<!--quoteo(post=1868799:date=Aug 13 2011, 01:35 PM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Aug 13 2011, 01:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868799"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Bul.... If 3 Marines a 3 Turrets can't kill a Fade the rines must have bad FPS or a bad Aim. I played 7 rounds and 6 of it as Marine and we won 6 times. As I said in a other thread use the GL to kill fleeing Fades! It is really easy to kill Fades now. And they HP will be reduced to 200hp in the next build.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No Bull######, its true !!!
And yes you can kill a fade if he is fleeing, with the GL but you must still alive
and I can say pretty confidently that these events are not random, though they are sporadic. They usually happen at the beginning of a round, or at the end of a round, or when I'm going into a new area, or when a lot of things are happening at once. They don't happen when I'm in the ready room.
What happens is that all of a sudden, all serverside communcation goes dead. I don't notice it at first, but once I walk around and see people running in place, I know that something is wrong.
If it was just lost packets or a dying server, I'd rubberband once I actually get a message telling me that the server isn't placing me at the same position as my client is. That's not what happens. I can move around, fire, reload, and run out of ammo or energy as long as I don't have to send any information to the server. My rifle in particular still makes bullet ricochet sounds when it hits something, but doesn't actually trigger rifle fire sounds for some reason. I can walk around the map and see that structures that weren't in my range of view when I lost connection simply disappeared.
This disconnect situation does not kick me out of the server. I have to manually disconnect because it seems the game fundamentally doesn't recognize that I'm no longer getting server updates, and waiting it out never works. Nobody else on the server notices anything funny at the time I get this error, which leads me to believe that it may be happening to others without anybody recognizing it.
I'd like to know if anybody else has had this problem - isolated server connection problems that never resolve themselves. It makes playing some popular servers pretty unbearable as I have to disconnect every 5 minutes or so and lose all my res and usually my place on the team, and it's devastating if I'm commander.
<!--quoteo(post=1868816:date=Aug 13 2011, 11:36 PM:name=kaffaljidhma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kaffaljidhma @ Aug 13 2011, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868816"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->stuff<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> It happens not that often havent seen in new builds (last three) probably because I havent played that much.
It doesnt get fixed yea I just disc and find next server.
<!--quoteo(post=1868783:date=Aug 13 2011, 10:51 AM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Aug 13 2011, 10:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868783"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yes, we are planning on having a shader effect on the cloaked aliens, where it applies their surroundings to the surface of their model. So, they won't be completely invisible, but they will blend in really well and be hard to spot.
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the problem on shadered cloak is so as soon as you have a tiny hint where one cloaked alien COULD be, you just fire 1 test-bullet and the entire cloak is gone. gg
Yeah, though it's not as pretty, a 99% alpha is more functional (granted I've heard stories of people jacking up their gamma levels to see alpha cloaked aliens in NS1, never tried myself), it's going to be damned hard to make a shader effect like that that wont make cloak mostly useless. Good luck to you guys in trying though, it'll be beautiful if it works out.
I'd like to see a shader effect from an alien view though at least to quickly identify another ally as cloaked, rather than the current effect. You know, if the shader cloak doesn't work out.
Meh you guys are exaggerating, I can surprise most people without camo already. It's not that you are on your toes all the time... Just check out what it looks like before coming up with random assumptions you can't back up. =p
<!--quoteo(post=1868953:date=Aug 14 2011, 10:58 PM:name=Wilson)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wilson @ Aug 14 2011, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868953"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Go download hidden:source mod and then tell me that a shader effect can't be used for cloak.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My thought exactly. A good hidden player can be one of the most frustrating opponents on the entire internet.
I think I'm still getting signals from the server. I was posting about this issue when it happened right when I tried to join the marine team (what it does is act like the team is full and not let me join). Like 15 minutes later, I suddenly go into noclip spectator mode and get the "you're dead or you just joined" music. I look in the console to see what's going on and I get this:
I can't scroll up cause it's actually generating about 3 lines a second. Nothing happened 5 minutes after that and I disconnected via console. I think the server finally told me that I joined a team, and then immediately bugged out again. I joined back later and nobody noticed anything going wrong for the past 20 minutes, and nobody noticed me join the team, if I did so at all.
