<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Using Insight for the first time now that it's in NS2. Wow, it's killer! <a href="http://yfrog.com/nyj8hoxj" target="_blank">http://yfrog.com/nyj8hoxj</a> (you'll have it in game today!)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yesssss! Awesome, can't wait.
<a href="http://yfrog.com/z/nyj8hoxj" target="_blank">SabaHell is a Gorge?</a> Insight mod must clearly have a bug there, everyone knows SabaHell is the Lerk Queen. :P
<!--quoteo(post=1959916:date=Aug 9 2012, 06:13 PM:name=NolSinkler)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NolSinkler @ Aug 9 2012, 06:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959916"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What do they mean, one of the most stubborn builds?? Hmmm...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> They mean it isnt cooperation I think
<!--quoteo(post=1959916:date=Aug 9 2012, 11:13 PM:name=NolSinkler)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NolSinkler @ Aug 9 2012, 11:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1959916"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What do they mean, one of the most stubborn builds?? Hmmm...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Almost 1,000 games into NS2 Build 216 and the balance is the BEST YET. Marine/Alien wins are 49.6%/50.4%. YES.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1960709:date=Aug 10 2012, 09:30 PM:name={GGs} Chicken)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ({GGs} Chicken @ Aug 10 2012, 09:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960709"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=NS2 Twitter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NS2 Twitter)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Almost 1,000 games into NS2 Build 216 and the balance is the BEST YET. Marine/Alien wins are 49.6%/50.4%. YES.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thought this was a joke for a second <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I had to check and see if it really said that, I found it that hard to believe. Honestly though, who tweeted that? I thought the developers knew better than to quote those rather hollow win-percentages, they represent very little information with regards to actual balance, yet the devs keep placing those percentages and "balance" in the same sentence for the umpteen time now. Please, just stop doing that. Did some troll get a hold of your twitter-account, that occasionally trolls us with these percentages?
IeptBarakatThe most difficult name to speak ingame.Join Date: 2009-07-10Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
Are the physics improvements with the grenade launcher? Shooting 2 grenades down a hallway and a third grenade to fly off in a random direction and bounce into my face isn't great for marine morale.
<!--quoteo(post=1960777:date=Aug 10 2012, 07:05 PM:name=player)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (player @ Aug 10 2012, 07:05 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960777"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thought this was a joke for a second
I had to check and see if it really said that, I found it that hard to believe. Honestly though, who tweeted that? I thought the developers knew better than to quote those rather hollow win-percentages, they represent very little information with regards to actual balance, yet the devs keep placing those percentages and "balance" in the same sentence for the umpteen time now. Please, just stop doing that. Did some troll get a hold of your twitter-account, that occasionally trolls us with these percentages?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
charlie had a post here regarding the 'favorable' win/loss rate already, but it had plenty of caveats (ack'ing parts of the game arent right yet). of course the goal is all parts of the game are fun & fair - Plus the win rate is even. so might have come from him (idk).
<!--quoteo(post=1960800:date=Aug 10 2012, 11:37 PM:name=jbaker8935)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jbaker8935 @ Aug 10 2012, 11:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960800"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->but i agree, it smacks of mission accomplished.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1960560:date=Aug 10 2012, 04:53 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Flayra @ Aug 10 2012, 04:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960560"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Balance has made a massive swing for the better. Some alien players will complain - all will need to adapt. It is now almost exactly 50/50, which is a HUGE improvement. We are not even close to done with balance though - there will continue to be lots of smaller changes to make sure all the tech in the game is useful and we're seeing massive diversity in play.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> As you can see from the above quote of Flayra's from another post, no one is saying the game is done yet with those tweets regarding balance. But, when we get the win / loss ratio much more in line like it is now, it is a big step forward, and really helps us identify the elements which have a large impact on balance (you'd be surprised at how many things can be changed and tweaked without seeing a change in the win/loss stats).
<!--quoteo(post=1960845:date=Aug 10 2012, 08:43 PM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Aug 10 2012, 08:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960845"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As you can see from the above quote of Flayra's from another post, no one is saying the game is done yet with those tweets regarding balance. But, when we get the win / loss ratio much more in line like it is now, it is a big step forward, and really helps us identify the elements which have a large impact on balance (you'd be surprised at how many things can be changed and tweaked without seeing a change in the win/loss stats).
btw i understood the point of the tweet & congrats on making progress on that front. it just gets people's dander up in isolation. kind of a hot button like the thing i referenced.
