Count me in! Just need an EU team. (Finnish player here) Would be nice to have some mates from old NS1 clans! :) Also 6v6 sounds about right. We can have a tournament with mixed teams or did you guys have something more official in mind? Like proper clans and stuff?
ScardyBobScardyBobJoin Date: 2009-11-25Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
<!--quoteo(post=1847992:date=May 22 2011, 11:36 PM:name=bigpoppa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bigpoppa @ May 22 2011, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1847992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think we might be the only clan ATM so we could deal with this in two ways:
1) Get 10 players and just mix us all up
2) #156 vs. a pug team
To be honest as a clan we haven't done any practiced games/developed strategies. We're familiar with each other though. I'd be more than happy to mix it up, but I don't think any of us are so OP that it would be a domination.
I'll say though that I really have no preference towards what goes on--just want to get some good NS2 play in.
Here are some rules that I think would work out well:
Best 2 out of 3 games, randomized who is marines/aliens first and then alternating with another random draw for game 3 if it comes to a 1-1 series.
I don't see much sense in having a hydra/turret cap just because there is no real efficient way (to my knowledge) of keeping track of this sort of information that would be simple for the aliens and not detract from their ability to focus their attention on the game.
No intentional exploits of in-game bugs.
I can't really think of any other rules that would need to be addressed right now but it is quite late. I'm not in favor of rules that change gameplay too drastically (no bunnyhopping, etc) but are complained about from time to time.
If there's a place where good scrim guidelines could be established it seems like this would be it; so I'd be interested to hear your input Bob.
Sam<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since, 1. There aren't many active clans in NS2 2. There isn't enough players for regional tournaments 3. Its hard to organize a consistent time/place for matches that include a lot of pubbers
How about we tweak the tournament a bit to make it something like this: 1. Players can join tournament servers whenever they are free from 5pm-3am GMT on Friday/Saturday. 2. Once the server fills up to the appropriate number of players (10, for example), the teams are randomized and a tournament match pair begins. 3. Two consecutive matches are played with the same players play on each side once. 4. After the two matches, there is a 5 min break. If there are still the appropriate number of players, the teams are randomized and another tournament match pair begins. 5. Score would be measured by individual rather than team, such that a players score would be [# of wins]/[# of matches played].
For example, the tournament could occur over the period of a month where the a player would need to play at least one full match pair (2 games) every weekend at a minimum to qualify.
I'm not sure what to do in the situation of client crashes/disconnects or server crashes. For this to work, someone would need to make a plugin that would automate the randomize/match pair start and collect the player wins and # of matches played.
Also, since the randomize part would conflict with people who want to play as an organized team, you could also have separate tournament servers where it doesn't randomize.
<!--quoteo(post=1847992:date=May 23 2011, 06:36 AM:name=bigpoppa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bigpoppa @ May 23 2011, 06:36 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1847992"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think we might be the only clan ATM so we could deal with this in two ways:
1) Get 10 players and just mix us all up
2) #156 vs. a pug team
To be honest as a clan we haven't done any practiced games/developed strategies. We're familiar with each other though. I'd be more than happy to mix it up, but I don't think any of us are so OP that it would be a domination.
I'll say though that I really have no preference towards what goes on--just want to get some good NS2 play in.
Here are some rules that I think would work out well:
Best 2 out of 3 games, randomized who is marines/aliens first and then alternating with another random draw for game 3 if it comes to a 1-1 series.
I don't see much sense in having a hydra/turret cap just because there is no real efficient way (to my knowledge) of keeping track of this sort of information that would be simple for the aliens and not detract from their ability to focus their attention on the game.
No intentional exploits of in-game bugs.
I can't really think of any other rules that would need to be addressed right now but it is quite late. I'm not in favor of rules that change gameplay too drastically (no bunnyhopping, etc) but are complained about from time to time.
If there's a place where good scrim guidelines could be established it seems like this would be it; so I'd be interested to hear your input Bob.