<!--quoteo(post=1869095:date=Aug 15 2011, 10:32 AM:name=Twiggeh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Twiggeh @ Aug 15 2011, 10:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869095"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->My thought exactly. A good hidden player can be one of the most frustrating opponents on the entire internet.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am plenty frustrated already by InvinciFades. Right now, it's 2Hive=Win
I'm getting the total system freeze on exit as well. I can play without issue for hours but as soon as I exit via console or main menu my pc will lock up and not budge until I reboot. I can alt tab in and out fine however (no freeze there), but when I end task it locks up. 2500k 4.8 gtx480 sli 8gb ddr3
<!--quoteo(post=1870306:date=Aug 21 2011, 06:00 AM:name=vrex)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vrex @ Aug 21 2011, 06:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1870306"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm getting the total system freeze on exit as well. I can play without issue for hours but as soon as I exit via console or main menu my pc will lock up and not budge until I reboot. I can alt tab in and out fine however (no freeze there), but when I end task it locks up. 2500k 4.8 gtx480 sli 8gb ddr3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would get 12gb DDR3 ram or run the Cpu at 1 Core and set the FSB to 103 and the multiplier at 53..... Nice we know about your hardware.... but we can't help ya with those infos. Are you using WIN 98 or NT 4.0? Any Dll injectors running in the background?
Just kidding. Try to run only one GPU, think you can do it by Nvidia Controlcenter. Maybe it solves the problem.
<!--quoteo(post=1869497:date=Aug 17 2011, 02:55 AM:name=kaffaljidhma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kaffaljidhma @ Aug 17 2011, 02:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869497"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So, here's the continuation of my interminable connection problems:
Like I said before, it looks like the game freezes for everyone but me, but in actuality I'm not getting any messages from the server:
Here's me standing on an IP looking at a bile bomb I shot at it ... from the other side of the room:
Here's me standing on a marine's head - I'm not capturing it but he's running in place:
I can still cloak by standing still, and switch weapons, and fire, as well as move about:
I think I'm still getting signals from the server. I was posting about this issue when it happened right when I tried to join the marine team (what it does is act like the team is full and not let me join). Like 15 minutes later, I suddenly go into noclip spectator mode and get the "you're dead or you just joined" music. I look in the console to see what's going on and I get this:
I can't scroll up cause it's actually generating about 3 lines a second. Nothing happened 5 minutes after that and I disconnected via console. I think the server finally told me that I joined a team, and then immediately bugged out again. I joined back later and nobody noticed anything going wrong for the past 20 minutes, and nobody noticed me join the team, if I did so at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Looks like a corrupted File or a too well working firewall. Open the Ports on you Modem and Firewall for NS2 if that does not help, uninstall the game. If that doesn't help somebody else will have a solution.
<!--quoteo(post=1870309:date=Aug 21 2011, 01:37 AM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Aug 21 2011, 01:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1870309"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would get 12gb DDR3 ram or run the Cpu at 1 Core and set the FSB to 103 and the multiplier at 53..... Nice we know about your hardware.... but we can't help ya with those infos. Are you using WIN 98 or NT 4.0? Any Dll injectors running in the background?
Just kidding. Try to run only one GPU, think you can do it by Nvidia Controlcenter. Maybe it solves the problem.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm on windows 7. I think NS2 doesn't use sli at the moment anyway... although I do remember that I forced sli onto to it so maybe that's why. I'll give it a go.
<!--quoteo(post=1870310:date=Aug 21 2011, 07:42 AM:name=vrex)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vrex @ Aug 21 2011, 07:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1870310"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm on windows 7. I think NS2 doesn't use sli at the moment anyway... although I do remember that I forced sli onto to it so maybe that's why. I'll give it a go.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It doesnt use sli, tried it, doesnt do anything, runs exactly the same on 1 or 2 gpus.
<!--quoteo(post=1870314:date=Aug 21 2011, 07:22 AM:name=Dragon-Guard)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dragon-Guard @ Aug 21 2011, 07:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1870314"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It doesnt use sli, tried it, doesnt do anything, runs exactly the same on 1 or 2 gpus.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It was not about FPS it was about a crasching game.
