
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    edited October 2011
    PD vs UWE....... WERE DOOOOOOOMED T_T
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  • Cyberwarrior00785Cyberwarrior00785 Join Date: 2010-02-20 Member: 70651Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1878187:date=Oct 5 2011, 01:35 PM:name=meb3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (meb3 @ Oct 5 2011, 01:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878187"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i can't wait to cheat in this<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    dude even if thats a joke its not cool...
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1878185:date=Oct 5 2011, 02:25 PM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ Oct 5 2011, 02:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878185"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can you even enforce rosters anyway? Is there a way to see steam ids in game? Anyone could just rename themselves and there'd be no way to tell.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You can see steam IDs with the overmind mod, so yes, you can tell.
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  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    You can also exchange steam accounts... :D
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  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1878201:date=Oct 5 2011, 11:18 PM:name=Quovatis)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quovatis @ Oct 5 2011, 11:18 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878201"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You can see steam IDs with the overmind mod, so yes, you can tell.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Cool. Although according to the rules the use of any server mods is forbidden. :S
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  • SkymanderXSkymanderX Green Marine - The Few, The Proud, The Green. Join Date: 2011-07-29 Member: 113006Members
    lol should we create a separate thread for discussing cheating? plus thanks ns2hd for putting the date up.
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  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    I will amend the rules to allow govermind and r_mode unlit, I've been meaning to do that.

    In the meantime, here is the <!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b><a href="https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ns2hd%40live.com.au" target="_blank"> Draft Tournament Timetable</a></b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--> for round 1!

    <b><!--coloro:#FF8C00--><span style="color:#FF8C00"><!--/coloro-->(You will need to scroll to the week of October 24 - 30 and click on the individual matches to get the Google Calendar to convert into your time zone.)<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>

    As you can imagine, it is very complicated matching up teams across three timezones. Here is the timetable in raw form:

    Match Team 1 Team 2 UTC UTC -5 UTC +10
    1_________TOG______Mr.______28/10/2011 10:00:00 28/10/2011 05:00:00 28/10/2011 20:00:00
    2_________UWE_____Cyd'______28/10/2011 20:30:00 28/10/2011 15:30:00 29/10/2011 09:30:00
    3__________RG___Team #156__29/10/2011 01:30:00 28/10/2011 20:30:00 29/10/2011 11:30:00
    4_______Anagram__Inversion___29/10/2011 03:30:00 28/10/2011 22:30:00 29/10/2011 13:30:00
    5________-[420]-____Darkside__30/10/2011 00:00:00 29/10/2011 19:00:00 30/10/2011 10:00:00
    6__________PD_______LNH_____30/10/2011 02:30:00 29/10/2011 21:30:00 30/10/2011 12:30:00
    7_________HBZ_____Pub.EU____28/10/2011 21:30:00 28/10/2011 16:30:00 29/10/2011 07:30:00
    8_________Duplex___YO Clan___28/10/2011 19:30:00 28/10/2011 14:30:00 29/10/2011 05:30:00

    Please review your match times and confirm you can play at that time. I understand in some cases the times aren't perfect, but we all have to compromise to make sure everyone gets to play at at least a reasonable hour!

    If your team absolutely cannot play at a given time, let me know and I will try to rejig. Reasons like '3/6 members are at work at that time' are preferable over 'I'd rather be at the pub on Friday night.' There's nothing wrong with the latter, but the pub will always be there. This tournament is a one off!
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  • Boxer`DBoxer`D Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112532Members
    edited October 2011
    420-papa please message me when you get a chance ^^
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  • ShiloriusShilorius Join Date: 2011-01-14 Member: 77445Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    for some strange reason, the google calender doesn't work for me, but I found this alternative Website to convert the UTC time into your local Time
    <a href="http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx</a>
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  • HybridclawHybridclaw Join Date: 2003-11-03 Member: 22271Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1878086:date=Oct 4 2011, 08:11 PM:name=NS2HD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NS2HD @ Oct 4 2011, 08:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878086"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--coloro:#FF8C00--><span style="color:#FF8C00"><!--/coloro-->____________________________________
    <b>Prize Pool</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->


    <!--coloro:#00FF00--><span style="color:#00FF00"><!--/coloro--><!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>US$150 received + US$550 offered = ~US$700</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

    <!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Prize money offered:
    NS2HD: AUD 50
    McGlaspie: USD 50
    Boxer 'D: CAD 50
    Xerond: [Unspecified]
    PersianImm0rtal: USD 5
    HBZ: USD 50
    Bluethunder2k: AUD 40
    #156.Alpha: USD 50
    WhiteWingDevil: AUD 100
    <!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>Andrew S: One waffle maker.</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
    Lewin: AUD 20
    Tempest487: AUD 25
    SubShadow: EUR 5
    Frelge: EUR 50
    Anonymous contribution: EUR 50
    InversionNS: USD 120<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Someone donated a waffle maker!
    Mmm... Waffles...
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  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    A (very unfinished) beta version of the new Veil will be available in time for the tournament.
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  • HackepeterHackepeter Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17107Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1878222:date=Oct 6 2011, 01:40 AM:name=Shilorius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shilorius @ Oct 6 2011, 01:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878222"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->for some strange reason, the google calender doesn't work for me, but I found this alternative Website to convert the UTC time into your local Time
    <a href="http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Just import the calender into your google account with the button in the right bottom corner :) once the calendar is imported the times are shown in your timezone.

    In my opinion the times are very good :)
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  • BJHBnade_spammerBJHBnade_spammer Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42431Members
    ns2hd you need to reorder that list in the order that there times are you have several out of order either that or you have the times wrong on some of them.
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  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Do you mean out of order in the raw list or in the calendar BJH? The raw list is in no particular order, but the times should match the calendar. I may have buggered it, as my brain ready to explode with timezones.

    To all you valiant team leaders out there, please let me know if you need help with recruitment. I know that given the extreme 186 build time, some players are starting to flake. If you do drop below 6, don't despair, we can work together to draw in keen players :).
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  • BJHBnade_spammerBJHBnade_spammer Join Date: 2005-02-25 Member: 42431Members
    edited October 2011
    the list you posted here not the calendar
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  • WhiteWingWhiteWing Join Date: 2011-05-28 Member: 101387Members
    Team Mr. will be ready for the tournament.
    We may not have more than 2 of our original members.
    Some of our players may not have bought the game at the time of posting.
    But we'll be there!

    By the way, if any of the original Mr. crew read this, your slots are still here and reserved for you, just contact me and you're in.
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