Tjosan is voting "randomly" based on a bunch of "hunches" he has. Ok..... How does this help us? Really, it's not sparking a response out of anyone because he's going to change his vote not a few hours later. Even if he's human, I don't view his behavior is beneficial to us.
Further, he's the one that pointed out how my logic on semipsychotic could be construed that Semi is not a wolf, but merely a role. So, why is Semi still alive?
Now, here's a counter-point to my own claim: im_lost was a perfect wolf target. His voting got an inactive lynched, so there's nothing to go off of there. He was fairly quiet (as in not calling anyone out blatantly) and then came through with the voting log for the first day. He's also a very experienced player. So, they nail im_lost because semi may be better left for another time.
So, tjosan: if you're not a wolf, calm down. You're being way to much of a wildcard, and it's just not helping us.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1642362:date=Aug 6 2007, 10:26 AM:name=TheFeniX)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheFeniX @ Aug 6 2007, 10:26 AM) [snapback]1642362[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> So, tjosan: if you're not a wolf, calm down. You're being way to much of a wildcard, and it's just not helping us. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I would go as far to say that he is honestly harming us.
<!--quoteo(post=1642334:date=Aug 6 2007, 04:51 AM:name=Xentor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xentor @ Aug 6 2007, 04:51 AM) [snapback]1642334[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> I'm too lazy to check the rules thread right now, since I only have a few minutes before I have to get ready for work, but we've never counted votes if they're inside quote blocks, so tjo isn't voting for himself. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> After having recently created the new rules thread, I can say for sure that this is the case.
(Sorry for posting while dead, but I figured it was worth it for the rules clarification.)
Grrr. I don't like this. On one hand, I have to say Tjosan's voting scheme is very hapahazard... it does look wolfish. However, he admits being random, and being random means he's not helping us out because he switches his vote way too often to put pressure on anyone (All they have to do is wait until he switches again).
I wish Isamil would actually say more of why Thansal is wolfish. Maybe I don't see it, but nothing seems to stand out to me.
I would like to vote on Ana again, but at this point, it does seem useless, with only 5 hours or so left for the day.
My vote will have to be on <b>Thansal</b> at this point, since he seems to like to bring up my blood pressure in the previous day.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
Because I am such a great guy:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> [2007-08-05 18:09:53] <@Isamil> hi [2007-08-05 18:10:00] <@Isamil> I'm home now [2007-08-05 18:10:18] <+Thansal> yay! [2007-08-05 18:10:19] <@Isamil> seem to have become quite popular [2007-08-05 18:10:29] <+Thansal> so, what did I do that was wolfish? (aside from vote for you <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />) [2007-08-05 18:11:05] <@Isamil> hmmm [2007-08-05 18:11:42] <@Isamil> it's a gramatical thing [2007-08-05 18:11:55] <+Thansal> ? [2007-08-05 18:12:23] <@Isamil> if I have nothing to go on I read people's posts and decide, based on the way they're talking, who is most likely to be a wolf [2007-08-05 18:12:35] <@Isamil> gramatical is probably the wrong word [2007-08-05 18:12:46] <+Thansal> probably [2007-08-05 18:13:05] <+Thansal> is it word choice? or simply the way I am talking? [2007-08-05 18:13:09] <+Thansal> either way, good enough reasoning [2007-08-05 18:13:20] <+Thansal> however bah on you for ploping a 4th vote on me head then poofing <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> [2007-08-05 18:14:23] *** Eternaly_Lost (~s2r2@dslutz.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined [2007-08-05 18:14:23] *** ChanServ sets channel #ns-twg mode +v Eternaly_Lost [2007-08-05 18:16:20] <@Isamil> syntactical might be closer [2007-08-05 18:16:40] <@Isamil> still not really what I want [2007-08-05 18:17:37] <@Isamil> for example, I voted for e_lost last game because he sounded too carful in his posts [2007-08-05 18:17:45] <+Thansal> ahh, mkay [2007-08-05 18:17:50] <+Thansal> basicly I looked wolfish [2007-08-05 18:17:55] <+Thansal> nuff said <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> [2007-08-05 18:19:07] <@Isamil> tjosan wouldn't like that acording to the thread [2007-08-05 18:19:10] <@Isamil> "I only undermine players with obviously poor reasoning behind the votes. I'd accept random votes, or votes following a plan or some sort of decent reasoning. I won't accept votes based on "hunches"." [2007-08-05 18:25:11] <+Thansal> yah [2007-08-05 18:25:14] <+Thansal> hunches are good tbh <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
he felt like my posting was wolfish. I can understand that as it basically is just a gut feeling that you can't really explain.
IF you want more out of him, bug him your self <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
Alright, as I finish re-reading the thread, and my lunch hour ticks by, here's how I see things so far...
Isamil: Very wolfish vote at the beginning, with the perfect excuse to not have to explain it or change it. In other words, "Oops, I didn't realize I lynched him. Sorry, I wasn't around to fix it"... Now, if this was intentional, chances are it was done to protect <i>semipsychotic</i>, who was tied for three votes at the time. A wolf saving another wolf, or just a random vote that backfired?
tjosan: Honestly, my gut instinct says he's an indecisive newbie. He throws his vote all over the place on random hunches. Of course, I've been fooled by newbies before, and it may just be a little reverse-psychology from a newbie trying a trick no one would suspect. "No wolf would make a post like this, so I can't possibly be a wolf! *bark* Err, sorry, that was a burp."
Thansal: Got thrown into the spotlight, and was forced to defend himself. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see the reason for the bandwagon.
Faskalia: Took sides against both Isamil and tjosan, and has shifted his vote, but has stayed under the radar. I don't like it.
Planetkiller: Came up with the not-quite-so-random plan at the beginning. A legitimate strategy to force people to talk, or just him noticing that none of the wolves had votes, and wanting a way to avoid randomly losing a teammate? Of course, if we go with the latter, we vindicate Isamil, Theslan, and Thansal, while incriminating PK and Fask.
As always, I post a lot of my thought process, and somehow come to a conclusion, hoping I'm making sense with myself... Hmm, that sounded odd. So in short, my best guesses at wolves are either PK and Fask, or tjo and Isamil and semipsychotic. Sure, I don't have much information yet, but something's better than nothing.
For now, let's drop one on <b>Planetkiller</b>, to see if he has anything to say about that.
(Note that I may not be able to check this again before the day ends - I'm at work, and the day ends before I go home. I'll try to check it a few more times, but won't have time for long replies)
The vote counts put me in an interesting position. I don't want to designate tjo or Isamil for the lynch, but Thansal doesn't really belong in that crowd, either.
I'll vote for <b>TheFeniX</b> for now, with no particular reason other than that he talks a weird talk. I don't really want to see him lynched, though, just putting my vote somewhere so I can get a haircut.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1642379:date=Aug 6 2007, 01:18 PM:name=Xentor)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xentor @ Aug 6 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]1642379[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Isamil: Very wolfish vote at the beginning, with the perfect excuse to not have to explain it or change it. In other words, "Oops, I didn't realize I lynched him. Sorry, I wasn't around to fix it"... Now, if this was intentional, chances are it was done to protect <i>semipsychotic</i>, who was tied for three votes at the time. A wolf saving another wolf, or just a random vote that backfired? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I will point out one thing about Semi that I have been thinking about.
He keeps on getting his fat pulled out of the pan. When ever people start voting for him, reasons show up to switch votes (or people just switch). IT could be that he is a seer and Isamil was checked by him night 1 and was saving his but by possibly sacrificing himself. It is also possible that Isamil, semi, tjo and some one else are wolves and where working on the chaos created.
TBH, I don't really know what to think.
However I will say that Xentor has some good thoughts about Planetkiller, and it would be nice to hear from him.
<!--quoteo(post=1642376:date=Aug 6 2007, 12:37 PM:name=im_lost)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(im_lost @ Aug 6 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1642376[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> After having recently created the new rules thread, I can say for sure that this is the case.
(Sorry for posting while dead, but I figured it was worth it for the rules clarification.) <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From my understanding of the ruling, it is in the context of the post that matter if it counts as a vote or not.
because he did not say something that indicated that was his vote, it would not be a vote, because it was quoted from another person.
EMP_DemonNothing to see here.Join Date: 2005-01-28Member: 38754Members, Constellation
<!--quoteo(post=1642391:date=Aug 6 2007, 01:58 PM:name=Eternaly_Lost)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eternaly_Lost @ Aug 6 2007, 01:58 PM) [snapback]1642391[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Tjosan - The edit vote doesn't count, despite if it's bolded. However, it's EMP's call on that <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Q: What are the specific rules on voting? When, if ever, do bold names inside of quote tags count as an actual vote? Always, never, or when common sense says they should? A: If it's in a quote tag it doesn't count as a vote.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's what the FAQ says, and that's what I'm sticking with.
Ehh, most of this stuff is flying right over my head and I'm doing my best to grasp it dispite my headache. x_x
One thing I noticed though was im_lost's day one plan. semipsychotic changed his/her vote the most out of everyone, and that gave a few warning signs right away for me. It's possible that semi was just trying to protect him/herself, but I also wonder if there was a possiblility of lack of communication between the wolves. Either that or semi is swayed easliy..
A bit of me wonders of the possibility that semi had talked to one wolf, got suggested who to vote for, voted, talked to someone else and realized how wolfish that might seem, changed his/her vote, talked to yet another person, changed votes again, talked to a wolf, etc. I know it's unlikely and just as possible as uh, just trying to protect yourself in the beginning? Then again, if he/she's a human, semi might possibly be trying to find a side to be on while keeping his/her head.
Because people are pushing me to vote for obvious reasons, and because I don't want to think anymore right now, I'm going to stick with this hunch since I have no others. ._.
Fenix accused me of the same thing earlier, and it's still not true. I only changed my first vote once: from Theslan to x5. Today, I changed from Fenix to Planetkiller. In both cases, my first votes have been meaningless and temporary.
This may not be the perfect time to make an accusation (or even a pointed statement), but I'll say it: it's odd that Fenix and Ana should have the same story on me despite its obvious inaccuracy. I won't change my vote yet, but it's something to think about.
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edited August 2007
<b><i><!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->It is now Night Three: No Posting!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></i>
The group traveled for a good deal of the night. Despite the loss of im_lost, the group decided to keep moving. <b>Xentor</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> appeared to have resolved some difference between them, and were taking point for the rest of the group.
Behind them was <b>Nightstalker</b>, in his human form, though it made little difference which form he was in. At the very back was <b>Planetkiller</b>, <b>tjosan</b>, <b>Thansal</b>, and <b>Faskalia</b>. Everyone else was in between the two groups, either keeping a look out for potential threats or, in other cases, such as <b>Ana</b>'s, just keeping their mind on walking.
<b>Ana</b> was running a heated debate with herself. She knew that she couldn't entirely trust the other members of the group, and she also knew that nobody really was trusting anyone else... She wondered if she could just come clean, help the group together..
But then, im_lost's words were repeating to her... "<i>Would you be entirely honest about what <u>we</u> were doing before we got here? Infiltrating a last hope of free countries to make way for an omnipotent dark lord?</i>" No... she would have to stay quiet for now...
However, behind them, almost out of sight, was a group of soldiers from the village. They had a wagon for transportation, but were smart enough to stay out of the group's hearing range. One of the soldiers, however, had one of the relics from the forest fire, in the hopes that it would expose a vulnerability to the evil group.
In one soldier's hands was the_x5's grenade launcher...
The group, having walked south for a few hours, found themselves on a stone bridge overlooking a large ravine. At the bottom of the ravine was a raging river, winding its way into an ocean which could be seen in the distance, to the west.
However, one problem remained: staggered along the bridge were stone barricades, each taking up a third of the bridge's width. Whether they were part of the bridge's design, if they had been added due to some previous war, or if they were brand new, they couldn't tell.
The wagon group in the back, however, assumed the third option, and moved into position to attack. Meanwhile, <b>Xentor</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> both led their group around, using their superior senses to listen for anyone lurking behind any of the barricades.
Their plans were demolished when the back part of the group was nearly blown up...
"What <i>was</i> that?" <b>Thansal</b> wondered in confusion, "It nearly blew us up!"
"Ugh, I thought that incompetent marine would have stopped getting in the way after he died..." <b>Planetkiller</b> mumbled, more annoyed than anything else.