This is quite off topic, but I would like to say something regarding NS1.... Thank you Cory, thank you Max, and thank you Charlie. Anyone else to say thanks to?
You guys have created an awesome game. I remember when CS was the only playable HL mod, later I played Firearms and of course DOD was pretty good too. However, NS beat them all by far.
Today there are plenty of really good games out there, but NS is still unreached if you ask me. For all the years I have played that game for free, I was more than willing to pay for NS2. I don't at all regret buying early (I did at the first 2 or 3 builds though)
<!--quoteo(post=1870309:date=Aug 21 2011, 05:37 AM:name=Floodinator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Floodinator @ Aug 21 2011, 05:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1870309"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would get 12gb DDR3 ram or run the Cpu at 1 Core and set the FSB to 103 and the multiplier at 53..... Nice we know about your hardware.... but we can't help ya with those infos. Are you using WIN 98 or NT 4.0? Any Dll injectors running in the background?
Just kidding. Try to run only one GPU, think you can do it by Nvidia Controlcenter. Maybe it solves the problem.
Looks like a corrupted File or a too well working firewall. Open the Ports on you Modem and Firewall for NS2 if that does not help, uninstall the game. If that doesn't help somebody else will have a solution.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice megapost I hope the pics don't include in quoting
Those black armor's caught my attention they look almost as cool as space ninjas but with no ninjas instead its space marines in black suits. Awesome.
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No Bull######, its true !!!
And yes you can kill a fade if he is fleeing, with the GL but you must still alive
<a href="http://imgur.com/1PZI2" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/1PZI2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
and I can say pretty confidently that these events are not random, though they are sporadic. They usually happen at the beginning of a round, or at the end of a round, or when I'm going into a new area, or when a lot of things are happening at once. They don't happen when I'm in the ready room.
What happens is that all of a sudden, all serverside communcation goes dead. I don't notice it at first, but once I walk around and see people running in place, I know that something is wrong.
If it was just lost packets or a dying server, I'd rubberband once I actually get a message telling me that the server isn't placing me at the same position as my client is. That's not what happens. I can move around, fire, reload, and run out of ammo or energy as long as I don't have to send any information to the server. My rifle in particular still makes bullet ricochet sounds when it hits something, but doesn't actually trigger rifle fire sounds for some reason. I can walk around the map and see that structures that weren't in my range of view when I lost connection simply disappeared.
This disconnect situation does not kick me out of the server. I have to manually disconnect because it seems the game fundamentally doesn't recognize that I'm no longer getting server updates, and waiting it out never works. Nobody else on the server notices anything funny at the time I get this error, which leads me to believe that it may be happening to others without anybody recognizing it.
I'd like to know if anybody else has had this problem - isolated server connection problems that never resolve themselves. It makes playing some popular servers pretty unbearable as I have to disconnect every 5 minutes or so and lose all my res and usually my place on the team, and it's devastating if I'm commander.
It happens not that often havent seen in new builds (last three) probably because I havent played that much.
It doesnt get fixed yea I just disc and find next server.
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the problem on shadered cloak is so as soon as you have a tiny hint where one cloaked alien COULD be, you just fire 1 test-bullet and the entire cloak is gone. gg
I'd like to see a shader effect from an alien view though at least to quickly identify another ally as cloaked, rather than the current effect. You know, if the shader cloak doesn't work out.
Just check out what it looks like before coming up with random assumptions you can't back up. =p
My thought exactly.
A good hidden player can be one of the most frustrating opponents on the entire internet.
The hidden is standing still in the middle of that room. I included a few with wireframe on so you can see.
