Natural Selection 2 News Update - Rifle Rework

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  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1875954:date=Sep 20 2011, 06:39 PM:name=zeep)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zeep @ Sep 20 2011, 06:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875954"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->(Speaking about realism) Why doesn't the rifle have a weapon sight?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    because the game doesn't use ADS. NS1's rifle looked stupid with the scope.
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Looks great Cory! - I have a sneaking suspicion that the longer, sleeker barrel will make people more accurate (Or at least feel more accurate) with the rifle. It helps you align the crosshair with the target by giving your eye a point of reference in the frame.
  • SilverwingSilverwing bulletsponge Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23395Members, Constellation
    Very nice! Can't wait to try it.
  • RhodriRhodri Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17575Members
    I love it, great job on the re-work.
  • Heroman117Heroman117 Join Date: 2010-07-28 Member: 73268Members
    Its always great to see you guys polishing up game assets, but personally, i always felt the shotgun needed a face-lift more than the rifle did, the shotgun looks beefy, a little too much, to the point that is looks fat. Now that the rifle has been made sleeker, new players will see this even more in the shotgun.

    While i'm sure revising the rifle may have taken enough time that revising the shotgun wouldn't be justified, you guys should look into the shotgun's appearance in the first person view, maybe its just the origins, but something doesn't feel right about it.
  • thaldarin2thaldarin2 Join Date: 2011-09-20 Member: 122271Members
    This is the sort of over-excited non-update post I expect to see from a mod team with nothing to show.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is the sort of over-excited non-update post I expect to see from a mod team with nothing to show.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Funny, this is the sort of negative non-constructive post I expect to see from an outcast troll with nothing to say.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    edited September 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1875967:date=Sep 20 2011, 11:17 PM:name=thaldarin2)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thaldarin2 @ Sep 20 2011, 11:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875967"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is the sort of over-excited non-update post I expect to see from a mod team with nothing to show.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's the sort of overly-belligerent un-inspired post I expect to see from someone with nothing positive to contribute. Welcome back Thaldarin, you've been missed.

    --Cory

    [Edit - Darn, Supernorn beat me to it]
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    What's with the clone, did you get your account banned thaldy? Or is it just meb or cake hiding under there...
  • SiniStarRSiniStarR Join Date: 2010-04-13 Member: 71380Members
    Looks nice. Old rifle will be missed though. I guess this is just another thing to let us say to the noobs. "Back in beta days the rifle never looked like the way it does today!" (old man voice)
  • lunsluns Join Date: 2010-12-05 Member: 75502Members
    doesn't look as bulky as it did did before that's actually good change. I also think the pistol and shotgun needs to be reworked. Pistol feels too bulky to me, and shotgun doesn't look right to me, can't put my finger on it - something is missing i think.

    I'm hoping to see more progress on technical tasks to be honest. the progress page no longer updates what's Max working on, and what has been done. So while these changes indeed are great engine progress is something what everyone really wants to hear about.
  • KalabalanaKalabalana Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22859Members
    I think this is a great update from the old model, very nice work.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1875964:date=Sep 20 2011, 11:04 PM:name=Heroman117)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heroman117 @ Sep 20 2011, 11:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875964"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Its always great to see you guys polishing up game assets, but personally, i always felt the shotgun needed a face-lift more than the rifle did, the shotgun looks beefy, a little too much, to the point that is looks fat. Now that the rifle has been made sleeker, new players will see this even more in the shotgun.

    While i'm sure revising the rifle may have taken enough time that revising the shotgun wouldn't be justified, you guys should look into the shotgun's appearance in the first person view, maybe its just the origins, but something doesn't feel right about it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have plans to rework the shotgun, as well. It won't be right away, but it will be before v1.0

    --Cory
  • RebellionEliteRebellionElite Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112530Members
    I will say bravo, new assault rifle looks pretty good, maybe a tad awkward in the first person shot, the old just seemed more hefty and I kind of liked that. But I will reserve judgement till I see in game myself.

    I will say Cory, one thing that may never happen, but I really hope does is a model of the pistol similar to that of NS1 in a sense of a slimmer or refined and less fat gun. I loved the NS1 pistol, one of my all time favorite weapons of any game. But what really sold it to me was the really distinct higher pitched sound that it made when you rapid fired away at a couple remaining skulks. BRING BACK THAT SOUND! BEST SOUND EVA!
  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    The model looks great, but when I load up ns1 and run around I freaking fall in love with the rifle shooting sound. If you could bring that level of intensity back, you'd have the look and the feel down pat
  • RebellionEliteRebellionElite Join Date: 2011-07-27 Member: 112530Members
    OOOOO!

