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  • TheslanTheslan TWG Signature Maker Join Date: 2004-04-27 Member: 28245Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1680798:date=Jun 10 2008, 09:38 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Jun 10 2008, 09:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680798"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hmph, I need more slaves. down to 20 slaves spamming and they really don't net me much $$.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    20?! I just have like... 8.

    Btw Comprox, I'm uploading 1.1 WWL for you right now, so in about an hour and a half, you'll get it. I'll come back and recheck around that time.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited June 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1680821:date=Jun 10 2008, 03:33 PM:name=Theslan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Theslan @ Jun 10 2008, 03:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680821"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->20?! I just have like... 8.

    Btw Comprox, I'm uploading 1.1 WWL for you right now, so in about an hour and a half, you'll get it. I'll come back and recheck around that time.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    that is down from 30, and I am only making like 100 per hour TOTAL

    it is kinda pathetic, but that is what happens when yo can't play for a week due to something sucking.

    Really, getting slaves isn't all that hard.

    camp bank logs for new IPs
    When you are slaving some one, check their logs for more IPs

    If some one is currently active, just slave them with out installing any thing and mark them as some one to come back to latter. When I camp bank logs I wait till some other time in the day and go and check their PCs then.
  • TheslanTheslan TWG Signature Maker Join Date: 2004-04-27 Member: 28245Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1680822:date=Jun 10 2008, 12:42 PM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Jun 10 2008, 12:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680822"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->that is down from 30, and I am only making like 100 per hour TOTAL

    it is kinda pathetic, but that is what happens when yo can't play for a week due to something sucking.

    Really, getting slaves isn't all that hard.

    camp bank logs for new IPs
    When you are slaving some one, check their logs for more IPs

    If some one is currently active, just slave them with out installing any thing and mark them as some one to come back to latter. When I camp bank logs I wait till some other time in the day and go and check their PCs then.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I must be coming on off times cuz when I camp, I find... 4 IPs. And from the 4, I see massive vspam. Seriously. One I went to and I saw 15 .3 vspams installed. I gave up trying to install some on his.

    Others are very active... I watch them for a while, and usually two things happen:
    1) I secretly install vspam on them + hide it... then they scan almost immediately (even though I camp their logs for 10 minutes with no activity).
    2) They're all getting money from NPCs.

    Right now I have 10, and the ones that are making money sadly are NPCs that are above FW 1. The rest are liter with vspam already that I'm just getting a drop of the ocean. Last night was better though... I found one that had 100 Mbit connection, and I was getting about 400 from him per 10 minutes. Now he's littered with vspams.


    Booo.... I clean out my viruses, and I found a vspam 1.5 immediately reinstalled. I didn't get to see who it is, but he could go through my FW 2. I guess he's happy since he's the only one on me now.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    76.32.172.132
    Can someone do something horrible to this guy? He has been deleting my stuff like 10 times now. Resetting stuff, but it takes time.
  • TheslanTheslan TWG Signature Maker Join Date: 2004-04-27 Member: 28245Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1680824:date=Jun 10 2008, 12:58 PM:name=Abra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Abra @ Jun 10 2008, 12:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->76.32.172.132
    Can someone do something horrible to this guy? He has been deleting my stuff like 10 times now. Resetting stuff, but it takes time.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    On it. Try to get a firewall .7... he doesn't have anything powerful to go beyond that. I'll be watching him for a little bit whenever time permits.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680827:date=Jun 10 2008, 04:34 PM:name=Theslan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Theslan @ Jun 10 2008, 04:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680827"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->On it. Try to get a firewall .7... he doesn't have anything powerful to go beyond that. I'll be watching him for a little bit whenever time permits.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just take out his waterwall and his cracker.
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1680814:date=Jun 10 2008, 02:11 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jun 10 2008, 02:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680814"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Who installed our 4.8 share virus?
    Was it you Isamil?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No. I've been wondering that myself.

    Although, now that it has a 350mbit connection, someone should be warezing it.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680830:date=Jun 10 2008, 04:37 PM:name=Isamil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Isamil @ Jun 10 2008, 04:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680830"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No. I've been wondering that myself.

    Although, now that it has a 350mbit connection, someone should be warezing it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, now that I'm playing again I have cleaned the viruses out, including my own.
    I'll make money the old fashioned way.
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    Why wouldn't we use the GS for cash though?
  • TheslanTheslan TWG Signature Maker Join Date: 2004-04-27 Member: 28245Members
    edited June 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1680829:date=Jun 10 2008, 01:36 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jun 10 2008, 01:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680829"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just take out his waterwall and his cracker.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm going to be more evil. I'm going to hide it.

    well, I can't do much to him. He has it all stored on his external disk, so it takes him a few minutes to restore the FW and the WWL. I'll continue to keep an eye on him though.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    edited June 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1680832:date=Jun 10 2008, 04:42 PM:name=Isamil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Isamil @ Jun 10 2008, 04:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680832"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why wouldn't we use the GS for cash though?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Paranoia, increased risk, etc...