Sam<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hi there,
Myself and some friends of mine have been keeping an eye on this game. We hail from a game called Dystopia (Source mod) and have been interested in maybe getting involved in the competative scene in NS2 if it comes to fruition.
Would clan #156 be interested in a 6v6 match sometime in the near future? We would be happy for it to be casted and might give a better representation than clan vs pub group of how the game is played out! And also we feel that 5v5 would detract from the fun (as someone mentioned, 4 on the field + comm will effectively happen), and anything above a 6v6 would end up possibly being spammy.
A best of 3 series seems like an iffy format in which to play however (because there is a high potential that in a final game, 1 team will potentially roll their off-race), but having an out-and-out winner seems negligable, seeing as this is effectively a "show match" than something that counts.
I kinda wanna say also that, if clan #156 is up for doing this, we should wait till the next patch? Someone mentioned that there should be an update soon, but irregardless of a patch, this Friday/Saturday might be good (I am Eu, my friends are US so we'll schedule more to US times).
If you're interested I can pm you my steam name and we can try sorting this out! Maybe NS2HD would like to get in on this? If it wasn't for his videos I wouldn't understand this game + he has a good voice for commentating.
Hope this finds you well, and we can get something going o/
1) I agree with the 6v6 teams. 2) I also think the best 2 out of 3 since thats the way the old NS1 TWL did it. 3) We will need the server host to attend or be close at hand (textable) to have a server reboot if needed or admins with ability for server reboot. 4) If a player crashes out they need to try to re-enter the game as fast as they can. 5) The server can be set for 13 players, 6v6 and one to spectate? 6) Each team plays rines and aliens, if each team has 1 win then the spectator picks a # between 1-10 and both side guess. winner gets choice of rines or aliens. 7) If we want it to be recorded then we need to make it a time that works for NS2HD as well. 8) A server will need to be selected that works well for most of the players. 9) Set it up on one server one weekend night and another on the following weekend night in a rotation of lets say 3-4 servers. One or two in the US, one in AU and one in EU to make it more fair for everyone ping wise.
vlncJoin Date: 2010-09-07Member: 73921Members, Squad Five Blue
<!--quoteo(post=1848139:date=May 24 2011, 12:13 PM:name=hartraft)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hartraft @ May 24 2011, 12:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1848139"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Aus next to my name if you would so please? :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What would be really nice is if someone can throw together a counter-strike like observer HUD. a small healthbar per teammember in the corner which you can click on to fast-zoom onto their camera view
And you know what could work also. Is everyone get on #naturalselection and im sure you can get 12 people. Get them in a ts or vent and do a 12 man pug pick captains and what not. We dont need a cup to do scrims and stuff. Im trying to get some of my cod4 buds to come get the beta and play but there hard to get.
vlncJoin Date: 2010-09-07Member: 73921Members, Squad Five Blue
edited May 2011
<!--quoteo(post=1848259:date=May 24 2011, 09:21 PM:name=Shilorius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shilorius @ May 24 2011, 09:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1848259"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- At what time will it take place? Because the players are spread all over the world. Maybe a Saturday?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yep, I think match will be played the Week-End
<!--quoteo(post=1848259:date=May 24 2011, 09:21 PM:name=Shilorius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shilorius @ May 24 2011, 09:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1848259"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- Where is the server located you offer?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm offering a server in EU (France), #156 have server in East and West US, also I think we can play on DE/UK/AUS server.
dePARAJoin Date: 2011-04-29Member: 96321Members, Squad Five Blue
Team#156 is an US-Team. It would be great if we had other "National Teams".
Im from Germany and think this tournament is an nice idea. Sure this is for fun, but the winnerteam should win something. Maybe a special BlackArmor or something like that.
<!--quoteo(post=1848392:date=May 25 2011, 01:13 PM:name=dePARA)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dePARA @ May 25 2011, 01:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1848392"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Team#156 is an US-Team. It would be great if we had other "National Teams".
Im from Germany and think this tournament is an nice idea. Sure this is for fun, but the winnerteam should win something. Maybe a special BlackArmor or something like that.