    What FMpone said, Rifle sound was baller too!
  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1875954:date=Sep 20 2011, 05:39 PM:name=zeep)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zeep @ Sep 20 2011, 05:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1875954"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->(Speaking about realism) Why doesn't the rifle have a weapon sight?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Uhm because the marines where those special helmets with the HUD on it and thats the crosshair. Thats why there is floaty blue light in there face all the time. lol
  • tyrael64tyrael64 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70551Members
    I did not expect this, is very nice!

    skulks now not going to be able to hide behind the gun xD
  • FocusedWolfFocusedWolf Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34258Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1876007:date=Sep 20 2011, 09:52 PM:name=PersianImm0rtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PersianImm0rtal @ Sep 20 2011, 09:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876007"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Uhm because the marines where those special helmets with the HUD on it and thats the crosshair. Thats why there is floaty blue light in there face all the time. lol<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Such a weapon would be useless without a helmet. If the helmet got damaged or your batteries died... A real weapon would have backup sights.
  • yodayoda Join Date: 2003-11-27 Member: 23619Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Looks great, very steampunk-ish I think.
  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1876010:date=Sep 21 2011, 12:01 PM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Sep 21 2011, 12:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876010"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Such a weapon would be useless without a helmet. If the helmet got damaged or your batteries died... A real weapon would have backup sights.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Dude. Dude! Nanites. You can't disable nanites!

    But whatever you do, don't try to repair your team-mate's helmet during a training exercise. S*** always ends bad man. Messy bad.
  • SkymanderXSkymanderX Green Marine - The Few, The Proud, The Green. Join Date: 2011-07-29 Member: 113006Members
  • LuaPineappleLuaPineapple Join Date: 2008-10-25 Member: 65296Members, Reinforced - Silver
    I am unsure. The new one looks 'lighter' than the old model; I think it has to do with the front muzzle. On the old model it was 'heavier', as if it were closer to a shotgun than a rifle. I'm struggling to pin point exactly what it is, but the precise words escape me right now...

    The rest of the new model looks better than the old one. Just the muzzle, something about it...
  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1876016:date=Sep 20 2011, 09:46 PM:name=NS2HD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NS2HD @ Sep 20 2011, 09:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876016"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Dude. Dude! Nanites. You can't disable nanites!

    But whatever you do, don't try to repair your team-mate's helmet during a training exercise. S*** always ends bad man. Messy bad.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That, and you can leave the Aimpoint sight that the US Army uses on for like 7 years before its AAA battery dies... I'm pretty sure the average lifespan of a TSA Marine is much shorter
  • LithenLithen Join Date: 2011-09-17 Member: 121755Members
    i like it, but it looks more like an in-game upgrade in my opinion :p

    I would also like to see the "holes" near the end of the "bullet exhaust" from the old rifle make it's way into the new one.
    (I'm terrible with weapons terms in english :p)

    Cheers
  • StexeStexe Join Date: 2006-12-25 Member: 59227Members, Constellation
    As long as it doesn't fire the ammo shells back INTO the user like it did before, I'd be happy with it.

    Really hope you changed the ammo being ejected from the left side to the right... it might look better shooting out on the left, but it makes no logical sense at all.
  • SpaZSpaZ Join Date: 2003-06-11 Member: 17256Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1876016:date=Sep 20 2011, 10:46 PM:name=NS2HD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NS2HD @ Sep 20 2011, 10:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876016"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But whatever you do, don't try to repair your team-mate's helmet during a training exercise. S*** always ends bad man. Messy bad.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    MEDIIIIC!!! I take your comment was partly Starship Troopers reference :D
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited September 2011
    I like it, the old one is way to fat.

    <!--quoteo(post=1876008:date=Sep 21 2011, 04:00 AM:name=tyrael64)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tyrael64 @ Sep 21 2011, 04:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1876008"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I did not expect this, is very nice!

    skulks now not going to be able to hide behind the gun xD<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Haha true XD

    This news is a surprise for me, i never imagined you change that.
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    I still reckon SMG makes more sense for indoor combat - and smg's just feel more fun to use.



    Redo this with the new barrel etc it would look epic.

    <!--quoteo(post=1822584:date=Jan 8 2011, 02:39 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Jan 8 2011, 02:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1822584"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what about something like this? :)

    <img src="http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1818/ns2smg.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    also the way the rifle is being held in first person view looks a bit strange (old and new rifle) not sure what it is, but its looks skewed or something
  • XeZoXeZo Join Date: 2006-11-14 Member: 58597Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Looks sick! :)

    Good job! :D


    Now you're doing cosmetic surgery, don't think you think the gorge could use a big white smile? ;D
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