Like I said before, it looks like the game freezes for everyone but me, but in actuality I'm not getting any messages from the server:
Here's me standing on an IP looking at a bile bomb I shot at it ... from the other side of the room:
<a href="http://imgur.com/EFdXH" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/EFdXH.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
Here's me standing on a marine's head - I'm not capturing it but he's running in place:
<a href="http://imgur.com/lRqSJ" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/lRqSJ.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
I can still cloak by standing still, and switch weapons, and fire, as well as move about:
<a href="http://imgur.com/EIpUL" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/EIpUL.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
I think I'm still getting signals from the server. I was posting about this issue when it happened right when I tried to join the marine team (what it does is act like the team is full and not let me join). Like 15 minutes later, I suddenly go into noclip spectator mode and get the "you're dead or you just joined" music. I look in the console to see what's going on and I get this:
<a href="http://imgur.com/HGNO1" target="_blank"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/HGNO1.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></a>
I can't scroll up cause it's actually generating about 3 lines a second. Nothing happened 5 minutes after that and I disconnected via console. I think the server finally told me that I joined a team, and then immediately bugged out again. I joined back later and nobody noticed anything going wrong for the past 20 minutes, and nobody noticed me join the team, if I did so at all.
A good hidden player can be one of the most frustrating opponents on the entire internet.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am plenty frustrated already by InvinciFades. Right now, it's 2Hive=Win
2500k 4.8
gtx480 sli
8gb ddr3
2500k 4.8
gtx480 sli
8gb ddr3<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would get 12gb DDR3 ram or run the Cpu at 1 Core and set the FSB to 103 and the multiplier at 53.....
Nice we know about your hardware.... but we can't help ya with those infos. Are you using WIN 98 or NT 4.0? Any Dll injectors running in the background?
Just kidding. Try to run only one GPU, think you can do it by Nvidia Controlcenter. Maybe it solves the problem.
<!--quoteo(post=1869497:date=Aug 17 2011, 02:55 AM:name=kaffaljidhma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kaffaljidhma @ Aug 17 2011, 02:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869497"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So, here's the continuation of my interminable connection problems:
Like I said before, it looks like the game freezes for everyone but me, but in actuality I'm not getting any messages from the server:
Here's me standing on an IP looking at a bile bomb I shot at it ... from the other side of the room:
Here's me standing on a marine's head - I'm not capturing it but he's running in place:
I can still cloak by standing still, and switch weapons, and fire, as well as move about:
I think I'm still getting signals from the server. I was posting about this issue when it happened right when I tried to join the marine team (what it does is act like the team is full and not let me join). Like 15 minutes later, I suddenly go into noclip spectator mode and get the "you're dead or you just joined" music. I look in the console to see what's going on and I get this:
I can't scroll up cause it's actually generating about 3 lines a second. Nothing happened 5 minutes after that and I disconnected via console. I think the server finally told me that I joined a team, and then immediately bugged out again. I joined back later and nobody noticed anything going wrong for the past 20 minutes, and nobody noticed me join the team, if I did so at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Looks like a corrupted File or a too well working firewall.
Open the Ports on you Modem and Firewall for NS2 if that does not help, uninstall the game.
If that doesn't help somebody else will have a solution.
Nice we know about your hardware.... but we can't help ya with those infos. Are you using WIN 98 or NT 4.0? Any Dll injectors running in the background?
Just kidding. Try to run only one GPU, think you can do it by Nvidia Controlcenter. Maybe it solves the problem.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm on windows 7. I think NS2 doesn't use sli at the moment anyway... although I do remember that I forced sli onto to it so maybe that's why. I'll give it a go.
Sorry
It doesnt use sli, tried it, doesnt do anything, runs exactly the same on 1 or 2 gpus.
It was not about FPS it was about a crasching game.
@Dragon Guard
Did it work?
You guys have created an awesome game. I remember when CS was the only playable HL mod, later I played Firearms and of course DOD was pretty good too. However, NS beat them all by far.
Today there are plenty of really good games out there, but NS is still unreached if you ask me. For all the years I have played that game for free, I was more than willing to pay for NS2. I don't at all regret buying early (I did at the first 2 or 3 builds though)
Keep it up!
Nice we know about your hardware.... but we can't help ya with those infos. Are you using WIN 98 or NT 4.0? Any Dll injectors running in the background?
Just kidding. Try to run only one GPU, think you can do it by Nvidia Controlcenter. Maybe it solves the problem.
Looks like a corrupted File or a too well working firewall.
Open the Ports on you Modem and Firewall for NS2 if that does not help, uninstall the game.
If that doesn't help somebody else will have a solution.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice megapost I hope the pics don't include in quoting
Those black armor's caught my attention they look almost as cool as space ninjas but with no ninjas instead its space marines in black suits. Awesome.