<b>tjosan</b>, in contrast, looked pissed. "What are you <i>talking</i> about?"
<b>Planetkiller</b> sighed, and explained, "the_x5 had multiple 'tools' that he kept offering to 'speed us up', despite that most of them would have resulted in either our injuries or our deaths. Right there was one of them, his grenade launcher.
<b>Faskalia</b> stared at <b>Planetkiller</b> with a hint of fear in his eyes, "A <i>GRENADE LAUNCHER</i>?!" By now, the four of them had huddled behind a barricade, trying to figure out what to do...
Meanwhile, <b>Theslan</b> and <b>semipsychotic</b> had their own idea. "You've got to go on ahead," <b>Theslan</b> urged the two aliens and <b>Nightstalker</b>, "It's definitely dangerous ahead and if they have reinforcements at the other end, we're screwed."
"Let us handle the area between here and the other end." <b>semipsychotic</b> already had a plan for this, but didn't inform the others of it. The three nonhumans started making their way to the other end, not caring what they were passing...
"I still don't think this is such a great idea," <b>Comprox</b> muttered.
<b>TheFeniX</b> couldn't talk, as he was currently in another form. This form looked almost similar to <b>Xentor</b>, only it walked upright and had a much large jaw. In particular, this form was suited to hunting prey through obstacles, but only for a short distance.
He looked through the nearest barricade, and, seeing nothing, shook his oversized head toward <b>Comprox</b>. The two of them moved ahead, and, repeating the pattern, cleared the way for <b>Ana</b> and <b>Isamil</b>, as well as <b>Theslan</b> and <b>semipsychotic</b>.
They kept moving...
On the other end of the bridge, however, the group of four found themselves under heavy fire. The <b>Projectile Protection</b> spell was effective against rains of arrows, but it did absolutely nothing to stop the grenades. While the first few were misses, they gradually became more and more accurate. Were it not for the nanites within the_x5's grenade launcher, they would have run out of ammo long ago.
This was not a comforting thought to <b>Planetkiller</b> nor <b>Faskalia</b>, as the constant explosions were distracting enough to prevent the use of most spells. At the moment, they were taking cover behind the stone barricades. However, the grenades would repeatedly destroy the barricades, causing pebbles to fly in all directions, and the group to move back another barricade.
Then, <b>Faskalia</b> had an idea. Moving a few extra barricades back, he began to charge one of the most basic spells any wizard could use in combat - a <i>Fireball</i>. He waited for the other three to back up to his location, and then launched the <i>Fireball</i> right at the wagon, hoping to buy some time.
It did more than that, however. The soldier holding the grenade launcher shot another shot at the group at the same time the fireball was fired. The two of them intersected at the point where the first few grenades landed, causing a massive explosion...
Most of the wagon group was just barely fazed, but the soldier holding the grenade launcher accidentally fired a shot straight up...
More importantly, the explosion took place right on the bridge where the first few shots hit. The additional stress on the bridge caused it to crack and start to fall. Everyone else, by this point, had reached the end of the bridge without encountering resistance, but now <b>tjosan</b>'s group was now in danger of falling into the river below.
The soldiers, however, knew that both of the wizards were able to teleport, and quickly began to aim shots toward the group still on the bridge. <b>Faskalia</b> quickly grabbed <b>Thansal</b>'s hand, and <b>Planetkiller</b> reached for <b>tjosan</b>'s hand. By now, the bridge was starting to fall off on the other end, too, and the four of them were easily vulnerable to arrow fire...
However, many of the archers were inexperienced, mostly used to hunting unsuspecting animals at a much lower range. However, one soldier was bound to hit something, and one did. <b>Planetkiller</b> felt his grip on <b>tjosan</b> suddenly let go, an arrow having hit him in the forearm just as he and <b>Faskalia</b> teleported...
"What happened?" <b>Thansal</b> saw the arrow's damage, and continued, "Where's <b>tjosan</b>?"
<b>Planetkiller</b> looked over to the other side of the ravine. The first thing that had caught his eye was the impact of the grenade behind the group of soldiers, sending many of them flying off the cliff. Looking down, the wizard could see a small body still attached to the falling bridge. A sudden impact on the bridge, from the narrowing ravine, sent that body flying, into a wall, bouncing off into the river.
A few hours of travel later, the group decided to rest for the night. They were on their guard, but once again they needn't have worried. The grenade force wouldn't have been discovered for a few days, and it would take another few to reach the port city, much less have a group sent from there to chase after what would be known as the greatest threat in their history.
Meanwhile, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, was once again following its prey. It had to go around the ravine the long way, but no matter. It was restless... and it was strong once more.
Making itself invisible and using a <i>Silence Alpha</i> spell lifted from im_lost's repertoire, it pursued its prey once again...
The group sat around their campfire, near a hole in the ground that looked like it could be a cave. A few loud growls prevented anyone from wanting to go in further, although they realized that they could use it as a chokepoint, as no sane person would want to follow <i>them</i> inside.
Of course, only one person was actually awake at the moment, <b>Nightstalker</b>, since he didn't need sleep. He was mainly looking forward to see if reinforcements would come from the village to the south. It was a similar size, almost a carbon copy of the previous village. However, he was also watching on the other paths in case the village before tried to send another attack force.
Meanwhile, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> finally tracked them to their location, and, turning invisible and silent once again, approached from the side <b>Nightstalker</b> wasn't watching from...
<b>Nightstalker</b> was almost robotically turning in each direction though, seeming to not want to keep looking in one direction for very long. He looked around, right past the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, and paused. Did he just see something?
He turned back toward where the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> had held still, waiting to see if it had been noticed. However, <b>Nightstalker</b> did indeed see something. While the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> was invisible, it certainly did occupy space. Quickly shifting into his creature form, <b>Nightstalker</b> rushed at the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, attempting to get a first hit in before his target realized he was under attack.
<b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> dodged the first hit however, and purged his invisibility so that it could perform a bit better. It then responded with a flurry of lightning-fast strikes that seemed to bounce off <b>Nightstalker</b> as the latter responded with a swing attack that the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> barely avoided with a quick jump back.
The impacts around were starting to wake up the group. While <b>Faskalia</b> and <b>Planetkiller</b> hadn't prepared any spells yet, and neither <b>Comprox</b> nor <b>TheFeniX</b>, back in his human form, wanted to shoot, as they might hit <b>Nightstalker</b> in the process.
<b>Ana</b>, on the other hand, whose spells had more of a spontaneous nature, like im_lost's, started casting loudly, "<i>Beta Fire! Alpha Bolt! Gamma Ice!</i>"
Unfortunately for <b>Ana</b>, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> possessed im_lost's knowledge as well as his spell arsenal, and was able to counter each of <b>Ana</b>'s spells with their counterparts easily. Unfortunately for the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, however, <b>Thansal</b> had taken the opportunity to re-assume his werewolf form; while it wasn't the full moon, it was still close enough to it to take on the form but still be able to control it.
The distraction caused by <b>Ana</b>'s spells was more than enough for <b>Thansal</b> to grab the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> by its legs and toss it up into the air...
...so that <b>Nightstalker</b> could strike the oddity, launching it all the way into the ravine which had just lost its stone bridge.
Sighing, everyone went back to sleep except for <b>Xentor</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>, who took over from the sleepless, yet still exhausted, <b>Nightstalker</b>.
The <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> slowly started to drift downstream. While it hadn't taken as much damage as that explosion a few nights ago, it was indeed hurt.
Unfortunately for almost everyone else, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> came across a body stuck on a rock, prevented from drifting further downstream. Near it was a cave, on the ravine wall which was closer to its prey.
Grabbing the body, it made a short leap to the cave's entrance. Once there, it consumed its meal without ceremony. Sensing that the cave would bring it to its prey, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> transformed into its new weresnake form and began to follow the cave, digging a new path for itself when applicable...
I'd like to hear from Faskalia as well, but I'm still waiting for <b>PlanetKiller</b> to speak up. Even moreso, after that one-word vote/post.
In fact, we're getting a lot of these quick "Hi! I vote for xxxxx! Bye!" posts... This needs to change. The time for random votes is over. That's perfectly reasonable on day one, but you've had time to see people post, and to put pieces together. If you're going to vote, state your reasoning.
I had less than 30 seconds to make that post, which I thought at the time I needed to save myself. I've been talking on IRC, if you check the logs. That might assuage your worries a little.
I'm going to post the entire IRC log from when I started saying stuff.
Aug 06 16:04:44 <semi> hmm, isamil is viewing the thread now Aug 06 16:04:49 <Isamil> correct Aug 06 16:05:02 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and I bet he going to vote Aug 06 16:05:04 <semi> we are intrigued Aug 06 16:05:04 <EMPDemon> Post 77, E_Lost Aug 06 16:05:16 <theslan-work> Elost, tjo voted for Faskalia, then Isamil. Aug 06 16:05:50 <Thansal> so as not to look like a wolf when I do it Aug 06 16:05:54 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> oh, then how did he get missed on the latter vote tables? Aug 06 16:05:55 <Thansal> I feel like keeping the votes as if Aug 06 16:06:11 <Thansal> if anything changes I (and probably Theslan) will change our votes to rebalance them Aug 06 16:06:21 <Thansal> so it takes mroe then 1 person to change how theye are currently Aug 06 16:06:36 <TheFeniX_Work> Fenix accused me of the same thing earlier, and it's still not true. Aug 06 16:06:39 <TheFeniX_Work> the differnece between Ana and I is that I corrected myself in IRC. Aug 06 16:06:48 <TheFeniX_Work> er, needed quotes for the first part. Aug 06 16:07:20 <TheFeniX_Work> Isamil's like "OMG EVERYONE IS WATCHING ME!" Aug 06 16:07:32 * semi shuffles through logs Aug 06 16:07:36 <TheFeniX_Work> vote for EmpDemon, this is all his fault. Aug 06 16:07:52 * lolfighter (~lolfighte@lolfighter.user.gamesurge) has joined #ns-twg Aug 06 16:07:52 <ChanServ> [lolfighter] Paplaksnes Aug 06 16:07:58 * EMPDemon casts Vote Reflect on self Aug 06 16:08:50 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> is Thansal's updated im_lost's speadsheet up to date? Aug 06 16:08:54 <Thansal> yus Aug 06 16:09:01 <Thansal> it had errors for a bit Aug 06 16:09:03 <Thansal> b/c I was a spaz Aug 06 16:09:07 <Thansal> but everything is right now Aug 06 16:09:58 <TheFeniX_Work> [2007-08-03 15:09:47] <+semi> and no, I haven't been chaging votes all over the place; x5 is only my second vote Aug 06 16:09:58 <TheFeniX_Work> [2007-08-03 15:10:44] <+semi> I suggested the crazy vote game then backed away from it after a) thansal's post and b) realizing that there would be too much static to read anything from it Aug 06 16:09:58 <TheFeniX_Work> [2007-08-03 15:10:47] <+TheFeniX_Work> you're right. I was thinking of tso Aug 06 16:10:36 <semi> oh, whoops, I was thinking of some other discussion then Aug 06 16:10:39 <semi> sure enough Aug 06 16:10:46 <theslan-work> ... Aug 06 16:10:52 <TheFeniX_Work> I immediately own up to mistakes like that (and I expect people to point them out) because even I need accurate information to go off of. Aug 06 16:11:00 <theslan-work> That's two people who had