Looks like Hugh is also preparing some occult ritual in the office (note the whiteboard). ;)
<!--quoteo(post=1961054:date=Aug 11 2012, 01:47 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Aug 11 2012, 01:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961054"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The thing that makes Flayra's balance posts feel so wonky is how he seems to talk about balance and winrates as if they were synonyms.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, at least that's how it comes across.
For the love of god, this physics thing is killing me. UWE: We are starving here. Do you even realize how hungry you get when you are starving? Now <i>please</i> say something about these physics things. This is like the most intriguing tweet you ever made. You cant do this to us man. Cory. Charlie. Dushan. GIVE US SOMETHING MOAR.
AngeluszHarmonic entropistJoin Date: 2003-07-10Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
One thing I can say for sure right now, is that the new Physics system increases performance a lot. Naturally, this opens a lot of doors, but I can't say what else UWE will present on short term.
<!--quoteo(post=1961628:date=Aug 12 2012, 08:15 AM:name=Angelusz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Angelusz @ Aug 12 2012, 08:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961628"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One thing I can say for sure right now, is that the new Physics system increases performance a lot. Naturally, this opens a lot of doors, but I can't say what else UWE will present on short term.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That is great news!
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They mean it isnt cooperation I think
Incoming torrent of bugs. To the tracker!
Thought this was a joke for a second
Thought this was a joke for a second
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I had to check and see if it really said that, I found it that hard to believe. Honestly though, who tweeted that? I thought the developers knew better than to quote those rather hollow win-percentages, they represent very little information with regards to actual balance, yet the devs keep placing those percentages and "balance" in the same sentence for the umpteen time now. Please, just stop doing that. Did some troll get a hold of your twitter-account, that occasionally trolls us with these percentages?
seriously, so starved for info with the progress tracker being down.....
I had to check and see if it really said that, I found it that hard to believe. Honestly though, who tweeted that? I thought the developers knew better than to quote those rather hollow win-percentages, they represent very little information with regards to actual balance, yet the devs keep placing those percentages and "balance" in the same sentence for the umpteen time now. Please, just stop doing that. Did some troll get a hold of your twitter-account, that occasionally trolls us with these percentages?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
charlie had a post here regarding the 'favorable' win/loss rate already, but it had plenty of caveats (ack'ing parts of the game arent right yet). of course the goal is all parts of the game are fun & fair - Plus the win rate is even. so might have come from him (idk).
but i agree, it smacks of mission accomplished.
<!--quoteo(post=1960560:date=Aug 10 2012, 04:53 PM:name=Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Flayra @ Aug 10 2012, 04:53 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1960560"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Balance has made a massive swing for the better. Some alien players will complain - all will need to adapt. It is now almost exactly 50/50, which is a HUGE improvement. We are not even close to done with balance though - there will continue to be lots of smaller changes to make sure all the tech in the game is useful and we're seeing massive diversity in play.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As you can see from the above quote of Flayra's from another post, no one is saying the game is done yet with those tweets regarding balance. But, when we get the win / loss ratio much more in line like it is now, it is a big step forward, and really helps us identify the elements which have a large impact on balance (you'd be surprised at how many things can be changed and tweaked without seeing a change in the win/loss stats).
--Cory
--Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this is balance without the exo, though.
i was actually trying to be supportive there :)
First tweet in 3months to peek my interest.
Should they change the balance now to fit the exo without having it implemented?
..or is the bio map coming?:o
<!--quoteo(post=1961054:date=Aug 11 2012, 01:47 PM:name=Bacillus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bacillus @ Aug 11 2012, 01:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1961054"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The thing that makes Flayra's balance posts feel so wonky is how he seems to talk about balance and winrates as if they were synonyms.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, at least that's how it comes across.
"physics objects inheret the velocity, and direction of the players" -> gravitational forces are probably also correctly implemented now??
this would make for believable raggdolls, instead of random ragdolls. (Onos bouncing around anyone?)
(just assumptions, but what else could you be excited about really?)
That is great news!