    If we <b>were</b> to use the GS for cash, we would need to all agree to put the same level viruses on it so we all get equal profit. (This would mean we all do .3 because it takes the least space and the level doesn't increase the profit)

    There was a few posts earlier on this topic though, and we all kind of agreed that it wasn't the best idea. I've been doing it to get back in the groove after spending 100k on it originally. I certainly don't want anyone else getting the GS IP because if they do, and they are feeling malicious, it would cost us 200,000 to reset the IP.
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    It's only 25,000, at least for the first IP reset.
    I heard that having multiple viruses gives diminishing returns, so if we did virus the GS, it would be best to just have 1 person with a warez virus and another with a spam(fairy sure they wouldn't conflict)
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited June 2008
    so, I am gona be a bit silly and go on a bank run in a few mins

    any one want to sit on the first 3 banks and constantly log clear?

    I plan on IP resetting after this any way, and the money is getting dumped into a junk account at the end, but still <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    I mean, I have 18 in the first bank and 2 in the 2nd and 3 in the 3rd
    they are probably all empty by now, but I just want to try this once <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680837:date=Jun 10 2008, 05:02 PM:name=Isamil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Isamil @ Jun 10 2008, 05:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680837"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's only 25,000, at least for the first IP reset.
    I heard that having multiple viruses gives diminishing returns, so if we did virus the GS, it would be best to just have 1 person with a warez virus and another with a spam(fairy sure they wouldn't conflict)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's true, but one may make more than the other, and what I was saying is that if we wanted to do it we should all profit equally.

    Doesn't really matter though, I don't think slaving the GS is a good idea. Increases risk too much.

    The cost must have been going down because it said 200,000 a few days ago.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1680821:date=Jun 10 2008, 01:33 PM:name=Theslan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Theslan @ Jun 10 2008, 01:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680821"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->20?! I just have like... 8.

    Btw Comprox, I'm uploading 1.1 WWL for you right now, so in about an hour and a half, you'll get it. I'll come back and recheck around that time.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    you uploaded a 1.1 firewall, not a waterwall actually, but thanks for that <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    Okay, who loves pancakes? Whowasit?
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    I made a lot of money from kts's GS from warez sharing (more than 3k/hr when I started). I'm thinking we should upgrade the GS to max connectivity. Have exactly 1 person slave it with a warez share. I couldn't get an exact number because other people infected it as well. But assuming 3k/hr minimum (it might actually be 3.5-4), it'd take ~22 days of slaving to pay for another GS with max connection, ~11 days for the next. ~7 after that, ~5.5, ~4.4. and so on.

    In a month and a half we could have a serious revenue stream going. And considering that people can DDoS you back to hardware hell in this game, it seems like a never-ending supply of cash is the way to go.

    We'd have to break up the group and assign each GS to individual people. But there's no reason why that should throw a wrench in the works if we can organize a secure website somewhere.

    Just thinking out loud.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680850:date=Jun 10 2008, 06:20 PM:name=[WHO]Them)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE([WHO]Them @ Jun 10 2008, 06:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680850"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Just thinking out loud.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are your calculations considering the cost to upgrade to max connectivity as well?

    Other then that, I like the idea... I just don't think I'll be interested in this game for much longer. Just making money tends to be boring, and getting to the next step (that being, making lots of money and DDoSing people and basically just greifing the world) seems to be a huge time commitment
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I agree with Them. But the question then becomes, what do we do with the money once everyone has their own gs?
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    I have about 21,000 on hand right now.
    Also, if someone wanted to warez slave me you would have a very large cashflow(1000mbit after all)
    I should have bought a GS with that 3.5 million I stole, was in too much of a hurry to get rid of it all...
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680854:date=Jun 10 2008, 06:32 PM:name=Isamil)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Isamil @ Jun 10 2008, 06:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680854"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have about 21,000 on hand right now.
    Also, if someone wanted to warez slave me you would have a very large cashflow(1000mbit after all)
    I should have bought a GS with that 3.5 million I stole, was in too much of a hurry to get rid of it all...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pancake man, what's your IP? :-D
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I've finally picked up a 100 mbit connection (all money from slaves) I've never hit a bank before. Could I get some tips? Banks are well trafficked and I want to minimize my risk while I go through the list of bank info I've accumulated.
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    huh.. I need to remember to turn off noscript when I actually want to post. Anyways, the 4.8 vshare on the GS was mine, as I'm a self-serving jerk, and it made about 1k/h on the current connection. I'm also lazy so it was really my only good slave :x
    I think them has a fairly good plan with starting sort of a GS farm. I'm sure we could organize something of that sort.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680857:date=Jun 10 2008, 08:02 PM:name=Gwahir)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwahir @ Jun 10 2008, 08:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680857"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've finally picked up a 100 mbit connection (all money from slaves) I've never hit a bank before. Could I get some tips? Banks are well trafficked and I want to minimize my risk while I go through the list of bank info I've accumulated.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Use instant clear... To be honest you can't do banks safely. Your best bet is to reset your IP after, and to transfer money between banks so that people on your trail from one bank don't know where the money actually ended up... (use a secure bank where the accounts cost 300 or so euros for this hop point)