So, im interested and hope others germans too.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i dont need to win something. its just to play competitive again :) id love to play for team germany.
I join too. (and hope that I have Time on the specific weekend we will play) and I would like to join the german team, but every other english speaking team is fine too.
PS.: thank you vlnc for the answers. And btw. the Site looks interesting and would serve the purpose, I think.
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edited May 2011
This is shaping up to be some seriously good times. ;)
Although, I'm a little disappointed NS2HD won't be taking part in the actual game(s). I still need to get him back for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8phS6f_4ME&feature=player_profilepage#t=53s" target="_blank">this</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8phS6f_4ME&feature=player_profilepage#t=420s" target="_blank">this</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8phS6f_4ME&feature=player_profilepage#t=624s" target="_blank">this too</a>. *grins* Respect Hugh!
Might I suggest that any AUS or EU players do some speed tests to a server located in north west of the US; that's where the 156 West US server is. Unfortunately, you're ping(s) might be unacceptable. On that note, what about making this some kind of regional skirmish? I don't think there is a server in the world that everyone can have a good game on right now. I'd hate for one side or the other to have an unfair advantage. That would just diminish the fun.
I would offer up our 156 east coast servers as well for this, but they have some serious performance problems. I'm definitely looking forward to this, good stuff and props to vlnc on putting this together.
<!--quoteo(post=1848432:date=May 25 2011, 06:11 PM:name=vlnc)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vlnc @ May 25 2011, 06:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1848432"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Guys, first I would like to thank you of your motivation about trying to mount a tournament.
But I think we should wait for some updates before starting the cup.
This is the beginning of something but many players won't have a team and starting a cup with 2/3 teams is not cool.
Second point, it's hard to organize matchs between us cause we are spread all over the world.
So the good thing should be to start by some showmatchs recorded by Hugh and show people how ns2 competitive is cool (i hope it will).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe its to ambitious to begin with a cup. I share your concerns regarding pinglag. so my proposal is to just have a match on sunday evening with mixed teams (or clans also, if there are some) and more regional play. if people like it we could do it more often and maybe we can start a cup there.
<!--coloro:#FF8C00--><span style="color:#FF8C00"><!--/coloro-->My proposal is sunday evening 7pm GMT (which should be 8pm in germany(GMT+1) :P). i hope dePara is able to bring the ts server online by then. Everybody interested feel free to contact me. Steam: lebowski.ger
Dolce & Lebowski
edit: ok changed time standards. thanks for reminding!<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
Comments
I'm Saint Raw ingame, I'd like to join an english speaking european clan.
Got like 20 hours of ns2 on my name and played ns1 from v1.04.
DON'T MAKE ME DESTROY YOU!
;D
;D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
TARGET LOCKED !!!!!
1) Get 10 players and just mix us all up
2) #156 vs. a pug team
To be honest as a clan we haven't done any practiced games/developed strategies. We're familiar with each other though. I'd be more than happy to mix it up, but I don't think any of us are so OP that it would be a domination.
I'll say though that I really have no preference towards what goes on--just want to get some good NS2 play in.
Here are some rules that I think would work out well:
Best 2 out of 3 games, randomized who is marines/aliens first and then alternating with another random draw for game 3 if it comes to a 1-1 series.
I don't see much sense in having a hydra/turret cap just because there is no real efficient way (to my knowledge) of keeping track of this sort of information that would be simple for the aliens and not detract from their ability to focus their attention on the game.
No intentional exploits of in-game bugs.
I can't really think of any other rules that would need to be addressed right now but it is quite late. I'm not in favor of rules that change gameplay too drastically (no bunnyhopping, etc) but are complained about from time to time.
If there's a place where good scrim guidelines could be established it seems like this would be it; so I'd be interested to hear your input Bob.