made the error Semi-->Tjo Aug 06 16:11:06 <semi> well, let it be known that I don't suspect you for that, but for Ana to do the same is a little weird Aug 06 16:11:15 <theslan-work> And nobody has made the error Theslan-->Thansal-->Theslan yet. Aug 06 16:11:18 <TheFeniX_Work> Ana mat have read my post, but not seen the IRC chat log. Aug 06 16:11:35 <Thansal> thes, yet. Aug 06 16:13:09 <Faskalia> hmm, so isamil could just free himself by voting tjo? Aug 06 16:13:15 <Thansal> 10 people watchign the thread Aug 06 16:13:24 <Thansal> fas, no Aug 06 16:13:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and to see what Isamil does Aug 06 16:13:33 <Thansal> as we would probably all tackle him Aug 06 16:13:58 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well 9 + isamil Aug 06 16:14:04 <Faskalia> ??? Why, to me they are both my most likely wolf suspects Aug 06 16:14:05 <Planetkiller> he's probably going to wait until the last second then Aug 06 16:14:39 <Faskalia> nope he isnt going to do it, because they are both wolves :P instead he will get another person to get 3 votes Aug 06 16:14:45 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and vote for tjo, to make sure he lives, or vote for thansal and force another 3 way tie Aug 06 16:14:59 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> or planet Aug 06 16:15:10 <Faskalia> or semi Aug 06 16:15:15 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> or semi Aug 06 16:15:15 <TheFeniX_Work> if he's smart, he's just tie it up three ways. Aug 06 16:15:16 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> yea Aug 06 16:15:23 <TheFeniX_Work> so he doesn't look too suspicious. Aug 06 16:15:39 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> If he give it to tjo, he looks suspicios without a good reason Aug 06 16:15:45 <Faskalia> if he does i might shift to tjo Aug 06 16:16:01 <Planetkiller> why would it be suspicious? If he wants to live... Aug 06 16:16:14 <Isamil> I feel like I'm hiding in a corner and no one's noticed me Aug 06 16:16:18 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> if he gives it to make a 3-way tie, he is less likely to die, then currently and look normal Aug 06 16:16:19 <TheFeniX_Work> it's double edged at this point. Aug 06 16:16:38 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> It late in the day, most people are in theroy not here to change there votes Aug 06 16:16:41 <semi> well, right now we know that he knows that we know etc. Aug 06 16:16:48 <semi> he accomplishes the same thing either method he uses Aug 06 16:17:00 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> giving him a lot of power over who dies, or has a chance to go to the chopping block Aug 06 16:17:17 <Faskalia> well i have a free day tomorrow, so i can wait and wait and wait... Aug 06 16:17:48 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> it only 4 here, so it not to hard to wait Aug 06 16:17:53 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well 4:16 Aug 06 16:18:10 <Faskalia> well, its 22:16 overe here ;) Aug 06 16:18:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I need to pack and clean my room, but it not like I can't do that well watching Aug 06 16:18:25 <TheFeniX_Work> isa, you did kind of let it get to this point through your own fault. Aug 06 16:18:36 <TheFeniX_Work> you would have been better of explaining and voting much earlier. Aug 06 16:18:46 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and the longer you wait, the harder we will be on you when you do vote Aug 06 16:18:47 <Faskalia> especially voting Aug 06 16:18:51 <semi> hey, maybe he's right where he wants to be Aug 06 16:19:17 <Isamil> right now I feel like making a sandwhich. why are the days ending earlier this game Aug 06 16:19:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> 50% chance of dieing + 100% of a phatom? Aug 06 16:19:28 <semi> he does have scary amounts of control, admittedly at the chance of being lynched later for it Aug 06 16:19:57 <Faskalia> nha, if he is a seer and he knows of a wolf whom he might get in reach with his vote Aug 06 16:22:49 <Thansal> yah, but if he does that at this point, it looks 100% wolf Aug 06 16:22:56 <Thansal> that is the problem with holding off this late Aug 06 16:23:10 <Thansal> also, I am with Isamil on this one, the days need to end a bit latter Aug 06 16:23:18 <Faskalia> well, but this early a dead wolf might be even more worth than a dead seer? or not??? <cunfused> Aug 06 16:24:16 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I am not to sure that days need to end earlyer, after all, we do get like 10 people watching the end of the day now Aug 06 16:24:22 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> later* Aug 06 16:24:52 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well 1 is the host, and 1 is dead... Aug 06 16:25:23 <theslan-work> host must be on the hotseat and random.org, ready to choose the lynch. Aug 06 16:25:38 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and so is isamil Aug 06 16:26:56 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> theslan-work, I though you were going to get that machiene voiced... Aug 06 16:27:19 <theslan-work> shhh. Aug 06 16:27:27 <theslan-work> I forgot again. Aug 06 16:27:28 * Thansal breaks out the slapping rod and looks sternly at Theslan Aug 06 16:28:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Is isamil writing a novel for a post, or is he not going to post? Aug 06 16:28:26 <Isamil> thinking Aug 06 16:28:35 <Thansal> *ponderponder* Aug 06 16:28:55 <EMPDemon> Yeah, there won't be a story right away since Planetkiller nuked it :< Aug 06 16:28:57 <Isamil> not very fast unfortunantly. I have a headache too Aug 06 16:29:24 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> take some asprin Aug 06 16:29:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Why do we have a lot of people in this game with headaches? Aug 06 16:29:38 <Isamil> perfer advil Aug 06 16:29:49 <Isamil> well I have a reason Aug 06 16:30:00 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> take some antiheadache medicne Aug 06 16:30:03 <Faskalia> sounds like a perfect script for another mythbuster episode Aug 06 16:30:23 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Are all anti headace meds a like? Aug 06 16:30:31 <theslan-work> different chemicals. Aug 06 16:30:32 <Faskalia> why do people sitting in front of the pc 24/7 often get hjeadaches :P Aug 06 16:30:43 <TheFeniX_Work> heroine abuse? Aug 06 16:30:55 <Isamil> heroin Aug 06 16:30:55 <theslan-work> I used to get headaches look at CRT. LCD seems to like my eyes. Aug 06 16:30:57 <Faskalia> nope, no heroine in asperine... Aug 06 16:31:20 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I ofter get headaches, but i know the reason and are on medication for it, I get headaches from noise Aug 06 16:31:36 <Faskalia> @theslan it might be the radiation... or even the HG ? dont know what it is in english :( Aug 06 16:32:07 <theslan-work> Probably. The catotube or whatever maybe hurting my eyes. Aug 06 16:32:15 <Faskalia> ding mercury, every CRT has mercury powder in it Aug 06 16:32:18 <Thansal> catho ray Aug 06 16:32:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I like CRT to LCD, they are easyer on my eyes Aug 06 16:32:40 <Thansal> cathode* Aug 06 16:32:59 <Isamil> you know, it would make sense for me to vote for tjosan. not doing so makes it look like we're both wolves Aug 06 16:33:05 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Saidly it hard to find a good cheap large sized small area crt Aug 06 16:33:33 <lolfighter> Do it Isamil! Do it! Aug 06 16:33:53 <Thansal> quite from the peanut gallery Aug 06 16:33:54 <Faskalia> just better vote soon, so i still have the chance to do some last minute backstabbing Aug 06 16:34:01 * lolfighter sics Don Quixote on Isamil Aug 06 16:34:02 <Isamil> you have an interest in my not surviving games Aug 06 16:34:09 <Isamil> I'm not sure if I should take advice from you Aug 06 16:34:30 <Faskalia> ok, then dont vote soon, instead wait till the last minute... Aug 06 16:34:30 <lolfighter> Doesn't matter anymore. I stopped playing. Aug 06 16:34:32 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> You know the later you vote, the worse it will be no matter who you vote for Aug 06 16:34:51 <Thansal> he Aug 06 16:35:01 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> More so becuase you did not come in last min and cast jsut before Aug 06 16:35:05 <Thansal> we should jsut put a vote on isamil so he can't do last min stabing Aug 06 16:35:29 <Isamil> personally I don't think that's a very good plan Aug 06 16:35:34 <Faskalia> hmm, maybe if empdemon would grant me another vote? Aug 06 16:35:45 <theslan-work> oooh. Aug 06 16:35:48 <theslan-work> Now that's an artifact. Aug 06 16:35:48 <Isamil> I'm sure I'll vote before 4:50 Aug 06 16:35:57 <theslan-work> double votes: your vote now counts for 2. Aug 06 16:36:13 <Isamil> that's a Kill Me sign Aug 06 16:36:18 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I had to be found in my game... Aug 06 16:36:24 <theslan-work> well, it's only used once. Aug 06 16:36:25 <Faskalia> yeah sure, but no mini game means no artifact or am i misinformed? Aug 06 16:36:38 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Normaly no artifact Aug 06 16:36:55 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> But the host can do it however he wants, say get x votes for you total and you get it Aug 06 16:37:20 <Faskalia> can he cure my aids? Aug 06 16:37:30 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> that would be kinda intresting, gain a extra vote, but you must get a total of 20 votes for you, and still be in the game Aug 06 16:37:33 <Faskalia> or doesnt he just want to? Aug 06 16:37:47 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> He limited to anything a computer can do Aug 06 16:37:55 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Can your computer cure it? Aug 06 16:37:59 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> If so, then he can Aug 06 16:38:08 <Thansal> Mine can Aug 06 16:38:15 <Faskalia> havent tried yet... maybe if i touch the CPU will it is running Aug 06 16:38:15 <Thansal> but I am just awsome like that. Aug 06 16:38:22 <Faskalia> it BUUURRRRNNNSSSS Aug 06 16:38:28 <Thansal> it burns like hygene! Aug 06 16:40:17 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> itunes is broken :( Aug 06 16:40:56 <Faskalia> itunes never worked. the whole prog is just borked Aug 06 16:41:07 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I starting to think that Aug 06 16:41:15 <Thansal> so, 20 mins left Aug 06 16:41:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Know any good free itunes alterinive programs to sync an ipod? Aug 06 16:41:33 <Isamil> you know, in the vote chart, planetkiller is spelled planterkiller once Aug 06 16:41:49 <TheFeniX_Work> yea, ebay: sell the ipod, buy something that doesn't suck Aug 06 16:41:51 <Faskalia> for starters: you dont want to sync an ipod! its just stupid. Aug 06 16:41:51 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I think I might have done that... Aug 06 16:42:21 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I got the ipod becuase I wanted a portiable video player, work fine for a while Aug 06 16:42:25 <semi> get some cheap little USB-based mp3 player Aug 06 16:42:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Now it just broked Aug 06 16:42:37 <Thansal> MP3 CD plaer FTW! Aug 06 16:42:38 <semi> then windows explorer does your synch work Aug 06 16:42:45 <Thansal> $20 Aug 06 16:42:46 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> usb mp3 players fo not play .mp4 files... Aug 06 16:42:47 <Faskalia> evertyime you dont have your external HDD conected by accident the ipod is going to sncy with the non existant=empty folder and needs to be synced again Aug 06 16:43:04 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> ah Aug 06 16:43:11 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Never had that happen Aug 06 16:43:25 <Faskalia> maybe because you store your music on the system partition? Aug 06 16:43:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well yea Aug 06 16:43:40 <Thansal> lol, there is a guest viewing now Aug 06 16:43:55 <Thansal> (never mind) Aug 06 16:43:57 <Faskalia> he must be thinking that we are crazy Aug 06 16:43:57 <semi> not any mor Aug 06 16:44:05 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> my music collection is only 2 gb, most of what I store is videos on differnt hd, and that worked just fine.. Aug 06 16:44:40 <Faskalia> granted. as far as i know the ipod only autodeletes mp3s if it cannot find it on a the pc Aug 06 16:45:07 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> did not happen with my videos at all Aug 06 16:45:31 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> And it sync music just fine, IT WILL NOT READD MY VIDEOS TO THE LIST! Aug 06 16:45:42 <Faskalia> which is actually quite funny, cause it disables music