NS2 ever going free? =D

KozaKKozaK Members Join Date: 2013-03-08 Member: 183811Posts: 13
Hi, guys!

What do you think about NS2 going free?

Something like TF2....

I wouldn't mind at all, i paid for the game, helped developers already, and i just want to keep playing with lots of people...

UnknowWorld guys concluded that they wont be getting much money from sells anymore ( thats what i understood from their last posts)

So, how about going F2P, plus giving the community something to buy and walk around the ready room in style???
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  • DraptorDraptor Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2013-03-05 Member: 183721Posts: 124
    They already said they're never going to do that.
  • KozaKKozaK Members Join Date: 2013-03-08 Member: 183811Posts: 13
    and what do you think about? would you mind?

    I think they said that becouse they think the community would look at it in a bad way...
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Posts: 2,838 admin
    edited September 2013
    Why the **** should NS2 be free. Come on it cost like 5 $. People not ready to pay that much for a game don't fit into the ns2 community anyway in my opinion.
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  • KozaKKozaK Members Join Date: 2013-03-08 Member: 183811Posts: 13
    Why the **** should NS2 be free. Come on it cost like 5 $. People not ready to pay that much for a game don't fit into the ns2 community anyway in my opinion.

    Why not?

  • ezekelezekel Members, NS2 Map Tester Join Date: 2012-11-29 Member: 173589Posts: 1,385 Advanced user
    edited September 2013
    KozaK wrote: »
    Why the **** should NS2 be free. Come on it cost like 5 $. People not ready to pay that much for a game don't fit into the ns2 community anyway in my opinion.

    Why not?

    -snip-

    Because
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Posts: 2,838 admin
    edited September 2013
    PPL who play F2P games have total different mentality than ppl who bought a game.
    Before you buy a game you inform yourself if you like the gameplay etc. . As NS2 has a high learning curve we need ppl ready to spent some time with the game, not ppl who just want to test it.
    We need ppl who are aware what ns2 is.

    In fact making NS2 F2P wouldn't help the community in any way it just would destroy it. Even the free wekends were a pain for many of us, having ppl on servers who had no interest in actuall learning the game.

    And everyone who is ready to play NS2 after informing himself is also ready to pay 5$.

    A game which is hard to access has no chance as F2P and so NS2 is no game meant to be F2P. Why do you think it would be a good idea to make it F2P ?
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  • KozaKKozaK Members Join Date: 2013-03-08 Member: 183811Posts: 13
    ezekel wrote: »
    KozaK wrote: »
    Why the **** should NS2 be free. Come on it cost like 5 $. People not ready to pay that much for a game don't fit into the ns2 community anyway in my opinion.

    Why not?

    -snip-

    Because

    Hey im just trying to help, i like the and i want more people to play it....
    We used to be in this rank: http://store.steampowered.com/stats
    Now we can't even find NS2 in this list.....
    But hey, look, the game you said sux becouse it's free is the second one most played....

    42,610 78,965 Team Fortress 2


    =/


  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Posts: 2,838 admin
    edited September 2013
    If you like more ppl to play it tell your friend about it etc. . You can get NS2 for 3 TF2 keys at tf2op.com (1 TF2 Key ~ max 2$ at Community Market).

    Making it F2P is the wrong way to go because of the reasons i pointed out. TF2 is less complex than NS2 also DOTA is easier to access and both are AAA-Titels who had a lot more promotion than ns2 will ever have.
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  • soccerguy243soccerguy243 Members, WC 2013 - Supporter Join Date: 2012-12-22 Member: 175920Posts: 515 Advanced user
  • KozaKKozaK Members Join Date: 2013-03-08 Member: 183811Posts: 13
    PPL who play F2P games have total different mentality than ppl who bought a game.
    Before you buy a game you inform yourself if you like the gameplay etc. . As NS2 has a high learning curve we need ppl ready to spent some time with the game, not ppl who just want to test it.
    We need ppl who are aware what ns2 is.

    In fact making NS2 F2P wouldn't help the community in any way it just would destroy it. Even the free wekends were a pain for many of us, having ppl on servers who had no interest in actuall learning the game.

    And everyone who is ready to play NS2 after informing himself is also ready to pay 5$.

    A game which is hard to access has no chance as F2P and so NS2 is no game meant to be F2P. Why do you think it would be a good idea to make it F2P ?

    the free weekends we had were kinda fail... at both the game perfomance were really really bad, many ppl just didn't buy the game becouse of that....

    problem is, how do we get these ppl back to try the game???
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Posts: 2,838 admin
    edited September 2013
    First step: Making NS2 more stable. Second step: Community promotion. First goal: peak of 2000. Imho 5$ are more than total fair for ns2.
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  • NarfwakNarfwak Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Posts: 3,785 admin
    We need a stable free weekend promotion. That would be a big boon. If we can get a rock solid build out before a free weekend we'd likely pick up a lot of new players.
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  • NedStarNedStar Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2013-08-30 Member: 187224Posts: 97
    Yeah the bad performance builds really did put a dent on possible players-base.
    When's the last time you played a game, noticed awful performance and came back at a later date? More often then not you find yourself completely forgetting about said game. If someone ever mentions it in the future, you'll think of it as: "that badly optimized game".

