Natural Selection 2 News Update - NS2 Build 174 Released

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  • BitPonBitPon Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75104Members
    Thanks Matso! Thanks Enceladus!
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  • linfosomalinfosoma Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67523Members
    Damn, lot's of community support! Thanks guys!
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  • SoulzzSoulzz Join Date: 2010-05-02 Member: 71597Members
    Good stuff! Can't wait to test it out :).
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  • kababkabab Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24384Members, Constellation
    You guys might as well hire Matso :D

    Good job can't wait to try it!
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Members
    Nice, I really like the new Drifter and MAC decelleration :)

    Skulk feels a bit too sticky for me, but nothing I can't adapt to.
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  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    I jumped on as soon as it downloaded, but EVERYONE on the freaking server was complaining about how the game is unplayable and they want their money back, so I decided I'd try again when there were less crybabies on.
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  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    The server I was in is normally one of the best servers to play on (luximonster) But the server tick rate was at 1.2!!! LOLZ

    Nice testers..
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  • radforChristradforChrist USA Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6871Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    Yeah, seemed to be the same too.

    However, ever server slows to an unplayable crawl within minutes...

    It's happened on servers that previously showed no signs of lag.

    I just had to quit as it's too choppy to even try. Anyone else?
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  • SteinhauerSteinhauer Join Date: 2010-07-17 Member: 72493Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1842615:date=Apr 26 2011, 10:25 PM:name=radforChrist)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (radforChrist @ Apr 26 2011, 10:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842615"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah, seemed to be the same too.

    However, ever server slows to an unplayable crawl within minutes...

    It's happened on servers that previously showed no signs of lag.

    I just had to quit as it's too choppy to even try. Anyone else?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I thought I noticed the same when in the game with you, but I wasn't sure if it were the server itself because I didn't remember which server it was.

    So yeah new lag. Maybe the future additions being worked on have more optimization issues. <b>You guys have some serious balls for being an indie developer creating their own engine...</b>

    But hopefully it will pay off big time!
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  • tyrael64tyrael64 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70551Members
    edited April 2011
    I think the conclusion is thank you Matso!


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    Server rate dies too quick :S
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I'm still getting some weird texture problems that started in 173. Every game it seems like one structure has problems with polygons coming off of it in all directions. So far I've had games with the crag, the harvester, and the sentry gun having this problem. Sucks the most with the sentry gun as I can't tell which way it's pointing.
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  • lunsluns Join Date: 2010-12-05 Member: 75502Members
    extremely unplayable. I don't know if the memory leak problem is back but the lag is just insane.
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  • LazerLazer Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    edited April 2011
    I was on a couple known good servers and it felt like there is a memory leak. At first I thought it was occlusion issues but it eventually just affected everything. :(

    EDIT: Seems tickrate has gone back up on some server now but not quite sure. Feels like a good patch though.
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  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    still can't spawn from custom maps. lua errors spammed like crazy about not recognizing the team and the team variable being a nil value.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    I see light balls around the map in rockdown and setviewanimation is getting spammed in my console.
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  • wakeboarderwakeboarder Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31388Members, NS2 Playtester
    174 out woohooo joined our server and what a ghost was the only one on and there were only 4 servers up not a good sign. Then game started all seemed well untill 4 min in with 4 players tic rate fell to 1.2 unplayable. Restarted sever rejoined crashed! rejoinded got game going tick rate dropped mac stuck behind power node in ele then 1.2 againg and crashed all in 35 min of play. Good news doors work macs can go out doors 1 step forward 2 back sorry. must be them mem leak again I am wondering how this got by testers AGAIN? Heads up guys I still love you, keep plugging away.
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    We also had an instance where EVERYBODY fell through the map at the same time (all 10 of us on both teams). Weird. Then the server got the memory leak and tickrate went to 3.
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  • devicenulldevicenull Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15967Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1842613:date=Apr 26 2011, 10:24 PM:name=PersianImm0rtal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PersianImm0rtal @ Apr 26 2011, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842613"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The server I was in is normally one of the best servers to play on (luximonster) But the server tick rate was at 1.2!!! LOLZ

    Nice testers..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yea I'm not quite sure what happened there. It went right back up to 30 tick after I restarted it, but it didn't seem to be consuming excessive memory or CPU (well, with NS2 it's hard to say what's excessive CPU).

    This 80% idle cpu usage makes it hard to tell if there's legitimate CPU issues since I have no baseline to go by.
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  • shivshiv Join Date: 2010-04-11 Member: 71341Members, Constellation
    yup, same here. less than 10min after game started server rate dropped down to 1-2ticks/sec. No hydras or turrets on the map and only a handful of structures.
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  • HughHugh Cameraman San Francisco, CA Join Date: 2010-04-18 Member: 71444NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    Looking forward to taking it for a spin. Go Matso you beast!
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  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fixed bug where the rifle looping sound<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> still appearing? seems to me the engine is making fun of you. running gag / bug
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I'm guessing door bug was fixed as well?
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  • MkilbrideMkilbride Join Date: 2010-01-07 Member: 69952Members
    Door is fixed, right?

    And oh, Thanks Matsou for doing their job. :P
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  • brechtosbrechtos Belgium Join Date: 2008-04-18 Member: 64100Members, Reinforced - Gold
    <!--quoteo(post=1842633:date=Apr 27 2011, 06:35 AM:name=Tig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tig @ Apr 27 2011, 06:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842633"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->still can't spawn from custom maps. lua errors spammed like crazy about not recognizing the team and the team variable being a nil value.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you sure that you have all the needed gameplay entities set up with the correct parameters (specificly the team_location entities)

    Go Matso Go Matso :)
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  • AdamaAdama Join Date: 2010-12-21 Member: 75826Members
    Still an issue with hosting multiple HLDS on 1 server - players cannot connect to the HLDS that are not using port 27015.

    Can this please be addressed as it's rather pointless having a large box that can host multiple HLDS and players being unable to connect.
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  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1842668:date=Apr 27 2011, 05:04 AM:name=brechtos)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (brechtos @ Apr 27 2011, 05:04 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842668"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Are you sure that you have all the needed gameplay entities set up with the correct parameters (specificly the team_location entities)

    Go Matso Go Matso :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yeah bro, check out my thread in the mapping forum about this bug. check out my screenshots from alpha until beta 171. check out the getsatisfaction bug report. download my sample map and try it yourself :(
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  • TigTig Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71674Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver
    edited April 2011
    deleted.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Any chance of a quick look at the editor? It's had a black background for almost 6 months now.
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  • SewlekSewlek The programmer previously known as Schimmel Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16247Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1842703:date=Apr 27 2011, 10:15 AM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thaldarin @ Apr 27 2011, 10:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842703"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Any chance of a quick look at the editor? It's had a black background for almost 6 months now.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    you want another color? :)
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  • LazerLazer Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1842707:date=Apr 27 2011, 08:46 AM:name=Schimmel)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Schimmel @ Apr 27 2011, 08:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1842707"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->you want another color? :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes gray so you can actually see the black lines.
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