sharing between itunes users :P if you hook up your ipod to another itunes users pc its going to sync with the new pc deleting most of your files Aug 06 16:45:56 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I only sync with one computer Aug 06 16:46:21 <Faskalia> well i sncywith a NAS drive :P Aug 06 16:46:24 <Isamil> hey look I voted Aug 06 16:46:25 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> And maybe I get a zune next, hear anything bad with them? Aug 06 16:46:48 <Faskalia> my brother has a zune is is quite satisfied Aug 06 16:46:53 <Planetkiller> I'm truely tempted to save my own neck here Aug 06 16:47:07 <Faskalia> but i cannot say anything further. i have never seen it, only heard of it Aug 06 16:47:10 <Planetkiller> seeing as the votes against me have arrived for no reason that I can see... Aug 06 16:47:34 <Isamil> you've already voted for me though Aug 06 16:47:39 <Planetkiller> ah, true Aug 06 16:47:42 <Thansal> he can vote for tjo Aug 06 16:47:48 <Isamil> not that that factored into my decision Aug 06 16:47:51 <Isamil> because I just noticed Aug 06 16:48:05 <Planetkiller> heh, can't see why else you would, but that's a decent enough reason Aug 06 16:48:09 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Yea, well my mom wanted to get an ipod, because tivo is letting you put shows onto it, and i was wondering if it would do the same with zune Aug 06 16:48:15 <Planetkiller> still, the two others don't seem to make sense Aug 06 16:48:22 <Planetkiller> so I may vote out tjosan Aug 06 16:48:48 <Isamil> that would be your best option Aug 06 16:48:55 <Faskalia> afaik you can just put any wmv and even mist avi formats on it. dont know about integrating custom codecs in the zune, though Aug 06 16:48:55 <Planetkiller> anyone have an objection? Aug 06 16:49:15 <Faskalia> yes, i want isamil to die Aug 06 16:49:29 <Faskalia> and if you give to another vote he is safe Aug 06 16:49:30 <Planetkiller> well, not much I can do about that Aug 06 16:49:40 <Planetkiller> I'm already voting for him Aug 06 16:49:49 <Isamil> I would have voted for you faskalia but you didn't have any votes on you Aug 06 16:49:49 <Planetkiller> Thansal can help out if he chooses Aug 06 16:49:55 <Faskalia> you could not change your vote for a start Aug 06 16:50:06 <Planetkiller> but I want to live Aug 06 16:50:17 <Faskalia> only 33% Aug 06 16:50:23 <Planetkiller> and I know I'm human Aug 06 16:50:31 <Planetkiller> the others are really suspicious Aug 06 16:50:39 <Planetkiller> so I don't have a problem killing one of them Aug 06 16:51:36 <Isamil> good enough reasoning Aug 06 16:54:45 <Isamil> I think I'll change my vote Aug 06 16:55:17 <Planetkiller> er... really? Aug 06 16:55:29 <TheFeniX_Work> well, 8 minutes before day is over. That's kind of convenient. Aug 06 16:55:29 <Isamil> yes Aug 06 16:55:39 <Isamil> I liked your response Aug 06 16:55:55 <Isamil> so I'm going with semipsychotic instead Aug 06 16:55:57 <semi> aw, poop. Aug 06 16:56:02 <Eternaly_Lost> ... Aug 06 16:56:10 <Faskalia> wow--- Aug 06 16:56:14 <Eternaly_Lost> Appartly updating my ipod casued a BSD Aug 06 16:56:25 <Isamil> who does currently have the option of killing me Aug 06 16:56:30 <Faskalia> hmm emp, whats the official game time? Aug 06 16:56:34 <Isamil> if he chooses Aug 06 16:56:47 <Isamil> by forum time we have 8 miniutes left Aug 06 16:57:06 <Eternaly_Lost> 7 mins Aug 06 16:57:09 <Eternaly_Lost> but close enough Aug 06 16:57:12 <Faskalia> good point, but i would like to hear from emp Aug 06 16:57:13 <Isamil> 7 now Aug 06 16:57:16 <Eternaly_Lost> Real time you have 5 mins Aug 06 16:57:17 <EMPDemon> not forum time Aug 06 16:57:23 <EMPDemon> ~4 minutes Aug 06 16:57:27 <Eternaly_Lost> 4 now Aug 06 16:57:28 <Faskalia> thx, so real it is: 4mins :P Aug 06 16:57:34 <Isamil> why don't we use forum time? Aug 06 16:57:38 <Eternaly_Lost> cause it slow Aug 06 16:57:43 <Isamil> thought that was usually the standard here Aug 06 16:57:46 <Eternaly_Lost> !ghostkill Eternaly_Lost_Desktop Aug 06 16:57:50 <Eternaly_Lost> :( Aug 06 16:57:52 <Faskalia> cause my time comes from a cs246 clock :P Aug 06 16:58:07 * Eternaly_Lost_Desktop has quit (Ping timeout) Aug 06 16:58:29 <Isamil> <a href="http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java" target="_blank">http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java</a> Aug 06 16:58:33 <Isamil> we going with that? Aug 06 16:58:43 <Isamil> 2min 30 sec than Aug 06 16:59:04 <Thansal> tjo is at 4 Aug 06 16:59:09 <Faskalia> wow Aug 06 16:59:17 <Faskalia> can someone take their tjo vote back? Aug 06 16:59:30 <Faskalia> like, FAST Aug 06 16:59:32 <Isamil> fenix can Aug 06 16:59:38 <Faskalia> do IT Aug 06 16:59:38 <Eternaly_Lost> wow, my clock is exactly matching that. Aug 06 16:59:45 <Faskalia> 2 mins Aug 06 16:59:56 <Isamil> 1 min 20s actually Aug 06 16:59:58 <Isamil> on time.gov Aug 06 17:00:05 <TheFeniX_Work> I may need to, this is insane. Is this scripted between isamil and PKer? Aug 06 17:00:18 <Faskalia> the goverment has no right to tell me what time it is Aug 06 17:00:19 <TheFeniX_Work> did you guys PM this little discussion between yourselfs to make this look like it was real? Aug 06 17:00:20 <Isamil> no? Aug 06 17:00:24 <Planetkiller> fenix - eh? Aug 06 17:00:28 <Eternaly_Lost> less then 1 min Aug 06 17:00:35 <Isamil> 35 s! Aug 06 17:00:38 <Faskalia> FENIX JUST TAKE YOUR TJO VOTE BACK Aug 06 17:00:50 <Isamil> rather bloodthirsty here Aug 06 17:00:56 <semi> chaos! loud noises! Aug 06 17:01:05 <Planetkiller> Fask, why the bloodlust? Aug 06 17:01:16 <Thansal> KILL!!!!! Aug 06 17:01:21 <Isamil> hey look Aug 06 17:01:26 <Isamil> fask voted for planet Aug 06 17:01:28 <Faskalia> cause me got gutfeeling backed up with new hunches Aug 06 17:01:29 <Isamil> and time is up Aug 06 17:01:33 <Faskalia> :( Aug 06 17:01:37 <Faskalia> did fenix make it? Aug 06 17:01:50 <Planetkiller> I'm bloody ensuring it Aug 06 17:01:53 <Isamil> but um Aug 06 17:01:56 <Isamil> let me count this Aug 06 17:02:02 <Eternaly_Lost> eh Aug 06 17:02:07 <EMPDemon> -NIGHT- Aug 06 17:02:07 <Faskalia> pk also voted for tjo? Aug 06 17:02:13 * Eternaly_Lost_Desktop (~s2r22@dslutz.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #ns-twg Aug 06 17:02:13 * ChanServ gives voice to Eternaly_Lost_Desktop Aug 06 17:02:14 <semi> yeah, pk got his vote in Aug 06 17:02:19 <Planetkiller> I do not want to die for no purpose Aug 06 17:02:24 <Isamil> I didn't see PK's vote so I asume it came after time.gov Aug 06 17:02:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> So who died? Aug 06 17:02:28 <Isamil> but emp seems to think it counts Aug 06 17:02:35 <Isamil> so that's good enough for me Aug 06 17:02:45 <Isamil> tjosan I believe? Aug 06 17:02:56 <semi> yes Aug 06 17:02:57 <Thansal> I think so Aug 06 17:03:07 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I think so too Aug 06 17:03:09 <Planetkiller> and now, the recriminations Aug 06 17:03:13 <Planetkiller> wtf was that about? Aug 06 17:03:21 <Faskalia> ok, my 2 new top wolves: still isamil dumm dumm dumm PK Aug 06 17:03:30 <Planetkiller> why?! Aug 06 17:03:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> wow, 3 votes in the last 5 mins Aug 06 17:03:45 <TheFeniX_Work> seriously, could PKer, Faskalia, and isamil have cut it any closer? Yea, this is far from over. This last minute crap doesn't cut it. Aug 06 17:03:59 <Isamil> it is very fun though Aug 06 17:04:02 <Isamil> my headache is gone Aug 06 17:04:02 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Not realy much closer Aug 06 17:04:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> It is a stress headace Aug 06 17:04:38 <Thansal> lol Aug 06 17:04:43 <Isamil> no Aug 06 17:04:46 <Thansal> I need to include TIMES with my spread sheet Aug 06 17:04:49 <Isamil> I was not stressed out at all earlier Aug 06 17:04:50 <TheFeniX_Work> I think there had better be some major explaining going on here. Aug 06 17:04:55 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Yes so that Thansal Aug 06 17:04:58 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> do* Aug 06 17:04:58 <Isamil> rather disinterested actually Aug 06 17:05:14 <Planetkiller> I believe I've explained myself Aug 06 17:05:35 <Planetkiller> I want to know why Fask was so intent on killing me Aug 06 17:05:41 <Thansal> indeed Aug 06 17:05:43 <TheFeniX_Work> and isamil for that matter. Aug 06 17:05:44 <Isamil> I'd also like to know that Aug 06 17:05:56 <EMPDemon> !topic It is now Night 3, no posting. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/24rbm4" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/24rbm4</a> Night three ends Tuesday, August 7th at 5 PM EST Aug 06 17:05:57 * ChanServ has changed the topic to: It is now Night 3, no posting. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/24rbm4" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/24rbm4</a> Night three ends Tuesday, August 7th at 5 PM EST Aug 06 17:06:17 <Isamil> Planetkillet? Aug 06 17:06:22 <Isamil> that's 3 spellings so far Aug 06 17:06:24 <Planetkiller> heh Aug 06 17:06:31 <Planetkiller> I'm the new Thensal Aug 06 17:06:35 <theslan-work> >.< Aug 06 17:06:41 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> it getting worse then Thelan Aug 06 17:06:51 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> thesal Aug 06 17:06:54 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> whoever Aug 06 17:07:15 * Thansal breaks out the slapping rod and looks sternly at Eternaly Lost Aug 06 17:07:22 <Faskalia> ok my reasons: i was sure about isamil from day 1. tjo was an attempt to get a bandwagon going. then isamil did that strange made up quickchange vote from PK to SP and then SP brings in a survival vote against tjo, but PK brings in another vote against TJP. Talk about wolfish! Aug 06 17:07:51 <Planetkiller> eh? Aug 06 17:07:55 <Planetkiller> living is wolfish? Aug 06 17:08:07 <TheFeniX_Work> you want isamil dead, yet vote for planetkiller? Aug 06 17:08:12 <Planetkiller> you voted for me randomly! Aug 06 17:09:17 <Faskalia> why should i risk looking like an ###### (i gueess this will get me killed tonight or lynched tomorrow) witheout reason? Aug 06 17:09:18 <Thansal> ok
Nothing was "scripted", contrary to popular belief. PK's response satisfied me and I decided semi was a better target. All worked out in the end. Anyways, I still haven't gotten an explanation for why <b>Faskalia</b> is sure I'm a wolf. I feel justified in this considering he's been metaphorically holding up Kill Isamil signs.
The reason I voted for PK was, as i explained in IRC that Isamil is imho a wolf and put a last minute vote on PK, just to take it back the next moment. Either this is a clever use or it was a scripted wolf even to make PK look like a safe human. This made him also a more likely suspect than tjo (hence the vote] I think it is also notable that PK voted on tjo rather late. If he had seen my vote it would have been understandable from a survival POV but imho it was just a part of the scripted wolf votes.
Oh: And WTH is wrong with the no killing tonight? Do wolves want us to gang up on idle players?
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
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The wolves DID target some one last night (they have to), just the guardian targeted the right person also....
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Correct. And according to a message I received (From a player, not the host), it was me. Obviously, the sender claims to be the Guardian, of course I have no way to be sure. I debated whether to post this, but I figured I'm not helping anyone by sitting around doing nothing.
So either I was the wolf target, the person messaging me is lying (Perhaps one of the wolves who tried to kill me), or something more confusing... Heh.
Whether or not the Guardian who contacted me is real, if I really was the wolf target, I must have struck a nerve with one of my posts. Either that, or I'm on completely the wrong track, and they wanted to add weight to my logic by confirming me as a human.
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Tjosan is voting "randomly" based on a bunch of "hunches" he has. Ok..... How does this help us? Really, it's not sparking a response out of anyone because he's going to change his vote not a few hours later. Even if he's human, I don't view his behavior is beneficial to us.
Further, he's the one that pointed out how my logic on semipsychotic could be construed that Semi is not a wolf, but merely a role. So, why is Semi still alive?
Now, here's a counter-point to my own claim: im_lost was a perfect wolf target. His voting got an inactive lynched, so there's nothing to go off of there. He was fairly quiet (as in not calling anyone out blatantly) and then came through with the voting log for the first day. He's also a very experienced player. So, they nail im_lost because semi may be better left for another time.
So, tjosan: if you're not a wolf, calm down. You're being way to much of a wildcard, and it's just not helping us.