Sam<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since,
1. There aren't many active clans in NS2
2. There isn't enough players for regional tournaments
3. Its hard to organize a consistent time/place for matches that include a lot of pubbers
How about we tweak the tournament a bit to make it something like this:
1. Players can join tournament servers whenever they are free from 5pm-3am GMT on Friday/Saturday.
2. Once the server fills up to the appropriate number of players (10, for example), the teams are randomized and a tournament match pair begins.
3. Two consecutive matches are played with the same players play on each side once.
4. After the two matches, there is a 5 min break. If there are still the appropriate number of players, the teams are randomized and another tournament match pair begins.
5. Score would be measured by individual rather than team, such that a players score would be [# of wins]/[# of matches played].
For example, the tournament could occur over the period of a month where the a player would need to play at least one full match pair (2 games) every weekend at a minimum to qualify.
I'm not sure what to do in the situation of client crashes/disconnects or server crashes. For this to work, someone would need to make a plugin that would automate the randomize/match pair start and collect the player wins and # of matches played.
Also, since the randomize part would conflict with people who want to play as an organized team, you could also have separate tournament servers where it doesn't randomize.
1) Get 10 players and just mix us all up
2) #156 vs. a pug team
To be honest as a clan we haven't done any practiced games/developed strategies. We're familiar with each other though. I'd be more than happy to mix it up, but I don't think any of us are so OP that it would be a domination.
I'll say though that I really have no preference towards what goes on--just want to get some good NS2 play in.
Here are some rules that I think would work out well:
Best 2 out of 3 games, randomized who is marines/aliens first and then alternating with another random draw for game 3 if it comes to a 1-1 series.
I don't see much sense in having a hydra/turret cap just because there is no real efficient way (to my knowledge) of keeping track of this sort of information that would be simple for the aliens and not detract from their ability to focus their attention on the game.
No intentional exploits of in-game bugs.
I can't really think of any other rules that would need to be addressed right now but it is quite late. I'm not in favor of rules that change gameplay too drastically (no bunnyhopping, etc) but are complained about from time to time.
If there's a place where good scrim guidelines could be established it seems like this would be it; so I'd be interested to hear your input Bob.
Sam<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hi there,
Myself and some friends of mine have been keeping an eye on this game. We hail from a game called Dystopia (Source mod) and have been interested in maybe getting involved in the competative scene in NS2 if it comes to fruition.
Would clan #156 be interested in a 6v6 match sometime in the near future? We would be happy for it to be casted and might give a better representation than clan vs pub group of how the game is played out! And also we feel that 5v5 would detract from the fun (as someone mentioned, 4 on the field + comm will effectively happen), and anything above a 6v6 would end up possibly being spammy.
A best of 3 series seems like an iffy format in which to play however (because there is a high potential that in a final game, 1 team will potentially roll their off-race), but having an out-and-out winner seems negligable, seeing as this is effectively a "show match" than something that counts.
I kinda wanna say also that, if clan #156 is up for doing this, we should wait till the next patch? Someone mentioned that there should be an update soon, but irregardless of a patch, this Friday/Saturday might be good (I am Eu, my friends are US so we'll schedule more to US times).
If you're interested I can pm you my steam name and we can try sorting this out! Maybe NS2HD would like to get in on this? If it wasn't for his videos I wouldn't understand this game + he has a good voice for commentating.
Hope this finds you well, and we can get something going o/
Smaug
2) I also think the best 2 out of 3 since thats the way the old NS1 TWL did it.
3) We will need the server host to attend or be close at hand (textable) to have a server reboot if needed or admins with ability for server reboot.
4) If a player crashes out they need to try to re-enter the game as fast as they can.
5) The server can be set for 13 players, 6v6 and one to spectate?
6) Each team plays rines and aliens, if each team has 1 win then the spectator picks a # between 1-10 and both side guess. winner gets choice of rines or aliens.
7) If we want it to be recorded then we need to make it a time that works for NS2HD as well.
8) A server will need to be selected that works well for most of the players.
9) Set it up on one server one weekend night and another on the following weekend night in a rotation of lets say 3-4 servers. One or two in the US, one in AU and one in EU to make it more fair for everyone ping wise.