    Regarding F2P, I'd say no, simply because the over the top cosmetics from TF2 is the last thing I'd want in any game.
    And if you can't make money on hats, you'll have to make money on gear and then set some stupid xp unlock system that takes forever to grind through.

    Maybe at some point in the far future when the playerbase is fading away they can make it f2p but without any special unlocks. Simply free. Tie this in with the reinforcement program and you might have a possible source of in-come. Doubt this will happen though but it be an awesome gesture from UWE. That being said, they do need money to keep going and I doubt reinforcement program will outweigh the profit from steamdeals.
    On the other hand, making ns2 simply free to all users on steam would be a hell of a way to market your company and expand the user-base. Everyone has heard of, or more likely also played Enemy Territory.
    Could be a good way to market their new game in the future while giving an extra jolt of life in ns2.
  • Zomb3hZomb3h Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2011-01-27 Member: 79241Posts: 373
    KozaK wrote: »
    Hi, guys!
    i just want to keep playing with lots of new people...

    No you don't.
  • AurOn2AurOn2 COOKIES! FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS! AustraliaMembers, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff Join Date: 2012-01-13 Member: 140224Posts: 2,130 mod
    Free to play Will bring lots of people yeah, but lots of the wrong kinds of people. It's fine as it is.
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  • Cyanogen101Cyanogen101 AustraliaMembers, Reinforced - Supporter Join Date: 2013-10-01 Member: 188547Posts: 1
    It might go free, but maybe when it stops getting developed, maybe when NS3 comes out, lol
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    Free doesn't always suck, I've been playing Warframe which is a F2P title, loads of fun. You don't need to spend a time to keep up with the paying folks :)
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  • CCTEECCTEE Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2013-06-20 Member: 185634Posts: 772 Advanced user
    PPL who play F2P games have total different mentality than ppl who bought a game.

    Wasnt NS1 F2P? I never paid a cent for it, anyway.
    Lol

    grrrr im beast
  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Posts: 2,838 admin
    edited October 2013
    CCTEE wrote: »
    PPL who play F2P games have total different mentality than ppl who bought a game.

    Wasnt NS1 F2P? I never paid a cent for it, anyway.
    Lol

    NS1 was a mod, that is a different thing than a f2p titel. And pls don't quote me out of context.
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  • NazoNazo Such Is Life in The ZoneMembers, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold Join Date: 2010-12-16 Member: 75720Posts: 293 Fully active user
    edited October 2013
    Mods and F2P are two completely separate things

    Also you had to buy/own HL1 to play NS1

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  • iClearSkiesiClearSkies Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2012-09-22 Member: 160359Posts: 37 Advanced user
    NS1 was Free-to-Play but alot of it was in part of it being a mod and not actually a stand alone game. The NS2 Development was entirely STANDALONE (minus the first part were UWE attempted to use the source engine) and cost all the developers time and personal funds wich was in fact donated. The game itself I can never support going free-to-play because no matter how many people donate (my mind can change if we hit ther 550,000 goal) we can never pay them back for the painstaking hours and time away from their families. Making a game free-to-play in itself dosent mean that the game is now free and can get a new wave of players but the game going free tells the developers "Hey...thanks for spending your time on this great game and instead of getting paid for your hard work we want it all for free...THANKS!!!" I will always be a UWE donator and will always support money whenever they ask on a few seperate occasions because thats dedication. I waited 5 years before NS2 became a thing were I could actually play and faith made a huge role in it.

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  • SjNSjN Members, Reinforced - Supporter Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 11983Posts: 839
    They really need to drop the game's price in order to get more players. Or invest in advertisement... or something...

    The game feels so inactive with 800 players online.
    Love and play!
  • iClearSkiesiClearSkies Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2012-09-22 Member: 160359Posts: 37 Advanced user
    SjN wrote: »
    They really need to drop the game's price in order to get more players. Or invest in advertisement... or something...

    The game feels so inactive with 800 players online.

    $24.95 is NOT expensive especially since the new game sale curve is $55.00+
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    edited October 2013
    SjN wrote: »
    They really need to drop the game's price in order to get more players. Or invest in advertisement... or something...

    The game feels so inactive with 800 players online.

    Dropping the price = F2P. It is allready at ~5$ at every steam sale
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  • CCTEECCTEE Members, Reinforced - Shadow Join Date: 2013-06-20 Member: 185634Posts: 772 Advanced user
    CCTEE wrote: »
    PPL who play F2P games have total different mentality than ppl who bought a game.

    Wasnt NS1 F2P? I never paid a cent for it, anyway.
    Lol

    NS1 was a mod, that is a different thing than a f2p titel. And pls don't quote me out of context.

    I dont see the difference from a player perspective AT ALL.
    NS1 didnt have a learning curve? Required teamplay?

    I also dont see how i quoted you out of context.
    grrrr im beast
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