So, tjosan: if you're not a wolf, calm down. You're being way to much of a wildcard, and it's just not helping us.
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I would go as far to say that he is honestly harming us.
I'm too lazy to check the rules thread right now, since I only have a few minutes before I have to get ready for work, but we've never counted votes if they're inside quote blocks, so tjo isn't voting for himself.
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After having recently created the new rules thread, I can say for sure that this is the case.
(Sorry for posting while dead, but I figured it was worth it for the rules clarification.)
I wish Isamil would actually say more of why Thansal is wolfish. Maybe I don't see it, but nothing seems to stand out to me.
I would like to vote on Ana again, but at this point, it does seem useless, with only 5 hours or so left for the day.
My vote will have to be on <b>Thansal</b> at this point, since he seems to like to bring up my blood pressure in the previous day.
Current votes:
tjosan (3) - Comprox, TheFenix, Nightstalker
Isamil (3) - Faskalia, tjosan, Planetkiller
Thansal (2) - Eternaly_Lost, Theslan
semipsychotic (1) - Thansal
yet to vote:
Isamil
semipsychotic
Xentor
Ana
Tjosan - The edit vote doesn't count, despite if it's bolded. However, it's EMP's call on that.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> [2007-08-05 18:09:53] <@Isamil> hi
[2007-08-05 18:10:00] <@Isamil> I'm home now
[2007-08-05 18:10:18] <+Thansal> yay!
[2007-08-05 18:10:19] <@Isamil> seem to have become quite popular
[2007-08-05 18:10:29] <+Thansal> so, what did I do that was wolfish? (aside from vote for you <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)
[2007-08-05 18:11:05] <@Isamil> hmmm
[2007-08-05 18:11:42] <@Isamil> it's a gramatical thing
[2007-08-05 18:11:55] <+Thansal> ?
[2007-08-05 18:12:23] <@Isamil> if I have nothing to go on I read people's posts and decide, based on the way they're talking, who is most likely to be a wolf
[2007-08-05 18:12:35] <@Isamil> gramatical is probably the wrong word
[2007-08-05 18:12:46] <+Thansal> probably
[2007-08-05 18:13:05] <+Thansal> is it word choice? or simply the way I am talking?
[2007-08-05 18:13:09] <+Thansal> either way, good enough reasoning
[2007-08-05 18:13:20] <+Thansal> however bah on you for ploping a 4th vote on me head then poofing <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
[2007-08-05 18:14:23] *** Eternaly_Lost (~s2r2@dslutz.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined
[2007-08-05 18:14:23] *** ChanServ sets channel #ns-twg mode +v Eternaly_Lost
[2007-08-05 18:16:20] <@Isamil> syntactical might be closer
[2007-08-05 18:16:40] <@Isamil> still not really what I want
[2007-08-05 18:17:37] <@Isamil> for example, I voted for e_lost last game because he sounded too carful in his posts
[2007-08-05 18:17:45] <+Thansal> ahh, mkay
[2007-08-05 18:17:50] <+Thansal> basicly I looked wolfish
[2007-08-05 18:17:55] <+Thansal> nuff said <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
[2007-08-05 18:19:07] <@Isamil> tjosan wouldn't like that acording to the thread
[2007-08-05 18:19:10] <@Isamil> "I only undermine players with obviously poor reasoning behind the votes. I'd accept random votes, or votes following a plan or some sort of decent reasoning. I won't accept votes based on "hunches"."
[2007-08-05 18:25:11] <+Thansal> yah
[2007-08-05 18:25:14] <+Thansal> hunches are good tbh
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he felt like my posting was wolfish. I can understand that as it basically is just a gut feeling that you can't really explain.
IF you want more out of him, bug him your self <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
addendum:
that was all public conversation.
Isamil: Very wolfish vote at the beginning, with the perfect excuse to not have to explain it or change it. In other words, "Oops, I didn't realize I lynched him. Sorry, I wasn't around to fix it"... Now, if this was intentional, chances are it was done to protect <i>semipsychotic</i>, who was tied for three votes at the time. A wolf saving another wolf, or just a random vote that backfired?
tjosan: Honestly, my gut instinct says he's an indecisive newbie. He throws his vote all over the place on random hunches. Of course, I've been fooled by newbies before, and it may just be a little reverse-psychology from a newbie trying a trick no one would suspect. "No wolf would make a post like this, so I can't possibly be a wolf! *bark* Err, sorry, that was a burp."
Thansal: Got thrown into the spotlight, and was forced to defend himself. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see the reason for the bandwagon.
Faskalia: Took sides against both Isamil and tjosan, and has shifted his vote, but has stayed under the radar. I don't like it.
Planetkiller: Came up with the not-quite-so-random plan at the beginning. A legitimate strategy to force people to talk, or just him noticing that none of the wolves had votes, and wanting a way to avoid randomly losing a teammate? Of course, if we go with the latter, we vindicate Isamil, Theslan, and Thansal, while incriminating PK and Fask.
As always, I post a lot of my thought process, and somehow come to a conclusion, hoping I'm making sense with myself... Hmm, that sounded odd. So in short, my best guesses at wolves are either PK and Fask, or tjo and Isamil and semipsychotic. Sure, I don't have much information yet, but something's better than nothing.
For now, let's drop one on <b>Planetkiller</b>, to see if he has anything to say about that.
(Note that I may not be able to check this again before the day ends - I'm at work, and the day ends before I go home. I'll try to check it a few more times, but won't have time for long replies)
I'll vote for <b>TheFeniX</b> for now, with no particular reason other than that he talks a weird talk. I don't really want to see him lynched, though, just putting my vote somewhere so I can get a haircut.
Isamil: Very wolfish vote at the beginning, with the perfect excuse to not have to explain it or change it. In other words, "Oops, I didn't realize I lynched him. Sorry, I wasn't around to fix it"... Now, if this was intentional, chances are it was done to protect <i>semipsychotic</i>, who was tied for three votes at the time. A wolf saving another wolf, or just a random vote that backfired?
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I will point out one thing about Semi that I have been thinking about.
He keeps on getting his fat pulled out of the pan. When ever people start voting for him, reasons show up to switch votes (or people just switch). IT could be that he is a seer and Isamil was checked by him night 1 and was saving his but by possibly sacrificing himself. It is also possible that Isamil, semi, tjo and some one else are wolves and where working on the chaos created.
TBH, I don't really know what to think.
However I will say that Xentor has some good thoughts about Planetkiller, and it would be nice to hear from him.
After having recently created the new rules thread, I can say for sure that this is the case.
(Sorry for posting while dead, but I figured it was worth it for the rules clarification.)
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From my understanding of the ruling, it is in the context of the post that matter if it counts as a vote or not.
because he did not say something that indicated that was his vote, it would not be a vote, because it was quoted from another person.
I might gather the nerve to vote tjo later, though, depending on what happens.
tjosan ( 3 ) - Comprox, TheFenix, Nightstalker
Isamil ( 3 ) - Faskalia, tjosan, Planetkiller
Thansal ( 2 ) - Eternaly_Lost, Theslan
Planterkiller ( 2 ) - Xentor, semipsychotic
semipsychotic ( 1 ) - Thansal
yet to vote:
Isamil
Ana
Tjosan - The edit vote doesn't count, despite if it's bolded. However, it's EMP's call on that
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Q: What are the specific rules on voting? When, if ever, do bold names inside of quote tags count as an actual vote? Always, never, or when common sense says they should?
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That's what the FAQ says, and that's what I'm sticking with.
One thing I noticed though was im_lost's day one plan. semipsychotic changed his/her vote the most out of everyone, and that gave a few warning signs right away for me. It's possible that semi was just trying to protect him/herself, but I also wonder if there was a possiblility of lack of communication between the wolves. Either that or semi is swayed easliy..
A bit of me wonders of the possibility that semi had talked to one wolf, got suggested who to vote for, voted, talked to someone else and realized how wolfish that might seem, changed his/her vote, talked to yet another person, changed votes again, talked to a wolf, etc. I know it's unlikely and just as possible as uh, just trying to protect yourself in the beginning? Then again, if he/she's a human, semi might possibly be trying to find a side to be on while keeping his/her head.
Because people are pushing me to vote for obvious reasons, and because I don't want to think anymore right now, I'm going to stick with this hunch since I have no others. ._.
<b>semipsychotic</b>
tjosan ( 3 ) - Comprox, TheFenix, Nightstalker
Isamil ( 3 ) - Faskalia, tjosan, Planetkiller
Thansal ( 2 ) - Eternaly_Lost, Theslan
Planterkiller ( 2 ) - Xentor, semipsychotic
semipsychotic ( 2 ) - Thansal, Ana
yet to vote:
Isamil
Tjosan
Tjosan is repeated twice here, so ignore the 'hasn't voted' part. All that is left is Isamil.
This may not be the perfect time to make an accusation (or even a pointed statement), but I'll say it: it's odd that Fenix and Ana should have the same story on me despite its obvious inaccuracy. I won't change my vote yet, but it's something to think about.
Current votes:
tjosan ( 3 ) - Comprox, TheFenix, Nightstalker
Isamil ( 3 ) - Faskalia, tjosan, Planetkiller
Thansal ( 2 ) - Eternaly_Lost, Theslan
Planterkiller ( 2 ) - Xentor, semipsychotic
semipsychotic ( 2 ) - Thansal, Ana
yet to vote:
Isamil
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Correct vote table, it was confusing to many peoples.
Now boarding at kill <b>semipsychotic</b> station.
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The group traveled for a good deal of the night. Despite the loss of im_lost, the group decided to keep moving. <b>Xentor</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> appeared to have resolved some difference between them, and were taking point for the rest of the group.
Behind them was <b>Nightstalker</b>, in his human form, though it made little difference which form he was in. At the very back was <b>Planetkiller</b>, <b>tjosan</b>, <b>Thansal</b>, and <b>Faskalia</b>. Everyone else was in between the two groups, either keeping a look out for potential threats or, in other cases, such as <b>Ana</b>'s, just keeping their mind on walking.
<b>Ana</b> was running a heated debate with herself. She knew that she couldn't entirely trust the other members of the group, and she also knew that nobody really was trusting anyone else... She wondered if she could just come clean, help the group together..
But then, im_lost's words were repeating to her... "<i>Would you be entirely honest about what <u>we</u> were doing before we got here? Infiltrating a last hope of free countries to make way for an omnipotent dark lord?</i>" No... she would have to stay quiet for now...
However, behind them, almost out of sight, was a group of soldiers from the village. They had a wagon for transportation, but were smart enough to stay out of the group's hearing range. One of the soldiers, however, had one of the relics from the forest fire, in the hopes that it would expose a vulnerability to the evil group.
In one soldier's hands was the_x5's grenade launcher...
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The group, having walked south for a few hours, found themselves on a stone bridge overlooking a large ravine. At the bottom of the ravine was a raging river, winding its way into an ocean which could be seen in the distance, to the west.
However, one problem remained: staggered along the bridge were stone barricades, each taking up a third of the bridge's width. Whether they were part of the bridge's design, if they had been added due to some previous war, or if they were brand new, they couldn't tell.
The wagon group in the back, however, assumed the third option, and moved into position to attack. Meanwhile, <b>Xentor</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> both led their group around, using their superior senses to listen for anyone lurking behind any of the barricades.
Their plans were demolished when the back part of the group was nearly blown up...
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"What <i>was</i> that?" <b>Thansal</b> wondered in confusion, "It nearly blew us up!"
"Ugh, I thought that incompetent marine would have stopped getting in the way after he died..." <b>Planetkiller</b> mumbled, more annoyed than anything else.
<b>tjosan</b>, in contrast, looked pissed. "What are you <i>talking</i> about?"
<b>Planetkiller</b> sighed, and explained, "the_x5 had multiple 'tools' that he kept offering to 'speed us up', despite that most of them would have resulted in either our injuries or our deaths. Right there was one of them, his grenade launcher.
<b>Faskalia</b> stared at <b>Planetkiller</b> with a hint of fear in his eyes, "A <i>GRENADE LAUNCHER</i>?!" By now, the four of them had huddled behind a barricade, trying to figure out what to do...
Meanwhile, <b>Theslan</b> and <b>semipsychotic</b> had their own idea. "You've got to go on ahead," <b>Theslan</b> urged the two aliens and <b>Nightstalker</b>, "It's definitely dangerous ahead and if they have reinforcements at the other end, we're screwed."