Just some of my ideas :-)
Team #156 Playa_2b
The list of players who looking for a team has been update.
Can zh` and a #156 member send me your list of players ?
I will add teams name and players of it.
I'm in the US.
done
I'll contact #156 to make something official about the rules ...
Most active:
McGlaspie
Ifunds
Scottie
Wolf
Playa_2b
Hung
John
Redshirt
Big Poppa
PersianImm0rtal
Active but waiting on better optimization:
Alpha
Caste
General Bowser
Tidomann
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- At what time will it take place? Because the players are spread all over the world. Maybe a Saturday?
- Where is the server located you offer?
Anyway.. I would love to join but I'm afrait that I don't have time when it takes place :-/
Yep, I think match will be played the Week-End
<!--quoteo(post=1848259:date=May 24 2011, 09:21 PM:name=Shilorius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shilorius @ May 24 2011, 09:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1848259"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- Where is the server located you offer?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm offering a server in EU (France), #156 have server in East and West US, also I think we can play on DE/UK/AUS server.
I think I'll use it tor the cup.
Im from Germany and think this tournament is an nice idea.
Sure this is for fun, but the winnerteam should win something. Maybe a special BlackArmor or something like that.
So, im interested and hope others germans too.
Im from Germany and think this tournament is an nice idea.
Sure this is for fun, but the winnerteam should win something. Maybe a special BlackArmor or something like that.
So, im interested and hope others germans too.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i dont need to win something. its just to play competitive again :)
id love to play for team germany.
Dolce & Lebowski
Team Holland (A)
and I would like to join the german team, but every other english speaking team is fine too.
PS.: thank you vlnc for the answers. And btw. the Site looks interesting and would serve the purpose, I think.
Although, I'm a little disappointed NS2HD won't be taking part in the actual game(s). I still need to get him back for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8phS6f_4ME&feature=player_profilepage#t=53s" target="_blank">this</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8phS6f_4ME&feature=player_profilepage#t=420s" target="_blank">this</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8phS6f_4ME&feature=player_profilepage#t=624s" target="_blank">this too</a>. *grins* Respect Hugh!
Might I suggest that any AUS or EU players do some speed tests to a server located in north west of the US; that's where the 156 West US server is. Unfortunately, you're ping(s) might be unacceptable. On that note, what about making this some kind of regional skirmish? I don't think there is a server in the world that everyone can have a good game on right now. I'd hate for one side or the other to have an unfair advantage. That would just diminish the fun.
I would offer up our 156 east coast servers as well for this, but they have some serious performance problems. I'm definitely looking forward to this, good stuff and props to vlnc on putting this together.
EDIT:
Oh, I call dibs on shiv and wacko! =P
But I think we should wait for some updates before starting the cup.
This is the beginning of something but many players won't have a team and starting a cup with 2/3 teams is not cool.
Second point, it's hard to organize matchs between us cause we are spread all over the world.
So the good thing should be to start by some showmatchs recorded by Hugh and show people how ns2 competitive is cool (i hope it will).
But I think we should wait for some updates before starting the cup.
This is the beginning of something but many players won't have a team and starting a cup with 2/3 teams is not cool.
Second point, it's hard to organize matchs between us cause we are spread all over the world.
So the good thing should be to start by some showmatchs recorded by Hugh and show people how ns2 competitive is cool (i hope it will).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe its to ambitious to begin with a cup. I share your concerns regarding pinglag.
so my proposal is to just have a match on sunday evening with mixed teams (or clans also, if there are some) and more regional play.
if people like it we could do it more often and maybe we can start a cup there.
<!--coloro:#FF8C00--><span style="color:#FF8C00"><!--/coloro-->My proposal is sunday evening 7pm GMT (which should be 8pm in germany(GMT+1) :P). i hope dePara is able to bring the ts server online by then. Everybody interested feel free to contact me. Steam: lebowski.ger
Dolce & Lebowski
edit: ok changed time standards. thanks for reminding!<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->