    Umm... But yeah. If you want to reduce the risk of your IP or bank account being snatched (you can't prevent either) you better now how to set up an instant clear... or have someone else in the bank clearing for you when you log in or finish a transaction.

    Cracking an account does not get logged, only logging in or making a transaction.

    Only other thing is that if you are going to reset your IP and you're diong this hop step at the secure bank, you should only bother clearing at the secure bank. The old IP and the account at the secure bank you should consider comprimised. The chance someone is camping the secure bank though is far less than the first bank (and so the end location of the money could be covered here)

    When you make a transaction it only is logged in the bank you are transferring <b>from</b>.

    There is my speedy guide to bank heists.
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1680852:date=Jun 10 2008, 03:29 PM:name=Gwahir)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwahir @ Jun 10 2008, 03:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680852"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I agree with Them. But the question then becomes, what do we do with the money once everyone has their own gs?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Each person maintains their own slaved GS and makes 3-4k an hour with relative safety. And then we take over the world.


    Also, on the front of camping bank logs. I'm thinking we might want to get a steam community (shameless plug of easy communication). Get 7 people together. Insert 6 people into the banks (1 on each), and wait a good half hour. Then have them start posting fake transfers of large sums of money in a randomized web to valid accounts (each person owns an empty account for this purpose). You have all of these fake transfers originate from some randomly designated inactive slave that we upgrade to 5.0 firewall (to keep out the noobs).

    The idea being to funnel log entries of juicy (5.0 wwl) slave prospects onto the inactive slave where someone (maybe 2 people) is camping and collecting. We also post a very appetizing fake set of entries of vspam collection from other ip's for people to go after on the slave to prevent them log camping with us for very long.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680859:date=Jun 10 2008, 08:29 PM:name=ANeM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ANeM @ Jun 10 2008, 08:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680859"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->huh.. I need to remember to turn off noscript when I actually want to post. Anyways, the 4.8 vshare on the GS was mine, as I'm a self-serving jerk, and it made about 1k/h on the current connection. I'm also lazy so it was really my only good slave :x
    I think them has a fairly good plan with starting sort of a GS farm. I'm sure we could organize something of that sort.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You could have at least uploaded a replacement 4.8 so we could all use it rather than just installing one. (I don't know if you even uploaded it in the first place, and if you didn't extreme shame on you)
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680861:date=Jun 10 2008, 08:35 PM:name=[WHO]Them)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE([WHO]Them @ Jun 10 2008, 08:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680861"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Each person maintains their own slaved GS and makes 3-4k an hour with relative safety. And then we take over the world.
    Also, on the front of camping bank logs. I'm thinking we might want to get a steam community (shameless plug of easy communication). Get 7 people together. Insert 6 people into the banks (1 on each), and wait a good half hour. Then have them start posting fake transfers of large sums of money in a randomized web to valid accounts (each person owns an empty account for this purpose). You have all of these fake transfers originate from some randomly designated inactive slave that we upgrade to 5.0 firewall (to keep out the noobs).

    The idea being to funnel log entries of juicy (5.0 wwl) slave prospects onto the inactive slave where someone (maybe 2 people) is camping and collecting. We also post a very appetizing fake set of entries of vspam collection from other ip's for people to go after on the slave to prevent them log camping with us for very long.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Damn. You are an evil mastermind. I like a lot.

    I also could totally agree with having an NS Offtopic Steam Community for use in not just this game but in other games... I know I don't have any of you as steam friends though I would definitely like to.
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1680862:date=Jun 10 2008, 05:36 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jun 10 2008, 05:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680862"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You could have at least uploaded a replacement 4.8 so we could all use it rather than just installing one. (I don't know if you even uploaded it in the first place, and if you didn't extreme shame on you)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I uploaded it myself. I was going to upload one to share but as I said, I'm lazy and selfserving <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1680864:date=Jun 10 2008, 08:41 PM:name=ANeM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ANeM @ Jun 10 2008, 08:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680864"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm lazy and selfserving <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Group rank appropriately modified.
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1680866:date=Jun 10 2008, 05:47 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jun 10 2008, 05:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1680866"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Group rank appropriately modified.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it was previously "Self Loving" Honestly I don't see much of a difference now other than the words used <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
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