"Let us handle the area between here and the other end." <b>semipsychotic</b> already had a plan for this, but didn't inform the others of it. The three nonhumans started making their way to the other end, not caring what they were passing...
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"I still don't think this is such a great idea," <b>Comprox</b> muttered.
<b>TheFeniX</b> couldn't talk, as he was currently in another form. This form looked almost similar to <b>Xentor</b>, only it walked upright and had a much large jaw. In particular, this form was suited to hunting prey through obstacles, but only for a short distance.
He looked through the nearest barricade, and, seeing nothing, shook his oversized head toward <b>Comprox</b>. The two of them moved ahead, and, repeating the pattern, cleared the way for <b>Ana</b> and <b>Isamil</b>, as well as <b>Theslan</b> and <b>semipsychotic</b>.
They kept moving...
On the other end of the bridge, however, the group of four found themselves under heavy fire. The <b>Projectile Protection</b> spell was effective against rains of arrows, but it did absolutely nothing to stop the grenades. While the first few were misses, they gradually became more and more accurate. Were it not for the nanites within the_x5's grenade launcher, they would have run out of ammo long ago.
This was not a comforting thought to <b>Planetkiller</b> nor <b>Faskalia</b>, as the constant explosions were distracting enough to prevent the use of most spells. At the moment, they were taking cover behind the stone barricades. However, the grenades would repeatedly destroy the barricades, causing pebbles to fly in all directions, and the group to move back another barricade.
Then, <b>Faskalia</b> had an idea. Moving a few extra barricades back, he began to charge one of the most basic spells any wizard could use in combat - a <i>Fireball</i>. He waited for the other three to back up to his location, and then launched the <i>Fireball</i> right at the wagon, hoping to buy some time.
It did more than that, however. The soldier holding the grenade launcher shot another shot at the group at the same time the fireball was fired. The two of them intersected at the point where the first few grenades landed, causing a massive explosion...
Most of the wagon group was just barely fazed, but the soldier holding the grenade launcher accidentally fired a shot straight up...
More importantly, the explosion took place right on the bridge where the first few shots hit. The additional stress on the bridge caused it to crack and start to fall. Everyone else, by this point, had reached the end of the bridge without encountering resistance, but now <b>tjosan</b>'s group was now in danger of falling into the river below.
The soldiers, however, knew that both of the wizards were able to teleport, and quickly began to aim shots toward the group still on the bridge. <b>Faskalia</b> quickly grabbed <b>Thansal</b>'s hand, and <b>Planetkiller</b> reached for <b>tjosan</b>'s hand. By now, the bridge was starting to fall off on the other end, too, and the four of them were easily vulnerable to arrow fire...
However, many of the archers were inexperienced, mostly used to hunting unsuspecting animals at a much lower range. However, one soldier was bound to hit something, and one did. <b>Planetkiller</b> felt his grip on <b>tjosan</b> suddenly let go, an arrow having hit him in the forearm just as he and <b>Faskalia</b> teleported...
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"What happened?" <b>Thansal</b> saw the arrow's damage, and continued, "Where's <b>tjosan</b>?"
<b>Planetkiller</b> looked over to the other side of the ravine. The first thing that had caught his eye was the impact of the grenade behind the group of soldiers, sending many of them flying off the cliff. Looking down, the wizard could see a small body still attached to the falling bridge. A sudden impact on the bridge, from the narrowing ravine, sent that body flying, into a wall, bouncing off into the river.
"He... <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->tjosan<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>'s dead."
A few hours of travel later, the group decided to rest for the night. They were on their guard, but once again they needn't have worried. The grenade force wouldn't have been discovered for a few days, and it would take another few to reach the port city, much less have a group sent from there to chase after what would be known as the greatest threat in their history.
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Meanwhile, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, was once again following its prey. It had to go around the ravine the long way, but no matter. It was restless... and it was strong once more.
Making itself invisible and using a <i>Silence Alpha</i> spell lifted from im_lost's repertoire, it pursued its prey once again...
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<b><u>Surviving Players</b></u>
1. Theslan
2. Eternaly_Lost
3. Thansal
4. Comprox
5. Faskalia
6. TheFeniX
7. Isamil
8. Nightstalker
9. semipsychotic
10. Xentor
11. Ana
12. Planetkiller
Wolves, odd seer, and guardian (if alive) should PM me, and the psychic (if alive) will receive their PM shortly.
Night Three will end Tuesday, August 7th, at 5 PM EST.
Edit: Night Three story up, but don't expect the Day Three story until Wednesday.
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The group sat around their campfire, near a hole in the ground that looked like it could be a cave. A few loud growls prevented anyone from wanting to go in further, although they realized that they could use it as a chokepoint, as no sane person would want to follow <i>them</i> inside.
Of course, only one person was actually awake at the moment, <b>Nightstalker</b>, since he didn't need sleep. He was mainly looking forward to see if reinforcements would come from the village to the south. It was a similar size, almost a carbon copy of the previous village. However, he was also watching on the other paths in case the village before tried to send another attack force.
Meanwhile, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> finally tracked them to their location, and, turning invisible and silent once again, approached from the side <b>Nightstalker</b> wasn't watching from...
<b>Nightstalker</b> was almost robotically turning in each direction though, seeming to not want to keep looking in one direction for very long. He looked around, right past the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, and paused. Did he just see something?
He turned back toward where the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> had held still, waiting to see if it had been noticed. However, <b>Nightstalker</b> did indeed see something. While the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> was invisible, it certainly did occupy space. Quickly shifting into his creature form, <b>Nightstalker</b> rushed at the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, attempting to get a first hit in before his target realized he was under attack.
<b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> dodged the first hit however, and purged his invisibility so that it could perform a bit better. It then responded with a flurry of lightning-fast strikes that seemed to bounce off <b>Nightstalker</b> as the latter responded with a swing attack that the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> barely avoided with a quick jump back.
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The impacts around were starting to wake up the group. While <b>Faskalia</b> and <b>Planetkiller</b> hadn't prepared any spells yet, and neither <b>Comprox</b> nor <b>TheFeniX</b>, back in his human form, wanted to shoot, as they might hit <b>Nightstalker</b> in the process.
<b>Ana</b>, on the other hand, whose spells had more of a spontaneous nature, like im_lost's, started casting loudly, "<i>Beta Fire! Alpha Bolt! Gamma Ice!</i>"
Unfortunately for <b>Ana</b>, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> possessed im_lost's knowledge as well as his spell arsenal, and was able to counter each of <b>Ana</b>'s spells with their counterparts easily. Unfortunately for the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->, however, <b>Thansal</b> had taken the opportunity to re-assume his werewolf form; while it wasn't the full moon, it was still close enough to it to take on the form but still be able to control it.
The distraction caused by <b>Ana</b>'s spells was more than enough for <b>Thansal</b> to grab the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> by its legs and toss it up into the air...
...so that <b>Nightstalker</b> could strike the oddity, launching it all the way into the ravine which had just lost its stone bridge.
Sighing, everyone went back to sleep except for <b>Xentor</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>, who took over from the sleepless, yet still exhausted, <b>Nightstalker</b>.
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The <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> slowly started to drift downstream. While it hadn't taken as much damage as that explosion a few nights ago, it was indeed hurt.
Unfortunately for almost everyone else, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> came across a body stuck on a rock, prevented from drifting further downstream. Near it was a cave, on the ravine wall which was closer to its prey.
Grabbing the body, it made a short leap to the cave's entrance. Once there, it consumed its meal without ceremony. Sensing that the cave would bring it to its prey, the <b><!--coloro:#FFFF33--><span style="color:#FFFF33"><!--/coloro-->Stalker</b><!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> transformed into its new weresnake form and began to follow the cave, digging a new path for itself when applicable...
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<b><u>Surviving Players</b></u>
1. Theslan
2. Eternaly_Lost
3. Thansal
4. Comprox
5. Faskalia
6. TheFeniX
7. Isamil
8. Nightstalker
9. semipsychotic
10. Xentor
11. Ana
12. Planetkiller
No death. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":0" border="0" alt="wow.gif" />
As nobody has phantoms, the instalynch count is at 7.
Day Three will end Thursday, August 9th, at 6 PM EST.
so, let us start this off.
<b>Faskalia</b>
Explain your final vote!
In fact, we're getting a lot of these quick "Hi! I vote for xxxxx! Bye!" posts... This needs to change. The time for random votes is over. That's perfectly reasonable on day one, but you've had time to see people post, and to put pieces together. If you're going to vote, state your reasoning.
Aug 06 16:04:44 <semi> hmm, isamil is viewing the thread now
Aug 06 16:04:49 <Isamil> correct
Aug 06 16:05:02 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and I bet he going to vote
Aug 06 16:05:04 <semi> we are intrigued
Aug 06 16:05:04 <EMPDemon> Post 77, E_Lost
Aug 06 16:05:16 <theslan-work> Elost, tjo voted for Faskalia, then Isamil.
Aug 06 16:05:50 <Thansal> so as not to look like a wolf when I do it
Aug 06 16:05:54 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> oh, then how did he get missed on the latter vote tables?
Aug 06 16:05:55 <Thansal> I feel like keeping the votes as if
Aug 06 16:06:11 <Thansal> if anything changes I (and probably Theslan) will change our votes to rebalance them
Aug 06 16:06:21 <Thansal> so it takes mroe then 1 person to change how theye are currently
Aug 06 16:06:36 <TheFeniX_Work> Fenix accused me of the same thing earlier, and it's still not true.
Aug 06 16:06:39 <TheFeniX_Work> the differnece between Ana and I is that I corrected myself in IRC.
Aug 06 16:06:48 <TheFeniX_Work> er, needed quotes for the first part.
Aug 06 16:07:20 <TheFeniX_Work> Isamil's like "OMG EVERYONE IS WATCHING ME!"
Aug 06 16:07:32 * semi shuffles through logs
Aug 06 16:07:36 <TheFeniX_Work> vote for EmpDemon, this is all his fault.
Aug 06 16:07:52 * lolfighter (~lolfighte@lolfighter.user.gamesurge) has joined #ns-twg
Aug 06 16:07:52 <ChanServ> [lolfighter] Paplaksnes
Aug 06 16:07:58 * EMPDemon casts Vote Reflect on self
Aug 06 16:08:50 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> is Thansal's updated im_lost's speadsheet up to date?
Aug 06 16:08:54 <Thansal> yus
Aug 06 16:09:01 <Thansal> it had errors for a bit
Aug 06 16:09:03 <Thansal> b/c I was a spaz
Aug 06 16:09:07 <Thansal> but everything is right now
Aug 06 16:09:58 <TheFeniX_Work> [2007-08-03 15:09:47] <+semi> and no, I haven't been chaging votes all over the place; x5 is only my second vote
Aug 06 16:09:58 <TheFeniX_Work> [2007-08-03 15:10:44] <+semi> I suggested the crazy vote game then backed away from it after a) thansal's post and b) realizing that there would be too much static to read anything from it
Aug 06 16:09:58 <TheFeniX_Work> [2007-08-03 15:10:47] <+TheFeniX_Work> you're right. I was thinking of tso
Aug 06 16:10:36 <semi> oh, whoops, I was thinking of some other discussion then
Aug 06 16:10:39 <semi> sure enough
Aug 06 16:10:46 <theslan-work> ...
Aug 06 16:10:52 <TheFeniX_Work> I immediately own up to mistakes like that (and I expect people to point them out) because even I need accurate information to go off of.
Aug 06 16:11:00 <theslan-work> That's two people who had made the error Semi-->Tjo
Aug 06 16:11:06 <semi> well, let it be known that I don't suspect you for that, but for Ana to do the same is a little weird
Aug 06 16:11:15 <theslan-work> And nobody has made the error Theslan-->Thansal-->Theslan yet.
Aug 06 16:11:18 <TheFeniX_Work> Ana mat have read my post, but not seen the IRC chat log.
Aug 06 16:11:35 <Thansal> thes, yet.
Aug 06 16:13:09 <Faskalia> hmm, so isamil could just free himself by voting tjo?
Aug 06 16:13:15 <Thansal> 10 people watchign the thread
Aug 06 16:13:24 <Thansal> fas, no
Aug 06 16:13:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and to see what Isamil does
Aug 06 16:13:33 <Thansal> as we would probably all tackle him
Aug 06 16:13:58 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well 9 + isamil
Aug 06 16:14:04 <Faskalia> ??? Why, to me they are both my most likely wolf suspects
Aug 06 16:14:05 <Planetkiller> he's probably going to wait until the last second then
Aug 06 16:14:39 <Faskalia> nope he isnt going to do it, because they are both wolves :P instead he will get another person to get 3 votes
Aug 06 16:14:45 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and vote for tjo, to make sure he lives, or vote for thansal and force another 3 way tie
Aug 06 16:14:59 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> or planet
Aug 06 16:15:10 <Faskalia> or semi
Aug 06 16:15:15 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> or semi
Aug 06 16:15:15 <TheFeniX_Work> if he's smart, he's just tie it up three ways.
Aug 06 16:15:16 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> yea
Aug 06 16:15:23 <TheFeniX_Work> so he doesn't look too suspicious.
Aug 06 16:15:39 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> If he give it to tjo, he looks suspicios without a good reason
Aug 06 16:15:45 <Faskalia> if he does i might shift to tjo
Aug 06 16:16:01 <Planetkiller> why would it be suspicious? If he wants to live...
Aug 06 16:16:14 <Isamil> I feel like I'm hiding in a corner and no one's noticed me
Aug 06 16:16:18 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> if he gives it to make a 3-way tie, he is less likely to die, then currently and look normal
Aug 06 16:16:19 <TheFeniX_Work> it's double edged at this point.
Aug 06 16:16:38 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> It late in the day, most people are in theroy not here to change there votes
Aug 06 16:16:41 <semi> well, right now we know that he knows that we know etc.
Aug 06 16:16:48 <semi> he accomplishes the same thing either method he uses
Aug 06 16:17:00 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> giving him a lot of power over who dies, or has a chance to go to the chopping block
Aug 06 16:17:17 <Faskalia> well i have a free day tomorrow, so i can wait and wait and wait...
Aug 06 16:17:48 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> it only 4 here, so it not to hard to wait
Aug 06 16:17:53 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well 4:16
Aug 06 16:18:10 <Faskalia> well, its 22:16 overe here ;)
Aug 06 16:18:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I need to pack and clean my room, but it not like I can't do that well watching
Aug 06 16:18:25 <TheFeniX_Work> isa, you did kind of let it get to this point through your own fault.
Aug 06 16:18:36 <TheFeniX_Work> you would have been better of explaining and voting much earlier.
Aug 06 16:18:46 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and the longer you wait, the harder we will be on you when you do vote
Aug 06 16:18:47 <Faskalia> especially voting
Aug 06 16:18:51 <semi> hey, maybe he's right where he wants to be
Aug 06 16:19:17 <Isamil> right now I feel like making a sandwhich. why are the days ending earlier this game
Aug 06 16:19:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> 50% chance of dieing + 100% of a phatom?
Aug 06 16:19:28 <semi> he does have scary amounts of control, admittedly at the chance of being lynched later for it
Aug 06 16:19:57 <Faskalia> nha, if he is a seer and he knows of a wolf whom he might get in reach with his vote
Aug 06 16:22:49 <Thansal> yah, but if he does that at this point, it looks 100% wolf
Aug 06 16:22:56 <Thansal> that is the problem with holding off this late
Aug 06 16:23:10 <Thansal> also, I am with Isamil on this one, the days need to end a bit latter
Aug 06 16:23:18 <Faskalia> well, but this early a dead wolf might be even more worth than a dead seer? or not??? <cunfused>
Aug 06 16:24:16 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I am not to sure that days need to end earlyer, after all, we do get like 10 people watching the end of the day now
Aug 06 16:24:22 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> later*
Aug 06 16:24:52 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well 1 is the host, and 1 is dead...
Aug 06 16:25:23 <theslan-work> host must be on the hotseat and random.org, ready to choose the lynch.
Aug 06 16:25:38 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> and so is isamil
Aug 06 16:26:56 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> theslan-work, I though you were going to get that machiene voiced...
Aug 06 16:27:19 <theslan-work> shhh.
Aug 06 16:27:27 <theslan-work> I forgot again.
Aug 06 16:27:28 * Thansal breaks out the slapping rod and looks sternly at Theslan
Aug 06 16:28:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Is isamil writing a novel for a post, or is he not going to post?
Aug 06 16:28:26 <Isamil> thinking
Aug 06 16:28:35 <Thansal> *ponderponder*
Aug 06 16:28:55 <EMPDemon> Yeah, there won't be a story right away since Planetkiller nuked it :<
Aug 06 16:28:57 <Isamil> not very fast unfortunantly. I have a headache too
Aug 06 16:29:24 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> take some asprin
Aug 06 16:29:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Why do we have a lot of people in this game with headaches?
Aug 06 16:29:38 <Isamil> perfer advil
Aug 06 16:29:49 <Isamil> well I have a reason
Aug 06 16:30:00 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> take some antiheadache medicne
Aug 06 16:30:03 <Faskalia> sounds like a perfect script for another mythbuster episode
Aug 06 16:30:23 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Are all anti headace meds a like?
Aug 06 16:30:31 <theslan-work> different chemicals.
Aug 06 16:30:32 <Faskalia> why do people sitting in front of the pc 24/7 often get hjeadaches :P
Aug 06 16:30:43 <TheFeniX_Work> heroine abuse?
Aug 06 16:30:55 <Isamil> heroin
Aug 06 16:30:55 <theslan-work> I used to get headaches look at CRT. LCD seems to like my eyes.
Aug 06 16:30:57 <Faskalia> nope, no heroine in asperine...
Aug 06 16:31:20 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I ofter get headaches, but i know the reason and are on medication for it, I get headaches from noise
Aug 06 16:31:36 <Faskalia> @theslan it might be the radiation... or even the HG ? dont know what it is in english :(
Aug 06 16:32:07 <theslan-work> Probably. The catotube or whatever maybe hurting my eyes.
Aug 06 16:32:15 <Faskalia> ding mercury, every CRT has mercury powder in it
Aug 06 16:32:18 <Thansal> catho ray
Aug 06 16:32:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I like CRT to LCD, they are easyer on my eyes
Aug 06 16:32:40 <Thansal> cathode*
Aug 06 16:32:59 <Isamil> you know, it would make sense for me to vote for tjosan. not doing so makes it look like we're both wolves
Aug 06 16:33:05 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Saidly it hard to find a good cheap large sized small area crt
Aug 06 16:33:33 <lolfighter> Do it Isamil! Do it!
Aug 06 16:33:53 <Thansal> quite from the peanut gallery
Aug 06 16:33:54 <Faskalia> just better vote soon, so i still have the chance to do some last minute backstabbing
Aug 06 16:34:01 * lolfighter sics Don Quixote on Isamil
Aug 06 16:34:02 <Isamil> you have an interest in my not surviving games
Aug 06 16:34:09 <Isamil> I'm not sure if I should take advice from you
Aug 06 16:34:30 <Faskalia> ok, then dont vote soon, instead wait till the last minute...
Aug 06 16:34:30 <lolfighter> Doesn't matter anymore. I stopped playing.
Aug 06 16:34:32 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> You know the later you vote, the worse it will be no matter who you vote for
Aug 06 16:34:51 <Thansal> he
Aug 06 16:35:01 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> More so becuase you did not come in last min and cast jsut before
Aug 06 16:35:05 <Thansal> we should jsut put a vote on isamil so he can't do last min stabing
Aug 06 16:35:29 <Isamil> personally I don't think that's a very good plan
Aug 06 16:35:34 <Faskalia> hmm, maybe if empdemon would grant me another vote?
Aug 06 16:35:45 <theslan-work> oooh.
Aug 06 16:35:48 <theslan-work> Now that's an artifact.
Aug 06 16:35:48 <Isamil> I'm sure I'll vote before 4:50
Aug 06 16:35:57 <theslan-work> double votes: your vote now counts for 2.
Aug 06 16:36:13 <Isamil> that's a Kill Me sign
Aug 06 16:36:18 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I had to be found in my game...
Aug 06 16:36:24 <theslan-work> well, it's only used once.
Aug 06 16:36:25 <Faskalia> yeah sure, but no mini game means no artifact or am i misinformed?
Aug 06 16:36:38 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Normaly no artifact
Aug 06 16:36:55 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> But the host can do it however he wants, say get x votes for you total and you get it
Aug 06 16:37:20 <Faskalia> can he cure my aids?
Aug 06 16:37:30 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> that would be kinda intresting, gain a extra vote, but you must get a total of 20 votes for you, and still be in the game
Aug 06 16:37:33 <Faskalia> or doesnt he just want to?
Aug 06 16:37:47 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> He limited to anything a computer can do
Aug 06 16:37:55 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Can your computer cure it?
Aug 06 16:37:59 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> If so, then he can
Aug 06 16:38:08 <Thansal> Mine can
Aug 06 16:38:15 <Faskalia> havent tried yet... maybe if i touch the CPU will it is running
Aug 06 16:38:15 <Thansal> but I am just awsome like that.
Aug 06 16:38:22 <Faskalia> it BUUURRRRNNNSSSS
Aug 06 16:38:28 <Thansal> it burns like hygene!
Aug 06 16:40:17 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> itunes is broken :(
Aug 06 16:40:56 <Faskalia> itunes never worked. the whole prog is just borked
Aug 06 16:41:07 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I starting to think that
Aug 06 16:41:15 <Thansal> so, 20 mins left
Aug 06 16:41:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Know any good free itunes alterinive programs to sync an ipod?
Aug 06 16:41:33 <Isamil> you know, in the vote chart, planetkiller is spelled planterkiller once
Aug 06 16:41:49 <TheFeniX_Work> yea, ebay: sell the ipod, buy something that doesn't suck
Aug 06 16:41:51 <Faskalia> for starters: you dont want to sync an ipod! its just stupid.
Aug 06 16:41:51 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I think I might have done that...
Aug 06 16:42:21 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I got the ipod becuase I wanted a portiable video player, work fine for a while
Aug 06 16:42:25 <semi> get some cheap little USB-based mp3 player
Aug 06 16:42:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Now it just broked
Aug 06 16:42:37 <Thansal> MP3 CD plaer FTW!
Aug 06 16:42:38 <semi> then windows explorer does your synch work
Aug 06 16:42:45 <Thansal> $20
Aug 06 16:42:46 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> usb mp3 players fo not play .mp4 files...
Aug 06 16:42:47 <Faskalia> evertyime you dont have your external HDD conected by accident the ipod is going to sncy with the non existant=empty folder and needs to be synced again
Aug 06 16:43:04 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> ah
Aug 06 16:43:11 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Never had that happen
Aug 06 16:43:25 <Faskalia> maybe because you store your music on the system partition?
Aug 06 16:43:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> well yea
Aug 06 16:43:40 <Thansal> lol, there is a guest viewing now
Aug 06 16:43:55 <Thansal> (never mind)
Aug 06 16:43:57 <Faskalia> he must be thinking that we are crazy
Aug 06 16:43:57 <semi> not any mor
Aug 06 16:44:05 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> my music collection is only 2 gb, most of what I store is videos on differnt hd, and that worked just fine..
Aug 06 16:44:40 <Faskalia> granted. as far as i know the ipod only autodeletes mp3s if it cannot find it on a the pc
Aug 06 16:45:07 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> did not happen with my videos at all
Aug 06 16:45:31 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> And it sync music just fine, IT WILL NOT READD MY VIDEOS TO THE LIST!
Aug 06 16:45:42 <Faskalia> which is actually quite funny, cause it disables music sharing between itunes users :P if you hook up your ipod to another itunes users pc its going to sync with the new pc deleting most of your files
Aug 06 16:45:56 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I only sync with one computer
Aug 06 16:46:21 <Faskalia> well i sncywith a NAS drive :P
Aug 06 16:46:24 <Isamil> hey look I voted
Aug 06 16:46:25 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> And maybe I get a zune next, hear anything bad with them?
Aug 06 16:46:48 <Faskalia> my brother has a zune is is quite satisfied
Aug 06 16:46:53 <Planetkiller> I'm truely tempted to save my own neck here
Aug 06 16:47:07 <Faskalia> but i cannot say anything further. i have never seen it, only heard of it
Aug 06 16:47:10 <Planetkiller> seeing as the votes against me have arrived for no reason that I can see...
Aug 06 16:47:34 <Isamil> you've already voted for me though
Aug 06 16:47:39 <Planetkiller> ah, true
Aug 06 16:47:42 <Thansal> he can vote for tjo
Aug 06 16:47:48 <Isamil> not that that factored into my decision
Aug 06 16:47:51 <Isamil> because I just noticed
Aug 06 16:48:05 <Planetkiller> heh, can't see why else you would, but that's a decent enough reason
Aug 06 16:48:09 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Yea, well my mom wanted to get an ipod, because tivo is letting you put shows onto it, and i was wondering if it would do the same with zune
Aug 06 16:48:15 <Planetkiller> still, the two others don't seem to make sense
Aug 06 16:48:22 <Planetkiller> so I may vote out tjosan
Aug 06 16:48:48 <Isamil> that would be your best option
Aug 06 16:48:55 <Faskalia> afaik you can just put any wmv and even mist avi formats on it. dont know about integrating custom codecs in the zune, though
Aug 06 16:48:55 <Planetkiller> anyone have an objection?
Aug 06 16:49:15 <Faskalia> yes, i want isamil to die
Aug 06 16:49:29 <Faskalia> and if you give to another vote he is safe
Aug 06 16:49:30 <Planetkiller> well, not much I can do about that
Aug 06 16:49:40 <Planetkiller> I'm already voting for him
Aug 06 16:49:49 <Isamil> I would have voted for you faskalia but you didn't have any votes on you
Aug 06 16:49:49 <Planetkiller> Thansal can help out if he chooses
Aug 06 16:49:55 <Faskalia> you could not change your vote for a start
Aug 06 16:50:06 <Planetkiller> but I want to live
Aug 06 16:50:17 <Faskalia> only 33%
Aug 06 16:50:23 <Planetkiller> and I know I'm human
Aug 06 16:50:31 <Planetkiller> the others are really suspicious
Aug 06 16:50:39 <Planetkiller> so I don't have a problem killing one of them
Aug 06 16:51:36 <Isamil> good enough reasoning
Aug 06 16:54:45 <Isamil> I think I'll change my vote
Aug 06 16:55:17 <Planetkiller> er... really?
Aug 06 16:55:29 <TheFeniX_Work> well, 8 minutes before day is over. That's kind of convenient.
Aug 06 16:55:29 <Isamil> yes
Aug 06 16:55:39 <Isamil> I liked your response
Aug 06 16:55:55 <Isamil> so I'm going with semipsychotic instead
Aug 06 16:55:57 <semi> aw, poop.
Aug 06 16:56:02 <Eternaly_Lost> ...
Aug 06 16:56:10 <Faskalia> wow---
Aug 06 16:56:14 <Eternaly_Lost> Appartly updating my ipod casued a BSD
Aug 06 16:56:25 <Isamil> who does currently have the option of killing me
Aug 06 16:56:30 <Faskalia> hmm emp, whats the official game time?
Aug 06 16:56:34 <Isamil> if he chooses
Aug 06 16:56:47 <Isamil> by forum time we have 8 miniutes left
Aug 06 16:57:06 <Eternaly_Lost> 7 mins
Aug 06 16:57:09 <Eternaly_Lost> but close enough
Aug 06 16:57:12 <Faskalia> good point, but i would like to hear from emp
Aug 06 16:57:13 <Isamil> 7 now
Aug 06 16:57:16 <Eternaly_Lost> Real time you have 5 mins
Aug 06 16:57:17 <EMPDemon> not forum time
Aug 06 16:57:23 <EMPDemon> ~4 minutes
Aug 06 16:57:27 <Eternaly_Lost> 4 now
Aug 06 16:57:28 <Faskalia> thx, so real it is: 4mins :P
Aug 06 16:57:34 <Isamil> why don't we use forum time?
Aug 06 16:57:38 <Eternaly_Lost> cause it slow
Aug 06 16:57:43 <Isamil> thought that was usually the standard here
Aug 06 16:57:46 <Eternaly_Lost> !ghostkill Eternaly_Lost_Desktop
Aug 06 16:57:50 <Eternaly_Lost> :(
Aug 06 16:57:52 <Faskalia> cause my time comes from a cs246 clock :P
Aug 06 16:58:07 * Eternaly_Lost_Desktop has quit (Ping timeout)
Aug 06 16:58:29 <Isamil> <a href="http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java" target="_blank">http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java</a>
Aug 06 16:58:33 <Isamil> we going with that?
Aug 06 16:58:43 <Isamil> 2min 30 sec than
Aug 06 16:59:04 <Thansal> tjo is at 4
Aug 06 16:59:09 <Faskalia> wow
Aug 06 16:59:17 <Faskalia> can someone take their tjo vote back?
Aug 06 16:59:30 <Faskalia> like, FAST
Aug 06 16:59:32 <Isamil> fenix can
Aug 06 16:59:38 <Faskalia> do IT
Aug 06 16:59:38 <Eternaly_Lost> wow, my clock is exactly matching that.
Aug 06 16:59:45 <Faskalia> 2 mins
Aug 06 16:59:56 <Isamil> 1 min 20s actually
Aug 06 16:59:58 <Isamil> on time.gov
Aug 06 17:00:05 <TheFeniX_Work> I may need to, this is insane. Is this scripted between isamil and PKer?
Aug 06 17:00:18 <Faskalia> the goverment has no right to tell me what time it is
Aug 06 17:00:19 <TheFeniX_Work> did you guys PM this little discussion between yourselfs to make this look like it was real?
Aug 06 17:00:20 <Isamil> no?
Aug 06 17:00:24 <Planetkiller> fenix - eh?
Aug 06 17:00:28 <Eternaly_Lost> less then 1 min
Aug 06 17:00:35 <Isamil> 35 s!
Aug 06 17:00:38 <Faskalia> FENIX JUST TAKE YOUR TJO VOTE BACK
Aug 06 17:00:50 <Isamil> rather bloodthirsty here
Aug 06 17:00:56 <semi> chaos! loud noises!
Aug 06 17:01:05 <Planetkiller> Fask, why the bloodlust?
Aug 06 17:01:16 <Thansal> KILL!!!!!
Aug 06 17:01:21 <Isamil> hey look
Aug 06 17:01:26 <Isamil> fask voted for planet
Aug 06 17:01:28 <Faskalia> cause me got gutfeeling backed up with new hunches
Aug 06 17:01:29 <Isamil> and time is up
Aug 06 17:01:33 <Faskalia> :(
Aug 06 17:01:37 <Faskalia> did fenix make it?
Aug 06 17:01:50 <Planetkiller> I'm bloody ensuring it
Aug 06 17:01:53 <Isamil> but um
Aug 06 17:01:56 <Isamil> let me count this
Aug 06 17:02:02 <Eternaly_Lost> eh
Aug 06 17:02:07 <EMPDemon> -NIGHT-
Aug 06 17:02:07 <Faskalia> pk also voted for tjo?
Aug 06 17:02:13 * Eternaly_Lost_Desktop (~s2r22@dslutz.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #ns-twg
Aug 06 17:02:13 * ChanServ gives voice to Eternaly_Lost_Desktop
Aug 06 17:02:14 <semi> yeah, pk got his vote in
Aug 06 17:02:19 <Planetkiller> I do not want to die for no purpose
Aug 06 17:02:24 <Isamil> I didn't see PK's vote so I asume it came after time.gov
Aug 06 17:02:27 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> So who died?
Aug 06 17:02:28 <Isamil> but emp seems to think it counts
Aug 06 17:02:35 <Isamil> so that's good enough for me
Aug 06 17:02:45 <Isamil> tjosan I believe?
Aug 06 17:02:56 <semi> yes
Aug 06 17:02:57 <Thansal> I think so
Aug 06 17:03:07 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> I think so too
Aug 06 17:03:09 <Planetkiller> and now, the recriminations
Aug 06 17:03:13 <Planetkiller> wtf was that about?
Aug 06 17:03:21 <Faskalia> ok, my 2 new top wolves: still isamil dumm dumm dumm PK
Aug 06 17:03:30 <Planetkiller> why?!
Aug 06 17:03:37 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> wow, 3 votes in the last 5 mins
Aug 06 17:03:45 <TheFeniX_Work> seriously, could PKer, Faskalia, and isamil have cut it any closer? Yea, this is far from over. This last minute crap doesn't cut it.
Aug 06 17:03:59 <Isamil> it is very fun though
Aug 06 17:04:02 <Isamil> my headache is gone
Aug 06 17:04:02 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Not realy much closer
Aug 06 17:04:19 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> It is a stress headace
Aug 06 17:04:38 <Thansal> lol
Aug 06 17:04:43 <Isamil> no
Aug 06 17:04:46 <Thansal> I need to include TIMES with my spread sheet
Aug 06 17:04:49 <Isamil> I was not stressed out at all earlier
Aug 06 17:04:50 <TheFeniX_Work> I think there had better be some major explaining going on here.
Aug 06 17:04:55 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> Yes so that Thansal
Aug 06 17:04:58 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> do*
Aug 06 17:04:58 <Isamil> rather disinterested actually
Aug 06 17:05:14 <Planetkiller> I believe I've explained myself
Aug 06 17:05:35 <Planetkiller> I want to know why Fask was so intent on killing me
Aug 06 17:05:41 <Thansal> indeed
Aug 06 17:05:43 <TheFeniX_Work> and isamil for that matter.
Aug 06 17:05:44 <Isamil> I'd also like to know that
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Aug 06 17:06:17 <Isamil> Planetkillet?
Aug 06 17:06:22 <Isamil> that's 3 spellings so far
Aug 06 17:06:24 <Planetkiller> heh
Aug 06 17:06:31 <Planetkiller> I'm the new Thensal
Aug 06 17:06:35 <theslan-work> >.<
Aug 06 17:06:41 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> it getting worse then Thelan
Aug 06 17:06:51 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> thesal
Aug 06 17:06:54 <Eternaly_Lost_Desktop> whoever
Aug 06 17:07:15 * Thansal breaks out the slapping rod and looks sternly at Eternaly Lost
Aug 06 17:07:22 <Faskalia> ok my reasons: i was sure about isamil from day 1. tjo was an attempt to get a bandwagon going. then isamil did that strange made up quickchange vote from PK to SP and then SP brings in a survival vote against tjo, but PK brings in another vote against TJP. Talk about wolfish!
Aug 06 17:07:51 <Planetkiller> eh?
Aug 06 17:07:55 <Planetkiller> living is wolfish?
Aug 06 17:08:07 <TheFeniX_Work> you want isamil dead, yet vote for planetkiller?
Aug 06 17:08:12 <Planetkiller> you voted for me randomly!
Aug 06 17:09:17 <Faskalia> why should i risk looking like an ###### (i gueess this will get me killed tonight or lynched tomorrow) witheout reason?
Aug 06 17:09:18 <Thansal> ok
Nothing was "scripted", contrary to popular belief. PK's response satisfied me and I decided semi was a better target. All worked out in the end.
Anyways, I still haven't gotten an explanation for why <b>Faskalia</b> is sure I'm a wolf. I feel justified in this considering he's been metaphorically holding up Kill Isamil signs.
The reason I voted for PK was, as i explained in IRC that Isamil is imho a wolf and put a last minute vote on PK, just to take it back the next moment. Either this is a clever use or it was a scripted wolf even to make PK look like a safe human. This made him also a more likely suspect than tjo (hence the vote] I think it is also notable that PK voted on tjo rather late. If he had seen my vote it would have been understandable from a survival POV but imho it was just a part of the scripted wolf votes.
Oh: And WTH is wrong with the no killing tonight? Do wolves want us to gang up on idle players?
Oh: And WTH is wrong with the no killing tonight? Do wolves want us to gang up on idle players?
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Confused here.
The wolves DID target some one last night (they have to), just the guardian targeted the right person also....
Confused here.
The wolves DID target some one last night (they have to), just the guardian targeted the right person also....
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Correct. And according to a message I received (From a player, not the host), it was me. Obviously, the sender claims to be the Guardian, of course I have no way to be sure. I debated whether to post this, but I figured I'm not helping anyone by sitting around doing nothing.
So either I was the wolf target, the person messaging me is lying (Perhaps one of the wolves who tried to kill me), or something more confusing... Heh.
Whether or not the Guardian who contacted me is real, if I really was the wolf target, I must have struck a nerve with one of my posts. Either that, or I'm on completely the wrong track, and they wanted to add weight to my logic by confirming me as a human.